Since when does The Decider ask questions?

The president is in the midst of his “carefully choreographed” meetings on Iraq policy with experts who apparently are already inclined to agree with him. In the Bush White House, it’s what passes for “listening mode.”

At yesterday’s White House press briefing, a reporter raised an interesting question about how the president interacts with those who are briefing him on the war.

Q: On these briefings, is the President asking many questions?

MR. SNOW: Yes. It’s typically his nature. There were some presentations, especially — well, there were presentations both from State Department employees and also by folks on the provincial reconstruction teams. But on the other hand, he asks a lot of questions. And, you know, certainly not above stopping somebody as they make their presentation, asking a few pointed questions, and sometimes the conversation will move off in a different direction as a consequence.

Of course, Bush is quite the inquisitive one, isn’t he? It’s in his “nature” to ask a lot of questions; so many, in fact, that policy experts can barely get through a presentation without Mr. Thirst For Knowledge interrupting to inquire about additional details.

Please. When the presidential daily briefing said bin Laden was determined to strike inside the U.S., Bush didn’t ask any questions. When the NOAA said Katrina was about to smack the Gulf Coast, Bush didn’t ask any questions. Recalling the Iraq Study Group’s meeting with the president, former Bush 41 Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger said, “I don’t recall, seriously, that he asked any questions.”

And now we’re supposed to believe it’s “typically his nature” to be highly inquisitive? Since when?

By the way, there was one other gem from yesterday’s press briefing.

Sen. Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) raised some eyebrows late last week when, after years of general support for the president’s policy in Iraq, he condemned the effort. “I, for one, am at the end of my rope when it comes to supporting a policy that has our soldiers patrolling the same streets in the same way being blown up by the same bombs day after day,” Smith said, adding, “That is absurd. It may even be criminal.”

Reporters asked Tony Snow for the White House’s reaction to Smith’s comments.

MR. SNOW: Well, we dispute the “criminal” part, obviously, and at the same time, understand the senator’s concern. We share the concern about not doing well enough fast enough. But do not assume that people are simply being blown up. They are on missions. And as General Corelli said last week, “There’s not an engagement our people have lost, but it is still important to continue the work of building greater capability and capacity on the part of the Iraqi government and helping them out.”

People on both sides are going to have disagreements, much as Joe Lieberman, formerly a Democrat, apparently run out of his party for disagreeing with what was seen as orthodoxy at that time, but Gordon —

Q Republican Senator Smith is challenging the strategy. What he basically said yesterday, as well, was, when you do the same thing over and over again without a clear strategy for victory, that is dereliction, that is deeply immoral. Such is the dispute. He’s saying what the President is doing is immoral.

MR. SNOW: Well, then we disagree.

Q You’re just going to blow it off? A Republican senator is saying the President’s policy may be criminal and it’s immoral, and you’re just saying, we just disagree?

MR. SNOW: And what would you like me to say? Should I do duels at 10 paces?

Q Don’t you think you should answer for that? You’re saying — you’ve said from this podium over and over that the strategy is a victory, right? And you have a Republican senator is saying there is no clear strategy, that you don’t have a strategy.

MR. SNOW: Well, let’s let Senator Smith hear what the President has to say. We understand that this is a time where politics are emotional in the wake of an election. And you know what? Senator Smith is entitled to his opinion…. I don’t think it’s immoral to be a democracy. I don’t think it’s immoral to have a state that is able to stand up and defend itself against acts of terror. I don’t think it’s immoral to defend the Iraqi people against acts of terrorism aimed at Muslims.

Q The Senator is not saying that’s immoral. He’s saying that the U.S. — he’s saying, of course democracy is a great goal —

MR. SNOW: You know what, Ed? Ed, I’ll tell you what. You’re engaging in an argument and you’re trying to fill in the gaps in a —

Q It’s not an argument. It’s a Republican senator saying it, not me. It’s a Republican senator saying it, and he’s not —

MR. SNOW: Then tell me exactly what —

Q — of course he’s in favor of democracy.

MR. SNOW: Tell me —

Q Are you saying Republican Senator Smith is not in favor of democracy?

MR. SNOW: Well, I don’t know.

It’s the kind of smear the Bush gang usually reserves for Dems. Follow the logic — Bush started the war; the war is intended to create a democracy; democracy is good; therefore those who criticize the president’s handling of the war may disapprove of democracy.

It’s like talking to a child.

Children ask endless questions – our grand inquisitor doesn’t ask any questions especially if you don’t agree with him. How many questions did he ask the Iraq study group. (hoping this doesn’t post twice – the trick question at the end tripped me up!)

  • I’ve responded to students’ questions for over thirty years, even when in “lecture mode”. Most of them reflected a genuine “thirst for knowledge” and actually contributed to the lecture. Occasionally, however, I got one which had no other purpose than to put forth the questioner’s (usually irrelevant) beliefs, perhaps accompanied by a rude put-down of the lecturer. I suspect those are the only kinds of “questions” the Shrub knows how to ask.

  • And as General Corelli said last week, “There’s not an engagement our people have lost, but it is still important to continue the work of building greater capability and capacity on the part of the Iraqi government and helping them out.”

    And as General Wastemoreland said in Saigon in mid-February, 1968, in the aftermath of the Tet Offensive: “There’s not an engagement our people have lost…

    And as General Creighton Abrams said in 1969, following Nixon’s “Vietnamization” policy proposal: “…but it is still important to continue the work of building greater capability and capacity on the part of the Vietnamese government and helping them out.”

    The more things change…

  • i’m just impressed at the reporter’s follow-up, cutting into the fat of snow’s argument to get at the meat of the matter. this never used to happen.

  • George Tenet had to claim the intelligence on Iraq’s WMD was “a slam dunk” because Bush was pressing his briefer so hard with questions.

    So yes, I believe that Bush asks questions, or has in the past at least. I would not accept any claim by Snowjob, but sometime in the past and sometime in the future, Bush asked questions.

    And because he did, I refrain from refering to him here as Boy George II. 😉

  • Notice that the only reason the reporter is being this aggressive with the follow-ups is that they have contradicting statements from a Republican. When Democrats say the same things, no one pays attention.

    Even now, with Bush at 30%, Dems in control of House and Senate (having won a virtual shutout against the Republicans in the midterms), the only statements the mainstream press will bother to pay attention to are those from Republicans.

  • ***But do not assume that people are simply being blown up. They are on missions.***
    ———————————–SnowFlake

    Yeah—right, Tony. They’re on missions to buy groceries and find jobs—and in the process, they’re getting blown up. Blown up by the bushel.

    ***Should I do duels at 10 paces?***
    ——————————————————-Same SnowFlake as before

    No, Tony. Just stand real still, while I introduce your face to Mr. Crowbar. That way, we can get you out from in front of that TV camera.

    The media needs to stop tagging this guy about his boss. You cannot melt a snowflake by turning the torch in a different direction. The media needs to start firing point-blank at this man’s incredible stupidity—and when he tries to bail from the heat by saying “I’m-quoting-so-and-so,” hit him with the raw factoid that HE—he himself, Tony Snow—is the one saying it in front of the cameras and microphones at that moment. HE is the one choosing to repeat what the vast majority of Americans—not to mention damned near the entire planet—knows to be stupid, incorrect stuff. I wouldn’t even give the nitwit the benefit of a “slow burn.” Crank the temperature to “charred beyond even DNA recognition,” and run this clown outta DC on the next GreyDog….

    Feed the bonfires !!!

  • What he basically said yesterday, as well, was, when you do the same thing over and over again without a clear strategy for victory, that is dereliction, that is deeply immoral. Such is the dispute. He’s saying what the President is doing is immoral.

    He’s got to love them making what he said into more of what he wishes he could have said. He can just sit back, and act like ‘I didn’t mean all that…’

  • CB wrote: It’s the kind of smear the Bush gang usually reserves for Dems. Follow the logic — Bush started the war; the war is intended to create a democracy; democracy is good; therefore those who criticize the president’s handling of the war may disapprove of democracy.

    * * *

    I don’t know, I just read what you posted, but it sounded to me more like the reporter just got tripped up. It sounded like Snow was making a defensive remark, saying that he’s not opposed to Democracy when other Republicans are publicly critical of the president’s plans.

  • Typical Bush questions during a presentation: Hey, baldy that’s quite a shine, what sort of wax do you use? Mind if I give it a rub? No? Fine, how much longer is this goin’ go? I gotta get to the gym.

  • Snow blew it. The answer is simple. It is either:

    Smith has made his choice and has sided with the terrorists. Smith might be an OBL / al qaeda sympathyzer. Since Smith loves the terrorists he must hate America. Smith should do everyone a favor and just go and move to Pakistan.

    Or Smith must hate freedom and democracy in Iraq ……. for Arabs. So Smith must be a racist.

    Either way Smith has some serious questions to answer about his racism or his blantant sympanthy for the terrorists.

  • So it’s okay to accuse a Republican senator of opposing democracy and peace in Iraq, but Joe Liebermann was “run out of his party for disagreeing with what was seen as orthodoxy at that time”?

    “But do not assume that people are simply being blown up.”

    Quite right, people are also being shot, stabbed, beheaded, and burnt to a crisp .

  • Now WHY in the WORLD would Preznit Bush Jr. NEED to ask any questions when he ALREADY KNOWS ALL THE ANSWERS???

    Just cuz you commie liberal DEMMYCRATS is stoopid don’t mean the PREZNIT is.

    Jeez!!!

  • “…Smith said, adding, “That is absurd. It may even be criminal.”

    MR. SNOW: Well, we dispute the “criminal” part

    But not the “absurd” part? At least that’s some progress.

    Tony “Bushit” Snow is a hacker’s hack, and it’s getting more and more obvious that he bet his career on Bush, and will lose it. Too bad, Tony. Good luck in that underground bunker with the Bush dead-enders. I hear they’re in their last throes.

  • “Well, then we disagree.”

    I hope Tony TallTales is getting paid. That guy seriously earns his money. He was answering to a question without an obvious answer, is Bush liable ?
    But I would say for the most part, Tony’s “Well, then we disagree” comment is a pretty good indicator of how the White House handles any bad news, they disagree with it. I have been thinking about implementing this ‘bad news’ strategy in my everyday life:

    LANDLORD: You owe me rent !!!
    ME: Well, I disagree.

    BOSS/TRUMP: Your fired !!!
    ME: Well, I disagree.

    GIRLFRIEND: I am leaving you !!!
    ME: Well, I disagree.

    CLERK: You credit card has been denied !!!
    ME: Well, I disagree.

    Man life is grand when you don’t have to live in reality, I see the appeal.

  • Oh yes, Sen. Webb knows Bush is “inquisitve:”

    “That’s not what I asked you, I said how’s your boy?”
    I can easily see him asking similar “questions,” during a briefing:
    “That’s not what I asked you, I said, how can we win this thing?”

    I’m of two minds about Snow. Is he JUST an obnoxious shit head who needs to be handed over to Steve for roasting (provided I get a few hits in first) OR, is he an obnoxious shit head who is taking the heat off Bush by being an obnoxious shit head (who still needs to be handed over to Steve, provided I get a few hits in first)? Tony Snowblind, Weapon of Mass Distraction.

    tAiO

    OT – Congrats to Webb on the birth of a new daughter. Maybe Baby Webb and Baby Cheney can go on play dates.

  • Of course, Bush is quite the inquisitive one, isn’t he? It’s in his “nature” to ask a lot of questions; so many, in fact, that policy experts can barely get through a presentation without Mr. Thirst For Knowledge interrupting to inquire about additional details.

    LOL Great piece of snark.

    Great Bush Questions:
    How’s your boy?
    Is our children learning?
    It’s hard. Does that help? (this was in a political context)

  • “Q: On these briefings, is the President asking many questions?”

    The fact that a reporter even asks this question with a straight face to Tony Snow only proves that the reporter damn well knows what the answer is, he just wants to see how amusingly Tony will lie about it.

    Tony is a carnival midway freakshow. “See the Amazing Liar, a man who absolutely cannot tell the truth about anything.” Like all freak shows, I guess the press can only stand aghast and laugh at the ugliness.

  • OT – Congrats to Webb on the birth of a new daughter. Maybe Baby Webb and Baby Cheney can go on play dates.
    Comment by The answer is orange

    🙂 That’s a nice thought. Unless President A-Bush-To-Be-Named-Later has Webb-baby fighting in another war while Cheney-Baby trolls Argentina for “talent”.

    Webb is too old to be making babies. I wonder if he has a young trophy wife to whom he had to prove he hadn’t a-trophied.

  • Among New York’s Tammany Hall political machine’s rewards was the position of “bridge watcher.” His job was to arise each morning and look out his window to see if the Brooklyn Bridge was still there. Then he would call City Hall and let them know. For this, he was well-paid and had much free time.

    There is no reason for Dubya to be inquisitive or ask questions. It’s not his job. Cheney runs the government, Bush is the “bridge watcher.”

  • “Webb is too old to be making babies.” – Dale

    Younger than Strom Thurman I believe. And vastly better looking.

  • Webb is too old to be making babies. I wonder if he has a young trophy wife to whom he had to prove he hadn’t a-trophied. — Dale@19

    Webb’s wife is 38, so it’s 22 yrs difference. Not that much, juding by my own experience; my husband is 25 yrs my senior. Men take a long time to mature 🙂 Anyway, both Webb and she look much younger than their age.

  • I’m reminded of Paul O’Neill talking about how Bush would sit dumbly through cabinet meetings with nary a question, likewise in his private meetings with him. And his comment, what was it? Something about a blind man in a room full of deaf people or something like that? “Mr. Thirst for Knowledge” indeed… that’s a great line!

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