The company they keep

I’m a little behind on this one, but the New York Times ran an item the other day that deserves a closer look. The Times notes that the Bush White House held a quiet meeting with five right-wing talk-radio hosts — an event that was not announced on the president’s public schedule — as part of “an intensive Republican Party campaign to reclaim and re-energize a crucial army of supporters that is not as likely to walk in lockstep with the White House as it has in the past.”

Bush gave these five — Mike Gallagher, Neal Boortz, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, and Michael Medved — a private audience for an hour and a half, apparently because the right’s noise machine seems to be breaking down a bit. As the NYT put it, “Conservative radio hosts are breaking with the Republican leadership in ways not seen in at least a decade…. Disgruntlement can now be found not only among the more flamboyant radio voices, like Michael Savage, who raged against Mr. Bush’s proposals on immigration and other issues, but also among more mainstream hosts, like Laura Ingraham.”

“Mainstream”? Nico did a nice job yesterday reminding us exactly how “mainstream” the president’s friends are.

* Sean Hannity (“[M]aking sure Nancy Pelosi doesn’t become the [House] speaker” is “worth … dying for“)

* Neal Boortz (Islam is a “deadly virus“)

* Laura Ingraham (Sens. Biden and Boxer are “on the side of” Kim Jong-Il)

* Mike Gallagher (Gore and Hitler “brilliantly put together side by side” in campaign video)

* Michael Medved (“[T]he subject of my conversation with the president of the United States” was that Islam has “a special violence problem.”)

I’ll never quite understand how GOP leaders are able to get away with hanging out casually with extremists, with no fear of consequence.

When radicals like Jerry Falwell and Ann Coulter get together for a right-wing event in Washington, Republican presidential aspirants and White House officials think nothing of standing by them, side by side. Indeed, John McCain has cozied up to Falwell, even after Falwell said Americans “deserved” 9/11.

A couple of months prior, a fringe theocratic group held an event at which the event’s sponsor unveiled his new book, “Liberalism Kills Kids.” Clearly, the Republican establishment would want to keep their distance from such radical activists, right? Wrong. The GOP sent three leading House Republicans (Tom DeLay, Todd Akin, and Louis Gohmert) and two leading Senate Republicans (John Cornyn and Sam Brownback).

And now the White House has no qualms with offering a private audience to right-wing radio personalities who say pretty embarrassing right-wing things on a daily basis. (Limbaugh was invited but didn’t go.) What’s more, this barely raises an eyebrow from the political establishment. For Republican leaders in Congress or the White House to hang out with obvious extremists is simply considered routine and acceptable.

There appear to be two sets of rules. If Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) benefits from an email solicitation sent by MoveOn.org, the right goes berserk. If Jim Webb (D-Va.) takes out an ad on Daily Kos, the Republican machine is all over it, accusing Webb of catering to “extremists.” And yet, no one is too extreme on the right for GOP leaders.

Does it occur to the Dem establishment to engage in a little guilt-by-association once in a while? Conservatives and the GOP establishment seem to use it to great effect.

no one ever went poor by overestimating the american capacity for hate.

  • Limbaugh was invited but didn’t go? That sounds like a more interesting story than what actually transpired here. Has the administration sunk so low that Rush Limbaugh feels at liberty to blow off an invitation from the president of the United States?

  • Look, the Dems are on this, but they get no traction from the MSM. How many proposals, issue papers, and programs have they unveiled? Lots and lots, and we know it, but the MSM reporters still ask “when are you going to give us something to vote for, rather than just voting against the Republicans?”
    The MSM ignores the Dems, period. Almost all of their “conventional wisdom” is based in Repub talking points.
    That’s why.

  • Right wing extremism percolates hate and violence just under the veneer of its rhetoric. Left wing extremism, at least the kind the MSM reluctantly recognizes, bogs down in its minusha. If it bleeds, it leads. The story is with right wing extremism, and you need to allow the extremists the platform to stir the headlines. -Kevo

  • We just need to start tar and feathering them with what their buddies say. If they want to hang out with these types, start putting what they say in campaign ads.

  • I think James has got the story. The wingnuts now want to attack the Bushites, and who can blame them. Everything the wingnuts have been claiming to be for the Bushites have undermined.

    Really, it’s not a great time to be a conservative in this country, especially when you think that every one of those autocratic laws they’ve put in place will soon be wielded by Nancy Pelosi and then Hillary Clinton 😉

  • BUT, on the bright side, Sen. McCain promised to commit suicide if the Democrats take back the Senate! I am looking forward to finding out whether he follows through. If not, we can solidly label him a flip-flopper (“So, Senator, you were for suicide before you were against it…”)!

  • See, we Democrats are naturally handicapped.

    By nature of our beliefs, we have trouble with making ourselves fight unfairly.

    Always been one of my big frustrations — even though I’m as much a slave to the notion as most other Dems I know.

  • One of the big problems here is the fact that when the right tries to smear Dems through association with MoveOn and other such groups, the right is pandering to a bunch of folks, the far right mostly, who are either actually ignorant or intentionally ignorant and who will soak up such nonsense. If the Dems were to try this, their likely target is other Dems or those in the “moderate right,” folks who are not actually ignorant or intentionally ignorant and who do not fall for such crap.

    That said, I think it is a valid defense, to be used when the far right hate mongers start trying to demonize Dems for contacts with legitimate groups like MoveOn, to point out the standard set by the highest levels of the GOP and how they have pandered and continue to pander to the far excrements of their party.

  • Swiftboating is all about crafting an organized attack at the top, but dictating talking points so nasty that they are only intended for bottomfeeders to spew. Noise machine is to kind a word for this. It is political pornograghy (in the sense that the content is intended soley to create arousal).

  • Don’t forget this gem from Boortz:

    … I believe that the main reason the execution of Tookie Williams won’t be executed is because Schwarzenegger knows full well that as soon as Tookie’s death is announced there will be riots in South Central Los Angeles and elsewhere. The huge media exploitation of this story has made drop-dead sure of that. There are thugs just waiting for an excuse … not a reason, an excuse. The rioting, of course, will lead to wide scale looting. There are a lot of aspiring rappers and NBA superstars who could really use a nice flat-screen television right now.

  • I guess anyone that sounds like that crazy-ass aunt/uncle you have at your family reunion isn’t much of a shock to most people.

    And I thought there was only one Mouth of Sauron.

  • If any honest, rational person needed evidence for the non-existence of the ‘liberal media,’ this is yet another example.

    Traditional journalism is dead to me. There is no fourth estate.

  • The pot is calling the kettle black.

    Al Sharpton ran for President and was included in the debates.

    Not only has Sharpton said some of the most absurd things in politics, he was convicted or ruining a man’s life.

    I would love it if both sides told the extremes in the party to go take a hike.

  • Neil Wilson,

    You can’t draw a parallel between Al Sharpton and the right-wing talk show freaks. Sharpton defamed a private citizen, and was successfully sued. It’s one incident that occurred 20 years ago. It sounds like he rightly was held to account.

    Hannity, Coulter, Medved, Limbaugh, Ingraham consistently slander and defame public figures, race bait, and make thinly veiled incitations to violence. In stark contrast, they are lauded for their efforts and given private audiences to the highest government officials.

    See the problem?

  • “I’ll never quite understand how GOP leaders are able to get away with hanging out casually with extremists, with no fear of consequence.”

    Probably the same way right wing extremists get away with calling themselves “conservatives.” Liberals and moderates don’t call them on it enough because we tend to err (and I do mean err) on the side of sensitivity about labeling and tolerance for diversity of opinion when it comes to calling a right wing crazy a right wing crazy.

    You can completely lay this one completely at the feet of the dreaded MSM either. Make a survey of liberal and lefty blogs right now and I bet you will find the most common term used to describe the likes of Hannity, Boortz, Gallagher, Ingraham, Limbaugh, Malkin. Medved, and all their right wing crazy friends, is “conservative.”

  • There have always been two sets of rules with Republicans: ours and yours. People on our side get a total “pass” on anything they do because they are The Forces of Good, and people on your side can’t get away with anything because you are The Forces of Evil.

    President Clinton put it right yesterday when he called them “reactionary extremists” who have taken over the Republican Party.

    They do not play by the rules, they are far right radical revolutionaries, and anyone dumb enough to let them define the rules deserves what happens to them. We need to declare Open Season on them and get them any way we can. If it takes outing a Mormon Senator for his “tea room addiction,” well and good. Live by the sword, die by the sword, futhermucker. Whatever else it takes.

    “The only good Republicans are pushing up daisies.” That was the rule 80 years ago and ot still works.

  • Neil: We can always count on you to be fair and balanced. But Sharpton was a bonafide candidate in 2004 whose campaign rhetoric, as I recall, was comparatively low key. Of course he was included in the primary debates. Would you really have excluded him because, in your opinion, he has said some “absurd things”?

    And are you really saying that it’s inappropriate to criticize Mr. Bush’s secret tete-a-tete with the talk-show ideologues because of the existence of Al Sharpton? Sounds like you may have O-Ded on right-wing polemics. Take some Pepto.

  • This is what I don’t understand, why are uber left people considered extremists ? Because they are extremely left ?

    Let’s see, they chain themselves to trees, through blood on furs, and vandalize.

    On the right, let’s see, they kill abortion doctors, burn down churches, blow up buildings, and a bunch of other non-sense that involves killing or at least pushing people down.

    Yet the two are equated as equal, we even do it, why ? Our extreme wing is less extreme then their mainstream, yet even when we discuss it amongst ourselves we refer to them as extremists.

    What gives ?

  • Later we’ll learn mAnn Coulter snuck in the back and Jeff “Drop & Give Me 20” Gannon provided entertainment. I’m not up to snuff on the breadth of war crimes tribunals. Could these bastards be roped in (and I do mean roped) for disseminating the Criminal-in-Chief’s propaganda?

  • I heard on AAR that Rush Limbaugh didn’t go because he had a conflict in his schedule and so he had his own private meeting with the president last week.

    Pass the Oxycontin please.

  • It’s really annoying having to behave like adults. But isn’t there a little idea called “freedom of association” hanging around out there…isn’t it in the Constitution someplace?

    Sure, hold the President accountable for his words and deeds. But look, some of my oldest friends are Republicans. (really!) Wouldn’t want that used against me someday.

    I know, we’re talking about holding him accountable for meeting with “extremists”. But even that seems risky. I have a conversational relationship with a local guy who’s perceived to be at the far left end of the spectrum. I learn stuff from him. Don’t agree with all his views and tactics. Am I automatically discounted from being an elected official because I chat with this guy?

    I find it discouraging when Democrats and progressives seek to justify sinking to Hannity/Limbaugh’s level of discourse. I don’t want to live in a world ruled by children….even if they are on the same end of the political spectrum as me.

  • I find it discouraging when Democrats and progressives seek to justify sinking to Hannity/Limbaugh’s level of discourse. I don’t want to live in a world ruled by children….even if they are on the same end of the political spectrum as me.

    THIS IS HILARIOUS!

    Doug doesn’t like Hannity/Limbaugh’s level of discourse, but it is US who are at fault for pointing out that it is disturbing to us that the President is meeting privately with them.

    If you don’t think we are already in a world ruled by children you are either mentally-disabled, a child, willfully ignorant, or believe that the Bush Administration is enacting an agenda darker than is talked about in the Dougs-of-the-world social circles(how rude it would be to insuate that Bush/Cheney/etc. are not acting in the best interests of the country).

    Doug – Next time you decide you want to post an assinine comment like the one above, please sit back, close your eyes, and the feeling will pass.

    Am I acting like a child? No. I’m acting like someone who is pissed off at what is going on in this country and sick of people saying that Dems/libs/progessives need to be more civil when popular radio/television personalities are paid big bucks to say that people like me should be killed or jailed!

    “Avram, stay in line and be quiet or they might single us out. I’m sure there are just relocating us to protect us. What, the railcar has no bathroom? That’s okay, I’m sure they’ll occasionally so we can go to the bathroom.”

  • “Avram, stay in line and be quiet or they might single us out. I’m sure there are just relocating us to protect us. What, the railcar has no bathroom? That’s okay, I’m sure they’ll occasionally so we can go to the bathroom.”

    Excellent illustration of Doug’s point.

  • Rambuncle for President!

    I don’t know if I can accept your endorsement. Who is this “local guy” from the “far left of the spectrum” with whom you have a “conversational relationship”?

    [if I misread your parody concern troll, I can only say that it is too hard to tell anymore, and I might be sorry, but not before I find out about that “local guy”]

  • #24 Rambuncle said: “If you don’t think we are already in a world ruled by children…”

    Yep, I do. I’m tired of childish leaders. I’d like an adult for a change.

    #27 Rambuncle said: “[if I misread your parody concern troll…”

    Nope. I’m not a troll…if by that you mean a Republican/conservative trolling liberal blogs.

    Nope, my comments weren’t meant as parody. What I meant by “It’s really annoying having to behave like adults.” was that while it may feel good to behave like Hannity and company, — didn’t you feel euphoric after sending #24 — we can and should do better?

    Yep, my response #26 was insincere. No need to worry whether to accept it or not.

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