The first Foley-related poll

Chris Bowers raised a good point late yesterday when he noted that there seemed to be a dearth of polls in the wake of the [tag]Mark Foley[/tag] sex scandal. With a scandal like this dominating the political discourse, shouldn’t there have been several [tag]poll[/tag]s released over the last week? The story about Foley’s emails broke on Thursday, within 24 hours we learned of the IMs and Foley’s resignation, and by Monday, the GOP was in turmoil. Where are all the polls?

Today, we got our first hint as to how the electorate is responding to all of this. If you’re a Republican, it’s not good news.

Congressional Republicans, already struggling against negative public perceptions of Congress, now face voters who say new scandals will significantly influence their vote in November.

With midterm elections less than five weeks away, the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that about half of likely voters say recent disclosures of corruption and scandal in Congress will be very or extremely important when they cast their vote next month.

The poll was conducted this week as House Republican leaders came under increasing pressure to explain what they knew of sexually explicit messages from former Rep. Mark Foley of Florida to teenage pages.

Specifically, the poll shows that, by a margin of nearly 2-to-1, voters believe Dems would be better at combating political corruption than Republicans. For months, that hasn’t mattered too much — voters ranked the issue near the bottom of their concerns — but all of a sudden, with the public disgusted with what they’re hearing out of Washington, a gap like this could have a serious impact.

Speaking of the new AP poll, the news wasn’t much better for the Republicans at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.

The poll also found that President Bush’s efforts to depict the war in Iraq as part of a larger campaign against terrorism and to portray Democrats as weak on national security was not altering the political landscape.

Approval of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq was at 37 percent among likely voters, down slightly from 41 percent last month. Bush’s rating on handling foreign policy and terrorism also fell slightly, from 47 percent last month to 43 percent this month. […]

Overall, the president’s and Congress’ low approval ratings were essentially unchanged from last month. Among likely voters, 24 percent approved of the way Congress was handling its job and 39 percent approved of Bush’s job performance.

To make a long story short, it’s not a good time to be a Republican incumbent.

And the truth shall set you free:

“MSNBC also relays comments by Speaker Hastert this morning on the Laura Ingraham show. He’s still saying that he won’t resign: “if I pull up my tent and leave, and others have to pull up their tents and leave, because they would — where does that leave us? It lets the Democrats sweep and we have no ability to fight back.” ” (see TPMMuckraker)

It’s all about maintaining power and nothing to do with protecting the child victims. Power over Decency. Power over honor. Power over morals. Power over common sense.

  • “It’s all about maintaining power and nothing to do with protecting the child victims. Power over Decency. Power over honor. Power over morals. Power over common sense.” – bubba

    Power over America!

  • Could it be that…

    God sent unto America a pedophile,
    To halt her mad march to fascism?

    Truly…
    He works in such mysterious ways…

  • It’s funny, this morning on NPR’s Morning Edition they seemingly made a big deal about how the Foley fallout doesn’t appear to be affecting rural Republican voters. There evidence was there own un-scientific poll of 14 rural, Republican voters, all of whom said that their vote would not be affected by the scandal. They then said a new Pew poll would show the same thing. I went to the Pew website and cannot see that they have specifcally asked about the Foley issue.

  • Very good comment, bubba. All the GOP can focus on anymore is getting elected. Nothing else matters to them. They should relax … they’ve already demonstrated that what Diebold can’t fix the courts can.

  • The GOP, so desperate to ride this mess out, have forgotten what should be among the first lesson in politics:

    “A tsunami begins with a single drop of water; an avalanche begins with a single flake of snow; death begins with life.”

    I’d love to cite the old man who told me that, many years ago, but I can’t for the life of me remember his name. But I thought I’d mention it; it just seems to fit the way things are going….

  • Bubbe, koreyel, Steve, thanks for the thought(ful) provoking comments.

    Imagine what the media reaction would have been if Foley had killed 13 pages. In fact the killing of 13 Americans anywhere would be big news except when it happens in Iraq.

  • If my experience with GOP bad news is a guide, we won’t see the full effect of this in the first sets of polls. It takes awhile for bad news to settle in and be processed by the electorate. My recollection was that Katrina didn’t really start to drag Bush down for a few weeks after it happened. So don’t be surprised if we don’t see seismic impacts on GOP approval at first. It’ll come. Especially as this in one of those slow-drip things, and given that Hastert et al are apparently too pig-headed to leave right off the bat, we’ll have a nice slow ride all the way to November.

  • Ironic, isn’t it, that it’s the so-called “Christians” who just can’t let go?

    I was listening to NPR just yesterday where 2 calls in a row (at least one of which was from my own home state) stated firmly that they could not let the Foley incident sway their votes because nobody else was going to push their agenda forward.

    One caller seemed to speak in code (to the affect of: y’know… “issues” that are important to me) and didn’t even bother to mention his “issues” because he knows how unspeakable his agenda is. Let me remind everyone of what that agenda is:

    * Getting rid of gays

    * Getting rid of Hispanics

    * Getting rid of Scientists, judges and other people who “think they’re so smart”.

    * Not allowing the innocent unborn to go straight to heaven, but rather letting them live out their miserable, impoverished, unwanted lives until they finally commit some horrible crime.

    * The ability to snuff out those lives once said crimes are committed, sending them directly to hell before that prison ministry can convert the fetus to Christianity (the latter of which would make Satan no happier than he would’ve been about the innocent fetus going to heaven on a technicality; Gotta kill ’em on their time, not God’s).

    * Gaining a few extra cents per paycheck to insure that the adult fetuses don’t have a social safety net that might turn them from the life of crime that sends them to the death-chamber and on to hell.

    * Greater concentration of wealth to massively increase the numbers of unaborted fetuses going to hell.

    * Nuking the Arabs… thereby bringing hell on earth and sending lots more people to hell.

    Who’s side did I say these people were on? Oh, yeah… Jesus’; the long-haired guy who preached peace, tolerance, forgiveness and the kingdom of heaven for all of God’s children. The one that turned over the money changers, ignored purity rituals and got himself tortured and murdered for not going along with the religious establishment and playing political games.

    These are truly apocalyptic times. The irony is that those who actually believe in and welcome apocalypse, are the ones creating it and the ones who will be judged for it.

  • @3 [koreyel]

    And lo, unto you this day a child is born.
    He shall receive creepy e-mails from a chickenhawk sheltering among the war pigs.
    And yea, he shall speak about them, saying: Dude, this is sick.
    And the Speaker of the place called The House shall attempt to hide the child’s message away;
    But the message will not be hidden.
    And the chickenhawk will hide himself away in the place called Rehab. And he shall blame priests and booze.
    And the people will mock him and say: Yeah right.
    And he shall say: Did I mention I am gay?
    And the people will roll their eyes and say: So what? And thou art still a creep.
    And the child’s message shall unleash a torrent of freaky IMs sent unto others by the chickenhawk cooped up in the place called Rehab.
    And the people will say: Dude! Take a cold shower or something.
    And the Speaker shall race to and fro like a big blood tinged bucket of lard;
    And he shall stumble over his vile brethern who are also racing to and fro like frightened rats.
    And The Speaker shall cry out in a false voice (that sounds a lot like Jabba the Hut’s): He did it nay he did it nay it is a conspiracy by the enemy to undo our mighty plans.
    But it will be for naught.
    For the one called Fordham shall become wrathful and step forward crying: That is not kosher.
    And verily will The Speaker and his minions be screwed nine ways from Sunday and spend the rest of their days in the Newt Gingrich Home for Political Hacks whilst Lady Liberty & Lady Justice dance capers upon the ones called Bush & Dick and all of their creatures.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

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