Pentagon spying gets quick reaction

Less than 24 hours after NBC News reported that the Pentagon has been spying on law-abiding, anti-war protestors, the Defense Department announced an internal review of their policies.

Pentagon officials said yesterday they had ordered a review of a program aimed at countering terrorist attacks that had compiled information about U.S. citizens, after reports that the database included information on peace protesters and others whose activities posed no threat and should not have been kept on file.

The move followed an NBC News report Tuesday disclosing that a sample of about 1,500 “suspicious incidents” listed in the database included four dozen anti-war meetings or protests, some aimed at military recruiting.

Although officials defended the Pentagon’s interest in gathering information about possible threats to military bases and troops, one senior official acknowledged that a preliminary review of the database indicated that it had not been correctly maintained.

“On the surface, it looks like things in the database that were determined not to be viable threats were never deleted but should have been,” the official said. “You can also make the argument that these things should never have been put in the database in the first place until they were confirmed as threats.”

To their credit, Pentagon officials didn’t bother trying to defend the inclusion of nearly four dozen anti-war meetings or protests in their “Talon” database. In fact, in a statement, the Defense Department said, “The Department of Defense . . . views with the greatest concern any potential violation of the strict DoD policy governing authorized counter-intelligence efforts,” which seemed to suggest an acknowledgement that a violation had occurred.

The review of the program, the WaPo said, will focus on whether officials broke the rules that strictly limit domestic military spying on American protestors.

Just as an aside, I wanted to add that I was a little surprised this didn’t get bigger play in the media. The WaPo put it on its front page, but the NYT ran wire copy, and the LAT ran an op-ed on the subject without an accompanying news item. USAT and the WSJ, at least online, seem to have ignored it altogether.

Where’s the outrage?

Agreed..where’s the outrage. Ladies and gentlemen, news just broke that out government has descended into using Soviet-Cold War-KGB tactics on information gathering about its own citizens whom they consider to have strayed from the narrowly defined governmentally sanctioned way of thinking – and nobody cares.
Again, the CB delivers Earth shattering news…and my co-workers will think I made this up if I tell them.

  • Taken on its own, domestic spying is, of course, very bad. But it’s completely consistent with all the other stuff—the torture, the habeas corpus issues, the aggressive war based on lies—that America has already shown it’s willing to tolerate. The frog is well nigh to boiled, folks.

  • I agree Lucy. We are through the looking glass. Normally we would be alarmed by the hooka smoking catapillar and the playing cards who seem to be in charge but we have accepted the fact that the rules here are different. I blame the rabbit with the “Bush”y tail!

  • You ask where is the outrage.
    I ask where are the Democrats.
    Let’s face it, the media is not going to do our jobs for us.
    They reported it as a fact.
    That’s the end of their responsibility.
    It’s our responsibility and specifically our Democratic leadership’s responsibility to make it an issue.

    Where is the outrage indeed?
    Harry?
    Nancy?
    Hillary?
    Joe?
    Carl?
    ….

  • Well, the guy in charge of the investigation did meet with Jane Harman and Pete Hoekstra yesterday.

    And did anyone else notice this program is called “Talon”? Sounds familiar …

  • “The review of the program, the WaPo said, will focus on whether officials broke the rules that strictly limit domestic military spying on American protestors.”

    And the worst of it is, that the Pentagon will investigate the rule infractions and the lawyers will say, “Technically, no rules were broken” because of some strained interpretation of the policy.

  • Indeed. Where is the outrage? The question,
    hopefully, historians will be asking over and
    over again about this administration. Why
    didn’t anyone care what they did? Why did
    they allow it to happen?

    If we’re lucky. We may be stuck with
    right wing rule for a long, long time.
    Remember, underneath it all, it’s really
    corporate rule. The fundies and bigots
    and rednecks are only the unwitting
    pawns. And to make it all the more
    insidious, corporate America is not itself
    pernicious, not evil, but simply self
    serving.

    Social Darwinism coupled with
    unrestrained corporate rule produces
    what? That’s what’s happening.

    Sorry for the sermon. I see more good
    news for Bush this morning. Makes me
    very cranky and cynical.

  • I notice that there’s no pledge to actually do anything, just that they’ll “look into it”. Wow. Yay, us. 🙁

  • Don’t celebrate just yet.

    The NSA has been spying on communications originating in the US with out warrants based on an executive order signed by Bush. This according to a lengthy article in tomorrow’s NYTimes. Here is the lede:

    Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials.

    Guess who is at the center this.

    After the special program started, Congressional leaders from both political parties were brought to Vice President Dick Cheney’s office in the White House. The leaders, who included the chairmen and ranking members of the Senate and House intelligence committees, learned of the N.S.A. operation from Mr. Cheney, Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden of the Air Force, who was then the agency’s director and is now a full general and the principal deputy director of national intelligence, and George J. Tenet, then the director of the C.I.A., officials said.

    Also John Yoo of torture memo fame had a hand in this.

    Eternal vigilance is all that stands between us and a fascist state.

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