Actually, Bush can ‘snap his fingers’ and get Arabic speakers

The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad employs 1,000 people, of which 33 speak Arabic. And only six of them speak Arabic fluently. Throughout the intelligence community, the pressure to quickly translate intercepted Arabic messages is intense, but agencies and the military lack qualified and well-trained linguists.

With this in mind, one of the more obvious recommendations from the Iraq Study Group yesterday was the suggestion that the Bush administration “accord the highest possible priority” to language training. To which officials everywhere responded with a collective, “Duh.”

The White House, however, had its own tack. Tony Snow, unwilling to concede that the ISG was even remotely critical of the administration, had an interesting response to the issue.

Q: [The ISG report] says the U.S. intelligence community “still does not understand very well either the insurgency in Iraq or the role of militias.”

MR. SNOW: That is part of a section that talks about the fact that there — it recommends more Arabic speakers. It suggests the need for better and more robust intelligence. And that’s something that —

Q: So that’s fairly critical of the administration.

MR. SNOW: Well, I don’t know — Bret, as you know, as a former Pentagon correspondent, the Pentagon has been trying to address these. But you don’t snap your fingers and have the Arabic speakers you need overnight.

Actually, the Bush gang is in luck. If they’re willing to concede that they need Arabic linguists to effectively combat terrorism, and they’re anxious to have Arabic speakers “overnight” to meet a pressing national security need, the president can, almost literally, snap his fingers and make it happen.

In fact, as it turns out, there are several dozen well-trained, patriotic linguists, very proficient in Arabic, who are anxious to serve their country and help prevent terrorist attacks. They just happen to be the same linguists the U.S. government got rid of because they’re gay.

[T]he Pentagon continues to dismiss trained linguists — people whose skills are desperately needed in Iraq and elsewhere around the world — for being gay. In fact, newly obtained data from the Department of Defense reveals that these firings were far more widespread than previously known. Between 1998 and 2004, the military discharged 20 Arabic and six Farsi language speakers under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. The new data are not broken down by year, but additional figures from other reports suggest that about half the Arabic discharges came after September 11.

And we know, of course, that number has gone up at least a little since 2004.

The U.S. government spent several years, and a great deal of money, to train these American volunteers, all of whom were ready, willing, and able to serve their country in a time of war. It was exactly what the nation needed — right up until these same people were fired for being gay. If Bush wants them back, providing an invaluable service, all he has to do is snap his fingers, sign an executive order, and have the Arabic speakers we need overnight.

In fact, I’m reminded of the example we learned of in July when Bleu Copas, a decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was thrown out of the military under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. Copas, who joined the Army after the 9/11 attacks out of a sense of duty, was responsible for helping translate intercepted messages from possible terrorists, but he was thrown out anyway.

The Daily Show’s Jason Jones sat down with Paul Cameron, one of the nation’s leading anti-gay activists, said, “I think the country, on the aggregate, is safer without Bleu in the military.” Asked why, Cameron explained, “Guys don’t want to think about other guys, other fellas, ogling them in the shower or whatever.”

Jones responded, “I know I’d rather die in a terrorist attack than suffer through an uncomfortable shower with a gay.” Cameron grudgingly responded, “Yes.”

Now Bush has a chance to say whether he agrees with this. I’m not optimistic.

I volunteered and was slated to go into the Navy under the deferred enlistment option when I was transitioning from high school to college. They had me down for the nuclear sub program.

I came out during that transition period and was denied the opportunity to serve my country (in my mind, as a partial repayment for everything it has given me).

I often wonder what my life would be like now if I had been allowed to serve with honesty and dignity.

  • But you don’t snap your fingers and have the Arabic speakers you need overnight four or five years later.

    Of course, no one could have foreseen that responding to 9/11 and invading Iraq would mean we’d need Arabic speakers.

  • Bush might have to give them two snaps up to get them back. This would never have happened with Gore as President. But I guess we wouldn’t even be mucking around in Iraq if the election hadn’t been stolen in 2000. That was a mutation in our processes that evolved into something horribly wrong.

    I saw that 10 more GIs died while Bush is fiddling around.

  • Writing the last message made me realize more what a horror Vietnam was. Each of these reports of casualities is so gut-wrenching, it’s hard to imagine the scale of loss in Vietnam. 50,000 GIs dead. 200,000 wounded.

    For some wingnuts this means that this war is minor because of fewer deaths, but it has the opposite effect on me. This war is the definition of horrible. Vietnam was indescribable.

  • Bush has plenty of English-speakers and it’s Americans he’s doing most of the spying on, so what’s the problem? he asks. The only Arabic the military needs to speak is “BOOM!”

  • It’s been five years since 9/11. Enough time to train enough people to speak Arabic.

  • If we have enough translators in place, then maybe we would have better information and that might undermine the President’s reasons for being in this war. He really does prefer to stay firmly in ignorance.

  • 1000 people in the Embassy and only 33 speak Arabic? I’d be willing to bet that most of those 1000 folks were Bushbots selected for their political reliability.

    I’ve seen the Jason Jones interview (laughed my ass off) and noticed that Paul has a really really really unhealthy obession with the male body and what you can do to it sexually. It set off my Haggart detector.

  • This is yet another glaring example of the warmongers’ rhetoric standing in direct conflict with their actions. If, as they say, we are in a struggle for the survival of the USA, why not also call for the draft? Or maybe some taxes to pay for it now instead of putting it all (plus interest) on our children’s backs?

    Because this is about politics, plain and simple. Politics keeps Bush from letting gays be in the military, and politics keeps Bush for asking for ANY form of sacrifice whatsoever, much less call for a draft.

    Politics is what this war has always been about. The Republicans have used it like a bludgeon for the last three cycles. Israeli hard-liners and retarded neocons are the only ones who wanted this war for strategic reasons.

    I hope the Dems don’t forget this basic point. This war was designed to take out the Dems, not Saddam Hussein.

  • If we’re lucky, the world of the future will look back on the period of American history from the Vietnam War to the Gulf War II as… I don’t know what exactly, maybe a repudiation of conventional warfare, maybe the “real” end of imperialism, maybe America’s midlife crisis which will have been followed by a transition to responsible, mature society that improves on Europe’s example… but something like that.

    If we’re unlucky, America will get bored with good Democratic leadership by 2012 (or just not see it in the first place), elect Jeb Bush president, invade North Korea and bomb Iran or possibly the reverse, fiddle while all our potential leaders and thinkers move to Canada, and the world of the future will hope Brazil or India becomes the next world leader instead of China.

    Okay, I realize there’s a whooole lot of space between the horns of that dilemma. But when I read about Nixon and the rest of the Vietnam era, it just throws today’s problems into stark relief. I think that both Iraq and Vietnam are part of the same meaningful trend partly because it actually does seem that way, but also partly just because the alternative is horrifying.

    I realize that last paragraph sounds like one of the more feeble apologetics for religious faith, applied to a country. But by most measures, I’m from the so-called America-hating crowd. How strange.

  • Even if Bush did summon the coordination to snap his fingers with out breaking them, will the people who were kicked out under this stupid policy want to return?

    “Hey, I know we treated you like shit but, uh, we screwed up and we’ve got this war thing that’s not going to well and we need your help, so can we let bygones be bygones?”

    I suspect there’d be a lot of quoting of Dick Cheney in response.

    In addition, I’ve heard from various sources that thanks in part to the overheated rhetoric from on-high, speaking any of those languages fluently means one is regarded with deep suspicion by the other people in the organization. Think Russian speakers during the cold war.

    And to go tin foil hatty for a moment, the military does very extensive background checks before it grants or renews security clearance. Given the type of work these people were doing I’d bet my bank account their superiors already knew they were gay. Could DADT have been used as an excuse to get rid of people who shared a trait with the terrorists?

    Wouldn’t surprise me given who is running the show.

    However, I could easily see Bush signing an executive order demanding the translators return or face a prolonged ride on a waterboard.

  • The Daily Show’s Jason Jones sat down with Paul Cameron, one of the nation’s leading anti-gay activists, said, “I think the country, on the aggregate, is safer without Bleu in the military.”

    And without Gannon in the White House press room, of course…

  • Cyrus (Comment #11) said:

    I think that both Iraq and Vietnam are part of the same meaningful trend partly because it actually does seem that way

    Well, Cyrus, if you consider that the same set of assholes who ran the lower levels of Vietnam Policy for Tricky Dick grew up to be the same set of assholes who screwed up with Iran-Contra, the Iran-Iraq War, Gulf War I, and the Global War on Terr’r, then you have a very penetrating insight into recent American history. So, not only does it “actually seem that way,” it actually is that way.

  • What if it were discovered that the facility for post-childhood language acquisition and being gay were controlled by the same gene? What if being gay meant that you could learn a foreign language faster and better than anyone else? Would they *still* keep these folks out of the military? I’m guessing they would.

  • Has anyone confirmed that W knows how to snap his fingers?
    —————————–beep52

    Gadzooks—have you any idea how many puppet strings that would take? Cheney’s not THAT talented !!!

  • Well, Cyrus, if you consider that the same set of assholes who ran the lower levels of Vietnam Policy for Tricky Dick grew up to be the same set of assholes who screwed up with Iran-Contra, the Iran-Iraq War, Gulf War I, and the Global War on Terr’r, then you have a very penetrating insight into recent American history. So, not only does it “actually seem that way,” it actually is that way.

    Comment by Tom Cleaver

    Oh, sure, I know. I read All the President’s Men for the first time a couple months ago (I’m 24, so it’s history for me, even if it is pretty recent), and I kept on being surprised by how many names I recognized. Sorry if I was unclear.

  • The Dobson crowd who pull Bush’s strings would probably have preferred losing WWII to having Alan Turing (a gay man shamefully mistreated after he helped win the war) crack the Nazi Enigma code.

  • “In addition, I’ve heard from various sources that thanks in part to the overheated rhetoric from on-high, speaking any of those languages fluently means one is regarded with deep suspicion by the other people in the organization.”

    True:
    I half-saw a report the other day in which the top-ranked FBI Middle-east agent (language fluency, born in Egypt…)is on desk duty that doesn’t relate to terrorism at all.
    He’s suing to be allowed to do the job that he’s trained/experienced in…

  • Has anyone confirmed that W knows how to snap his fingers? —
    beep52 , @9

    He’s learnin’. But it’s hard work, not like learnin’ ‘rabic, for example, so it’s been takin’ some time.

  • I have a “cyber-friend” I occasionally correspond with on another board. He thinks that most manifestations of religious belief are an expression of some sort of psychosis. Basically, it’s a need for someone/something else to assume authority, and they are all variations of the same thing. Let’s see, there’s “christ-psychosis”, “mohamed psychosis”, “moses psychosis”, et al. ad nauseum.

    I always thought he was a bit of a crack-pot, but fun, none the less. I’m starting to think he’s on to something, though.

  • In regards to Tom Cleaver’s post: I recently had a conversation with a gentleman who had grown up in a millitary base in Germany during the Vietnam era. Apparently there was a whole thriving industry around defense contractors in that era, and his first job out of college was with KBR , but the name was slightly different. His point was that a major shareholder of that company was Ladybird Johnson, who got personally even more wealthy during Vietnam. Apparently Texas busuness people put it to the country then, as they are putting it to us now: same state, different party. Does anyone know if this is true information?

  • “This would never have happened with Gore as President.”

    I don’t know. . . Clinton was by far a gutsier and more capable power player, and he put that darn policy in place. I’m not convinced Gore would be able to stand up to the military. I like a lot of what he says, but he needs to show that he has the gumption to make a real change before I’d be confident in him. . .

  • Has anyone confirmed that W knows how to snap his fingers? Beep 52 @9.

    Computer keyboard, meet soda.

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