Far-right activists experience a ‘pregnant pause’

When John Kerry mentioned in passing during a 2004 presidential debate that Dick Cheney has a lesbian daughter, it was considered scandalous. Lynne Cheney questioned Kerry’s character and said “he is not a good man.”

If Kerry’s an awful person for simply acknowledging the Cheneys’ gay daughter, I’m anxious to know what Dick and Lynne think about some of their friends in the GOP’s religious right base after leading activists responded to their daughter’s pregnancy.

I wasn’t planning on mentioning this story; Mary Cheney is a private citizen with no role in politics. Her personal life is of no interest to me whatsoever. But what is noteworthy is the conservative reaction to the fact that she and her partner of 15 years are expecting.

No Republican in Washington is more beloved by social conservatives than Vice President Dick Cheney, who with his wife, Lynne, has backed and breathed every issue dear to them for six tumultuous years.

News that Cheney’s lesbian daughter, Mary, is pregnant has therefore touched a nerve, as advocates for conservative values struggle to reconcile their loyalty to the Cheneys with their visceral opposition to same-sex relationships — and particularly to raising a child without a father.

Indeed, for many conservative Republican activist, Mary Cheney’s decision to have a baby is practically a personal insult.

Some of these folks really didn’t hold back.

Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America described the pregnancy as “unconscionable.”

“It’s very disappointing that a celebrity couple like this would deliberately bring into the world a child that will never have a father,” said Crouse, a senior fellow at the group’s think tank. “They are encouraging people who don’t have the advantages they have.” […]

Carrie Gordon Earll, a policy analyst for the conservative Christian ministry Focus on the Family, expressed empathy for the Cheney family but depicted the newly announced pregnancy as unwise.

“Just because you can conceive a child outside a one-woman, one-man marriage doesn’t mean it’s a good idea,” said. “Love can’t replace a mother and a father.”

Better yet, Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Media Institute of the Media Research Center, said, “I think it’s tragic that a child has been conceived with the express purpose of denying it a father. Fatherhood is important and always will be, so if Mary and her partner indicate that that is a trivial matter, they’re shortchanging this child from the start.” Knight added, “Mary and Heather can believe what they want, but what they’re seeking is to force others to bless their non-marital relationship as marriage” and to “create a culture that is based on sexual anarchy instead of marriage and family values.”

TownHall’s Kevin McCullough offered this gem: “Knowing from scientific data that children excel best when given the full and natural parental structure of one mother and one father, is it moral to bring a child into such a scenario – purposefully, simply to stroke one’s own desire to have a child – sort of like a new handbag, or pair of shoes?”

Being a Cheney is not enough to shield a person from bigotry, apparently.

It’s also probably worth noting that the expecting parents won’t have it easy in the commonwealth of Virginia.

According to the Washington Post, which broke the story about the pregnancy, the couple lives in Virginia, where voters last month passed an amendment to the state constitution banning gay marriage and civil unions. Poe won’t have many legal rights over the child, says Jennifer Chrisler, Family Pride’s executive director. There apparently aren’t any laws in Virginia specifically laying out the parental rights of same-sex couples, according to Equity Virginia, an advocacy group.

“In the state of Virginia, it’s very difficult for lesbian couples to have children together,” says Chrisler. “Heather Poe will have no legal relationship with her child. She can’t adopt as a second parent. She won’t have her name on the birth certificate.”

What can the couple do to give Poe some legal rights as a parent?

“Move to Maryland,” Chrisler advises.

How very sad.

The sad part is that Mary Cheney will still support the party of the ghouls who would take her child from her if they only could. And grandpa Dick will too.

  • They’re going nuts over at Freeper. Great stuff like Homos are a burden to society … makes me chuckle. In your face Dick!

  • “They are encouraging people who don’t have the advantages they have.” — Janice Crouse

    Ah, so poor people shouldn’t get pregnant? Crouse has her work cut out for her on that one.

  • CB – Mary Cheney is a private citizen with no role in politics

    Mary Cheney has no current role in politics, but she has had a role in politics (from Wikipedia)

    In 2002, she joined the gay-friendly Republican Unity Coalition and said that sexual orientation should be “a non-issue for the Republican Party”, with a goal of “equality for all gay and lesbian Americans.” Some LGBT Americans saw the organization as little more than election year window dressing to appeal to “moderate swing voters”.[citation needed] They point out the fact that the organization soon vanished after the 2004 election, and that Mary resigned from the RUC’s board and in July 2003 became the director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney 2004 Presidential re-election campaign.

  • Funny how the TownHall fellow runs to ‘scientific evidence’ to support his stance, and I also wonder if he sees the hypocrisy (they never do); i.e., see scientific evidence of the futileness of abstinence-only education, global warming.

  • “I think it’s tragic that a child has been conceived with the express purpose of denying it a father.”

    Wha????!!!!

    What about a child conceived for the express purpose of being a friggin moron, huh Robert Knight? The only thing sadder than this guy is the people who read this and still think he is not insane.

  • The news stories say the baby is due in “late spring”. Let’s see, conception in Aug-Sept, they knew about it by Oct-Nov, but of course didn’t let the news out until well after the election. Wouldn’t want to have annoyed the base. Now it doesn’t matter. Sweet.

  • I’ll be eager to see what CB comes up with for The Dhau Report from the rightwing blogs.

    Hey, get a clue Mary, if you weren’t kin, the Cheneys would hate you.

  • So, are these people who are going knotty-pants over the lack of a father suggesting the sprog is the result of parthenogenesis? That’s the only way I know of to get offspring without a father. Or, if they mean that the child needs a male figure in its life, this suggests that when a pregnant woman learns her husband has died she should rush out and get an abortion to avoid rearing a child without a father. Horrors.

    And then there is this screwed up shit: “Love can’t replace a mother and a father.”

    Someone call child protective services on that bitch. Something is a-miss.

    Bigots make no fucking sense what. So. Ever.

    I’m trying not to take comfort in the fact that all of these loud mouths are likely on the NSA’s watch list. Unwarranted phone call and e-mail interception is wrong. Even when it is done to a bunch of fuckwits who need to be done in by rabid hyenas.

  • “It’s very disappointing that a celebrity couple like this would deliberately bring into the world a child that will never have a father,”

    Very strange definition of ‘celebrity’ here. Neither Mary nor her partner have done much more than flit around the edges of Republican politics that I ever heard of. She just happens to have a fairly well-known father.

    So when Chelsea Clinton hooks up with someone, will that make them a ‘celebrity couple’, too?

    Or is this just another instance of some frothing wingnut trying to make the subject of their rant into something more than it really is to make themselves look more important by association?

    Yeah, I thought so, too.

  • I feel so sorry for the gay members of the gay bashing party when the attack dogs are put on them. Breaks my heart. I would have a little more sympathy if she hadn’t worked and been out in front on the campaign. Plus the whole Kerry non-sense. Plus the whole gay marriage non-sense.

    Wouldn’t it be crazy if there was a mix-up at the sperm bank and they had a little brown baby. Talk about heads exploding on contact.

    Christmas 2006 has been a disaster for the base, and a real treat for the rest of us. You could not write better drama:

    – Evangelical leader admits to using meth and gay hookers.
    – VP’s gay daughter pregnant.
    – Bush admits Iraq is a disaster
    – Dems control of Congress
    – Republican caught sending sexual messages to minors while Republican leaders covered it up.
    – Speaker of the House Pelosi

    How much are they expected to take ?

    Thank god they are winning the war on xmas.

  • “Heather Poe will have no legal relationship with her child. She can’t adopt as a second parent. She won’t have her name on the birth certificate.”

    I despise Cheny with every fiber of my being and I doubt that the apple falls too far from the tree with his daughter, but for this woman and all the other similarly situated, it really does make me sad. Why the hell do these people care so much?

    Knowing from scientific data that children excel best when given the full and natural parental structure of one mother and one father.

    NOW they’re concerned about scientific data? And it’s entirely debunkable sociology data? F’ing hypocrites.

  • Knowing from scientific data that children excel best when given the full and natural parental structure of one mother and one father …

    You know, right-wingers should just stop trying to understand science, because all they ever do is get it wrong.

    Yes, there will be difference between kids raised in a gay household compared to a straight one. But there are difference between being raised in a Jewish household vs. a Catholic one, an African-American vs. Latino, etc. etc. etc.

    Basically, all a kid needs is love, patience and understanding. If you give them those things, the rest kinda works itself out.

  • The people who lambast Ms. Cheney for having a baby which will be loved and well cared for are the same people who tell women who have been raped that they should carry the foetus from the rape even if it endangers their life.

    If Jesus were alive, he’d disown them. Chirstian love is so similar to normal levels of hatred.

  • this suggests that when a pregnant woman learns her husband has died she should rush out and get an abortion to avoid rearing a child without a father. Horrors

    Of course not, the woman should immediately go to her nearest evangelical church and marry the first single man she can find. Duhhh. /sarcasm

    oh how pathetic these anti-gay idiots are…

  • Can’t help but wonder how many embryos died before she got impregnated.

    Wonder, too, how the two of them voted on the Virginia’s “marriage ammendment” which puts Heather in that very shadowy legal position regarding the child.

  • Silly, Moses… hadn’t you heard? Love can’t replace a mother and a father. So, clearly, this poor child will have no love…

    By the by, doesn’t everyone, on some level, have a baby “simply to stroke one’s own desire to have a child?”

    I further wonder how the hyper-religious feel about the method used to donate the sperm in the first place? It is a sin, afterall.

  • “Yes, there will be difference between kids raised in a gay household .” Yeah, I’d hope a kid raised in a gay household would be a BIT more tolerant that one raised in a wingnut household.
    OTOH, in the workds of the immortal Mr. Rogers, “Can you say schadenfreude? I like the way your mouth moves when you say that.”

  • “And lo, Mary was with child, though she had never known a man.”

    Grumpy @18

    Dammit, I need a new keyboard again!

  • Conservatives seem to be defined by their hypocrisies.
    Birthright as possesive greed.
    Child as matierial possession.

    Evil

  • Gays who stay in the Republican Party get what they fucking deserve, as the dimwitted morons they are.

    Too bad the kid can’t find parents who aren’t a pair of dimwitted morons.

  • In fact, Gays in the GOP are about one degree removed from the Jewish Kapos who organized the handing-over of their co-religionists to the Nazis.

  • I think Mary Cheyney is an awful person–she played the indignant victim when Kerry mentioned her–as if her father hadn’t been soiled by worse acts on his own behalf. I do, however, have to restrain myself in wishing her the sort of suffering that her father’s supporters want to visit on gay and lesbian parents, and by extension on their children. The fact is that it is so hard to be anyone’s child that they all need as much help and good will as they can get.

    So, I have to make the supreme sacrifice and restrain my loathing for her–and wish her well, so that her child can have a better chance. Lord knows from that family the little one is going to need it.

  • And lo, Mary was with child, though she had never known a man.
    Merry Christmas, everyone!
    Comment by Grumpy

    LOL Grumpy.

    Hey that might apply to Lynne Cheney, Laura Bush and all the wives of chickenhawks everywhere.

  • “I think it’s tragic that a child has been conceived with the express purpose of denying it a father.”

    Yes, I can hear those lesbians cackling evilly even now. Let’s have a baby just so it won’t have a father. Mwahaha. And then we’ll throw it away and have another, just so it won’t have a father.

    Fuckwit.

    It is just an impression, but I get the feeling a lot of this assery stems from insecurity and fear. How dare these women enjoy life with out a penis? What if their wives decide they’re sick of the useless, uptight bastards they’re married to and take up with women? And most importantly, I’m sure these guys are miffed that women have sex anywhere but in front of a web-cam.

    As for Ms. Earll, perhaps she’s a little wistful. “Love, I don’t need love…[sigh]”

  • While I disagree with your Kerry comparison, you’re right to point out the reaction by these conservatives. It’s disgusting. But to be fair to the rest of us that aren’t totally nuts, these guys are hardly big and influential conservatives. With the exception of McCullough I had never heard of any of them.

  • The ironic center of this issue won’t be about Mary and child; it’ll be about one final effort to placate the Base before January 4th, and whether “Grandpa” stays on as V-P. I imagine a lot of freeps are having second thoughts about “Dastardly Dick” right about now—and who a “properly-righteous” replacement might be. Too bad the GOP Congress is going home tomorow.

    Would they dare to name Santorum? The horror…the horror….

  • And now, my friends, for the ultimate irony. I will bet you any amount of money that the happy couple will relocate permanently to California, or a similar state that will recognize their union and both of their parental rights. We will be reading about this move in the next few weeks or months. So they will get to take advantage of the many rights that Mary and her party have worked so hard to deny gays. Don’t you just love this country?

    And as for Steve’s comment ( #29) I would further predict that Grandpa VP resigns shortly after the State of the Union, and King George appoints whoever the repugs think is their 08 frontrunner as VP.

    You heard it here first.

  • I’d like to be sympathetic and certainly the sins of the father should not be visited on the child – but way down deep all I can think is “Sorry Mary. Petard, hoist”

  • I say congradulations Mary and Heather to you for your new offspring. I only hope that you raise him/her to tune out the bigoted right-wing wackos that they will unfortunately have to be around. I would say you have your job cut out for you. Naturally they will accuse you of pushing the gay agenda in their face but I guess you deserve it but for the sake of the child and many others like yours you could advocate for acceptance from the right-wing sickos that would have you burned at the cross.

  • I think it’s tragic that a child has been conceived with the express purpose of denying it a father

    If memory serves me right, these cretins — certainly the Party they support — are in favor of the Iraq War. How many children are denied fathers and mothers because of Bush’s debacle? And they’re incensed about this? Oy vey.

  • In response to Tom’s comments (23 and 24), the idea that all gay people should automatically be Democrats is not a level-headed one. It makes the assumption that the only things a gay person would care about in politics are gay-related issues. Certainly there are many other issues (of which few people are perfectly aligned on) that factor into whether a person would be a Republican, a Democrat, or fall somewhere in between. Should we assume that Tom’s comments were meant to imply that everyone in the Democratic party is gay? Could someone be a Democrat for some other reason(s)? Of course they could, just as someone who is gay could be a Republican for reasons other than those related to gay issues. Maybe, for some gay people, other issues outweigh those related to their sexuality, and thus they tend to lean more to the right, thereby aligning themselves with the Republicans. There is no issue on which all Democrats or all Republicans, as groups, would agree. It is illogical to think that sexuality issues would break this rule and fall perfectly along party lines.

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