Bring on the civil suit

It’s hard to overstate how interesting this might be.

Valerie [tag]Plame [/tag]Wilson, Ambassador Joseph [tag]Wilson[/tag] and their counsel, Christopher Wolf of Proskauer Rose LLP, will hold a news conference at 10 AM EDT on Friday, July 14 at 10:00 AM at the National Press Club, 529 14th St. NW, 13th Floor, Washington, DC 20045, to announce the filing of a [tag]civil[/tag] [tag]lawsuit[/tag] against I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Vice-President Richard Cheney and Karl Rove.

The possibility of a [tag]civil suit[/tag] in this scandal has been in the background almost from the beginning. The Wilsons put the issue aside while the criminal investigation was ongoing, but now that Patrick [tag]Fitzgerald[/tag] has wrapped up his probe, it is, as Atrios put it, “game on.”

Remember, [tag]Paula Jones[/tag]’ civil suit against [tag]Clinton[/tag] led the Supreme Court to rule unanimously that these cases can proceed, even against a sitting president, so it’s not as if Bush’s allies are in a position to tell the Wilsons to wait a couple of years.

Consider, for a moment, just how interesting discovery in this case is likely to be. A decade ago, Jones’ lawyers used a civil suit to ask all manner of interesting questions, force White House officials to deliver under-oath depositions, and fish around for politically damaging information — which, if I recall, they found.

With this in mind, the Wilsons’ lawyers will likely get [tag]Cheney[/tag], [tag]Rove[/tag], [tag]Libby[/tag], and others — including, possibly, George W. [tag]Bush[/tag] — to answer questions, well beyond the scope of Fitzgerald’s narrow investigation. The possibilities are limitless….

Update: The AP and E&P have more.

The suit accuses the defendants of violating the Wilsons’ constitutional and other legal rights as a result of “a conspiracy among current and former high-level officials in the White House” to “discredit, punish and seek revenge against” Joseph Wilson for publicly disputing statements made by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union address justifying the war in Iraq.

As a result of Cheney, Libby and Rove’s conduct, the suit claims that the Wilsons have suffered violations of their rights guaranteed under the United States Constitution and by laws of the District of Columbia.

The complaint specifies that each of the Wilsons has been deprived of their First and Fifth Amendment rights; each has suffered a gross invasion of their privacy; each has been impaired in pursuing professional opportunities; and that they fear for their safety and the safety of their children as a result of the wrongful public disclosures. In addition, the complaint alleges that Valerie Wilson was impaired in her ability to carry out her duties at the CIA, and to pursue her career at the agency in further service to her country, as she had planned. While no specific dollar amount is requested, the suit seeks compensatory damages, punitive damages and attorneys’ fees and costs.

Second Update: For more detailed legal analysis, Brooklyn Law School’s Anthony Sebok wrote a detailed, twopart series last year delving into many of the legal questions surrounding a Plame civil suit, including Rove’s possible attempt at immunity and whether the Federal Tort Claims Act applies. For the die-hard Plameologists, the pieces are definitely worth reading.

The Joseph and Valerie Wilson Legal Support Trust:

http://www.wilsonsupport.org

… to contribute to legal fund.

  • All of sudden, Karl’s not going to be able to devote his full attention to the November elections, is he?

    Unless he resigns, that is.

    Quite the conundrum for Turd Blossom.

    Pull up a nice, comfy chair everyone, and break open a bottle of Maker’s Mark. The next several months are going to be quite interesting . . .

  • One of the best parts of this is this:

    “A decade ago, Jones’ lawyers used a civil suit to ask all manner of interesting questions, force White House officials to deliver under-oath depositions, and fish around for politically damaging information — which, if I recall, they found.”

    Sweet.

  • HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t wait to follow this baby! I guess you do reap what you sew.

    I concider this my morale boost for the day!

  • I have only skimmed the complaint, but I believe it was sheer brilliance to quote George H.W. Bush’s “most indidious of traitors” line right there on page one. The Wilson’s, I say, have lawyered up well.

  • Memo from Rove to Right Wing: Fire-up noise machine about activist judges, damned lawyers and the need for tort reform. Let the tsk-tsking from Fox News begin.

  • What makes anyone think “State Secrets” isn’t going to slam the door on this one.

    It’s sad to everyone getting so excited about nothing. Turd Blossom has been preparing for this from day one.

    How many times are we going to get excited, like we really got something this time only to be left wondering how they weaseled out of this.

    To actually think they are going to play the same rules as Clinton is absurd to say the least.

  • From Joe Wilson, today:

    As the CIA itself has officially confirmed, Valerie Wilson did not send Ambassador Wilson to Niger and she neither suggested him nor recommended him for the trip. Furthermore, the Ambassador agreed to travel to Niger pro bono with only his travel expenses being paid.

    And this is the thanks he gets!!???!! Smeared and demonized by the GOP administration? Shheeesh.

    Sue! Sue! Sue!

  • “most indidious of traitors”
    Could have been “invidious” as well.
    Comment by RSA

    Yes, but the indidious ones are the ones you really have to watch.

    Bushies are the politicians who can say No. No cooperation. No honoring the spirit of the law. No playing by the rules. This is a problem only Democrats can solve. God help us!

  • Nice job Fitzgerald. I wonder what he got to wrap up his case with nothing but a perjury charge and focus on Blagojevich in Illinois. Maybe a confimation hearing in his future.

    Topinka has of late become the prized pet of the GOP, and Rod really hasn’t done himself any favors. Looks like the road to the Presidential campaign starts in IL for the GOP contenders.

  • Fallenwoman,
    Like Ken Starr wasn’t one? My my how your memory is so short.

    I find myself in a 12 year old time warp as I get the vibe that this civil trial is the white fat version of the OJ civil suit. Couldn’t nab him thru criminal means so the victim’s familys took it thru the civil courts. Can’t wait for Karl to head off to Mexico in a White Jag with Novak behind the wheel…

  • This will be all bad news for the Reich. Every supermarket “tabloid” in America will start ramping up really bizarre stories like Bush or Cheney being Hitler clones or estranged stepchildren of Satan. And the folks who read (and, unfortunately, believe) that drivellous goo are about the only sector of the electorate remaining for the GOP to depend on….

  • Ahhhh, the sweet smell of payback…..

    The perps might try to pull the “national security” card but I don’t think much of their chances if they do. The Paula Jones case yanked the door wide open for this, and the only national security implications are concerned with how much Dick, Scooter and Karl violated them. So I don’t think they’ll get much comfort there.

    It might actually mean that the White House will finally have to bend over and take it like a man for once. Joe and Valerie Wilson are intelligent, experienced people with many friends, and they’re mad as hell.

    They may not win the case, but they have an excellent chance of throwing the whole Retardican machine into a tizzy just in time for the November elections, which will be worth the price of admission all by itself.

  • I agree with ScottW. Last year we all got a lump of coal in our Fitzmas stockings. I’m afraid this time around it might be a dirty bomb.

    I don’t think anyone, except perhaps the DLC (how else to explain their cowardice against this administration), appreciates the sheer breadth, depth, power and malice of this right wing cabal that has taken over our country.

    Nobody bad is going down as a result of this exercise. But a lot of good people are likely to get smeared and ruined if it proceeds.

    This is not OJ II. It’s Orwell’s 1984.

  • Imagine, Boy George II testifying without his teddy bear Dick Cheney. That will be worth the whole thing.

  • After the sham that was the Plame criminal probe – Rove obviously had LOTS to do with the leak – I am grateful to be reminded that we have still have a civil justice system to hold even the most powerful among us accountable for their misdeeds. Payback is going to be a bitch for the WH on this one.

    Maybe this will shed some light on Turd Blossom’s skeletons.

  • Not to interupt your Liberal Orgasmfest here, but keep in mind that discovery is a two way street and Joe Wilson is a known liar. What comes out may not be what you expect.

  • but they have an excellent chance of throwing the whole Retardican machine into a tizzy just in time for the November elections,

    Anyone have any insight into the actual timing of the civil suit? Will it even begin prior to the midterms?

  • A lot depends on which judge in DC federal district court is assigned the case and supervises discovery. I wouldn’t be surprised if the judge ends up giving broad deference to Cheney et al on national security grounds. A judge sympathetic to Cheney wont’ have any trouble finding reasons why the Clinton/Jones case doesn’t decide anything.

    I’m hopeful but skeptical.

  • What are the odds that they decide to settle out of court to keep everyone from being put under oath? I hope the Wilson’s refuse to settle and make them squirm.

    I think the White House will try to play the National Security card to get the case dismissed and try to fight it as long as possible so they can run out the clock of their presidenecy. Then if that fails they will offer a big cash reward to settle rather than go under oath

  • Just read the National Review’s Mark Levin’s take on this law suit – and as I explain in my tribute to the great economics from Dr. Robert Novak – the fact that Mr. Levin does not know YET who Valerie Plame is strikes me as another place where Dr. Novak can educate his rightwing friends. God – if the National Review did not exist, we’d have to invent it just for laughs.

  • Christy over at FireDogLake is saying the Fitzgerald Grand Jury is still around so there may be more indictments in the works. One can only hope. Of course, a Democratic House in 2007 could change everything.

  • I have no particular brief for the Wilsons… though it occurs to me that a career diplomat who was commended by Bush41 for his work in Iraq leading up to Desert Storm, and a 20-year intelligence operative working on WMD issues, have given a lot more in service to their country than Deferment Dick and Turd Blossom.

    What I am concerned about, and why I’ve always cared about this case, is that the rank politicization of intelligence and defense issues, if unpunished, will bite us in the ass a lot harder than it already has in Iraq. I hope this does become a fishing expedition; I want years of discovery, and I want all the slime and lies exposed. If the Wilsons are culpable, expose them too. But all the differences between Fitzgerald and Starr–the former’s unwillingness to go beyond his mandate, leak to the press, impose his own moral code on the law, and generally conduct his investigation as an inquisition–should get thrown out by the hired legal monsters I’m sure the Wilsons have retained.

    Go for the throat and leave blood on the floor; payback is, indeed, a bitch.

  • Scooter will probably ask for a delay according to Olbermann, so festivities may not begin any time soon. But just the thought of Cheney and Rove sweating brings a twinkle to my eye and a spring to my step.

  • I too am wondering how likely this is to get past broad claims of secrecy mandated by national security concerns. Also I’m not sanguine that the MSM will trouble itself to cover any of the details unearthed in discovery; this should have been a huge story from the get-go, but the gang of 500 ignored it then, and paying attention now would be a tacit admission they screwed up before.

  • I too am afraid this story may be lost in the more terrible news today about Lebanon and Israel. I hope for better but I don’t trust MSM.

  • This fan can cover my whole room with shit if it wants.
    Coprophagously yours,
    G.

  • Commenter dj moonbat over at TPMCafe writes that Jones“dispatched the argument that a sitting President was immune, for the duration of his presidency, from service for suits that arose from pre-presidential conduct. Clinton was trying to extend immunity to conduct that didn’t take place in his official capacity.”
    http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/jul/13/wilson_sues_rove_cheney_and_libby#comment-141310
    Thus, would appear that Jones isn’t pertinent. I have no legal training, and can’t validate what dj moonbat posts, but it does fit with what I remember.

  • All this means is that now Snow and others will again be able to say “we can’t talk about this because of the pending court proceedings.”

  • Have faith in Fitz. He has Rove by the balls.
    Our betrayal is by the main stream media. Rove’s lawyer says he has a letter from Fitz saying he “does not anticipate seeking” charges against Rove. But Rove’s lawyer WON’T PRODUCE THE LETTER.
    I am confident that Rove has been indicted. It is a classic consiracy case: the earliest cases are prosecuted for perjury & obstruction. The middle cases are indicted and sealed so as to not tip off the kingpins to the evidence the prosecutor has.
    Fitz is going after Cheney and has a lot of evidence against him. When Fitz indicts the perp is toast. The case against Libby is overwhelming. When legal experts read the case against Cheney they will be stunned.
    Joe & Valerie know all of this. Their goal is to protect human intelligence personel.
    They are the truest of American heroes – secret agents who believein, and fight for, open and democratic society.

  • Not to interupt your Liberal Orgasmfest here, but keep in mind that discovery is a two way street and Joe Wilson is a known liar. What comes out may not be what you expect.

    2Manchu, you beat me to it.

    A troll? At CB’s place, home of intelligent discourse??? Where’s that can of troll-be-gone when you need it?

    I keep hearing the “Joe Wilson is a liar” line spewed all over the talking head shows by the wingnuts. I’ve yet to hear any factual explanation for it. Until I do, Joe Wilson is a hero in my book.

  • “I keep hearing the “Joe Wilson is a liar” line spewed all over the talking head shows by the wingnuts. I’ve yet to hear any factual explanation for it. Until I do, Joe Wilson is a hero in my book.” – Diane

    I believe the story goes something like the Senatorial investigation into 9/11 deciding that Joe Wilson’s report said there WAS reason to believe that Niger was THINKING of selling Uraninum to Iraq, and Wilson lied in his article by reversing the meaning of his report.

    Not that I believe wingnuts.

  • Diane,
    Great minds, ya know.

    Lance,
    I agree on wingnuts. I think the other “Joe Wilson Lied” argument is that he supposedly said Cheney wanted him to go to Niger, when in fact what he said was that the OVP had contacted CIA about the Niger-Saddam connection, and that’s what eventually led to his trip there.

  • 2Manchu,

    That is another one. Why Cheney thought that would be a compelling argument with any but his wingnut base, I don’t know.

    But than, maybe he didn’t think it would convince you and me. Maybe he just thought it would arm the mindless horde that follow him with blinkers and ear plugs to further ‘protect’ them from reality.

  • “A lot depends on which judge in DC federal district court is assigned the case and supervises discovery.”

    The judge in question is a W. appointee who assisted Ken Starr with the Whitewater investigation.

    Also, as I seem to be saying everywhere, discovery on the merits will have to wait until the qualified-immunity rulings have been made (and appealed to the D.C. Circuit).

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