‘The McCain-Lieberman Party’

I know it’s behind an annoying pay wall, but David Brooks brings up one of my favorite topics in his column today: a third party. It’s not one of my favorites because I think we need one necessarily; it’s because I’m yet to hear a coherent explanation of what this party is going to believe and stand for.

In April, we had the “purple party,” which apparently be Clintonian Democrats in everything but name. In June, we learned about “Unity08,” which turned out to be long on rhetoric, short on specifics, and more pie-in-the-sky than substance.

Brooks, meanwhile, believes there’s already a third major party: the McCain-Lieberman Party. Let’s take a look at the MLP’s agenda on the two big areas of interest: foreign policy and budgetary policy.

On foreign policy, [the McCain-Lieberman Party] agrees with Tony Blair (who could not win a Democratic primary in the U.S. today): The civilized world faces an arc of Islamic extremism that was not caused by American overreaction, and that will only get stronger if America withdraws.

Oddly enough, this is characterized by Brooks as some kind of middle ground. I have no idea why. McCain is solidly on the right edge of the GOP on foreign policy, and as it turns out, so is Lieberman. As Matt Yglesias put it, “The only way you can get McCain-Lieberman as representing a ‘center’ position on foreign policy is if you define the extreme conceptual right-wing pole as ‘whatever George W. Bush happens to think,’ making any criticism of his policies a move to the left.”

And there’s the budget.

On fiscal policy, the McCain-Lieberman Party sees a Republican Party that will not raise taxes and a Democratic Party that will not cut benefits, and understands that to avoid bankruptcy the country must do both.

I suppose there’s a hint of middle-of-the-roadism in there — raise taxes, cut services — but it’s an awfully convenient one for the GOP. Those who rely on government services most have gotten nothing but a raw deal from the federal government over the last six years, while the wealthy have been lavished with multiple rounds of tax cuts the country can’t afford. After this extended period of “compassion,” Brooks thinks it’s time to cut services more and call it “moderation.” Typical.

On a similar note, as Jonathan Chait noted, it’s particularly odd for Brooks to argue that take hikes and spending cuts are necessary since he’s never said a word while “Republicans have relentlessly moved in the opposite direction.”

I vaguely understand Brooks’ overall point, I think. He sees Lieberman as being to the right of the Democratic mainstream, and McCain to the left of the GOP mainstream. Put ’em together, and you have a nice centrist party that’ll stay in Iraq, privatize public schools, and promote free trade.

But this is the same mistake mainstream pundits have been making for far too long. Lieberman’s biggest problem isn’t a Zell Miller-like voting record; it’s his propensity for going on Fox News to undermine the Dems and enabling right-wing talking points. McCain, on the other hand, simply isn’t a moderate; he’s a conservative Republican who’ll occasionally talk a good game. Aside from maybe acknowledging the reality of global warming, Brooks’ column didn’t mention a single issue in which McCain is anything but a mainstream Republican.

And then there’s Brooks’ underlying message: that a unity party is an inherent good. Atrios took this on nicely:

One really has to wonder about the people who keep advocating a “unity” presidential ticket. Aside from the generally absurd notions of what a supermajority supported political center really is, it’s an obscenely authoritarian elitist notion. What’s “unity?” It’s what we say it is! Disagree? You’re harshing our unity man! Shouldn’t voters actually have a choice and a healthy public debate about the direction of our country? Hell no!

Fall in line people, get on the unity train. Don’t you dare try to add any divisiveness or disagreement. We’re all just trying to get along!

We know what’s best. And that Saint McCain is such a likeable guy. No need to concern yourselves about what he might do.

Sounds to me like yet another third-party idea falls apart after a couple of minutes of scrutiny.

“I’m yet to hear a coherent explanation of what this party is going to believe and stand for.”

The McCain-Liberman Party’s motto is “I’ll go anywhere, flip-flop any number of times, tongue-kiss any president, take any insulte regarding my children’s parentage, put my party and country last, deny I lost… absolutely anything to get elected.”

What really irks about the this column is Brooks’ (and the rest of media’s) assumption that moving from Lieberman to Lamont is moving from a centrist position to an extreme radical left one. How parchoial Brooks is.

  • A MCain-Lieberman Party ! I want to vomit !! A party like that only means destrucion, hate, and death, and we already have one party that already stands for those three virtues – The Republican Party !

  • Funny how Brooksie’s solution for all this destructive partisanship is that we all should become Republicans.

  • Another instance of Brooks’ conceptualizing and drawing connections where there are none or where he would like them to be.

    Plus, trying to define what is right, left, or center is not what we need now. These antiquated categories have not served us well and just get in the way of facilitating honest and open debate.

    Funny that Brooks chooses a couple of guys that have at least one thing in common — getting the Bush hug and kiss.

  • I have to agree with you CB that McCain is not a moderate-wing Republican. Nor is Lieberman a ‘moderate’ Democrat. The positions he holds are all extreme and all over the map. That makes him shrill, not moderate.

    Brooks, he is a loon.

  • Just like all you lefties supporting Lamont have perfected the act of humping the honorable Rev. Al Sharpton!
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    Funny that Brooks chooses a couple of guys that have at least one thing in common — getting the Bush hug and kiss.

  • He sees Lieberman as being to the right of the Democratic mainstream, and McCain to the left of it .

    CB, I am I missing something here? Don’t you mean to the left of the Republican mainstream?

    I’d also like to suggest a name for this new party: The Hugs and Kisses Party.

  • No, not at all. Just have no respect for men that frabricate hate crimes and create a divide between the races, and have no respect of the men that embrace that kind of man to simply attract votes.
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    It appears that JRS Jr is afraid of blackmen

  • Uh JRS, how would you characterize J. Leiberman’s embracing Bill Clinton to attract votes?

  • McCain and Leiberman is the ultimate illusion ticket – all nametags, and no substance to match. McCain doesnt back up any of his centrist talk with action, save for the little bit which he needs to to burnish his war hero status, like the anti terror bill, which he then goes and lets the administration just wipe its ass with. And Leiberman wants people to believe he is a Democrat because he once might have been one, and doesnt want to lose the benefit of the label. Meanwhile, both have a pretty solid record of being much more right wing than their labels imply. Ya know what, let me change that – this is the BS ticket, the marketing ticket. We’ll tell you what are product does, even though it lacks any of those real qualities. We’ll make a killing on it long enough for you spacecadets out there to think you are getting the real deal, then laugh in your face. Maybe this is just the F-You ticket. Whatever you call it, it’s an insult to those of us who are awake.

    And Im so sick of Brooks’ continual apologist spinning of every bit of reality that I can hardly read his column anymore. I dont know how he sleeps at night, really. He’s not a dumb guy, but, man, could he be a bigger shill? While he manages to define a middle ground, that rightly exists for a centrist/realist party, why then allow yourself to populate that ground with two people who have nothing to do with it, just to satisfy your craving to find a good way to make a Lamont win look like the hippies are taking over? Why is it so hard for him to realize that the people in the reality community arent against just the war, we are against everything the bush regime stands for? And we certaintly arent soft on terror, and it’s another insult to keep implying that. Damn, what a jerk this guy is. Is there one person other other than the famous “some” who has said publicly that we shouldnt keep breaking up terror cells and continue intelligence gathering and also spend more to protect the known and stated vulnerabilities in this country????

  • I wasn’t aware that Bill Clinton fabricated hate crimes, Lou??? You’ll have to refresh my memory on that one.
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    Uh JRS, how would you characterize J. Leiberman’s embracing Bill Clinton to attract votes?

  • “The only way you can get McCain-Lieberman as representing a ‘center’ position on foreign policy is if you define the extreme conceptual right-wing pole as ‘whatever George W. Bush happens to think,’ making any criticism of his policies a move to the left.”

    Which is precisely the ploy.

    First make ‘liberal’ a dirty word.
    That allows them to attack all ‘liberal ideas’ as dirty by implication.

    For example:

    Unions are liberal in nature. So unions are dirty.
    People who don’t like Walmart are just liberal union people.
    And as everyone knows… that is all very dirty.

    In this way you win arguments and elections by leveraging them with labels and nothing buy labels.

    Next label what was once the ‘center’ as ‘liberal.’

    That way when conservatives face blowback and must retreat (as any societal changes engender oppostion) they don’t have to retreat as far. They’ve established a deep beachhead. They’ve ceded terrain.

    You see the republican think tanks on the 80s and 90s did not seek to win the day by thinking through their arguments, (that way led to chaos) rather than spent their brain power on trying to promulgate their bad ideas with good media manipulation.

    So they were faced with this question:

    How can we make this phrase the scent of the times:

    Liberals bad.
    Conservatives good.
    All liberal ideas bad…
    All conservative ideas good…

    It isn’t philosophy.
    It isn’t logic.
    It isn’t truth.
    It isn’t human wisdom.

    It’s Orwell dummy….

  • JRS, OK, I guess I just mistook you for Ann Coulter, judging by your first comment. You are off the left hook.

  • It’s funny JRS Jr. but this sounds like someone that’s afraid of blackmen.

    The site of your boy, Lamont, flagged by Rev Al on the left and Jessie on the right is really going to appeal to the masses!!

    Now who wrote that? Oh yes, I remember; you did yesterday.

  • Reg, sorry I have to break it to you, but Jessie does not appeal to the moderate masses that Lamont will need to atract in order to win this race… Maybe Lamont should have thought to had a class act like Obama standing next to him.
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    It’s funny JRS Jr. but this sounds like someone that’s afraid of blackmen.

    The site of your boy, Lamont, flagged by Rev Al on the left and Jessie on the right is really going to appeal to the masses!!

    Now who wrote that? Oh yes, I remember; you did yesterday.

  • If McCain-Lieberman is representative of “unity,” and “unity” is recognized as “the bringing together of two disparate entites,” then the perfect analogy for McCain-Lieberman would be:

    “Titanic-Iceberg.”

    Yep—we’re talking infamous disaster here. twenty years ago, they were making major motion pictures about this kind of stuff.

    “The Poseidon Adventure.”

    “The Towering Inferno.”

    “Earthquake.”

    All star casts. Super-mega-mondo budgets. Media-hyped from here to the asteroid belt and back again. Guaranteed to have something that would satisfy EVERYBODY IN THE THEATER. And they stunk like old roadkill. Kinda like really old fast food that’s been in the trash for a few days. I suppose I could refer to these two nitwits as “The McDarth Party….”

  • The NY Times paywall is only annoying when I want to read Krugman, when it comes to Brooks it acts as a prophylactic device protecting the public at large from diseased thinking.

  • Marcus,
    Guess when I watch the Newshour on Friday evening, I’ll just have to depend on Mark Shield(s). Now, for someone looking for a new name for marketing rubbers, there you go.

  • Unity invokes duality which is its negation.

    As soon as you create ‘one’ you create non-one, which together becomes two. ‘One’ has its existence only in distinction to what it is not which is non-one. Otherwise unity cannot exist. So, it can not exist.

    Q.E.D.

  • McCain / Leiberman – we did nothing while the Republicant’s:
    gave away the surplus to the rich,
    lost Osama bin Laden,
    ignored North Korea and their missile program,
    pissed off our friends,
    couldn’t find the Anthrax terrorists,
    started a war in Iraq with no exit strategy beyond wichful thinking,
    and allowed Israel to destroy an up and coming democracy.

    Vote for us and see what it’s like to live in a third world nation without leaving home.

  • Soooo… is this David Brooks’s way of saying McCain doesn’t stand a chance of getting the GOP nomination in 08?

  • CB, I am I missing something here? Don’t you mean to the left of the Republican mainstream?

    Yeah, that didn’t make any sense at all. It’s fixed.

  • Well, it looks like the GOP wants to use racism to get Lieberman elected. Seems like a mistake in my book since Lieberman had the support of these people before. Don’t you remember that last week Lieberman said Lamont was too conservative? Lieberman has lost all credibility and all the GOP has to offer is boogey men. Sad.

  • I think everyone understands that, in Presidential politics, third parties are self-destructive, but not everyone understands that, in parliamentary politics, third parties often pay off big for their members.

    The British and Germans have both ended up with three party politics as a result.

    In the history of American politics, third parties are celebrated for that well-known self-destructive streak in Presidential politics, but third parties in Congress have almost always remained disguised and hidden, as one minority has acquiesced in the conduct of power by a complementary minority. In the New Deal, the liberals led the reactionary populists; under Reagan, conservative Democrats in Congress enacted the Republican agenda.

    You hear a lot about third parties right now, because the Republican Party is in danger of losing the allegiance of principled conservatives. As the Republicans get more corrupt and crazier, they become more repulsive and difficult to compromise with. A third party is what the Republicans need, to retain power — a way to remain “loyal” to conservative and reactionary policies, while distancing one’s self from the insanity and corruption of the Republican Party.

  • McCain/Bloomberg

    Mike Bloomberg is RICH and could easily spend more than the Democrats and Republicans combined.

    In some ways it is a scary ticket because McCain is a right wing Republican and Bloomberg is my kind of Republican – he is a liberal Democrat who decided he wanted to be mayor more than he wanted to remain a Democrat.

    I think Bloomberg would make a great President but I don’t think this country, or at least the courts, could stand another 4 years of a hard right Publican.

  • It’s official Lieberman has lost touch with reality.

    WATERBURY, Conn. – Sen. Joe Lieberman set out on his go-it-alone re-election campaign Thursday and seized on the terror arrests in Britain to argue that his Democratic opponent, Ned Lamont, does not fully understand the danger facing the nation.
    […]
    “I’m worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don’t appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us _ more evil or as evil as Nazism and probably more dangerous than the Soviet communists we fought during the long Cold War,” Lieberman said.

    “If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England. It will strengthen them and they will strike again.”

    Got that more evil than Nazis and more dangerous than the Soviet Union. Nazis:Holicaust. Soviet Union:Nuclear arsenal. So does anyone think Lieberman is correct?

    And then there is the BushCo favorite of conflating Iraq with terrorists that have no connection to Iraq.

    If this would have appeared in the Onion, and it could have, I would be laughing my ass off. As it is, I’m deeply embarrassed for Lieberman.

  • The nearest McCain has ever come to a central position was in the Keating S&L scandal, and not much even there.

  • The Flawed Couple: Can two egomanical hypocrites share a ticket without driving each other crazy?

    The McLie Party in 2008!

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