War supporters lose their imagination

I can appreciate the fact that Sen. George Allen (R-Va.) is an enthusiastic supporter of the war in Iraq. I can also understand that Allen is going to run for president in 2008 and doesn’t want to say anything now that his rivals might use against him.

But if he’s going to praise a debacle, the least he could do is put some thought into it.

Allen was on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos yesterday, and was asked to comment on a Washington Post article detailing massive, systemic flaws in the training of Iraqi security forces. (C&L, of course, has the video.)

Stephanopoulos: We read on the front page of the Washington Post this morning that these elements of the Iraqi military, the army and security forces we’re training up, are actually, many of them, still loyal to their parties, still loyal to their militias and it’s not a national army.

Allen: Well, that’s true. And you have that even in our United States. We have local police; we have state police, and you have the FBI…

Consider the susbtance behind these remarks. It’s possible Allen hadn’t seen the WaPo article Stephanopoulos referenced, but it described militias, often operating as part of Iraqi government security forces, carrying out abductions, assassinations, and other acts of intimidation, while creating their own institutions of authority, unaccountable to elected governments.

To hear George Allen — a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — tell it, the various state and federal agencies in American law enforcement offer an analogous picture. As Michael Crowley explained, Allen essentially argued, “Bloodthirsty Shiite militiamen really aren’t so different from, say, Virginia state troopers.”

Presidential material? Well, by current standards, maybe.

Allen is about the dopiest-dope to come around since, well…

  • The right just won’t care. If given a choice between an idiot who doesn’t understand the difference between a militia and the FBI or a decorated veteran (Hagel) who’s telling it like it is, there’s no contest.

  • Yeah, but can Allen get the coveted Jesus endorsement?

    There’s little to distinguish between the way the GOP chooses candidates and the college of Cardinals chooses the pope, save the chimney-and-white-smoke rigamarole.

  • …save the chimney-and-white-smoke rigamarole.

    Give them time, Davis. Give them time.

  • George Allen is milquetoast. It doesn’t surprise me he gives this kind of answer – totally in character. Now if he came out with an impasioned answer that would surprise me.

  • I agree with ET that Allen is milquetoast. But he’s got that good ‘ole country boy image down pat. And I do think he can get the “Jesus endorsement.”

  • Allen is good looking, genial, and an empty vessel into which the GOP kingmakers can pour all sorts of nonsense. It’s worked the last 5 years for them, no reason to stop now. Let’s see how fast he attached himself to this Fair Tax crap. That will be a harbinger.

  • The inside scoop has George Allen as the man to beat in the GOP. Watch for more looney Religious Right-inspired talking points coming from him and his staffers.

    We can beat this guy. But only if we can overcome the fear that the GOP has instilled in the independents. Personally, I think Wes is going to be our best chance for that. Will they attempt to slime him? Of course, but they will attempt to slime whomever the Dem’s put forward.

  • Allen must be coming forward because their last looks-good-to-moderates-but-isn’t-moderate candidate Frist, is falling apart along with his presidential chances.

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