Who’s divided on Iraq?

For the better part of 2006, the dominant political argument about Iraq is that Democrats “disagree among themselves” over the war and a strategy for the future. Republicans were committed to “staying the course” and “more of the same,” but among Dems, there was a great deal of diversity of thought. Indeed, just yesterday, Bush said, “Democrats have been all over the place” in their own Iraq policy.

Nevertheless, it seems the parties have largely switched sides, at least as far as unanimity is concerned. Consider, for example, that one prominent senator yesterday said that Iraq was in “chaos” and that it was “worth trying” to partition the country into three semiautonomous regions. This same senator said she would have voted against the war resolution in 2002 “if I knew then what I had known now on the weapons of mass destruction.”

Sound like a Dem? Perhaps, but it was Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R) of Texas.

It’s just one hint of a larger Republican crack-up.

Public anxiety over the Iraq war, already reflected in polls and demands from some Democrats to withdraw U.S. troops, is now prompting calls for change from some unlikely quarters: Republican congressional candidates.

Across the country, GOP candidates are breaking with the White House over how long troops should remain in Iraq and who should lead the war effort.

Even some of President Bush’s staunchest allies in solidly Republican states are publicly questioning the administration’s war policies, while others are scrambling to find new ways to talk about Iraq in the face of rising voter frustration over management of the war.

“We haven’t found one part of the country, even in the South, where it is good to say, ‘Stay the course,’ ” said Sarah Chamberlain Resnick, executive director of the Republican Main Street Partnership, a group for GOP centrists. But Republicans “don’t want to do a major in-your-face with the president. They are trying to work around the issue in their districts.” It doesn’t seem to be working.

So, what happens next? According to a good front-page piece in the WaPo today, “major changes” are inevitable.

The growing doubts among GOP lawmakers about the administration’s Iraq strategy, coupled with the prospect of Democratic wins in next month’s midterm elections, will soon force the Bush administration to abandon its open-ended commitment to the war, according to lawmakers in both parties, foreign policy experts and others involved in policymaking.

Senior figures in both parties are coming to the conclusion that the Bush administration will be unable to achieve its goal of a stable, democratic Iraq within a politically feasible time frame. Agitation is growing in Congress for alternatives to the administration’s strategy of keeping Iraq in one piece and getting its security forces up and running while 140,000 U.S. troops try to keep a lid on rapidly spreading sectarian violence.

There’s some solid reporting in the article, and it quotes just about everyone from Dems, to Republicans, to scholars, to military experts. There were no quotes or comments, however, from the Bush administration itself. That seems like a fairly important detail.

The consensus seems to be that the status quo is simply untenable. The administration’s existing policy is an obvious failure, and all available evidence suggests the policy will never work. Given the circumstances, it seems obvious that events here and in Iraq will “soon force the Bush administration to abandon its open-ended commitment to the war.”

That sounds very reality-based, but I’m not convinced. These obvious facts are not new, and yet the president and his team have managed to ignore reality for quite some time. The Bush gang’s capacity for delusion should not be underestimated. Just because it’s painfully apparent that dramatic change is absolutely necessary in no way means Bush will actually consider it.

Indeed, consider yesterday’s White House press briefing. The far-right Washington Times reported that the Bush gang was considering a “dramatic change of direction” in Iraq. Tony Snow responded by calling the story a “bunch of hooey,” and then called several other ideas for a turnaround in Iraq “non-starters.”

Q And just to follow on “hooey,” the things that are raised in this hooey-filled article, such as the division of Iraq —

SNOW: Yes, partition — non-starter.

Q Non-starter? Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison raised it yesterday —

SNOW: Again, as I said, we have, in fact, considered — we consider lots of things. We’ve thought about partition, for a series of reasons —

Q Phased withdrawal?

SNOW: — again, you don’t — you withdraw when you win. Phased withdrawal is a way of saying, regardless of what the conditions are on the ground, we’re going to get out of Dodge.

Q The 5 percent solution —

SNOW: No.

Q Non-starter?

SNOW: Non-starter….

The president said just recently that says he’s going to stay the course, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones left in the country supporting him. It may come to that.

Snow may be a lying liar… but I’m actually with Snow on the subject of partition. How arrogant, condescending, presumptuous can we be? Partition should happen naturally based on internal forces – if it is forced and expedited, it will be utter chaos, like India & Pakistan 1947 (a million dead). Notwithstandnig the question of who are we to decide anything about whether Iraq should be one country or three?

But it’s funny that it’s now so clear that Dems are the party of ideas, because EVEN THE BAD IDEAS were proposed by Dems first (Joe Biden in this case).

  • Bush? Non-finisher.

    Regarding pre-war intelligence. We had excellent pre-war intelligence. The UN Weapons Inspectors told us there were no WMDs. We knew that then. They were saying that the whole time Bush was gearing up for war and forcing the inspectors to leave.

    As for partitioning, it’s already happening. The mass migrations of people into safer areas and the forced eviction of people from certain areas by the 3 ethinic/religious groups is already taking place.

  • I have to disagree with comment 1 a bit. I think that partitioning would best be brokered. Since all things are not equal, particularly the monetary life’s blood of oil. The ‘natural’ path to equalizing internal pressures along boundaries would be a very long and bloody civil war.

    Even speaking as someone who as aggressively disagreed with the war since the original run up, I think we have a collective responsibility for the actions of our government and a moral duty to the people of Iraq.

    Putting enough boots on the ground for stability is now impossible, but we should be prepared to spend massive amounts of money (since the first $20B on rebuilding turned out to be a GOP slush fund) and extend huge concessions to facilitate a brokered solution that is well short of letting the current civil war run it’s course.

    -jjf

  • Well Snow has one part right, there is a lot of hooey in the press room. On November 8th the Dems better jump on Bush (and pull the Kay Baiuley Hutchinsons into the fray). Form a bi-partisan comittee to formulate a plan to get out of Iraq then keep talking about it until it cannot be ignored any longer. It’s a win-win. Dems get to start their majority with a bi-partisan stroke and we can stop losing dozens of slodiers per week in Iraq.

    These guys are so detached from reality it has almost ceased to be amusing.

  • On November 8th the Bush talking point(s) will begin to change. Until then, it’s “stay the course.” Ain’t democracy grand?

  • From what Woodward says in his book, the President’s already down to just Barney.

    Come February 21, he and Dead-eye need to be arrested for treason, led out in manacles, and sent to Gitmo. Forever. If there are two “enemy combatants” of the American people, they’re them. And we have the power to step around the Constitution, declare them such, and get rid of them. Hoist on their own petards. Then we void that law, but since the Constitution says we can’t pass ex post facto laws, they’re stuck there. Forever. Rover-boy too.

  • This isn’t the only area in which Republicans are feuding. I hate to say “I told you so” — well, maybe I don’t but after watching Beltran take that last Wainright curveball, it feels even better than usual. I’ve been saying for months that a defeat in the upcoming elections would cause a total meltdown in the ‘Republican coalition,’ with all the groups blaming each other.

    It’s already happening.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/20/us/politics/20conserve.html?ex=1318996800&en=8b945eddce6f6cc6&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

    A couple of quotes:
    “Tax-cutters are calling evangelicals bullies. Christian conservatives say Republicans in Congress have let them down. Hawks say President Bush is bungling the war in Iraq. And many conservatives blame Representative Mark Foley’s sexual messages to teenage pages.”

    —–

    “In an interview this week, Mr. Armey said catering to Dr. Dobson and his allies had led the party to abandon budget-cutting. And he said Christian conservatives could cost Republicans seats around the country, especially in Ohio.

    “The Republicans are talking about things like gay marriage and so forth, and the Democrats are talking about the things people care about, like how do I pay my bills?” he said. ”

    —-

    “Christian conservatives began complaining last year that the Republicans had put proposed Social Security changes and tax changes ahead of issues like abortion and same-sex marriage, risking the support of social-issue voters.”

    —–

    “Many blame neoconservatives who argued most vocally for the invasion of Iraq. “The principal sin of the neoconservatives is overbearing arrogance,” Mr. Keene said. Neoconservatives, in turn, blamed Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld’s insistence on holding down troop levels for the fouling up of the war

    “There is a bit of a battle between people who say, Hey, your tax cuts wrecked our war and people who say, Hey, your war wrecked our tax cuts,” said David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter who was among the war’s proponents.”

    —-

    Once each of these groups tries to grab control of the party to MAKE SURE their particular point of view is represented by the next Presidential candidate, we’ll see the beginnings of the Goldwater-style debacle. We’ll have a ‘choice not an echo’ and since none of these groups’ positions can claim majority support — without the help of the Democrats nominating a Hilary — *ka-boom*

  • Well, there”s a good reason all the ideas about what to do in Iraq are “hooey” and “non-starters,” and that’s because Snow’s boss didn’t think the situation through before he went in.

    When one jumps out of a 10 story window without a plan, there isn’t much you can do on the way down to improve the outcome.

  • Meanwhile, in the news… CNN reports that the southern city of Amara — which had been turned over the Iraqi forces — just fell to the al-Sadr militia. Freedom must be on the march, again.

  • I’d like to go one step further on Tom’s idea about putting Shrub and Darth Cheney in chains.

    If I had the power of Rod Serling or the Mikkado, I would like to take all the talking loud mouth supporters (Rush, Hannity, Coulter etc) all the keyboard commandos (Goldberg, Boot, Ledeen, Frum…), the academics and policy wanks (Wolfiwitz, Perl, etc) and the war profiteers (like the senior folks at Bectel, Haliburton, the maker of defective bulletproof vests who threw a $10 MILLION Bat Mitzvah for his little brat, etc) and even the entertainers (Joel Silver, Toby Keith etc) and send them to Iraq to let them experience the rather “tender” “mercies” of Iraqi justice.

    It’s not just the top guys, but all the hangers and shadowy figures that need to be punished. This is a multiheaded hydra that needs to be stomped on.

  • #3 -Fitz

    Of course we have a moral obligation to provide monetary support for the mess that Bush made. But that has nothing to do with the U.S alone dictating what happens politically in Iraq. You’re right, Snow shouldn’t say it’s a “non-starter”, but at the same time we shouldn’t presume that WE know what’s best (especially with our Decider’s track record upto this point).

    Yes, BROKERED partition should be on the table, but “listening to other countries in the area” is a pre-requisite for even beginning such a discussion.

  • Why Democrats have ever accepted the argument that being “divided” on Iraq was a bad thing I’ll never get.

    That’s how democracy works, especially when the current policy is so clearly a total failure and can’t be made a sucess without…

    … wait for it …

    … such an expenditure of funds and troops that it would be a new policy.

    Gah! The Republican’ts are jerks and the Bushites are swine.

  • “Hasn’t Laura moved out, into the Mayflower?” – Ed Stephan

    Considering Laura’s history, the Secret Service should be sure to take away her car keys and not let her drive on the White House driveways 😉

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