Hawkishness has nothing to do with strength

TNR’s Spencer Ackerman, writing for The American Prospect, has a new item that raises a point that seems obvious, but too often goes unstated: being hawk has nothing to do with being strong on defense. Ackerman uses Joe Lieberman as an example, but it’s a universal concept.

The sad truth, however, is that Lieberman’s equation of blanket hawkishness with credibility on security is likely only to harden if he’s defeated. For starters, Lieberman himself will doubtlessly peddle the myth that a Democratic flight from bellicosity is a flight from sanity, as he already did in Waterbury. Perhaps more importantly, Lieberman will be abetted by an extremely vocal neoconservative contingent, with allies (if uneasy ones) among Democratic moderates and in the Washington press corps. If there’s one myth that neocons have cultivated — and the media have bought into — since their post-Vietnam origins in the 1970s, it’s that the greater danger to U.S. security comes not from disastrous wars but from overzealous opposition to disastrous wars.

There are fewer more devoted adherents to that strain of American foreign-policy thinking than Lieberman himself. Call this perspective what you like — puerile, misguided, even paranoid — but don’t call it strong on defense.

“Blanket hawkishness” is surely right; Ackerman reviews Lieberman’s support for military action in literally every instance for 20 years, for reasons sometimes no more serious than hearing a president ask him to. This, in the minds of the political establishment, makes him “strong on defense.”

It doesn’t matter if military action was warranted, or wise, or effective in achieving some broader goal. If you want to drop bombs, you’re “strong.”

Or as Paul Krugman recently put it, “sensible.”

[Lieberman] has been wrong at every step of the march into the Iraq quagmire — all the while accusing anyone who disagreed with him of endangering national security. Again, on what planet would Mr. Lieberman be considered “sensible”? But I know the answer: on Planet Beltway. […]

They say: Pay no attention to the fact that I was wrong and the critics have been completely vindicated by events — I’m “sensible,” while those people are crazy extremists. And besides, criticizing any aspect of the war encourages the terrorists.

In other words, the “strong” and the “sensible” are the same people who are “wrong” and “misguided.”

It’s going to continue until the establishment begins to appreciate the fact that “strong on defense” has nothing to do with willingness to go to war. How long might that take?

Great article. It goes straight to the point for both Joe Lieberman and Dick Cheney. They love their wars, as long as they are not there and they are not paying. But they don’t love the military, which is decaying under their feet.

  • I always thought that a pro-military politician was one that tried to keep our soldiers alive.

    Hey CB that rightwing blogger Grim that you featured on the Daou report was one sick psycho.

  • CB, whats your cut for linking to a ‘select’ article? If Krugman(whose articles I used to savour) really thought that what he says is important…..

  • I just watched Ned Lamont’s appearance on ‘Meet The Press’ yesterday, and the guy was amazing. He put down every neo-con talking point and fabrication without a twitch. While Lieberman is self-destructing into tiny fragments, Lamont is looking and sounding better with each passing day.

    If he gets into the Senate, as I hope he will, I predict he and Obama will have a lot to talk about. Stay tuned.

  • Hey CB that rightwing blogger Grim that you featured on the Daou report was one sick psycho.

    Yep.

    CB, whats your cut for linking to a ‘select’ article?

    Don’t I wish. No, I link to Krugman because I enjoy Krugman. I realize, of course, that most people don’t have “select” access, but I include the link anyway, just in case.

    But just for the record, whether anyone clicks on the subscriber-only link or not, I don’t get a penny.

  • CB,

    I am so glad that you referenced Paul Krugman’s column from last Friday. It was stellar.

    I’ve heard that the Democrats have fifty former military people running for Congress this year! Is that true?

    And Curmudgeon,

    I saw Ned Lamont’s exceptional performance on Fox News Sunday (with Chris Wallace). The people of Connecticut will be proud of Senator Lamont.

  • The neocons seem to think that going into the bazaar with a machine gun blasting is “stronger” than going in with a rifle and taking out the guy you’re after.

    The Dem line needs to be as follows: “being strong doesn’t mean being stupid. We need to go after the bad guys with precision and integrity so that the whole world doesn’t become our enemies”

    Play to the two things most people agree on: Bush is really stupid, and he’s somewhat dishonest.

  • A favorite quote I once heard was that if the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The Republicans only tools in their toolboxes are swiftboats, guns and bombs. They see a problem and they either swiftboat it (if they can) or they send in the military.

    The Bush administration does not posess the tool of diplomacy and therefore has no other options in international crises. This lack of tools isn’t for the lack of brainpower in this nation, for this country does have skillful diplomats. Cheney and Bush just look at talk as weak and don’t have the brainpower to convince others to do what is in our interests … to this nation’s detriment. If you don’t believe this, just look at the yahoo we have installed at the UN.

  • Dale,

    My thoughts exactly.

    Only the GOP would adapt an Orwellian mentality where having Americans butchered and constantly in harm’s way is called “supporting the troops”.
    Just like the Clear Air Act and No Child Left Behind

  • 2Manchu,

    The BushCo terms are “Clear Skies” and “Healthy Forests.” Sick SOBs.

  • I’ve ALWAYS thought hawkishness was directly due to a sense of manhood or virility that was missing. GHW Bush invaded Panama when Noriega called him a wimp.

    As you may have read,
    Eric Margolis
    in the Toronto Sun claims that the real motive for the Israeli invasion of Lebanon was a bruised phallic ego:

    “The real cause of the latest Lebanon war, wrote Rosenblum, was not the seizure of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah, but an earlier, boastful TV speech by Hezbollah’s leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, that provoked Israel’s leaders.

    “Nasrallah taunted Israel’s new triumvirate of PM Ehud Olmert, Defence Minister Amir Peretz, and Chief of Staff Dan Halutz, sneering they were “small” compared to Ariel Sharon. “Adding fuel to the fire,” said Rosenblum, Nasrallah “emphasized the ‘small’ with his fingers.”

    “According to Rosenblum, “bad-tempered” Olmert, Peretz, and “arrogant Halutz” flew into rages at this grave insult to their manhood, and sought to prove they could out-Sharon Sharon by turning a minor skirmish into an all-out war.

    Don’t know if this can be relied on, but I wouldn’t be surprised. And we know all those administration “hawks” were too chicken to serve in combat themselves — this is their way of compensating.

  • Chickenhawks–and let’s face it, most people who swagger and threaten and stoke the fires of war in this country have NEVER served and scarcely know anybody who is serving now–have negated the association of “hawk” and “strong”. Think all those Rethugs with their band-aids, mocking Kerry’s purple heart. Only a fool buys what they’re hawking. Of course, that includes the MSM.

  • 2Manchu,
    The BushCo terms are “Clear Skies” and “Healthy Forests.” Sick SOBs.
    Comment by slip kid no more

    I’ve always thought that the better name for both those would have been “Leave No Tree Behind”

  • slip,
    Thanks for the correction, I knew it was something like that.

    anney,
    Yeah, Poppy screwed my Christmas leave for that year. Asshole.

  • This actually meshes well with a theme that has come up with some frequency here: the rebuttal of “strong” with “smart.” As in:

    Rethug Candidate: “My opponent, like all tofu eating, Volvo driving, joint smoking, blogging commie liberals, thinks we should just let the terrorists win. We need someone who is strong on defense!”

    Democratic Candidate: “This excellent example of Biblical creation — near as I can tell, his brain hasn’t evolved more than 7-days — ignores the fact that his party hasn’t caught bin Laden, hasn’t caught Mullah Omar, and couldn’t catch a cold if some lobbyist didn’t deliver it wrapped in $100s. They haven’t made you safer; they’ve made you have to get a strip search to ride an airplane. They haven’t been strong; they’ve hunkered down and gotten all soft from luxurious tax breaks. What we need is to be smart on defense. That’s what the new Democratic majority will be. We can outsmart the terrorists and truly be safer. Trust me, you don’t want these guys getting any stronger. Really. I can smell him from here.”

    Seriously, we need to rebut every time with “it isn’t enough to be strong on defense, we have to be smart on defense. being smart means you don’t stick with something that isn’t working. all the power in the world is useless unless you know what you’re doing with it — your car can have as big an engine as you want, but if you’re stuck in the mud and floor it, you just get more stuck. you can’t do something that reckless. you want to fight terror? be smart on defense.”

  • Trust me, you don’t want these guys getting any stronger. — Zeitgeist

    I agree with most of what you say, especially with the substitution of “smart” for “strong”. But, whenever I hear “trust me”, I gird my loins for a hard-sell of BS. I’d reject “trust me” as a convincing tactic and I suspect others might also (I’ve been told that people judge others by their own standards)

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