Richard Cohen: Post-9/11 violence ‘could be therapeutic’

Criticizing Richard Cohen columns has become something of a parlor game, and most of the time, I don’t partake — because I’ve found it easier just to skip most of Cohen’s pieces. But I noticed Hilzoy’s take of Cohen’s latest piece and I have to say, she’s quite right; this new column is “pretty extraordinary.”

Cohen starts by talking about his perspective on Vietnam during the war.

There is the “I” who originally thought the Vietnam War was morally correct, that the communists were awful people and that the loss of South Vietnam (the North was already gone) would result in a debacle for its people. That’s, in fact, what happened. It was only later, when I myself was in the Army, that I deemed the war not worth killing or dying for. By then I — the second “I” — no longer felt it was winnable, and I did not want to lose my life so that somehow defeat could be managed more elegantly.

OK, so Cohen thought Vietnam was worth fighting, right up until he thought he was going to fight it. Cohen similarly found merit in the sales pitch for the war in Iraq, right up until the arguments started falling apart.

Things are precisely the same with Iraq, and here, too, I — No. 3 — originally had no moral qualms about the war. Saddam Hussein was a beast who had twice invaded his neighbors, had killed his own people with abandon and posed a threat — and not just a theoretical one — to Israel. If anything, I was encouraged in my belief by the offensive opposition to the war — silly arguments about oil or empire or, at bottom, the ineradicable and perpetual rottenness of America.

On the contrary, I thought. We are a good country, attempting to do a good thing. In a post-Sept. 11 world, I thought the prudent use of violence could be therapeutic.

This strikes me as misguided for several reasons.

First, basing support for the war by one’s annoyance with the war’s critics is unusually foolish. Indeed, in this case, the “offensive opposition to the war” turned out to be right.

Second, arguing that oil concerns influenced the war is no longer “silly.” It’s safe to say it officially stopped being silly two weeks ago when the president told Rush Limbaugh that U.S. had to maintain a presence in Iraq in order to help “control oil resources.”

And third, I’ve seen a variety of justifications for waging war, but invading a weaker country, in response to an attack that the country had nothing to do with, because it might prove to be “therapeutic,” is perhaps one of the more ridiculous ideas I’ve heard in a very long time.

Now, it’s worth noting, of course, that Cohen isn’t trying to justify his ongoing support for the war. On the contrary, he’s given up hope, seems disgusted by the White House, and lost any remaining patience. Good.

Cohen is, however, apparently trying to explain why he fell for this con in the first place, and he wants readers to understand that a) Bush’s critics were bothersome; and b) invading and blowing up a country a year and a half after 9/11 was likely to make all of us feel better.

If my judgment were that bad, I probably wouldn’t admit it in print.

So Cohen thought (so he now claims) that invading Iraq would “cure” the problem of the violent, genocidal and warmongering Saddam Hussein and that all the arguments against this pending war were so shrill and absurd that he was only more sure he was right.

I note just in passing that in his trifecta of Crimes of Saddam he follows “Two Wars Against His Neighbors” and “Genocide Against His Own Peoples” with “Posed a Threat — and Not Just a Theoretical One — to Israel”.

So that’s it. We kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and destroy their country because “Saddam Posed A Threat to Israel”.

Frankly I’m happier about fighting for the damned oil.

  • I guess Afghanistan wasn’t supplying the RDA of blood.

    because it might prove to be “therapeutic,” is perhaps one of the more ridiculous ideas I’ve heard in a very long time.

    You’re being very charitable to call it ridiculous. Let’s scale this down a bit to demonstrate why words like bestial are more appropriate:

    On Monday I get mugged.
    On Wednesday I catch and beat the crap out of two of the guys responsible. I feel good, but some of the guys are still out there so I don’t feel great.
    On Friday, I give up chasing the orginal muggers and to make myself feel better I beat the living daylights out of a teenager who had nothing to do with it and for good measure I beat up some of his family members too.

    Am I being ridiculous, or psychotic?

  • Have we yet to see a single rightie who’s now against the war come out and say (or type), “I was an idiot who fell for the Bush justification”?

    Because, in the end, that’s all that happened — these people, blinded by their fealty to a guy who gives village idiots a bad name, simply bought the whole thing hook, line and sinker. Not because of logic and/or reasoning, but because they shared the same ideology of the guy who started it.

    After all, Clinton got shredded for trying to stop genocide in Kosovo when he had real live evidence that it was happening. Iraq, on the other hand, hadn’t gone after the Kurds in more than a decade (and had done so with weapons Regean and Co. gave him), and we all know how that WMD claim turned out …

  • Cohen has been struggling to reconcile his buying in to Dubya’s elective war for a long, long time, but he never quite gets there. His original support was transparently irrational, and apparently remains so.

    What bothers me most is that he attempts to rewrite history with comments like the “offensive opposition to the war.” What I remember was an offensive propaganda effort in support of the war and equally offensive demonization of anyone who opposed it.

    What, dear Richard, could possibly have been offensivve about claiming that invading Iraq had nothing to do with the GWOT and infact distracted us from it? What could have been offensive about concerns that removing the iron hand of a dictator would unleash the underlying ethnic and religious tensions that had been stifled, but not forgotten?

  • and posed a threat — and not just a theoretical one — to Israel.

    Isn’t a threat by its nature hypothetical? And if Saddam didn’t do anything to Israel. wasn’t the threat hypothetical. Claiming something wasn’t hypothetical is a phoney trick to make it seem substantial. And it’s not like Israel didn’t have plenty of other threats around.

    These a-holes need to go away for 30 years until people are ready to buy their brand of BS again.

  • “In a post-Sept. 11 world, I thought the prudent use of violence could be therapeutic.”

    So if Colorado beats Nebraska this Friday, I can shoot my neighbor’s dog? Or my neighbor?

  • Since his bjs, Cohen has had a time reconciling himself- I guess it is odd that he would admit he screwed up so badly- I do think think supporting a war right until your life is endangered is the act of a coward – sometimes (rarely) he writes well but has no credibility left- I don’t know why he even bothers- truth is, no one listens to him except as a patient visiting a therapist.
    RC-“Doctor, I think we should go to war- it will make me feel better”-
    MD- “Why will it make you feel better?”
    RC- “Well my religion tells me how to deal with 9/11 better than other people, and nothing feels better than killing Arabs that had nothing to do with 9/11”
    MD- “Take two of this, and if they don’t work, we will have to commit you as your psychopathic transferrance can lead to the death of untold thousands.”

  • So if Colorado beats Nebraska this Friday, I can shoot my neighbor’s dog? Or my neighbor?
    –2Manchu

    No, because that would make you an Oakland Raiders’ fan.

    🙂

  • Hang on a minute. I’ve wracked my brain but this is the very first time I can remember hearing anyone….anywhere….who said that invading Iraq was justifiable because Saddam posed a threat to *Israel*(!).

    Is this the meme that has been missing in the whole sorry saga? Just in the last day or two we heard about an alleged Israeli agent inside Iran and now this little tidbit.

    Makes the hair on the back of my head stand up, let me tell you.

  • He wants people, if they have to oppose the war, to still feel as bad about liberals as they can while doing it– Otherwise why say it.

    CB wrote:

    If my judgment were that bad, I probably wouldn’t admit it in print.

    Opposition to the Iraq war is a new story, it seems, so naturally some assholes are going to try to get on top of it.

  • I thought the prudent use of violence could be therapeutic. — R. Cohen

    And so it might have been, dahlink, had you bashed your head against a wall till you dropped dead. It’s NOT UP TO YOU, SOB, to make decisions about lives of others.

    “Is this the meme that has been missing in the whole sorry saga? Just in the last day or two we heard about an alleged Israeli agent inside Iran and now this little tidbit. — Curmudgeon, @10

    It hasn’t been “missing”; it’s just been running, quietly, under the surface. Iraq, now Iran (looming)…

    It’s precisely what makes me so miserable to be a half-Polish (Polish troops are in Iraq; Poland must have invested — heavily — in Vaseline), half-Jewish, citizen of US. Whichever way I turn, there’s no excuse, no redemption for “who I am”…

  • I think a lot of people had war fever motivated by 9/11 revenge. But instead of characterizing it as justifiable by using a word like “therapeutic” he should characterize it for what it is–the worst impulses in human nature.

  • Does this jackass Cohen ever learn?

    He got his head handed to him by the “notorious” blogosphere after sniffing that Stephen Colbert’s famous WHCD speech was not funny or fun and then sniffed a lot more when he complained about the anger that got sent in his direction.

    “It was only later, when I myself was in the Army, that I deemed the war not worth killing or dying for. By then I — the second “I” — no longer felt it was winnable, and I did not want to lose my life so that somehow defeat could be managed more elegantly.”

    Gee, Dick ya think? He’s just another Fortunate Son. Why doesn’t Richard just shut the hell up? Seriously. Not because I’m trying to violate Richard’s 1st Ammendment rights, but rather to prevent Richard from violating his 5th Ammendment ones.

  • Despite all of the other excuses, I’m pretty sure that the ‘theoretical’ threat to Israel was the real reason we invaded Iraq. It’s a textbook example of Israeli ‘self-defense’.

  • This is not the first time that Cohen has heaped blame for his support for the invasion of Iraq – or pehaps his own lack of skepticism about the validity of the reasons given to support the necessity of that invasion – on those who opposed the invasion from day one. He wrote a column a long while back asserting that he was so busy deconstructing the arguments of those opposed to the war (again either saying or implying that these were wild-eyed, silly assed arguments) in the run up to the war that he was unable to turn his powers of analysis on the rhetoric of Bush and fiends (that spelling is intentional). I do not remember his exact words; I do not remember the date the column ran. I do remember that it was the last column by Richard Cohen that I read without being directed to him by a blogger (usually pointing out yet another example of why criticizing Cohen’s columns is a parlor game). The man gets paid to share the insipid results of his navel-gazing.

  • And, in acknowledgement of the many fine comments that I did not read before making my first post, I think Cohen is just an effing coward – plain and simple.

  • Great comments above, one and all. Cohen is a coward and an idiot. But at least he blurted out a truth which does not get said enough. This war was mostly for Israel, not us.

    Right before the war, James Moran (D-VA) got his head lopped off politically for saying that the Likudniks were pushing for war with Iraq. The Lobby went into overdrive to cast him as an anti-semite, even as his daughter prepared to marry a Jewish man and convert to Judaism, along with her 9-year-old son.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7832-2003Mar10?language=printer

    The stories about Abu Ghraib, with Israeli “contractors” teaching US troops how to torture Arabs the way Israel does, and helping set up assasination teams in Iraq, show the bloody hands of the enemy we have embraced as an ally.
    http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2477

    Israel was threatened by Iraq? Israel is the one with WMDs of every variety, the forces to deliver them, and the nuclear armed subs to deter any nation from seriously threatening them, unless they are suicidal.

    Philip Zelikow said the following at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002:
    ”Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 — it’s the threat against Israel,”….

    …”And this is the threat that dare not speak its name… the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell…”
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0329-11.htm

    Someday the US will wake up from this stupor, and that day will not come soon enough.

  • When Richard Cohen gets something right, he refuses to recognize the obvious conclusion,

    “The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake. It is an honest mistake, a well-intentioned mistake, a mistake for which no one is culpable, but the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/17/AR2006071701154_pf.html

  • The “therapeutic” line is puzzling, at best, but this is what angers me most:

    > I was encouraged in my belief by the offensive opposition to the war — silly arguments about oil or empire or, at bottom, the ineradicable and perpetual rottenness of America.

    I suppose he didn’t like their clothes or funny haircuts, either, but just because the anarcho-hippie mushheads were against the war doesn’t mean the war’s many, many informed, experienced, and reasoned opponents were “offensive” or “silly,” or that there were no arguments more coherent than a 19-year-old’s poetry-reading regurgitation of Chomsky and Zinn.

    I’m caught somewhere between infuriated and flabbergasted that this supposedly professional columnist has the gall to smile and shrug at the lazy and haphazard way he arrives at his opinions on crucial issues. I was disgusted at the time by the crude, thoughtless way President Bush dismissed the hundreds of thousands of sincere protesters who gathered worldwide to oppose his invasion. I am disgusted by Richard Cohen now.

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