The T-shirt scourge on America

Think whatever you want about Cindy Sheehan; there isn’t much of a defense for this.

Peace activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Tuesday in the House gallery after refusing to cover up a T-shirt bearing an anti-war slogan before President Bush’s State of the Union address.

“She was asked to cover it up. She did not,” said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, U.S. Capitol Police spokeswoman, adding that Sheehan was arrested for unlawful conduct, a misdemeanor.

The charge carries a maximum penalty of one year in jail, Schneider said.

Sheehan was an invited guest of Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) last night and was not disrupting the address when she was taken away by police. There were rumors on the networks that Sheehan held up an anti-war banner, but she did not. She sat in her seat, wearing a T-shirt that read, “2,245 Dead — How Many More?”

This, apparently, is now a crime. Again, this isn’t about Sheehan, so much as it’s about why the Capitol Police believe a law-abiding citizen can be taken into custody based on the non-obscene political message on a shirt.

Indeed, it’s worth noting that when it comes to Bush’s “bubble,” T-shirts have become quite a public menace.

* In August 2004, John Prather, a mild-mannered math professor at Ohio University, was removed by security from a presidential event on public property because he wore a shirt that promoted John Kerry.

* On July 4, 2004, Nicole and Jeff Rank were arrested at a Bush event in West Virginia for wearing T-shirts that criticized the president. (About the same time the Ranks were being taken away in handcuffs, Bush was reminding the audience, “On this 4th of July, we confirm our love of freedom, the freedom for people to speak their minds.” Gotta love irony.)

* In August 2004, campaign workers removed a family from a presidential event in Michigan because one woman, a 50-year-old chemist, carried in a rolled-up T-shirt emblazoned with a pro-choice slogan. She later said, “I just wanted to see my president,” and brought the extra shirt in case she got cold.

* In July 2004, Jayson Nelson, a county supervisor in Appleton, Wis., was thrown out of a presidential event because of a pro-Kerry T-shirt. An event staffer saw the shirt, snatched the VIP ticket, and called for police. “Look at his shirt! Look at his shirt!” Nelson recalled the woman telling the Ashwaubenon Public Safety officer who answered the call. Nelson said the officer told him, “You gotta go,” and sternly directed him to a Secret Service contingent that spent seven or eight minutes checking him over before ejecting him from the property.

* In October 2004, three Oregon schoolteachers were removed from a Bush event and threatened with arrest for wearing t-shirts that said “Protect Our Civil Liberties.”

In each instance, the “accused” had tickets to see the president. Moreover, none were disturbing the peace, disrupting the event, or causing a ruckus. Their crime was their shirt.

In this sense, Sheehan’s arrest was predictable. Sad, but inevitable.

This should be a much bigger deal. I hope she is tried so the forces of free speech (which should include pretty much everyone) can have a showdown with the forces of … whatever the GOP can come up with to defend this kind of thing. I hope Rep. Woolsey speaks about this everyday on the House Floor, to the press, to anyone who will listen.

The other thing is, and this is potentially much more frightening, that Arlen Specter seems to be interested in curbing free speech in the form of the right to protest (assemble) at certain national events. If we let this type of thing become the law of the land, we are all doomed. It won’t be long before we’re all in matching jumpsuits lining up for “re-education”.

Seriously people.

  • I wonder if somebody with an “INVADE IRAN”, or “McCain 08” t-shirt would be kicked out too?

  • Oh the silly bitch was just looking for another photo op (as usual!) She probably would have started screaming in the awful shrill voice of hers right in the middle of Bush’s speech too. Of course all the network cameras would keep coming back to sweet Cindy and her goofy T shirt. It’s more likely Cindy was lying…she certainly has done it enough in the past. I am no fan of Bush or that fucking war but Cindy Sheehan is the worst thing that happened to the legitimate peace movement since Jane Fonda. I have the feeling if her dead son could speak from the grave he would shout “HEY MOM! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CRAZY BITCH!!!” Peace brother (and sister)!

  • Speech law applicable to Congress is a bit different. I don’t think this falls into the same category as the other items listed, which all involve public events.

  • When did dress code infractions become criminal acts? If they has asked her to leave, or escorted her from the building, I wouldn’t have agreed, but could understand. But criminal charges???

    Saddly, the troops in Iraq aren’t protecting our freedoms – they’re protecting the Bush regime’s quest to eliminate them.

  • I have to agree with Bubba. Regardless of what it said a t-shirt is not appropriate attire for the SOTU in the chambers of the Congress. Cindy Sheehan is not really a stable person on this issue and actually it probaly would have been worswe for the anti-war crowd if she were allowed in.

    That said, There should be a huge deal made out of the clamping down on freedom of speach. It is so obviously un-American that I am amazed that everyone isn’t screaming about these things. As usual is it a double standard. Pat Robertson can call for political assassination and O’Reilly can tell the evil doers to nuke SF but people who might embarass the CIC at an event should be cuffed and stuffed.

    It is very sad.

  • The only way this ever will get the attention it merits is if Democrats–hell, anyone who cares about free speech–show up in significant numbers so attired every time Bush speaks.

    I’m not generally big on “hearken back to the ’60s” talk, but damn, people–this is Tactics 101. What’s so hard to grasp about this?

  • We want FREEDOM for everywhere except the US. In the US the GOP wants foot soldiers to follow the leaders orders or go to jail! NO disagreeing with the leaders! It seems we are headed for the life described in the book about Handmaidens ( it was called Tales of a Handmaiden or something like that )

  • The t-shirt was against house rules. Period.

    Except as provided in section 5106 of this title, a person may not –
    (1) parade, stand, or move in processions or assemblages in the Grounds; or
    (2) display in the Grounds a flag, banner, or device designed or adapted to bring into public notice a party, organization, or movement.

    The law was also equally applied as Sheehan wasn’t the only person asked to leave.

  • The current AP story up on Yahoo about this says that, in addition to Sheehan, Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C. W. Bill Young of Florida (chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee), was also removed — for having a T-shirt that read “Support the Troops — Defending Our Freedom.”

    “‘They said I was protesting,’ she told the St. Petersburg Times. I said, ‘Read my shirt, it is not a protest.’ They said, ‘We consider that a protest.’ I said, ‘Then you are an idiot.'”

  • Wow. What’s with all of the hateful criticism being launched at Ms. Sheehan? Whether you agree with her or not, she was treated unfairly at this event at best, and denied her rights at worst. For those who haven’t already professed her to be an unstable liar, she has posted a diary on DailyKos explaining her side of the story. As for her attire, she was attending a rally when she was invited to attend the SOTU. Was she expected to have suit on-hand to slip into? And Bubba, thanks for sharing your insight into Cindy’s son. I’m sure you knew him well enough in life to be an authority on what he might be thinking beyond the grave.

  • If pronouncing support for the military at a SOTU address is a protest and a crime, how many times has the President commited that crime?

  • Personally, I do not think that the t-shirt is acceptable behaviour at the SOTU speech. Regardless of one’s right to protest, which I support completely, not every forum should be open to such things. Yes, If I had my way they would be able to protest right outside the Capitol building in full view and earshot of those coming to attend. But inside the Capitol really is not appropriate at this speech. I feel bad and sympathetic for Cindy Sheehan and cannot even try to understand the pain she must feel. But if she has family that cares about her they really need to speak to her to explain to her that she should keep up her protests, but she should do them in a manner that actually will help her cause and draw people to her cause. She can be a very powerful figure but some of the events she has planned or staged appear to be the result of just bad judgment.

    (PS “Bubba” is a different “bubba.”)

  • The administration not only promotes fear in the general populace, they are very frightened people themselves. They do not believe strongly enough in the validity of their positions to open them up for discussion. If this is how they treat disagreement in the U.S. where we assume they must at leat give lip service to listening to the population, can you imagine that they will have any success whatsoever in any kind of global diplomacy? They are too afraid to put their beliefs on the line.

  • “The administration not only promotes fear in the general populace, they are very frightened people themselves. They do not believe strongly enough in the validity of their positions to open them up for discussion. If this is how they treat disagreement in the U.S. where we assume they must at leat give lip service to listening to the population, can you imagine that they will have any success whatsoever in any kind of global diplomacy? They are too afraid to put their beliefs on the line. ” – Cathy

    Thank you Cathy for that clear insight.

  • “The thing is the U.S. is a country to be respected, I know its hard for the inmoral unethical left to understand but there are certain guidlines to be followed.”
    Comment by Abel Danger

    HA! Very funny. I hope you get paid for that comedy.

    The US is no longer respected. It used to be, and with the goodwill it had built up over, well, centuries, it could screw up every once in a while and still be respected as a fair and balanced arbiter of issues not only facing the US but the rest of the nations of the world. This is no longer the case–just read a few of the major non-US daily newspapers. There is some fear–not to be confused with respect–as this formerly respected country does possess significant weaponry whcih, in the hands of the wrong person, can be used for improper purposes. But respected? WTFU.

  • Thanks bubba, because Bubba just cooked my brains, particularily since as H Mac pointed out, she didn’t have her suit at the rally… a t-shirt is not appropiate attire for the event, and maybe she could have done things differently, but heck, she probably achieved her desired outcome. It has everyone talking about civil rights, no? In many ways, I can’t blame her for emotative reactionary behavior. She confessed to her lack for restrain on Daily Kos. I have even thought at times I wish she’d tone it down. Not any more. Swing away Cindy. Why the heck not? Why does she provoke such anger anyway? Are we so worried that our message will fall on deaf ears if it resembles any protest(er) similar to the Viet Nam era? Protesting should be as American as apple pie.

  • Abel Danger,

    citing drudgereport on this site isn’t likely to help you “win friends and influence people.” just saying.

  • One doesn’t have to agree with Sheehan (her message or her tactics) to be apoplectic about last night.

    While I personally might find a T-shirt to be gauche at the SOTU, I suspect I would find a leather jacket that says “Fuck the Draft” to be gauche in a courthouse as well — yet that is exactly the fact pattern in United States v. Miller, where the US Supreme Court correctly held the 1st Amendment protected the “speech” on the jacket against charges of public obscenity. The court noted that while the language may be offensive, sometimes it is the only way to convey one’s strong distaste for the draft.

    I have trouble seeing how that exact same argument doesn’t protect Sheehan. A nice, tailored navy suit from Ann Taylor with a subtly stitched “2245 dead – how many more” in a tasteful pastel yellow may not have conveyed the same message. Given the Miller case has been a known thing since the 1970s, what was done last night was just a knowing, wilfull, intentional violation of the Constitution. Disagree with her taste if you must, but to paraphrase the famous line defend to the death her constitutional right to be distasteful.

  • zeitgeist

    I don’t necessarily disagree with you but don’t forget, though, that the 1st Amendment rights are not entirely unfettered rights. There are such things as appropriate “time, place, manner” restrictions on such rights which have been held to be constitutional.

  • Can anyone name 4 reasons why anyone would be a democrat besides their hatred for Bush?

  • Re #25:

    Maybe you’re referring specifically to the SOTU address, but if not, in regards to the the rest of CB’s examples, which are all public political rallies: how is a political rally not an appropriate “time, place, and manner”?

  • Who are these people who think that there is an actual law that is broken when a woman wears a t shirt (“not appropriate?”) What country do you all live in where a person can be arrested for dressing in a t shirt–let alone for wearing a t shirt with a polite political observation? It sure isn’t America where there (used) to have to be an actual law that someone could point to before a person is arrested and charged with a crime.

    And as for Just Wondering
    I’m a democrat because I love my country, I love the constitution, I love the environment, and I love freedom. All of those are good reasons to be a Democrat and to oppose George Bush’s policies. The points raised by those attacking Cindy Sheehan simply make it more obvious that Bush’s supporters would willingly support the gutting of every one of our cherished freedoms and especially the freedom to “peacefully petition” our elected representatives. The constitution–check it out!

    aimai

  • So, Beverly Young was hustled out, cuffed, arrested, and charged with unlawful conduct, right? Because “Protesting” is a serious crime and we need to make sure that everybody understands that. Oh, I guess we’re still living in IOKIYAR land. Sheesh, I’m just asking for a little consistency here…

  • Bubba, Buddy, etc.,

    You’re wrong on the law, Cindy Sheehan had every right to wear that shirt in peace. I suggest that you go back to school and read up on The Constitution again, along with Bynum v. Capitol Police Board. Freedom of speech–learn it, live it, love it.

  • I would expect anybody wearing a t-shirt not fitting the decorum of the event to be expelled. Indeed, that has happened before, and is to be expected.

    Arrested, however… the case law there is pretty clear. A person cannot be arrested simply for wearing a t-shirt, and a t-shirt in and of itself is neither protesting nor sloganeering (the most relevant case law in this matter is Cohen vs. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971) where a young man was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that stated “Fuck the Draft!”). The Supremes have danced here before. If Ms. Sheehan had spoken or done anything to draw attention to herself she could have been arrested for demonstrating, but simply sitting quietly doesn’t qualify under the law. She can be asked to leave, and arrested if she refuses to leave, but under the law she cannot be arrested for wearing a t-shirt.

    According to witnesses and Ms. Sheehan herself, she was sitting down in her seat, taking off her jacket, when a Capitol Policeman pointed at her and shouted “Protester!” and several other policemen responded and arrested her. That is a completely different matter from being asked to leave, then being arrested upon refusal to obey a lawful order.

    – Badtux the Law Penguin

  • “The thing is the U.S. is a country to be respected, I know its hard for the inmoral unethical left to understand but there are certain guidlines to be followed.”

    You mean like obtaining search warrants? Avoiding conflicts of interest? Showing up for National Guard drills?

    I’m a member of the inmoral (sic) unethical left and need some guidance here.

  • #26:

    Seeing as many of us are Democrats, yeah.

    1. Environmental protection
    2. Reducing poverty and social inequality
    3. Sound fiscal policy, deficit reduction, economic growth that benefits everyone (see #2)
    4. Women’s rights (ie abortion rights, equality), gay rights (ie civil rights and marriage rights), freedom of speech (ie political dissent), separation of church and state, civil liberties (basically everything social conservatives generally oppose, though I can’t come up with a single term for them.)

    All of these are rather large categories that encompass a range of values that Democrats generally believe in, not just single issues. And all of which Democrats want to deal with but Republicans do not. Since gaining control of the government Republicans have only been interested in tearing apart the social safety net, giving handouts to their pals in big business and lobbying, and cutting taxes on the wealthy and upper middle classes. I’m sure I could come up with a few more, or a lot more if you wanted specific issues, but you asked for four.

  • I can’t get too worked up about this. I tried to get into a Nixon rally wearing a McCarthy button in 1968 and they turned me away. Does it suck? Yes. Is it illegal? Probably. But is it that big a deal? I don’t know.

  • Rian,

    yes, I am specifically referring to the SOTU. Not the other examples.

    and Pb, I am hoping you are referring to the “Bubba” and not me (“bubba”), but if you are referring to me, I think that you really DO need to learn your constitutional history and about all cases interpreting the bill of rights, particularly the first amendment, before you make such bombastic statements.

  • Just Wondering, you might also be interested in something Howard Dean said recently when asked to summarize the Democratic platform in 30 seconds.

    “One: American jobs that will stay in America, using energy independence to generate those jobs. Two: a strong national defense based on telling the truth to our citizens, our soldiers and our allies. Three: Honesty and integrity to be restored to government. Four: A health care system that works for everybody just like they have in 36 other countries. Five: a strong public education system so we can optimism and opportunity back in America.”

    I’ve also seen a few more things to add to my list that I probably didn’t cover. Universal health care coverage, and a foreign policy that based on cooperation rather than brinkmanship and arrogant unilateralism (ie cooperating with and respecting our allies, engaging our ‘enemies’ like Iran rather than isolating and them and allowing them to harden their stance against us.) Is that last one naive? I doubt it. Terrorism is way up, and world regard for us is way down. I don’t see how that’s a good thing.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6453.html

  • my bad. too many years out of school and relying on memory.
    Cohen is the correct cite. US v Miller is the lawfulness of regulations on firearms notwithstanding the right’s view of the Second Amendment. had my “i might need these to argue progressive principles someday” citations mixed up.

  • another example, don’t DARE carry the wrong flag near the boy king:

    ——-
    May 20, 2003, IndyStar.com (by Ruth Halladay)

    Be scared. Be very scared.
    You live in a city that harbors a “violent” flag-waver, a man so subversive that he “separated from the group” of his fellow demonstrators — talk about a radical! — during President Bush’s visit here last week. This crazed fiend then jogged along the sidewalk, “violently” waving his United Nations flag, according to an Indianapolis Police Department report, while the commander-in-chief’s motorcade tooled down 38th Street near the Indiana State Fairgrounds. The result? The nut job had to be “taken down” by an Indianapolis Police Department officer under direct orders from the Secret Service.

    Indianapolis’ collective nose, and nobody has raised a ruckus.
    It was hardly a ruckus in Criminal Court 10 on Monday, when 30 or so supporters, friends and family members of Rising-Moore tried to persuade Judge Linda Brown to reduce his bail from 20 Gs to zilch.
    It was an anti-ruckus, in fact: It was 11 people talking quietly about Rising-Moore’s principles, describing incidents in which he had calmed down explosive situations. It was powerful testimony — but what do you expect from people of the cloth, an IU law professor, Quakers and other Christians, an Air Force veteran bearing an American flag on his lapel, and a few sober-looking students?
    Actually, the quiet sincerity of Rising-Moore’s defenders was decidedly more persuasive than sound and fury.
    Even more persuasive are three affidavits gathered by Rising-Moore’s attorney Greg Bowes from witnesses to the arrest, challenging the Indianapolis Police Department’s report.

  • Rian thx for the ideas but what has Dean or any democratic congressman done about the enviroment, national security, poverty, education and keeping american jobs in america. All I hear is hate and disscent. They oppose every policy no matter what the substance with no alternate solution. I don’t see much hope for the party so full of hate. Also are you advocating Military actions towards Iran instead of sanctions?

  • In the northeast, people have been ejected from shopping malls for wearing political T-shirts like “No Blood for Oil” and “US out of Iraq”. Don’t think this is not a big deal; it is a first Amendment issue and is illegal.

  • Just Wondering

    Why do Republicans sport such poor spelling? Just wondering. And why do they parrot the same talking points; have you been programmed?!

  • Actually bean I’m was born and raised democrat but your comment is exactly what I’m talking about. I was raised to believe it was a party of compassion but it has become the party of dissent. Talk about programmed beans you only see black and white.

  • Just Wondering,
    Sorry, my comments were inappropriate. Things get a little heated up these days and in truth, I wish it was different.

  • Just Wondering: I was a far-right Republican, and your words ring oddly familiar to me.

    Whether you realize it or not, statements meant to lead are also created to narrow the context of discussion. Your initial post didn’t actually ask for reasons to be a Democrat, they implied that Democrats are as such merely due to their reactions towards George W. Bush being President. As if Democractic ideals and support of the party (in general) has occurred in a timeline surrounding GWB’s ascension, uniquely.

    Bush Republicans are not traditional conservatives, but extremists. They seek to squelch debate by creating fallacious arguments based upon unfounded assumptions and leading questions – always with the purpose of turning any responses to their odd, far-flung “logic” back onto those diligently attempting to respond.

    Your questions are mere rhetorical devices. Again, whether you realize this or not.

    I’ve used them many times in the past, and they mean almost nothing in terms of engendering actual discussion or debate. They are generally used as setups for loaded accusations.

    Perhaps you did not feel that you were being quite so unfair, nor that you honestly did any of these things on purpose. Now may be a good time to step back and view this for yourself. Obviously, don’t take the word of an anonymous poster like myself to your heart, though I might offer that you consider how your behavior can be interpreted by others in the above cases.

    Besides the point, Democrats are the minority right now for various reasons, and much of what they triumphed, enabled and variably attempted to do constructively in areas mentioned by Dean and others have been turned back in the past 5 years. Decades of progress killed with the swipe of two towers and lives of (initially) thousands of innocents. The reaction has been extreme, because the current crop of Bush Republicans are extreme – they do not represent conservatives or principled, moralistic people of much empathy or compassion for their country or beyond. They worship exclusive entitlements, above all things.

    If you want to see the Dems become more effective at attempting add back integrity and some measure of transparency to our reliance on a federal government, read what their mission is – take it with a grain of salt (because, nobody is perfect, and these are politicians) – then compare to what we see in government today, compared with periods of attempting -and, sometimes gaining – true progress and success in the country over the past 4 decades. I believe that Dems will appear as the better investment for the next few waves of elections, and hope you agree.

  • what has Dean or any democratic congressman done about the enviroment, national security, poverty, education and keeping american jobs in america.

    Are you serious?

    Environment: the creation of the EPA and the host of anti-pollution laws in the 70s were direct products of the efforts of Dems.

    National Security: FDR, Truman, Kennedy. If you want to debate this bring it on.

    Poverty: ever hear of the war on Poverty? Did you know that before FDR managed to get Social Security created as a program, huge numbers of the elderly in this country suffered from all the ill effects of poverty?

    Keeping American jobs in America: Hmm…lets see the biggest expansion of jobs in America in recent times occured under Bill Clinton. Republican policies seem to be the ones that directly encourage moving jobs overseas.

  • Cindy Sheehan is showing great courage in what she is doing. I wish both the president and the “mouth flapping-anti-Cindy- haven’t gotten up from in front of my computer and did anything near what she has done for freedom of speech and the anti-war movement” bunch had as much courage as her. Try putting YOURSELF in harms way instead of hiding behind a computer screen before making a fool out of yourself in criticising someone who is actually doing something. Go Cindy!

  • Just Wondering, you won’t find any progress by a Democratic minority under a Republican government. The thing about being in the minority is you don’t get to get your agenda passed. First of all, the majority gets to decide what bills will be discussed. Secondly, the majority has the votes to ensure passage of its bills, the minority does not unless it cooperates with the majority. And keep in mind that this Republican majority has been increasingly partisan. And, to top if off we have a Republican president with the power to veto any Democratic measure that did somehow meet Dennis Hastert and Bill Frist’s and several more GOP lawmakers’ requirements. Which, I’ll refer you to my initial response too, are largely, if not entirely, antithetical to anything on the Democratic agenda I outlined. Don’t be suprised when an actively-isolated minority can’t get anything done.

    Instead, look at what Clinton has done when the GOP in Congress had to cooperate with him. Kyoto was signed (which Bush famously backed out of,) he tried to get universal health care passed. He reigned over a huge economic boom that saw the wealth of economic growth reach all classes and reduced poverty, and rapid job growth in spite of NAFTA. Clinton took al Qaeda seriously, and recommended Bush do the same has his administration left the White House, but it’s highly questionable whether Bush did before September 11th, 2001. Clinton also made America well-liked, which kept terrorist recruitment low. And as Al Franken once quipped, “Clinton’s military sure did a great job in Afghanistan, didn’t they?” Pointing out that it was Clinton’s administration who equipped and trained those guys.

    On the state level, you have Washington’s legislature finally passing gay civil rights into law after trying for 29 years, Oregon’s Democrat-led state senate trying to pass civil unions but being stymied by the Republican-led state house who refused to discuss the bill, and an Oregon governor fighting the federal government to protect salmon and the forests (two different issues,) and fighting the Bush administration in court for the right to die.

    Dean in particular hasn’t done a whole lot outside of Vermont because he hasn’t actually held any elected position outside of the state. And I’m not a Vermonter so I can’t say what they’ve done there, but I think I heard they have civil unions there.

    CB worked for Clinton, I’m sure he could go into a lot more detail about what Clinton did on the national level. He also reads his comments sections, so I hope he does. (nudge nudge)

    And no, I don’t mean engage Iran militarily, I mean by bringing them closer to us, to make them NEED us, and use that influence to westernize and democratize them. Like we’ve been doing with China since Nixon. (Yes, a Republican, but things were a lot different then too.) Granted, China is still communist and have no freedom to dissent or religion, but they have far greater economic wealth, and I’m happy to concede the libertarian point that widespread economic wealth inevitably leads to political freedom.

    And I have to disagree that the Democratic party is so full of hate. It certainly has no comparison to the GOP hate machine running 24/7 on right-wing radio and FoxNews that constantly slanders and dehumanizes and vilifies us. Consider Bill O’Reilly’s seeming instability. It seems to be a prerequisite nowadays for a right-wing talk show host to be obscene and violent like him, often being aggressive and a bully to “unfriendly” guests, sometimes even on the verge of physical violence. Apparantly this demeanor appeals to conservatives. “Yeah! We’re right, and if you can’t take it, we’ll back it up by beating the snot out of you!” Also consider Democratic Senator Dick Durbin’s infamous comments. He promptly retracted and apologized for them, virtually before anyone had time to respond, but the right-wing media still flogs the offensive slur “Turban Durbin” to this day. Listen to AirAmerica radio for comparison – the tones of rhetoric don’t even come close to the offensive bile spewed on right-wing radio, FoxNews, and recently Chris Matthews. (Though I’m more a fan of Al Franken than Randi Rhodes, Randi is still too combative and rhetorical for me.)

    Dissent, on the other hand, is only to be expected. When the Republicans in power so often legislate in ways that are contrary to our values, you can’t expect us to shrug our shoulders and stay quiet. You can expect the GOP to do the same thing when they’re in the minority position, just as they did before 1994.

    And I’ll admit that the Democratic party does a terrible job communicating its policies, I think a lot of regulars here are in agreement on that, but it’s never been good at opposition. We DO have alternatives, but we have precious few platforms via which we can articulate them.

    I don’t want to make this post too long so I’ll leave it at that.

    #40: Zennurse, shopping malls are a different issue. As privately-owned places, the owners have the right to restrict speech in those locations. The First Amendment says that the government may not restrict freedom of speech, assembly, or religion.

  • Edo made me remember something I heard recently. Johnson introduced the Economic Opportunity Act as part of his War on Poverty, which brought poverty rates down from 19% (when the policy was announced) to 11% by 1973.

    From Wikipedia:

    Since 1965 America has never seen more than a 4% single-year drop in the poverty rate. Poverty saw its lowest point (11.1%) in 1973 around the same time America and other nations adopted fiat money and abolished the gold standard. Since then, the poverty line and the cost of welfare has become higher than it was in 1965. Again the Orshansky method of measuring poverty not being updated for modern costs requires emphasis.

    Poverty among Americans between ages 18-64 has fallen only marginally since 1966, from 10.5% then to 10.1% today. Poverty has significantly fallen among Americans under 18 years old from 23% in 1964 to 16.3% today. The most dramatic decrease in poverty was among Americans over 65, which fell from 28.5% in 1966 to 10.1% today.

    Today, more than 35.9 million, or 12.1% of Americans (as of 2004) including 12.1 million children, are considered to live in poverty with an average growth of almost 1 million per year.

    The OEO was dismantled by President Richard Nixon in 1973, though many of the agency’s programs were transferred to other government agencies.

    Since then Clinton reduced the poverty rate from 15.1% to 11.3%. (http://mediamatters.org/items/200509130002) I take it I don’t have to explain to you that GOP results have been disappointing, (and I’m trying to avoid flogging any old anti-Bush lines for you.)

  • I’m going out to buy a package of t-shirts this weekend…and mail them to the White House….

  • This is my take on Cindy Sheehan and the SOTU:

    During the Vietnam War, protests and other “street theater” were considered part of the national conversation – a conversation admittedly hated by the right – but one that was zealously covered by the networks on the evening news…

    The Repubs and the right learned one big lesson from Watergate – not the one about the limits of executive power – but rather the one about “don’t get caught”…

    They learned another lesson from Vietnam: censor and restrict the national conversation about US foreign policy adventures – i.e. no photos of a Bush motorcade juxtaposed against angry protesters, and God forbid a cut-away from Bush to Cindy Sheehan in a SOTU audience – and the conversation goes away….

  • Uh, I may have missed something here, but, has anybody seen proof
    the Senators wife was asked to leave? Video? Witnesses? A police report, perhaps? What a brilliant way for old Karl to diffuse an otherwise sticky situation. Got to admit, these guys are good.

  • I am shocked, shocked I tell you. Is anyone surprised that she pulled this stunt.

    I wasn’t. I would have bet money that she would have tried something during the speech.

    Hopefully she’ll run for the Senate in California. Gotta luv it.

  • Once again Bush shows his true colors when it comes to our freedoms as
    American citizens. The only freedoms we have are the ones he thinks
    are appropriate.
    Speaking of T-shirts how much longer before we are going to be
    REQUIRED to wear T-shirts (a-la Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe)
    with GW’s picture on them to prove we are loyal Americans?

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