Should the U.S. bomb North Korea?

Guest Post by Michael J.W. Stickings

In today’s WaPo, former Secretary of Defense William Perry and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, both under Clinton, argue that “if North Korea persists in its launch preparations” — which I recently discussed at The Reaction — “the United States should immediately make clear its intention to strike and destroy the North Korean Taepodong missile before it can be launched”.

Here’s the core of their argument:

Should the United States allow a country openly hostile to it and armed with nuclear weapons to perfect an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of delivering nuclear weapons to U.S. soil? We believe not. The Bush administration has unwisely ballyhooed the doctrine of “preemption,” which all previous presidents have sustained as an option rather than a dogma. It has applied the doctrine to Iraq, where the intelligence pointed to a threat from weapons of mass destruction that was much smaller than the risk North Korea poses. (The actual threat from Saddam Hussein was, we now know, even smaller than believed at the time of the invasion.) But intervening before mortal threats to U.S. security can develop is surely a prudent policy…

This could be accomplished, for example, by a cruise missile launched from a submarine carrying a high-explosive warhead. The blast would be similar to the one that killed terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq. But the effect on the Taepodong would be devastating. The multi-story, thin-skinned missile filled with high-energy fuel is itself explosive — the U.S. airstrike would puncture the missile and probably cause it to explode. The carefully engineered test bed for North Korea’s nascent nuclear missile force would be destroyed, and its attempt to retrogress to Cold War threats thwarted. There would be no damage to North Korea outside the immediate vicinity of the missile gantry.

It’s a compelling case, and I recommend that you read it in full. And, upon reflection, I must say that I’m not necessarily against it. Which is to say, I’m not against taking the North Korean threat seriously. It is, after all, much more serious than any threat Saddam ever posed to U.S. interests leading up to the Iraq War (although he of course posed a serious threat before the Gulf War and the containment that followed). Indeed, my problem here isn’t so much the use of force as it is the failure of the Bush Administration to engage North Korea in direct, one-on-one talks with respect to its nuclear program and possible efforts to find a suitable, mutually beneficial solution — conditional aid and trade, for example — to what has long been a crisis in the Far East.

But let’s not rush into this. As Noah Shachtman of Defense Tech notes, there may not be a missile, let alone a test of any missile. And there certainly isn’t much sense of what such a missile would be “capable of doing”. Kevin Drum is similarly skeptical, as is Laura Rozen. See also Peter Howard at The Duck of Minerva, who wonders if North Korea isn’t playing a game of “tit-for-tat” with the U.S., and The Heretik, who takes the policy of preemption to its logical conclusion and wonders if we haven’t “finally lost it”.

If nothing else, just consider the risks associated with such a preemptive strike. How would North Korea respond? Would it attack the South? Would it lob missiles at Japan? Would it now, or eventually, use its nuclear technology in some way against American interests? Is Kim’s regime irrational? Or is it playing an escalating game of chicken? Is this a prelude to war or to diplomacy, negotiation, and some sort of “cold” peace?

I’m interested in your views on this. What should the U.S. do about North Korea?

If we do bomb the missle launch site, we should also bomb all possible nuke sites, and all possible locations of Kim himself. He has never been tested. I don’t think he wants to give up his tall blond ladies for a war he can’t win.

  • The US should coordinate with China and Japan any response to N. Korea provocations.

  • Kim’s regime is totally insane, but he knows how to play the U.S. like a violin when he wants to. The world already knows that our alleged “missle defense system” doesn’t work. Maybe we should let Kim show us that his missile does in fact work or not, just so we can learn what their true state of readiness is. If it does work, then we can blow up the next ones to make sure they can’t take it to the next level.

    If we attack prematurely and blow up something that wasn’t working anyway, Kim will have made us look like fools (again) and be able to use the leverage to extract more stuff from us in the way of food and monetary aid. Which may be all he wants in the first place. With a nutjob like Kim, you never know.

  • We the public can only speculate what our government actually knows about the status of this missle or what Kim is planning. Can we be entirely sure that Bush isn’t “playing us like a fiddle” ?

  • William Arkin is also highly skeptical. See his two recent blog entries on the subject:

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/06/north_koreas_nonthreat.html#22309

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/06/north_korea_to_washington_love.html#22350

    He argues that the missile in question may be for th purpose of launching a satellite. Evidently that’s the conclusion reached by the National Air and Space Intelligence Center regarding the last missile test they attempted in 1998, in which the missile’s third stage failed. Beyond that, Arkin isn’t too impressed with the level of NK technology generally. To him, this is all much ado about next to nothing.

  • I’m with Curmudgeon on this one — let them test the missle first, then, if necessary, blow the next one (and its associated support infrastructure) off the face of the planet.

    Doing anything before that wouldn’t just make us look like fools, it would further cement the world’s view of us as the Earth’s Big Bad Bully, pounding the crap out threats both real and imaginary. While some may not care about the U.S. image, it’s vital if we plan on working in conjunction with anyone else in the future.

    I’m also for one-on-one talks with both N. Korea and Iran. Why the current administration can’t just sit down and talk makes no sense to me whatsoever. Granted, it may not solve the problem, but refusing to do so only makes Bush and Co. look as though they’re not even interested in solving the issues peacefully (which is probably the case, but still … )

    As I posted on my own site: Talk isn’t cheap — it’s free. And the costs associated with not doing so are entirely more than most of humanity should have to pay.

  • Bombing North Korea would certainly confirm America’s status as the world’s bully-boy.
    There is zero evidence that the Taepodong could actually hit anything.
    There’s scant evidence regarding North Korea’s nuclear capability.
    This is just Iraq all over again; find some external boogieman.
    Axis of Evil my ass.
    Korea is a fourth rate, third world state;
    it will never pose a genuine intercontinental or nuclear threat.
    This whole thing is absurd.

  • Should we bomb NK? No, we shouldn’t. Two very strong reasons for this are: 1) NK has a huge arsenel of conventional weapons poised to level Seoul specifically, and likely all of SK, should they be attacked, and 2) South Korea would hate us, possibly even side with NK against us. I could be wrong on this latter point but everything I’ve heard about SK’s attitudes toward the situation is they largely don’t like the American presense there, and long for reunification.

  • No we shouldn’t bomb them. I think China and Japan may have more to worry about than we do. Let China take them out.

  • I just thank God that this crisis has come about.

    Finally, FINALLY, Rumsfeld has a situation that he can use to justify the programs he really cares about, such as National Missile Defense, Conventional ICBM, Future Strike Aircraft, continental-ranged hypersonic weapon systems, and all those other gold-plated multi-decade development programs that were threatened to being cut, to pay for useless crap like better body armor, counter-IED systems, equipment maintenance and replacement, and all that stuff that’s needed to win the war we’re fighting now.

    Gotta love the timing

  • Must Read:

    Perry: Strike Korea Now, Get Intel Later

    The hype kicked into high gear when the New York Times claimed that the Norks “completed fueling a long-range ballistic missile” over the weekend. But the report is getting fishier by the second. The Norks generally rely on a highly corrosive gasoline-kerosene mix for their missile fuel, and an oxidizer containing nitric acid. It’s nasty, metal-eating stuff. And once fueled up, the missile has to be launched quickly — two or three days, I’ve been told — or else the missile is basically ruined.

  • On a related matter, CB wrote about BushCo. “turning on” the missile defense shield. I noted that it was unlikely that anyone at BushCo had thought through the consequences of this action should North Korea not back down. If the system is used the likely outcome would be failure of the system. If the system is not used, the question would be why. In either case, it would be tough for BushCo to spin. Today it appears that someone at BushCo has his thinking cap on. The president’s National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley has started the process of walking back the story.

    “We have a missile defense system … what we call a long-range missile defense system that is basically a research, development, training, test kind of system,” Hadley said. “It does … have some limited operational capability. And the purpose, of course, of a missile defense system is to defend …. the territory of the United States from attack.”

    My guess is that either W. or Cheney told the military to “turn on” the system without actually thinking things through. Is there any evidence that they ever think things through? It then fell on the staff to head of the certain debacle which this set into motion.

  • Bomb North Korea? I don’t know. How about a Blockade of Cuba instead? Ooops! Wrong decade. Sorry.

  • Wag the dog only works when the dog has one tail.
    Afganistan, Iraq, Iran and N. Korea are all wagging at the same time.
    Too many tails spoil the distraction.

    At this rate, Bush will look like he’s playing that coin amusement game “Whack the Gopher”,( where all these little cute critters pop up and down from numerous holes and you race against the clock to bop them with a mallet) .

  • Unholy Moses- I’d like to agree with you, but then the secret service would start playing “Whac-a-Kali”.

  • I certainly hope that the entire statement by Perry and Carter is actually an attempt to point out the absurdity of pre-emptive war. The entire idea is retarded (crass, sorry). Rian is right on in #8. We destablize the whole of East Asia if we do that. It is possible that NK is doing that by building this weapon but when they act the world can come in against them on the right side of the issue. If we cowboy in and blow crap up the rest of the world will turn on us, not North Korea. Stupid is as stupid does!

    Even Cheney and Rummy can be deluded enough to think we can offer any protection to Japan or South Korea. We cannot even occupy Iraq and Afganastan at he same time. What’s that saying about a land war in Asia? Do you think that applies if we get inolved in three wars in Asia at the same time?

  • I can’t believe we’re even having this conversation. Bush’s madness must be infectious.

    North Korea is not a threat to our security. Period. Neither is Iran, and neither was Iraq. But if we continue on with this insane policy of bullying and shoot first cowboy theatrics, we risk the possiblity that the rest of the world could get seriously pissed off at us, and then we’d be in real trouble. Does anybody think we would prevail in a confrontation with China, Russia and North Korea?

    How about if we join the world community and work toward peace and prosperity for all, instead of this new policy of acting like a rabid dog attacking everything that moves.

    I second bubba’s comment.

  • There are three places we should be bombing (none of them Iraq, BTW).

    Iran- Iran is blackmailing us on oil prices (invade us and the price of oil will triple!) and threatening to develop Nuclear weapons.

    Venezuela- Venezuela is blackmailing us on oil prices.

    North Korea- North Korea admits to having nukes, and is stating that it has ICBMs which can reach the U.S.- c’mon, what more provocation do we need?

    Let’s face it- if we are to remain the premier country on the planet, we cannot contenance blackmail from any given thrid-world country which wants to threaten us- either economically or militarily. So we should be making clear lines for these countries, and, when they cross them, bombing the shit out of them.

    It may not be pretty, but if we don’t do this, then we are practically inviting the next third-world despot dictator to do the same, undermining stability across the globe (much like a failed invasion of Iraq did, which has only displayed our weaknesses to potential enemies).

    – By the way, this is the opinion of a pure bleeding-heart liberal. I just understand that we will have to make sacrifices now, or the result down the road will be much more horrendous.

  • I’m with hark. NK is not a threat to us, any more than Saddam was.

    If NK was so crazy as to lob a nuke at us, they would die. Within minutes. So if they wanted to send one, they would be MUCH more likely to slip one in a shipping container. But they already have the other two WMD types (I would assume) and they haven’t sent any of those over here yet, probably because to get caught would be FATAL.

    We deterred the Soviets with “MAD”, why can’t NK continue to be deterred with “AD”?

    NK isn’t looking for a way to attack us, they already have that. IMO they’re looking for a deterrent, and maybe a product to sell.

  • Castor, if you think we should bomb Venezuela for “blackmailing us on oil prices”, you’re obviously not a bleeding heart liberal.

    A liberal would advocate getting free from our oil addiction, not kill the people who won’t sell us our crack for less than the going rate.

    Better luck under the next bridge.

  • Racerx- There are three types of warfare. Economic, Political, and Military Action. Of the three, Economic warfare is usually the deadliest and the messiest (Think Iraq sanctions during the 90s. How many hundreds of thousands died as a direct result of our economic sanctions against Iraq?). What these countries are engaging in against us right now is economic warfare.

    And what will be the result? If we don’t take decisive action, then every would-be dictator need only realize that he needs either a)control of some oil, or b)control of a nuke or two, and then he can do whatever he wants and we won’t take a single step to stop him.

    That instability will lead to the deaths of many more people than if we put a stop to it now (and, preferrably, yesterday or so). Yes, to preserve the world, we will have to decimate some parts of it, but the whole will be much better off for that.

    Look at the recent reports about how willing Iran was to negotiate a permanent peace right after we invaded Iraq (and what a chance, if only those idiots had taken advantage of it). Hell, our display of power there could have been turned into a peaceful resolution for the entire region (since Iran is the last hold-out directly fighting Israel via proxies).

    A true liberal understands and accepts that not everything will happen without some blood shed. But when it is shed, we want something good to come of it. (Don’t believe that? Then go take a look at the American Revolution, or the Civil War, when honest Liberals took to battle to defend what was righteous. Liberal doesn’t have to be synonymous with capitulation).

  • Castor Troy:

    You appear to suffer a particularly bad case of Cranial-Rectal Adhesion Syndrome.

    Let me assure you, what you’re breathing in there is NOT Chanel No. 5, as you have led yourself to believe.

    I think Joe Lieberman needs you on his campaign staff.

  • You can do better than that Tom! Argue against Castor’s points, don’t attack him like a…
    …Republican’t.

    No, we should not bomb NK.

    First, their missile might blow up on the launch pad or fail in flight. We blow it up and we convince everybody that it really is a threat, and one that could have reached Seattle at that. It probably would be lucky to reach the Aelutan(sp) Islands.

    Second, as another person has noted, the North Koreans have the capability of killing about a million people in Seoul in less than ten minutes with conventional artillery. More Americans would die in the first minutes of such a war than died on 9/11.

    Third, it would piss of the South Koreans.

    Fourth, the North Koreans are just playing us, as usual.

  • Paper tigers burning bright.

    The logic of deterrence passed with the loss of “mutual” from the assured destruction (MAD – M = AD). It is no longer necessary to await a first strike in order to unleash annihilation. Thus, in its de facto role of global police force, the United States has the prerogative to dictate to any other nation its preferred terms of conduct.

    What would be wonderful, from the point of view of the rest of the world, would be more evidence of genuine altruism and understanding of the diversity of people’s needs and aspirations in the exercising of its onerous responsibility. Hitherto, the United States’ concerns have appeared to be almost exclusively self-interested. The criterion for involvement is the extent to which so-called American interests may or may not be threatened.

    This may be transitional immaturity and may well pass as time goes on. We sincerely hope so.

    Situations are arising which test and further the development of this post-Cold War phase of human planetary evolution. The North Korean phenomenon is one such challenge. The repulsion of Iraq from Kuwait was an earlier one. What it does is it gives the world a chance to look at itself, assess its priorities and discover how to deal with very specific problems.

    Here, in North Korea, we have an example of a piffling little nation posturing in a ridiculous, but actually quite dangerous way. It is easily observed and its activities can be accurately identified. A relatively simple and assured remedy is available and the means are at hand. All that remains is to effect the cure.

    At first the patient must be given the option to attend to its own sickness but, failing success, must be subjected to the necessary intervention for its own and everyone else’s good.

    As I see it, that’s the scenario. The United States has the job of surgeon. The surrounding nations and the rest fo the world are the nurses, technicians, friends and relatives in attendance. The prognosis, after a little inevitable discomfort, looks good.

  • If the Bushies have trumped up this launch then they have no fear of acting as if Star Wars is functional. They know it won’t be tested and can even claim that it discouraged a launch.

  • Perhaps this debate would be better were we better-informed. This has been posted by Kevin Drum. If you go there, you can follow the hyperlinks to the original information. If this is accurate regarding the “fueling” of the North Korean missile, then all of this is so much hot air – of course, we’re fighting a bloody war over “so much hot air”, so there is evidence to prove that knowing the truth may not prevent stupidity, but it’s at least a good idea to be able to point and say “this is hot air.”

    MORE ON NORTH KOREA….Over at Defense Tech, Noah Shachtman is unimpressed with William Perry’s call to destroy North Korea’s missile test site before it can be used to launch a new, long-range ICBM:

    The hype kicked into high gear when the New York Times claimed that the Norks “completed fueling a long-range ballistic missile” over the weekend. But the report is getting fishier by the second. The Norks generally rely on a highly corrosive gasoline-kerosene mix for their missile fuel, and an oxidizer containing nitric acid. It’s nasty, metal-eating stuff. And once fueled up, the missile has to be launched quickly — two or three days, I’ve been told — or else the missile is basically ruined.

    It’s now been four days. And there’s been no launch. Which means it’s becoming increasingly unlikely that a missile has been fueled. So much for Perry’s demand “to strike the [missile] if North Korea refuses to drain the fuel out.”

    ….Now, what happens if we strike North Korea — and there’s no missile to hit? What does that do to American standing, then?

    As Kevin says:

    The New York Times does not exactly have a great reputation for balance and fact checking when it comes to passing along alarmist information about the axis of evil. Maybe the Koreans have just built a giant paper mache model?

  • What is North Korea’s motivation for all this saber rattling? Is its nutcase dictator obsessed with world domination? I don’t think so. He wants attention and clout for negotiations. At some point there may be solid reason to bomb NK, but not now. NK is still primarily an Asian problem.

    This bombing business needs some thought. Iraq is proving our (and anyone’s) inability to occupy countries. It’s one of many Bush screw-ups. We’re rapidly reaching a point where it’s “nukes or nothing.” Combine asymetrical warfare with economic and educational erosion, and US superpower status doesn’t look so super.

  • Wasn’t WWII remarkable by how so many countries came together to defeat a couple of self-proclaimed super powers run by delusional psychopaths that had plans for imposing their will on the world. How many pre-emptive strikes and attacks, slang for war crimes, will the rest of the world tolerate in this age before it is too much.

  • Consider Shrub’s point of view. He will probably have to spend the rest of his life in hiding anyway, so why not take a chance on a nuclear war with somebody? He might come out of it being a LIFE-LONG president in a bomb shelter waiting for the radiation to settle. That way he can hide in comfort. As far as Iraq, he has already shown an extreme indifference to loss of human life and the suffering he has caused. He should just go ahead and state his policy as “We are going to bring democracy to Iraq if he has to kill every Iraqi to do it. Now who else wants some? Bring them on.”

    Troy ass turd is as much a liberal as Lieberman is a democrat.

  • A liquid fuelled missile? A threat? Liquid fuelled ICBMs have a habit of being more dangerous to their users than their targets.

    That is so obsolete. It was technology that was ditched for solid fuelled missiles by both the US and the USSR.

    As someone of Korean decent, I have no love of the Kims or the madhouse they call a dictatorship, but attack’em? How are they going to stop the NK Army from crossing the DMZ? Or those underground tunnels they keep digging? Best wishes? From what little I know about the defence plans, basically it’s ROK forces hold on long enough for US reinforcements. Considering the state of US ground forces, what US reinforcements?!? Contrary to what the gurus at the Pentagon think, air strikes are not all the end all and be all of warfare.

    Let’em rot in that dumb till someone decides to put Dear Leader’s head is on a pike.

  • I don’t see what all the fuss is about. NoKo has been threatened by the power mad imperialist ruler of a foreign country who possesses WMDs and the publically-stated will to keep their use on the table. According to the Bush doctrine, they are well within their rights to strike us pre-emptively, let alone test a missile.

  • I’m not sure that Kim is nuts at all. He is cleverer by half than anyone in the Bush administration (not that that’s saying very much). IMO, he carefully cultivates the lunatic image to make his posturing appear more serious than it really is.

    The whole situation is too absurd for words. We’ve developed an antimissile system that can’t hit anything to shoot down a missile that is unlikely to work and can’t hit what they aim at even if it does work.

    That some people are close to panic over the North Koreans fueling a single missile is a reflection of just how dysfunctional America is right now. All we really have to do is sit down with the North Koreans and take them seriously. A good starting point would be a peace treaty to end the Korean War (we only have a cease fire with NK). Kim has demonstrated a willingness to work with us when we actually talk to him, and when we don’t reneg on our commitments.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think the Bush administration is either savvy enough or sane enough to deal with Kim.

    BTW, does ANYONE in the world believe our antimissile system has a prayer of working? I think it’s deterrance value is percisely zero.

  • I’m wondering if that was a trial balloon by the Bush people. Which would be unusually subtle of them.

    I think our allies in Europe would seriously begin plans for a separate NATO-type defense against the U.S. if we start acting like we rule the world.

    Until North Korea has a weapon ready to launch and is shouting obscenities at the U.S. declaring that their god requires that they exterminate our country — or until they take hostile action against some other country — we’re far better off keeping our hands off our guns.

  • shargash & others: the missile defense system is in its infancy. It will be a little better next year, and better still the year after that. Progress is made in small steps. If every media outlet in the world wasn’t trumpeting about how bad it was, it MIGHT actually have some deterrent effect.

    on Kim Jong Il: South Korea has prospered in the last 30 years – North Korea is a squalid slum, and that is purely the fault of the Kims. NK cannot afford to spend billions on their military, because people don’t even have enough food. But that is the choice the Kims made, and their county has paid dearly. The only war being fought is in Kim Jung Il’s head. North Korea IS George Orwell’s vision from 1984. It’s as though Kim Il Sung read the book and said “I want a country like that!”

    On negotiations: I agree with Unholy Moses (#6) – I don’t understand why the Bush administration won’t talk to NK alone, and insists on 6-party talks. Maybe it makes the regional players happy to be involved. I’m not sure it would solve anything, but at least then we could say we tried. 🙂

    Finally…

    on missile testing: In 1998, the North Koreans launch a missile with a range of 1600 miles, without the third stage firing. Is it possible that in the last eight years they have improved enough to at least reach Alaska? It is certainly feasible. Egyptians built pyramids 4000 years ago. Given enough time and determination, you can do anything. BTW, North Korea continues to claim their 1998 launch was successful in placing a satellite in orbit despite a) that being physicially impossible given the rocket’s trajectory, and b) that no such satellite has ever been observed.

    Furthermore, how do you build a better missile? You test fire one, observe what works and what doesn’t, and you go back to the drawing board. If NK tests this missile, they will gain crucial knowledge that will ensure they eventually develop ICBMs. But hey, if they want to keep test firing missiles, that’s at least a cheap(er) way to continue testing our missile defense.

  • Arguments about whether or not to preemptively attack yet another sovereign nation show a lack of intelligence, foresight, imagination, and TRUE diplomacy. America doesn’t have diplomats anymore. Now we make demands we know up front a nation will refuse to comply with just so we can say diplomacy failed and now we must attack. It’s bullshit.

    Many will not agree, but what would be wrong with:

    Phone rings. President Kim Jong Il picks up to find the new American president on the line.

    New Pres.-“Hello, President Kim Jong Il, I know that our two countries have had difficulties with each other, and I want to be the first to break this impasse. First, I’m personally ordering that several tons of free medical supplies with a staff of medical personnel be sent to you immediately to assist with the health problems you or your people may have. Second, I am simultaneously sending several hundred tons of food and grains, including all the new drought and disease resistant strains of grain that we have developed, and agricultural experts to help you establish a better food supply for your people.. Third, I am sending you a treaty for your consideration wherein I unilaterally establish that America will never attack you or seek to undermine your government as long as no international, horrific crimes are committed by you, with a further promise of military assistance should you come under attack by foreign forces. Fourth, in order for you to properly guarantee the safety and security of your country, I agree that you should keep some nuclear weapons and delivery systems, just like America does. Fifth, I would respectfully request that you sell any surplus nukes to us for a fair price, say, 2-5 billion dollars each, or whatever other price we can agree on BECAUSE NOTHING WOULD BE AS EXPENSIVE, TRAGIC, UNNECESSARY, AND HORRIFIC AS NUCLEAR WAR. And last, but not least, I would be happy to entertain you on your first official State visit to America, so we can sit down face-to-face and seal the deal on these things, like the world leaders we are and should be. I look forward to official diplomatic recognition of North Korea and establishing Embassies.”

    I know. Pure fantasy. A neocons worst nightmare: dealing with anyone in a fair, comprehensive, and sensible manner without subterfuge, dirty tricks, lies, and preemptive, illegal wars of aggression.

    But, hey, we can dream of brighter days of civility in the world, can’t we? (Or have I committed a thought crime by even suggesting true diplomacy?)

  • We cannot bomb North Korea, South Korea is on our side, a nuclear strike would hurt them, and we really don’t want any more screwups, we are already the laughingstock of the world over this stupid bush thing.

    Plus they have missles that will intercept nukes, we won’t reach them.

  • The US has become an extremely pathetic group of people.
    Look at the justice system. Look at the crime.
    Try walking in any street of a major city after dark without harm.
    Look at our educational system….declined for sure.
    Look at our value system……pay dumb people millions to throw balls into hoops or down cups on the green grass. Yet, allow millions to go homeless after major natural events. How about the jobless? One answer is to have illegal alliens live here . Real smart.
    Oh, you are on death row. Good for you. You get better medical attention and food than many Americans. What ever happened to real justice…hang them the next day.
    You liberals would jsut as soon allow your kids to sleep with rattle snakes than elimate the problem.
    Homosexuals allowed to marry? What the hell is this. They areviollations against nature !
    So, how about North Korea? Completely eliminate the country.
    Now, the US would be respected again

  • I believe that all war should be ended right now! I do believe that no one should be allowed to use any kind of nuclear weapons, due to everything is already beeing poisoned enough. I believe it is time for the world to retire and fix what we have left.

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