Don’t worry; Bush says our privacy is ‘fiercely protected’

I guess today’s revelations that the [tag]NSA[/tag] is maintaining a [tag]database[/tag] of every [tag]domestic[/tag] [tag]American[/tag] [tag]phone call[/tag] has rattled the [tag]White House[/tag] at least a little, because [tag]Bush[/tag] felt compelled to make a brief public statement today.

“First, our international activities strictly target al Qaeda and their known affiliates. Al Qaeda is our enemy, and we want to know their plans. Second, the government does not listen to domestic phone calls without court approval. Third, the intelligence activities I authorized are lawful and have been briefed to appropriate members of Congress, both Republican and Democrat. Fourth, the privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities.

“We’re not mining or trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans. Our efforts are focused on links to al Qaeda and their known affiliates. So far we’ve been very successful in preventing another attack on our soil.”

Almost all of this was beside the point and an apparent attempt to confuse the public. Bush says our “international activities” focus on al Qaeda, but this doesn’t address the massive NSA database of domestic phone calls. The president insists he doesn’t listen to “domestic phone calls without court approval,” which may or may not be true, but the question today is why the government logs all of our calls into a secret database without court approval or oversight.

Bush wants us to know that he’s not “trolling” through our personal lives; he’s just allowing a secretive government agency to covertly [tag]log[/tag] every American phone call for [tag]secret[/tag] reasons, without oversight, and with undetermined controls on privacy and/or abuse.

Reading over the president’s remarks this afternoon (he did not take any questions), I kept thinking about the evolving nature of his defense. When the warrantless-search story first broke six months ago, Bush emphasized how innocent Americans’ calls were of no interest to the federal government.

“[T]hese calls are not intercepted within the country. They are from outside the country to in the country, or vice versa. So in other words, this is not a — if you’re calling from Houston to L.A., that call is not monitored. And if there was ever any need to monitor, there would be a process to do that.”

We could, I suppose, quibble over the meaning of the word “monitor,” but the president was, at a minimum, being disingenuous. The law-abiding American’s call Houston to L.A. is monitored, inasmuch as the NSA enters that call into a secret government database for still-unknown reasons.

It prompted Glenn Greenwald to note that federal officials “are so interested that they make note of it and keep it forever, so that at any time, anyone in the Government can look at a record of every single person whom every single American ever called or from whom they received a call. It doesn’t take a professional privacy advocate to find that creepy, invasive, dangerous and un-American.”

At this point, Congress seems interested in getting at least a little more information.

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said on Thursday he would ask U.S. phone companies whether they are providing phone records of tens of millions of Americans to the National Security Agency.

Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, was reacting to a report in USA Today saying the NSA was secretly collecting the records and using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity.

The disclosure, if confirmed, means the agency’s domestic program would be far larger than previously suspected…. Specter said U.S. lawmakers have been unable to determine if that domestic spy program was legal. “We’ve got to call on those telephone companies to provide some information to figure out what is going on,” he said.

Congressional Dems, meanwhile, are livid.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, held up a copy of USA Today’s front-page story during the panel’s meeting and said, “Shame on us for being so far behind and being so willing to rubber-stamp anything this administration does.”

He said that if lawmakers are unwilling to demand answers from the administration, “then this Congress, this Republican leadership, ought to admit they have failed in their responsibility to the American government.”

And my friend Peter Daou asked a question that I’ve been mulling all day.

When will this administration’s overreach attain crisis-level attention? Will it simply be another blogswarm and a few days of scattered coverage? Will OJ Simpson and Natalee Holloway and Michael Jackson and Bush’s rehashed speeches be the only items that receive roadblock coverage on the cable nets? Will Dem leaders step up and say “enough!” Will so-called ‘conservatives’ draw a line in the sand?

Once again, I have my doubts.

Unfortunately, I do too.

to link this and the following post, i think rove will kill a pretty white girl tonight and make her body disappear so that fox and the foxified media start chasing her instead of bush.

  • According to the Dartmouth Plan that’s going around, Justice O’Connor – Republican former justice – recently declared that the nation is facing the “beginnings of dictatorship” through this kind of abuse of power. Karl Rove understands that if we bomb Iran in September, the mess in Iraq will be irrelevant to voter decisions in November.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dartmouth_Plan

  • Forgot to include the contact e-mail on the document in case anyone wants a copy: Publius.for.progress at gmail

    I got mine through a friend in Chicago, but supposedly it’s available on request.

  • I can see Spector at those hearings now. I c

    Spector: “I remind you that you are not under oath, this is just a friendly conversation with the Senate Intelligence Committee, on the public record. Now, are you providing information of Americans’ telecommunications habits to the NSA?”

    Telecom execs: “No, we are not.”

    Spector: “Well, then. That’s good enough for me! I am convinced that this administration and the NSA are indeed protecting our privacy and not looking into our telephone conversations. I call these hearings to a close!”

    Leahy: “Wait a minute!”

    Oh, and yes, you can expect the mainstream media to be eager to get back to more pressing matters, such as Angelina’s baby or whatever.

  • I’m sure we’ll all feel much better once Tony Snow explains it to us.

  • Maybe someone like Plame or another Al(CIA has at least one as an employee) got hold of the NSA database?

  • Who is telling Boy George II that he has any creditability with the American people?

    How does he get off telling us who we talk to and how much we talk to them is not a matter of personal privacy? He won’t even tell us how often Jack Abramoff came to the White House or give the names of the Oil Company executives who were part of Cheney’s Energy Task Force.

    Bounce those points off his pointy head next time.

  • Don’t worry. If you’ve done nothing wrond you have nothing to worry about.

    The government will never use those phone calls you made to: escort services, 1-800 services, ex- or current girlfriends or boyfriends (esp. if married), gay or lesbian friends, alcohol related services (even if for treatment of alcoholism), or any number of other totally legal things against you in a court of law or for extortionary/threat purposes. Never. Trust Bush and Co. They would never think of using such info in such ways. haven’t they been the epitome of truthfulness since they too office?

  • First, our international activities strictly target al Qaeda and their known affiliates. Al Qaeda is our enemy, and we want to know their plans. Second, the government does not listen to domestic phone calls without court approval. Third, the intelligence activities I authorized are lawful and have been briefed to appropriate members of Congress, both Republican and Democrat. Fourth, the privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities.

    First, bullshit. Second, flat out lie. Third, no they’re not. And fourth, prove it.

    I’m sure folks in Germany once said, “Why should we care? We’re not Jewish.”

  • Score one for Bush’s word parsing. He’s right. After they look at our private matters they fiercely protect the information from anyone else wanting to know what they’re doing with it.

  • The ninth circle of Hell is too good for the Bush Crime Family.

    Actually, I shouldn’t put it all on the BCF. I wish I had more confidence in the American people, but I have a feeling – no, a belief – that they’re more ignorant, TV-addicted, politically apathetic, and ovine than they’ve ever been before.

    Bush said today that “our most important mission is to prevent another terrorist attack”. No, it isn’t, Georgie Boy. It’s “to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” – which the Regal Moron pisses on almost daily and wipes his ass with at least once a week.

    The pity is that Americans don’t seem to give a damn. Business (and keggers and church services) as usual. Yawn, glub.

  • Has it occurred to anyone that Jr. has only a few answers to anything? Whatever the scandal, he has the same answer to give. This is the same thing he said about the international calls. I guess he hopes that Americans aren’t paying attention.

  • My unscientific sense of this from the beginning was that this is an issue Americans will not like, the more they think about it. The ‘only calls to terrorists’ spin was enough for many to temporarily shrug it off, but I suspect many had reservations. We are fairly libertaian by nature. No one, left or right, wants a nosy government.

    Between yesterday’s early announcement that NSA would not grant clearance to DOJ investigators, and the later story on how widespread this is, this now goes to a whole new level. (I wonder if this story was leaked to retaliate for squelching the DOJ investigation?)

    I think the dynamic of this is much different today than it was 2 days ago. To my eye, Bush looked angry and scared today. I don’t see how NSA can continue to stonewall in light of the latest revelations. The stench from this may linger for months – the last thing Rove needed as we head into the midterms.

    The mantra of 9/11-9/11-9/11-terrorists-terrorists-terrorists has reached it shelf life. They think they can claim this protects us from terrorists, when they do nothing about port security? It’s presposterous.

  • The whimps in congress will not say enough is enough unless they hear in mass from their constituents. It will be hard for that to happen if the news networks do not get involved. I think the media have to carry this ball. A few thousand angry e-mails might help them do their job. I intend to e-mail the news srevices but it will take the effort of many to keep this one from dying. This is very depressing. If anyone says Clinton was a master of parsing words, I think GWB could teach us all quite a bit about the subject. Too bad nobody has caught Bush cheating on his wife yet.

  • Late on Friday April 28 2006 the DOJ filed papers in Federal District Court in Northern California which annoucned their intention to invoke the State Secrets Act with respect to the EFF lawsuit against AT&T for cooperating with the NSA in warrentless survalence.

    Why has this not received more attention?

  • We are now on the brink.

    This is one issue that ought to resonate with Americans. There is literally nothing stopping the government from using information gleaned from private communications to embarrass or destroy political–hell, personal enemies. I can already see some creepy geek at NSA who wanted a date in high school and got laughed off instead just going through some woman’s every phone call and email message to find something to get even. And who the fuck would know? Bush didn’t simply abuse the rights of just one American, like Padilla, but tens of millions! And the phone companies that colluded here need to be dragged through this shit on a hurdle and then drawn and quartered in full public view for abetting this gross violation of their trust. I’m fucking dropping AT&T from my long distance. Let them service credit-depleted red-state morons.

    And the notion of protecting us from terrorists is just so much bullshit. If that was remotely a serious goal, then why is OBL still on the loose & why aren’t our ports secure? Why is nosing around tens of millions of private communications so much more important than these other goals?

  • Dems can yell all they want but the GOP controls the legislative aparatus, so really, until GOP congressmen/women (I’m speaking to you Specter!) say “enough!” and the follow thru, the goalposts will be moved yet again. And again those who never drank the Kool-Aid or those in recovery will just be left gnashing our teeth.

    Of course all of those that continue to support the president and actually were naive enough to belive the claim that the NSA wasn’t tapping domestic calls should be worried. But many will continue to enable the GOP and the president.

    Yes, this story like all those that came before it, gets me angry but I am frankly more than just a little numb. I am tired of getting heated up about something they do only to realize nothing will change because there is no will to stop it.

  • Remember, the NSA is a Pentagon agency. It is the US military spying on us. Try this little rewrite on for the sake of paranoia:
    The United States Army has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans

  • Leahy saidthat if lawmakers are unwilling to demand answers from the administration, “then this Congress, this Republican leadership, ought to admit they have failed in their responsibility to the American government.”

    God bless Patrick Leahy. He was the only other Democrat to attend the Feingold censure hearings in April. So I’ll give him and Feingold a pass on this. But Leahy should include the spineless Democratic Caucus in his criticism. Democrats have been unwilling and unable to criticize a sitting “war time” president only because they’ve been afraid it isn’t a winning “issue.” So the president grabs more power than he’s legally entitled and strips citizens of more rights and freedoms. This strategy hasn’t won the Democrats an election in five years.

    The excuses for doing nothing are half-baked at best. “We can’t do anything because we don’t control the media/courts/Congress/etc.” And why is anyone pinning their hopes on Arlen Specter? The man has never come through when his country needs him.

    If Harry Reid can shut down the Senate over a stalled investigation on Iraq, why not this? I’m sure there are dozens of arcane parlimentary tricks the Dems could employ to effectively derail any Republican attempts to brush this aside quickly. Democrats should be doing everything they can to make sure Bush does not get away with this. Tie up Congress. Shut down the government. Censure the president. Impeach the asshole already. Take a stand and do something but don’t let him get away with it, because it’s going to be far worse news the next time around.

  • That little pop-up lecture from Bush about he “was not illegally spying” just felt like such a flashback to me to that Clinton pop-up where he wagged his finger and said he “did not have sex with that woman … Ms. Lewinsky.” The abruptness of it, the assertions made that, in both cases, you just knew didn’t smell or sound right. It even seems like the backdrop of books on the mantlepiece was the same. It all felt of a piece. Is there a place in the White House where presidents feel magnetically drawn when they have their backs against the wall and they have to plant their feet and sell a big lie?

  • Ditto that PRM. They need to all stand up and call bullshit on the whole operation.

  • Where are the trolls now?

    Where are the scared, WATB please-protect-me-from-those-brown-skinned-ayerabs types?

    C’mon trolls – there’s still time to blame the clenis for the decay of our democracy.

  • Under the so called “war on terrorism,” national security has become the administration’s magic trump card. It’s used to intimidate the press, silence opposition, circumvent the Congress and the courts, deny legal inquires, imprision people without charging them, engage in torture, lie to the public, start a preemptive and unrelated war, usurp the Constitution, breed and feed fear among the American people, and as a tool to stay in power. Feel free to add to the list.

    The more we learn about Bush’s concepts of “national security,” the less it seems to relate to security but to broadening executive power and shrinking civil liberties. Think about Aunt Martha having to take off her shoes while airline cargo went unchecked Again, what’s made all this possible is the “war on terror.”

    My sense is if we were able to unravel the security thread back to its source, we’d find that the “war on terror” is also a contrived. It’s a perfect scam — we don’t know where the enemy is but we know he’s everywhere, and with no definable end, who among us would recognize that we won.

    I wonder whether historians will ever learn enough to get to the bottom of what has happened these past 5 years.

  • “The United States Army has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans.” – KnightErrant

    Actually, no. The US Army does not have direct control and tasking of the NSA. The NSA is a defense support agency. It answers to Don Rumsfeld and John Negraponte (DNI) and the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Dr. Stephen A. Cambone. It does not answer to the Chief of Staff of the Army or any of his subordinates. It does have an Army component, the 704th MI Brigade, which supplies some of the NSA’s language specialists (when they are not being discharged for being gay). The Air Force, Navy and Marine also have component units under the NSA.

  • What amazes me is that the reporter from USA Today has been working on this story for months. Apparantly, someone in the editorial board decided that General Michael V. Hayden should not get a free pass on establishing such a program.

    As someone else pointed out, the program is a database with maybe four fields:
    Phone Number making the call,
    Phone Number being called,
    DateTime of the call,
    Duration of the call.

    With this information, the NSA is trying to match patterns of calls within the United States with patterns made between phone numbers already known to have been associated to terrorists. If they can see the same sort of pattern, then they can identify more individuals for the FBI (or some DOD agents) to investigate.

    Just remember, when they have a telephone number and a date, they can get your name and address.

    My chief concern is not the legality of this program. It is illegal. My concern is the potential for abuse, just as Mr. Flibble (#16) suggests.

  • From the WPost, for what it’s worth…

    Poll: Most Americans Support NSA’s Efforts

    The new survey found that 63 percent of Americans said they found the NSA program to be an acceptable way to investigate terrorism, including 44 percent who strongly endorsed the effort. Another 35 percent said the program was unacceptable, which included 24 percent who strongly objected to it.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375.html

  • Honestly, I don’t blame the Sadministration for pushing things like this. First and foremost, I blame and hold in absolute contempt all those morons who voted for this proven bunch of corrupt incompetents in 2004. I can only hope that some of them get abused by this program. Second, I blame the enablers–the GOP Congressmen/women. The DNC and every other Democratic Party alligned group had best get a very large chunk of change up and ready to start hard hitting ads that tie each and every one of these despicable congressmen/women with the actions of the Sadministration–something like “while Rep. X was asleep on the job, the Sadministration was secretly violating your civil rights, he/she never raised a finger, he she defended the Sadministration, he/she voted 95% with the Sadministration. It’s no wonder the Sadministration thought it could steal your personal information. Rep X is just as guily in his/her neglect of your rights.” These ads need to be played over and over and over again.

    Oh, and I see Bush is at 29% in the latest Harris poll.

  • I’m mystified at the poll results too, and can only think that the information simply hasn’t sunk in yet. How come so many Americans have such an endless appetite for bizarre conspiracy theories on the order of black helicopters, extraterrestrials being hidden by the Air Force, satanic cults, barcodes in the service of a UN take-over, jewish attempts at world domination, and heaven knows what else, not to mention their extremely widespread distrust of government with respect to national identity cards and national gun purchaser databases, but when we’ve got a completely real, rogue, “black-bag” government operation aimed at “total information” that lies completely outside outside the law, the collective response is a giant yawn?

  • Question, since it appears to be an accepted conclusion that all the “terrorist” activities and subversive undertakings (coverups), going back to the Kennedy assasination, are/were gov’t ops, then aren’t the good guys and the bad guys one in the same?
    Then if that is the case, who are the actual “terrorists” you are being protected from? The wolf protecting the chicken from himself.
    Question, will they be mandatory participants in the micro chip program? Question, are their calls being stored in the national database?
    Question, what about the 2 budgets that every level of gov’t apparently keeps. The one they use when they take your money and the second one( Comprehensive Annual Financial Report)(cafrman.com) that details the windfall profits they are making off the books, without giving you a dimes worth of value?
    Question, are all these “pandemic” scares being used to condition you into accepting a police state structure so when they decide the time is right for total control, resistance will be minimal. Aren’t they in the process of building “concentration camps” to house the population once the round up begins?
    Question, where is everyone going if they succeed in desimating your way of life?
    Just wondering.

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