Bush acknowledges reality in Iraq — a little

It strikes me as rather unfortunate that we’ve reached a point in which it’s literally front-page news when the president is willing to acknowledge that we are not winning the war in Iraq. Talk about your soft bigotry of low expectations.

Indeed, it’s now considered progress when Bush dodges the question. Consider this exchange during the president’s lengthy Washington Post interview.

WP: Are we winning in Iraq, in your estimation?

Bush: You know, I think an interesting construct that General [Peter] Pace uses is, “We’re not winning, we’re not losing.” There’s been some very positive developments. And you take a step back and look at progress in Iraq, you say, well, it’s amazing — constitutional democracy in the heart of the Middle East, which is a remarkable development in itself.

Asked about the fact that Bush, just a month ago, announced that we’re “absolutely” winning in Iraq, the president explained, “Yes, that was an indication of my belief we’re going to win.”

So, this is the big news. After nearly four years of this disastrous war, Bush has gone from total confidence that we’re winning, to the equivocating “we’re not winning, we’re not losing.” This is progress?

I’m afraid this isn’t impressive. In fact, over the course of 4,000-word interview, the president gave no indication that he has any idea what to do about the nightmare he created.

Perhaps the most important point, substantively, was the notion of a larger military.

In another turnaround, Bush said he has ordered Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates to develop a plan to increase the troop strength of the Army and Marine Corps, heeding warnings from the Pentagon and Capitol Hill that multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan are stretching the armed forces toward the breaking point. “We need to reset our military,” said Bush, whose administration had opposed increasing force levels as recently as this summer.

Two points. One, John Kerry unveiled a plan to increase the troop strength of the military in 2004, but Bush rejected the idea. Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said, “I am glad [Bush] has realized the need for increasing the size of the armed forces … but this is where the Democrats have been for two years.”

And two, Bush seemed to separate the notion of a larger military from the pushed-to-the-breaking-point military in Iraq, as if the two were separate issues. They’re not. As Oliver Willis put it, “Look, if the U.S. military wasn’t busy babysitting Iraq and trying to build a brand new nation that was never there while getting killed – there would be no military stretched thin. In fact, we’d be ahead in the global fight against terror instead of at the mercy of tyrants.”

Asked specifically if the Army is nearly broken at this point or not, the president said, “The people that would know best are those in the Pentagon.” Way to take a bold stand, Mr. Commander in Chief.

And what about the troop “surge” the White House appears to favor? The Post asked, “Given the election results, is increasing the troop level in Iraq even a viable possibility or option?” Bush responded:

“I think what the people want is — they want a couple of things. They want to see Democrats and Republicans work together to achieve a common objective, and they want us to win in Iraq. A lot of people understand that if we leave Iraq, there will be dire consequences — in other words, if we leave before the job is done. There are some, a fair number of people, who say, ‘Get out now.’ So I view the election results as people are not satisfied with the progress being made in Iraq and expect to see a different strategy to achieve an important objective.”

The president couldn’t be more wrong; the electorate just isn’t where he thinks it is. 70% of Americans disapprove of Bush’s handling of the war, not because people want a different strategy, but because Bush rejects the one strategy with majority support — get the troops out of Iraq.

The whole interview is online, but if you’re looking for insights into what Bush is thinking or planning to do, you’ll be left wanting more.

the president gave no indication that he has any idea what to do about the nightmare he created.

go do something else?

  • How I yearn for a Parliamentary system of goverment. Pelosi could call for “vote of no confidence” on the House floor TODAY. Throw this baffled numbskull out and appoint Steny Hoyer as interim President. Sigh.

  • I scanned the interview this morning and my overall impression was “smarmy”. I could hear Jon Stewart doing “heh-heh-he” all the way through.

    Perhaps the most important comment was Bush saying the press need him to exist, and he couldn’t exist without the press. Arrogance and ignorance encapsulated perfectly. What an ass.

  • The Decider™ has a press conference scheduled for 10am this morning, where I’m sure we’ll get to hear more of his Gandalfian wisdom.

  • the president gave no indication that he has any idea what to do about the nightmare he created.

    Hire John Kerry as a consultant to tell him what to do?

  • Saying the glass is half empty after years of saying that the glass was full altogether does not absolve him of responsibility in creating the mess in the first place.

    What is missing is a sense of strategic forethought beyond the needs of the moment. This is why the Joint Chiefs resist the idea of a “surge” — there appears to be no larger plan animating Bush’s interest in a surge.

  • “We’re not winning, we’re not losing.” That means – we’re tied! Yes, and our troops in Iraq are about to go into octuple overtime to determine who is going to win this war. No wonder our men and women in uniform are stressed to the breaking point.

  • “The president couldn’t be more wrong; the electorate just isn’t where he thinks it is. 70% of Americans disapprove of Bush’s handling of the war, not because people want a different strategy, but because Bush rejects the one strategy with majority support — get the troops out of Iraq.”

    CB, you forget that although we have math, Karl has “THE math” and he must be using that same math here.

  • It’s a Roadrunner cartoon. Wil E. Coyote, er, George W. Bush is at that point when he has suddenly realized that he is over the cliff Any attempt to run back is pointless as gravity has finally taken over.

    There is no way daddy or his Skull and Bones buddies are going to save his ass when you fuck up on a global scale.

  • When sifting through this Iraq engagement and its tragic results, all will come to blame Bush for it. Yes, this is Bush’s nightmare. I guess it’s his little gift to us for giving him so much “political currency” all these years. -Kevo

  • Kevo–ain’t that the truth. And this reminds me of our (the greater CB community’s) discussions of a couple years ago where we hypothesized as to whether a Bush victory over Kerry would result in the “best thing that could happen to the Democratic Party” (but not necessarily the best thing that could happen to the US as a whole). I really do think this has come to pass, with the Dems strengthened and poised to strengthen significantly more on the state and local levels, but with the US in many ways in shambles.

  • I am kind of surprised that you didn’t pick up on the part where Bush basically said that it was his duty to lie to the American people about the situation in Iraq:

    Can we come back to General Pace’s formulation about winning, not losing? You said October 24th, “Absolutely, we’re winning.” And I wanted to —

    Yes, that was an indication of my belief we’re going to win. Look, I’ve got four constituencies I speak to on a regular basis; one is the American people, who are justifiably frustrated at the progress in Iraq. And they expect the commander in chief and the people in Washington to support our troops. Supporting our troops not only means good equipment, good [pay], good housing — it also means a plan that helps achieve the objective.

    The second constituency is the enemy. I’m not through yet.

    Sure.

    The enemy wants to know whether or not the United States has the will to stay engaged in this ideological struggle. They don’t believe we do. That’s what they say. And I believe that’s what they believe.

    The third group of people I speak to are the Iraqis. They wonder whether the United States has got the will to help them achieve their objectives. That’s what they wonder. The leaders I have talked to wonder whether or not — what the elections mean, or what the Baker-Hamilton commission means, or what changing [former defense] secretary [Donald H.] Rumsfeld means — that’s what they wonder. But in the back of their mind, they’re saying, “Are they going to leave us again?” And that’s an important question for them to have answered, because in order to make difficult choices and to take risk for peace, they’re going to have to be assured that they’ll get support. This is a group of people that have had their hopes dashed in the past.

    And the fourth group is the military. Our troops wonder whether or not our country supports them, and they do. They wonder whether or not the mission and the sacrifice and the toil that they’re making is worth it. And they need to know from the commander in chief: Not only is it worth it, but I strongly support them and believe that their work will lead to victory. That’s what I believe.

    Anyway, you just need to know that’s who I’m speaking to when I speak.

    See, the President wasn’t lying when he said, “Absolutely, we’re winning.” He was supporting the troops, undermining the enemy, bucking up the Iraqis that his dad had let down and bolstering the military.

  • Bush reminds me of Bullwinkle the Moose’

    “Now watch me pull a rabbit out of my Hat”

    “Whoa! I better get a new Hat!”

    Bush: now watch me pull a plan out of my ass!

    He put the guy with ISG plan into the Pentagon, but not to execute THAT plan; Gates has to come up with some OTHER plan that somehow doesn’t make Bush look like Bullwinkle the Moose.

    In Iraq – They’re all screwed!

  • I doesn’t matter at all what Bush says or thinks (he has severe difficulties doing either). Cheney is determined to *win* the war in Iraq (his income and sense of self depends upon our staying there) and that’s that.

    That this war is no more effective than the GOP’s decades-old wars on drugs and on out-of-wedlock [how quaint] pregnancy is of no consequence either. Americans, no matter their responses to pollsters, with continue sheepishly to pay in lives and limbs and billions because no one, including the Democratic leadership, has the guts to tell them to stop.

  • Bush’s stupidity and pansy-assed leadership style is demontrated by his inability to understand that any failure in Iraq is political and rests squarely on his shoulders. The fact that Bush keeps turfing his inability to take care of the political end of this mess back onto the backs of US troops is despicable. His fear and hubris are getting people killed. If he had balls and brains, he could patch together a negotiated solution to this mess. But incompetence, after all, is the hallmark of his administration.

  • You know, I think an interesting construct that General [Peter] Pace uses is, “We’re not winning, we’re not losing.”

    First note that this is not Bush’s judgment. He didn’t review and digest the information concerning Iraq as presented to him by Stephen Hadley,his National Security Adviser, and come to his own conclusion. He is simply taking Gen. Pace’s word for it. And my suspicion is that Pace knows full well that we are losing, but he also knows he can’t say that to Junior without eliciting an emotional outbreak. Given the report on the JCS belief that more troops are not needed, my guess is that we are now watching the slow process steering the delusional Junior to withdrawal from Iraq.

  • Bush’s comment on the Iraqis:

    “This is a group of people that have had their hopes dashed in the past.”

    Well, sounds like someone isn’t expecting that Red Rider from Dad this Christmas.

    Also, concerning exactly HOW they plan to increase troop levels. Should I expect a letter in the mail saying

    From the President of the United States,
    Congradulations! You have just volunteered to re-enlist in the United States Army.

  • Dr. Harry G. Frankfurt, Ph.D., one of the world’s leading
    moral philosophers, wrote a heavy-duty philosophy tome that won
    awards and became a non-academic best seller two years ago – “On
    Bullshit” – in which he points out:

    “…bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of
    themselves without being concerned about whether anything at
    all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their
    end of the conversation so that claims about truth and
    falsity are irrelevant. The difference between bullshitting
    and lying lies in the bullshitter’s complete disregard for
    whether what he’s saying corresponds to facts in the
    physical world: he does not reject the authority of the
    truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays
    no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a
    greater enemy of the truth than lies are.”

    Sound like anybody whose interview you just read?

  • Couple what Bush said with what Senator Harry Reid says here (from his blog at Huffington Post):

    Frankly, I don’t believe that more troops is the answer for Iraq. It’s a civil war and America should not be policing a Sunni-Shia conflict. In addition, we don’t have the additional forces to put in there. We obviously want to support what commanders in the field say they need, but apparently even the Joint Chiefs do not support increased combat forces for Baghdad. My position on Iraq is simple:

    1. I believe we should start redeploying troops in 4 to 6 months (The Levin-Reed Plan) and complete the withdrawal of combat forces by the first quarter of 2008. (As laid out by the Iraq Study Group)

    2. The President must understand that there can only be a political solution in Iraq, and he must end our nation’s open-ended military commitment to that country.

    3. These priorities need to be coupled with a renewed diplomatic effort and regional strategy.

    I do not support an escalation of the conflict. I support finding a way to bring our troops home and would look at any plan that gave a roadmap to this goal.

    It’s been two weeks since the Iraq Study Group released its plan to change the course and bring our troops home. Since then, the President has been on a fact finding tour of his own administration — apparently ignoring the facts presented by those in the military who know best. The President needs to put forth a plan as soon as possible, one that reflects the reality on the ground in Iraq and that withdraws our troops from the middle of this deadly civil war.

    Let’s see you work with that President Never-Was!

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