‘Foley’s downfall has pretty nearly decapitated the leadership of the House GOP’

Josh Marshall takes a step back from the Foley scandal to consider the big picture, particularly as it relates to the House GOP leadership.

[I]n the final weeks before an election it’s critical for each side’s leaders to work together seamlessly. And what do you think the Hastert-Reynolds relationship is like at the moment? Or how about Boehner and Hastert? They still trust each other?

And what happens when Joe Sestak asks Curt Weldon whether he’s lost confidence in Denny Hastert? How does that conversation go?

The simple fact is that to the extent campaigning determines the outcomes of elections, the race goes to the side that can remain on the offensive most consistently and define the national debate on its own terms. Foleygate has made it very hard for the leaders of the House GOP to go on the offensive on anything relevant to the election. For political purposes they’re basically out of commission. And they’ve given Democratic challengers in every district around the country a slew of questions with which to pummel GOP incumbents or any Republican, for that matter, who puts his head up on television. This is in the context of an election that was already going very badly for House Republicans. Foleygate has now made them all but politically defenseless in the final stretch of the campaign. And that is a very big deal.

Quite right. The Foley Five — House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), and Reps. Tom Reynolds (R-N.Y.), John Shimkus (R-Ill.), and Rodney Alexander (R-La.) — were all made aware of Foley’s emails. Right now, each of the five are trying to shift the blame to another member of the five. And aside from pointing a finger, they don’t much want to answer any questions at all. Their phones are no doubt ringing off the hook — but not from candidates anxious to have them visit their home districts.

The result is a party going into a difficult election season with a leadership that’s hobbled and at each other’s throats.

There’s already grumbling from the party’s rank-and-file members:

“Anyone who was involved in the chain of information should come forward and tell when they were told, what they were told and what they did with the information when they got it,” said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York. Mr. King called it a “dark day” for Congress and said, “We need a full investigation.”

Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut, said any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley’s behavior and failed to take action should step down. “If they knew or should have known the extent of this problem, they should not serve in leadership,” Mr. Shays said.

Every House GOP candidate in the country is going to get asked about their take on the party’s leadership in the chamber. It’s a lose-lose scenario for all of them — either the candidates express confidence in a leadership that looked the other way when confronted with information about a sexual predator preying on minors, or they create additional internal turmoil by withholding support for Hastert, Boehner, & Co.

The prior becomes a campaign issue that hurts a candidate’s chances; the latter keeps the cover-up story on the front page as Republicans give up on their leadership. (A free gift for the first person who can find me evidence of a House Republican launching a behind-the-scenes campaign for Boehner’s or Hastert’s job…)

If there’s an easy way out of this, I don’t see it. The GOP leaders made a serious mistake and now the whole party is dealing with the consequences. It ain’t pretty.

Guillotine! Mwahahaha!

Oops, back to my knitting.

  • The Foley Five

    Er, Foley IM’d and asked that you refer to the “Foley Six and a Half”. He just wants everyone on the same page.

  • Marshall’s analysis is only half the take. The other half is whether Republican voters will turn out in numbers in November. I can’t see any reason for them to stampede to the polls:

    “Now, today, I cannot think of a single traditional group of Republican voters that has not been embarrassed or demoralized by the Republicans running our government. Not one. Yes, people will still come out and vote for Republicans, and some will come out to vote against Democrats, but just about everything that could be done to make Republican voters feel stupid for voting Republican has now been done.”

    http://thepremise.com/archives/10/02/2006/252

  • Foley IM’d and asked that you refer to the “Foley Six and a Half”. He just wants everyone on the same page.
    Dale

    Fresca >>>> Monitor.

  • “Right now, each of the five are trying to shift the blame to another member of the five. And aside from pointing a finger, they don’t much want to answer any questions at all.” – CB

    Isn’t the spin going to be that the parents and pages were lapse for not taking the emails and IMs to the police?

    Surely Congress is not to blame?

    “Fresca >>>> Monitor.” – jc

    Didn’t laugh at the “Foley Six and a Half”. Thought your response was good though.

  • ” Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut, said any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley’s behavior and failed to take action should step down. “If they knew or should have known the extent of this problem, they should not serve in leadership.”

    On the one hand: DUH….

    On the other hand: How shameful that the above has to be even promulgated….

    Crikey….
    Talk about being asea without a moral compass…

  • “Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut, said any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley’s behavior and failed to take action should step down. “If they knew or should have known the extent of this problem, they should not serve in leadership,” Mr. Shays said.”

    Questions to Mr. Shays: Why are you still a Republican serving under this leadership? Could it be because you are elected from a safe Republican district and your seat in Congress means more to you than anything else?

  • Fresca >>>> Monitor.

    Comment by jc — 10/2/2006 @ 3:24 pm

    What does that mean? I don’t get it.

    Comment by Dale — 10/2/2006 @ 3:38 pm

    It means something humorous has caused your softdrink to squirt out of your nose with some force. From there, its all physics.

    -GFO

  • Fresca >>>> Monitor.
    t means something humorous has caused your softdrink to squirt out of your nose with some force. From there, its all physics.
    -GFO

    Comment by GuyFromOhio

    Ahhh. Thanks for enlightening me. I’ll have to ‘bone up’ on my IM lingo. Oh wait, that’s what Foley’s been doing.

  • Mr. King called it a “dark day” for Congress and said, “We need a full investigation.”

    How astute of Mr. King. Trouble is he seems to be unaware of the 2.5 thousand preceding dark days that he and his RepubCohorts have been responsible for without any acknowledgement at all. This Foley stuff is the tip of the iceberg.

  • So … I go over to the Daou Report and see that the right-wingers take. It seems to be one of two options::

    a.) Say that it’s all a setup — the e-mails were doctored! The IMs may have been, too! And there were people who knew about this at ABC and CREW and did nothing to stop it!!

    b.) Oh yeah? Well, the Dems are a bunch of perverts, too! (They then link to a bunch of stuff that happened decades ago, ignoring their own party’s more recent track record of peversity.)

    I thought they were all into personal responsibility and stuff. Guess only when it applies to someone without an (R) after his/her name.

  • This is going to take down the entire leadership of the Bush/Cheney/Rove GOP

    Yikes! Take it easy, we’ve certainly been down that road before. And it’s always a dead end.

    I’d say this has serious implications on the five involved here, but I wouldn’t even put money on Hastert and Boehner losing their seats at this point.

  • Foley IM’d and asked that you refer to the “Foley Six and a Half”. He just wants everyone on the same page.

    Oh. my. dear. God. I’ve finally stopped laughing. How I hope someone gets snookered into using that line at a press conference soon.

  • b.) Oh yeah? Well, the Dems are a bunch of perverts, too! (They then link to a bunch of stuff that happened decades ago, ignoring their own party’s more recent track record of peversity.)
    I thought they were all into personal responsibility and stuff. Guess it only when it applies to someone without an (R) after his/her name.

    Comment by Unholy Moses

    Woodward sure picked the key word for Republicans. Denial. It works for them at every level.

    I guess the response to that line of defense might be that luckily Dems have a leadership that disciplines its members and doesn’t try to cover up for them.

  • Ref #7 MW

    Shays is not in a safe district this year he is fighting for his life. And I would almost bet that if he does win and the leadership is not changed he will switch parties. He is very moderate.

    Rep King will also probally switch parties he is somewhat moderate.

  • Thanks for enlightening me. I’ll have to ‘bone up’ on my IM lingo. Oh wait, that’s what Foley’s been doing.
    Dale

    Fresca >>>> Monitor

  • TWO THINGS TO READ ABOUT FOLEY (or, why Hastert’s efforts to deflect the criticism to any media coverup are about to take a flying leap)…

    1. Howard Kurtz’s media notes extra, wherein he describes how the ABC reporter aparently posted the original ‘innocent’ e-mails on Thursday on the Blotter (their blog), and had responses regarding the explicit ones within a pair of hours (thereby eliminating really any possibility of a cover-up. I bet that these politically-motivated and interested former pages are dedicated followers of blogs in general, and PLEASE, Mr. Hastert, just try pinning the cover-up directly on the victims…)

    and 2. TPMMuckraker’s coverage of CREW’s receipt of the original ‘innocent’ e-mails, where they provided the material immediately to ABC and the FBI.

    Simply put, nice try, Hastert. I know you wanted to blame the press, just like it has worked to muddle things for you in the past. But, this time, it looks like everyone did exactly the proper thing, except for you.

  • Jay-zus H. Key-rist. Looks the the GOP Senate leadership wants to get in on the flaming self-destruction action, too (emphasis added):

    U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan guerrilla war can never be won militarily and called for efforts to bring the Taliban and their supporters into the Afghan government.

    The Tennessee Republican said he had learned from briefings that Taliban fighters were too numerous and had too much popular support to be defeated by military means.

    “You need to bring them into a more transparent type of government,” Frist said during a brief visit to a U.S. and Romanian military base in the southern Taliban stronghold of Qalat. “And if that’s accomplished we’ll be successful.”

    May it’s that Republican authoritarian streak biting them in the ass. Once one of them commits political suicide, the rest have no choice but to follow…..

  • REF# 17 Jim

    I am aware that in the current Republican party both Shays and King count as moderates. I am also aware that they both have taken positions in the past that I support. I am also aware that they both, by being in the Republican majority, have enabled the extremists in their party to gut our civil liberties and lead this country to ruin. You seem to suggest that I should cheer them because they MIGHT jump ship from the Republicans after the election. I will bet that if the Republicans maintain their majority in Congress, they will stay right where they are. If, however, the Republicans lose their majority control and then the y switch, I am afraid the only thing that comes to mind is an old expression having to do with rats and sinking ships.

  • sglover (20)

    Very nice; if you can’t beat them, let them join you, eh? Wonder what his current position on Hamas and Hezbollah is… 🙂

    Of course, Frist is about to leave Congress, so it doesn’t much matter what stupidity he utters; would be even nicer if we could get *Corker* to say something along the same lines. Or, at least, prove that Frist is only the tip of the iceberg and proposing something that the WH will endorse fully after the elections.

  • It’s true it is true the GOP leaders in the US House of Rep’s covered up and swept under the rug a crime and one of the most deplorable taboo crimes a human can Perpertrate…The crime of stalking a child for sex…The US House of Representatives is being run by a pack of Charlatans and Harlots who in an attempt to hold power protect and give aid to a Child Predator…The more one thinks about what the House leadership has done by protecting a child predator the more one becomes sicken by it’s very conception…My US House of Repersentives has leaders that allow it’s members to chase childeren around for sex through the halls of Congress…Where are my Kids?? Where is my sidearm?? YT….. Tues_Nov_7th

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