Stark assaulted by Allen supporters — Day Two

Considering the coverage and responses of the [tag]Mike Stark[/tag]/[tag]George Allen[/tag] controversy so far, I’m reminded a bit of a movie I liked when I was a kid.

Axel Foley went into Victor Maitland’s office, and asked a few impertinent questions. Maitland’s thugs grabbed Foley, dragged him into the building’s lobby, and literally threw him through a plate-glass door. The police arrive and, naturally, arrest Foley. Asked what the charges are, the officers tell him, “Disturbing the peace.” To which Foley responded, “Disturbing the peace? I got thrown out of a window! What’s the charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, jaywalking?”

Shortly thereafter, Sgt. Taggart tells Foley, “We have six witnesses who said you came in, started tearing up the place and then jumped through the window.”

Had reporters in Virginia covered the fictional incident, I suspect they would describe Foley as a “protestor” who “heckled” Maitland, and who deserved to be assaulted because he was causing a “ruckus.”

All things being equal, I think the WaPo captured the Stark story fairly well.

A Democratic activist who verbally confronted U.S. Sen. George Allen at a campaign rally in Charlottesville yesterday was shoved, put into a headlock and thrown against a window by three men wearing Allen stickers, according to a widely disseminated video of the incident.

W. Michael Stark, who identified himself in an e-mail after the incident as a University of Virginia law student, yelled a question at Allen (R) about whether he had ever spit on his first wife, an unsubstantiated charge that has been circulating on liberal blogs on the Internet. Allen supporters hauled him away from the senator as television cameras rolled.

“I demand that Senator Allen fire the staffers who beat up a constituent attempting to use his constitutional right to petition his government,” Stark wrote in an e-mail.

Following up on developments from yesterday, Stark has already reported the incident the Charlottesville police and told officials he wants press assault charges against the men. Charlottesville Police Lt. Gary Pleasants said police are investigating and trying to determine the names of the Allen staffers involved.

As for the response from the Allen campaign, it’s hard to believe — because it isn’t true.

Allen aides accused Democrats and the Webb campaign of orchestrating the event as a way of getting news organizations to write about the Internet rumor. “These are the typical Jim Webb tactics,” said spokesman Dan Allen, no relation to the senator. “It was disappointing to see, and this certainly has no place in Virginia politics.” […]

Dan Allen said Stark pushed him as Stark tried to approach the senator and Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.), who was campaigning with Allen. “He did it in a very menacing way,” Dan Allen said.

Look, if you’re going to make up a fictional story about an altercation, do so when there aren’t three different videos of the incident. If there were no cameras, it’s a he-said, she-said. With multiple videos, none of which show Stark pushing anyone, or even raising his hands above his waist, the Allen campaign just makes a bad situation worse.

Nevertheless, too many reporters are falling for this nonsense. An NBC affiliate in Washington did a piece telling viewers that Stark “shoved” an Allen staffer before being “escorted out” of the room. Wow.

It’s amazing to me how easy it would have been for Allen and his team to have handled this differently. Stark asked a unkind question, and the senator could have very easily ignored him or said, “I won’t dignify that with a response.” Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Assaulting a law student, a law-abiding constituent, and a Marine veteran was, as far as the Allen gang was concerned, the preferable way to go.

Stark had a lengthy letter published by the Richmond Times Dispatch today; it’s quite good and offers a more detailed, personal perspective.

As for my single favorite far-right response to the incident, the award goes to Riehld World View, a prominent right-wing blog, who asked yesterday, “Kossack Attempts To Assault Allen?”

I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried.

Given that Allen has always been a wannabe-thug, it’s unsurprising that he hired thugs as aides – I mean, we don’t call them ReThugs for nothing, right?

This reminds me of the video over at TPM of the guy trying to talk to Marilyn Musgrave in Colorado and getting shoved around by a couple of local Republicans. It’s been their way for a long time, since they’re all permanently-pre-adolescent, always-were/always-will be playground bullies.

  • I just saw a clip of this on CNN (9:10 EST), and the redhead female anchor (not Kyra Philips, but another) said something to the effect of, “well, the man *did* have a backpack on,” with the implication that the Allen staffers might have thought he was a terrorist. Unreal.

  • I’m a liberal Democrat. On the other hand Mike Stark went to the compaign event to try to goad Senator Allen and force some kind of confrontation. You got what he was looking for. They should have thrown him through the window.

  • Sadly our collective wisdom has been tainted in recent years with delusional authoritarians. On occasion I wonder if future history students will read that the early 20th century was a time when the ideals of the late 18th century were put to rest, and the hoi polloi returned to being subjects instead of citizens. With the current one-party ideology of the Republicans, I think this could be achieveable. -Kevo

  • “Stark shoved an Allen staffer”?

    “Kerry questions our soldiers’ intellect”?

    it’s futile…. I’m so tired…. just want to lay down and die…..

  • An exerpt from Mr. Stark’s letter to the Richmond Times Dispatch:

    ***Maybe we need to bring the troops home so that they can fight for freedom at George Allen’s campaign events.***

    Y’know—I wholeheartedly agree with that comment. The bullies in the GOP—and their little goose-steppers—might actually think twice about their tactic of violent intimidation, if they suddenly found themselves staring into the business-end of a rifle that had a REAL UNITED STATES SOLDIER attached to the other end….

  • First reaction: Finally, people are taking video cameras when they do these things. The cloud of lies dispersed under the harsh light of truth (or something).

    Second reaction: This whole incident bothers me, a lot. Things are getting ugly. Too many Republicans actually think that losses in this election will be not a repudiation of them, but some kind of disaster for the country. They see the tide going against them, so they become angry, violent. Politics is overtaken by thugs. Shades of 1920s Berlin.

    What will happen if/when they actually do lose? I’m starting to wonder if we’re due for an act of domestic terrorism in this country. All it takes is a handful of unstable people who take the rhetoric seriously. Think Tim McVeigh, Yigal Amir. Think about whoever sent the anthrax, which we now know was almost certainly of domestic origin. Is there anyone else out there who finds the current atmosphere scary?

  • Very Bad Old Joke.
    White Northern women is driving through the old south.
    She loses control of her car and hits two black men.
    One gets knocked 50 feet down the road, the 2nd man crashes through the car window and lands in the back seat.
    The police arrive and the woman starts apologizing and taking full responsibility for the accident.
    The sheriff in charge says” Now now little lady you just take it easy,
    we got one of these boys for leaving the scene of the crime and the other boy in the back seat of your car for breaking and entering.”

  • I’m a liberal Democrat. On the other hand Mike Stark went to the compaign event to try to goad Senator Allen and force some kind of confrontation. You got what he was looking for. They should have thrown him through the window.

    What? That doesn’t even make sense. “I’m a liberal Democrat. On the other hand, Mike Stark, and by extension the rest of you lefties, deserve to be thrown through a pane glass window for questioning George Felix Allen Jr.”

    Try again, dumbshit.

  • “You got what he was looking for. They should have thrown him through the window. ”

    If Stark had tried to physically assault Allen I would agree that he should have been restrained, but not thrown through a window. That’s getting excessive.

    Asking a question that may be percieved as being “confrontational” is not justification for a violent response, especially from the staff of a sitting US Senator.

  • ***I’m a liberal Democrat. On the other hand Mike Stark went to the compaign event to try to goad Senator Allen and force some kind of confrontation.***
    —————————————–Alan, the “questionable” liberal

    No. Mike went to the event to ask why matters of public record—matters that should be open for all to see, as noted under Virginia Law—are “mysteriously sealed, and no longer open for review.” More specifically, he asked an elected public servant to comment on a rumor.

    If you want to “role-play” being a liberal Democrat, then at least stop talking like one of Felix’s jack-booted thugs.

    Doofus….

  • Well, I’m a conservative Republican fascist, and I think that the Allen people deserved to be thrown through the window for ever having joined the GOP. Additionally, I think that Allen should have been waterboarded until he accurately answered all of Stark’s questions. And finally, I think that people who pose as a “liberal Democrat” and then proceed to issue GOP talking points while advocating violence against non-violent liberals are a fairly silly lot and deserve to be mocked quite severely. But that’s just me as a conservative Republican fascist talking.

  • Admit it, everyone of us has dreamed of doing what Stark did, but few of us have had the balls to walk into the lion’s den.

    Those who defend our freedoms sometimes have to pursue truth from those who hide it in unpleasant situations.

    Glen Greenwald had an excellent post recently about the race between Allen and Webb. Here is an excerpt pertaining to Allen:
    “In a minimally rational political culture, political figures like George Allen, Marty Peretz, Mark Steyn, and most of the somber pro-war Beltway pundits would be hounded out of public life and would suffer a total loss of credibility, at least for a good long time if not permanently. They were so profoundly and patently wrong about the most important political issue of the decade and, much worse, demonized those who were right. Worse still, most of them continued to defend the war long after its failures were manifest and, through today, remain so unrepentantly wrong (George Allen, April 2006: “‘You have to stay the course.’ Defeating the ‘vile terrorists’ in Iraq is ‘going to take perseverance and resolve'”).

    By contrast, in a rational or honorable world, those who knowingly subjected themselves to an onslaught of vicious attacks from all corners for having been so right, such as Jim Webb — and Howard Dean — would be heralded as the serious and wise leaders whose judgment can be trusted. In such a world, there wouldn’t be a close race between George Allen and Jim Webb. There wouldn’t be a race at all, because George Allen wouldn’t have the audacity and shamelessness to seek re-election.”
    source: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/

  • In reponse to the personal attacks on me (very classy of you guys, by the way), if Mike Stark wanted to ask George Allen about his prior arrests, his divorce or his sealed records, there are ways to ask. Asking “why did you spit on your wife”, when he has never admitted to spitting on his wife, is not one of them. That question was intended to force a confrontation, and that’s what he got. I don’t have any sympathy for him.

  • We need to get the names of the thugs who attacked Stark. Anyone know of them yet? Were they part of Allen’s staff or hired security for the event?

  • That question was intended to force a confrontation, and that’s what he got. I don’t have any sympathy for him.

    An acceptable response to a verbal confrontation is to have staffers tackle the questioner and, in your opinion, to throw him through a window?

    Wait, I’m being to harsh. I don’t know that Allen ordered his staff to tackle the man. How bout this: An acceptable response to a verbal confrontation between a man and someone you work for is, in your opinion, to tackle the man and throw him through a window?

    I’d like to know how your theory of acceptable action expands into other situations. What’s the limit of rhetoric that allows me to throw someone through a window? If someone were to say that Democrats want the terrorists to win, is that too non-specific for me to throw them through a window? Does it have to be a personal question? Are my limits different because I am not a public person who represents constituents? Do the rules differ based on my income? Number of thugs I employ?

  • I’m a liberal Democrat. On the other hand Mike Stark went to the compaign event to try to goad Senator Allen and force some kind of confrontation. You got what he was looking for. They should have thrown him through the window. — Alan, @4

    And I’m The Ruling Sultana of all Middle East. I think we could use you in Baghdad. Alan, call me, and we’ll discuss the terms of your employment (wink).

  • ***Asking “why did you spit on your wife”, when he has never admitted to spitting on his wife***
    ————————————————–some questionable person

    Has he bothered to deny it? Asking a question does not warrant “being thrown through a window.” The video replays that are available online clearly show Stark questioning “a staffer” in the lobby, after being bum-rushed out of the conference room—not Allen—immediately prior to being thrown into the window—by yet another “staffer.”

    However, if violence should somehow be deemed “an honorable form of answering a question,” then perhaps it should also be condoned as a “just-as-honorable form of inquiry”—yes?

  • Is there anyone else out there who finds the current atmosphere scary?

    Absolutely. These people have as much faith in their leaders as they do in their God (more, I’d say). No matter how much their leaders lie, no matter how many mistakes their leaders make, the extreme right is committed unto death to an idealogy of bitterness, intolerance and rage. They hate us and everything we hold dear and the playground bullies who now rule us are not going to “just go away”.

  • I hate to say it, but this guy Stark was a gift to the Allen campaign. Webb almost had him pinned at the start of the week and this incident has provided an extremely welcome (for Allen) distraction that may very well allow him to slither free.

  • I hate to say it, but this guy Stark was a gift to the Allen campaign. Webb almost had him pinned at the start of the week and this incident has provided an extremely welcome (for Allen) distraction that may very well allow him to slither free. — CalD

    How so, CalD?

    The national “conversation” has moved from “Allen has nothing good to say about himself nd his record , so will attack Webb’s books”, to “Allen has nothing good to say of himself and his record, so will attack, bodily, anyone he suspects of allegiance to Webb”.

    The first line of attack has boomeranged nicely, despite the help he got from some “prominents” like Lynne Chenney, and despite the fact that it took 48hrs or more for most people to get their facts straight.

    I don’t see how 3 guys ganging up on one (albeit wearing a *backpack*. Gasp!), mopping the floor with his face and banging his head against a window is going to earn any bravery kudos for the A-Team (as Allen’s campaign likes to be called), when the tape shows him to be totally non-threatening. And given that he *is* an ex-Marine — a double-pronged devil’s fork to overcome spin-wise (a) he didn’t defend himself, when he could have mopped the floor with them and b) they’ve attacked our troops, bodily. Tsk. Tsk. Almost as bad as Kerry)

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