Bush and the War Crimes Act

Let’s shift focus, at least for a moment or two, away from Joe Lieberman and back towards George W. Bush, who seems to have some interesting ideas about the War Crimes Act.

The Bush administration has drafted amendments to a war crimes law that would eliminate the risk of prosecution for political appointees, CIA officers and former military personnel for humiliating or degrading war prisoners, according to U.S. officials and a copy of the amendments.

Officials say the amendments would alter a U.S. law passed in the mid-1990s that criminalized violations of the Geneva Conventions, a set of international treaties governing military conduct in wartime. The conventions generally bar the cruel, humiliating and degrading treatment of wartime prisoners without spelling out what all those terms mean.

The administration is reportedly willing to narrow the scope of potential criminal prosecutions to include incidents such as torture, murder, and rape, but omit what the Geneva Conventions refer to as “outrages upon [the] personal dignity” of a prisoner and deliberately humiliating acts. By this standard, the WaPo noted, it would be legal to tie detainees to dog leashes and force male prisoners to wear women’s underwear, which of course happened at Abu Ghraib.

Because nothing says “respect for American values” like forcing women’s underwear onto foreign prisoners.

James Joyner, whom I enjoy reading despite his conservative approach to politics, accurately described this as “a mistake.”

The problem is not that existing law is too strict but that the policy in question is wrongheaded. Following the Geneva Conventions is not only something the United States is obligated to do — indeed, the Constitution explicitly states that simple legislation can not override treaty commitments — but unquestionably in our own best interests.

Joyner also noted Gary Farber’s compelling take.

Because if American power to engage in forced nakedness of prisoners, to put them on dog leashes and in women’s underwear isn’t preserved, god help the survival of our nation. And its ideals.

If America isn’t about putting people on dog leashes and in women’s underwear, what is it about?

As for the administration’s argument that the Geneva’s Common Article 3 is overly vague, and therefore needs to be touched up by Bush administration lawyers, retired Army Lt. Col. Geoffrey S. Corn, who was recently chief of the war law branch of the Army’s Office of the Judge Advocate General, said the wording was “left deliberately vague because efforts to define it would invariably lead to wrongdoers identifying ‘exceptions,’ and because the meaning was plain — treat people like humans and not animals or objects.”

I’m afraid that’s pre-9/11 thinking, according to the Bush gang.

During the Second World War, because of our compliance with the Geneva Accords and our public good treatment of German POWs (to the point many didn’t want to go home after the war), the Nazis were forced to provide good treatment to American POWs they held.

During the Vietnam War, because of our compliance with the Geneva Accords, the United States had the moral stature to criticize North Vietnam for their treatment of American POWs being held and tortured at the “Hanoi Hilton.”

As a result of these far right assholes, we no longer have the moral authority to criticize anyone and have it stick. The enemy who holds Americans prisoner can treat them far worse than happened to John mcCain in Hanoi, and there will be little or nothing the American government can do about it.

This is “supporting the troops”?????

  • Farber’s got a nice take on things. I would have put it this way: If smearing fake menstrual blood on the faces of prisoners is what it takes to win the war on terror, then we cannot flinch from our duty.

  • “The Bush administration has drafted amendments to a war crimes law that would eliminate the risk of prosecution for political appointees, CIA officers and former military personnel for humiliating or degrading war prisoners, according to U.S. officials and a copy of the amendments.”

    SO that excludes whom?
    Political Appointees = Rummy and Gonzales
    CIA Officers = Anyone else they want to say work(s/ed) there but cannot prove due to security classification
    Former military = if a soldier gets caught abusing a prisoner or a villager or an imprisioned village goat you discharge them and poof you cannot touch them.

    Seems water tight to me.

  • “prosecution for political appointees”

    Says it all right there. Nothing else really matters to the Bushites but covering their butts.

  • These feminizing tactics are a red herring. Although humiliation is a terrible thing to do to someone, it is not torture. It’s the torture we should focus on. Real torture is what the Bushies are after. These other technics just make it seem relatively harmless. Hmmm, waterboarding vs wearing knickers. A no brainer.

  • Like the typical streetgang, the Bush regime does not grasp the difference between fear and respect. They are synonyms to the neocon mentality. Abuse and degradation may leave many to fear you, but won’t buy you an ounce of respect.
    In the battle for ‘hearts and minds’ the only real currency is respect. With fear comes resentment and anger. Bush and the neocons lost this war before they even started it.

  • They had better hurry if they want to get this stuff taken care of before the November elections. I have a feeling the Congress next year will be a bit less amenable to these sorts of disgusting acts of moral cowardice.

  • Man. I remember, back in the day, when America and its leaders would seek to shine some light on such conduct, instead of excusing such conduct.

  • Wouldn’t this be the classic “ex post facto” law that is prohibited in the constitution?

  • Bush and Cheney are international war criminals. They should be tried in The Hague and locked up for life.

  • I’m with Dale.

    Making soldiers wear panties and dog leashes is humiliating, but I think they can get over it. I’m not condoning it.

    Using intense physical pain is unacceptable. Torture is unacceptable.

    Humiliation and torture are two different things.
    Don’t let the White House act as if they are the same.

  • Y’know, if this law does pass muster on the Hill, then Herr Bush needs to realize that its application is a two-way street. We might be prohibited from prosecuting these non-cognizant knuckleheads as war criminals—but according the the High Holy BushSpeak—we can persecute them, and torture them, and do all kinds of wicked things to them, because we’re no longer held to the “vaguenesses of ethics” as established under the Geneva Conventions.

    Besides, it won’t hold water beyond the borders of the US—and the only legal way for this “law” to hold up at all is for Herr Bush to unilaterally withdraw the US from the Geneva Conventions itself. THAT requires more power than he can even dream of having….

  • …eliminate the risk of prosecution for political appointees, CIA officers and former military personnel…

    Basically anyone involved with the war?

    Bush continues to set new accountability lows.

  • Joe W: Like the typical streetgang, the Bush regime does not grasp the difference between fear and respect.

    yes about bu$hCo. but Tony Soprano knows ‘Those who want respect, give respect.’

  • Oliver Stone said something today, commenting on his new film *World Trade Centre”, that rings very true for me:

    “I think what might emerge is a re-examination of the feelings that day that were somehow transmuted into hatred and revenge and misunderstanding,” he said, ticking off what he sees as September 11 fallout — “a war, debt for America, a climate of fear, a breakdown of the Constitution.”

    I don’t believe I’ll ever comprehend the mentality of the Bush gang, nor do I feel it is entirely healthy to try. All I know is I have detested it from the beginning, and even before that.

    There are three issues, however, about which I would greatly appreciate clarification — though I probably seek the unattainable in relation to these degenerates.

    1) Is the United States formally at war with anyone?

    2) Is it legal, in constitutional terms, for an administration to draught and secure legislation that retrospectively negates laws under which they would be deemed to have acted illegally (Art K #9 suggests it would not be legal under the Constitution)?

    3) If the answer to 1) is ‘No’, then are these ‘Commander-in-Chief’ powers Bush is granting himself not vacuous?

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