Keith Ellison beats critics — point, set, match

One last post about Rep.-elect [tag]Keith Ellison[/tag] (D-Minn.) and his use of a Koran during his ceremonial swearing-in photo-op.

If you’re just joining us, right-wing talk-show host and writer Dennis Prager got the ball rolling about a month ago, arguing that Ellison, Congress’ first Muslim, will literally “undermine American civilization” and “embolden Islamic extremists” if he takes the oath of office on a Koran instead of a Christian Bible. A wide assortment of right-wing critics came forward with similar denunciations, including Rep. [tag]Virgil Goode[/tag] (R-Va.), who argued that Ellison is proof that we need immigration reform to prevent Muslims from entering the United States.

To his credit, Ellison has handled all of this with class and the aplomb his bigoted critics lack. Today we learn that the Minnesota lawmaker has come up with a trump card that should effectively end this silly debate.

We’ve learned that the new congressman — in a savvy bit of political symbolism — will hold the personal copy [of the Koran] once owned by [tag]Thomas Jefferson[/tag].

“He wanted to use a Koran that was special,” said Mark Dimunation, chief of the rare book and special collections division at the Library of Congress, who was contacted by the Minnesota Dem early in December. Dimunation, who grew up in Ellison’s 5th District, was happy to help.

Jefferson’s copy is an English translation by George Sale published in the 1750s; it survived the 1851 fire that destroyed most of Jefferson’s collection and has his customary initialing on the pages.

Just for added fun, it’s worth noting that Jefferson was a native of, you guessed it, Goode’s congressional district.

No word from the right on whether use of Jefferson’s Koran will “undermine American civilization” and “embolden Islamic extremists.”

LOL.That’s great! Great piece of political oneupyoursship.

Couple of things: Jefferson wasn’t a “believer” in the Koran. And a translation of the Koran is not the Koran. Only the Arabic version is.

I’m sure Elliott has a lot of virtues, but to me being a religionist is not one of them. A sense of humor definitely is though.

  • Jefferson? That godless, atheistic (I know, redundant; I never did understand that ’50s GOP phrase) raghead lover Jefferson? The one who deflowered Sally Hemings? I just knew Ellis would find some way to thwart our god-fearing Bible-thumping Jesus-jumping snake handlers who’ve been responsible for all that’s good about the red-white-an’-blue US of A blest by the Awlmighty Gawd (who’s my personal savior and opposed to all hummahsexshuls). What’s a proper bigot to do these days?

  • Man the irony and the humor are so deep it can only prove that fact is way stranger then fiction. CAN NOT wait to see what Prager and Goode have for a response.

    We know from past experience neither knows when to stop digging. The hole is so deep that each shovel full is landing right back on themselves, this out to be really good.

    I bet this is causing a lot of sleeplessness in R-ville. That damn Jefferson just keeps fucking up their agenda from the grave.

    I would love to see the Jefferson smear machine cranked up.

  • “He wanted to use a Koran that was special,” said Mark Dimunation, chief of the rare book and special collections division at the Library of Congress,

    Great, now Goode will demand the purging of all non-Christian religious material from the Library of Congress.

    Taking into consideration this whole silly issue, who would Jesus be more impressed with:
    the behavior of Goode, Prager and their supporters,
    or Keith Ellison’s reaction to this behavior?

  • “We’ve learned that the new congressman — in a savvy bit of political symbolism — will hold the personal copy [of the Koran] once owned by Thomas Jefferson.”

    Moments like these are why I love politics.

    “Jefferson wasn’t a “believer” in the Koran.”Dale

    I doubt any readers of TCR would think that Jefferson was a “believer” in the Koran, but thanks for pointing it out just in case.

    “And a translation of the Koran is not the Koran.”Dale

    For whom? I’m not sure this is not universallly true.

    “’I’m sure Elliott has a lot of virtues, but to me being a religionist is not one of them.”Dale

    Why is that? I really don’t know much about him, but he seems sincere about his religion.

    “What’s a proper bigot to do these days?”Ed Stephan

    Good question. On the other hand, I think that if I was being sworn in as a member of congress this year, I’d be VERY tempted to use a copy of the Constitution as my symbol of commitment.

  • That’s not the point. You damn liberals don’t get it. Goode wasn’t pointing to the details. It was the broader problem. You know, if you let germs into your body, you’ll die right away. Oh wait, that’s not true. Er, but you’ll die eventually. Er, you know what Goode means, so don’t pretend. 🙂

  • Ka. Boom.

    And of course in C-ville, people still revere Mr. Jefferson. Further quacking by Goode might be perceived as an attack on TJ. This in turn might lead to a nasty accident on the grounds of Monticello. However, I’m sure some rightie-tightie will say this is a victory against the Forces of Islam because the book was in English or something.

    But you know what? If the More Muslims in Office Goode is crapping his pants over means more class-acts like Ellison: Shalom Malaikim, my brothers!*

    tAiO

    *Please pardon my huked on foniks spelling.

  • Danny #9
    “Jefferson wasn’t a “believer” in the Koran.” – Dale
    I doubt any readers of TCR would think that Jefferson was a “believer” in the Koran, but thanks for pointing it out just in case..

    (Your asinine tone aside) The point being that Ellison IS a believer and the inference that he is getting Jefferson’s (an atheist) “blessing” on his religion by using a book Jefferson owned. It’s a funny gesture, but an empty one. It’s a lot like the Republicans quoting Kennedy

    “And a translation of the Koran is not the Koran.” – Dale
    For whom? I’m not sure this is not universallly true.

    Just check with any Islamic madrass.

    “’I’m sure Elliott has a lot of virtues, but to me being a religionist is not one of them.” – Dale
    Why is that? I really don’t know much about him, but he seems sincere about his religion.

    Sincerity about a religion isn’t a virtue, it just means you’re more apt to be its dupe.

  • Aww, it’s easy to hit Large Slow Targets like Prager and Goode – they’re usually too stupid to realize you’ve just decapitated them if you use a sharp enough knife, as Ellison has here.

  • So — which document does Ellison owe allegience to: The U.S. Constitution or the Koran? They are not compatible, especially concerning freedom of religion and the press. If he upholds the Constitution he ignores the Koran. If he upholds the laws as “revealed” to Mohammed he ignores the Constitution. I wonder how he feels about Sharia laws?

  • Fallenwoman- do you ask the same questions of Christian politicians? After all, Jesus revered life, so how can a Christian politician support the Death Penalty? (and so on and so forth).

    Yes, there are legitimate questions about everyone’s allegiances- and it is legitimate to ask them. However, if you only ask it of someone because they are one specific religion, that is rather hypocritical. Normally, we assume that the allegiance is to the constitution (which is, after all what the oath says).

  • So — which document does Goode owe allegience to: The U.S. Constitution or the Bible? They are not compatible, especially concerning freedom of religion and the press. If he upholds the Constitution he ignores the Bible. If he upholds the laws as “revealed” to Moses he ignores the Constitution. I wonder how he feels about Old Testament laws?

  • I suspect that most of our non-athiest representatives are loyal first to their own personal opinions about the meanings of there chosen religious texts, and then to the constitution. How compatable those two things are depends on the particular (peculiar?) opinions of representative in question.

  • “And a translation of the Koran is not the Koran.”

    Damn tootin’ but it should be written in English just like the bible.

  • “I think that if I was being sworn in as a member of congress this year, I’d be VERY tempted to use a copy of the Constitution as my symbol of commitment.”

    If one were a member of the GOP perhaps it had better be Jefferson Davis’ personal copy of the Constitution. Or maybe even George Bush’s.

  • Another irony in all of this is that Keith’s ancestors had probably emigrated to Louisiana before Jefferson’s copy of the Koran had even been published.

  • So — which document does Ellison owe allegience to: The U.S. Constitution or the Koran? They are not compatible, especially concerning freedom of religion and the press. If he upholds the Constitution he ignores the Koran. If he upholds the laws as “revealed” to Mohammed he ignores the Constitution. I wonder how he feels about Sharia laws?

    Comment by Fallenwoman

    Gee whiz, where to begin? Ma’am those who are elected swear an oath and allegiance to THE CONSTITUTION. Whatever props an elected person wants to use is just fine. The swearing in ceremony is a photo-op, nothing more and nothing less. Simple minded folks like to contain the debate in the smallest possible parameters (it makes it easier for them to remember what they said). It is, however, not a valid way to discuss and understand the topic at hand. Once again: The swearing in is a photo op for the folks ‘back home’. The fact is Mr. Goode is a bigot and an elected member of Congress. Fair enough. His employers need to decide if he is the correct person to represent them. Your God is no more powerful than their God. Their God is no more powerful than your God. Both Gods are rumors anyway. If indeed God were watching over us, how do you explain George W Bush?

  • If indeed God were watching over us, how do you explain George W Bush? — Tom, @26

    “God is watching us, God is watching us… From a distance”

    It’s the distance and the lack of technology (like binoculars or no-line multifocals for the aged) that accounts for God’s poor vision.

  • I’m looking forward to watching Keith Ellison use his political savvy in Congress. He has stayed above the fray and let his opponents make themselves look foolish by their own actions. He gets how the game is played, or should be.

  • “If indeed God were watching over us, how do you explain George W Bush?”

    Comment by Tom.

    God IS watching over us. Geroge W. Bush is punishment for our sins.

  • God IS watching over us. Geroge W. Bush is punishment for our sins.

    Comment by John A. Broussard

    Nicely put, sir.

  • Denying the link of the Quran to genocide is a type of genocide denial. Muhammad began by genociding Jews. He then justified it afterwards. That became part of the Quran. The Quran is Jew-hate genocidal literature. Those who deny the Quran’s role in genocide of Jews are in the same position as those who deny Mein Kampf’s role in genocide of Jews.


    Alamgir Hussain on massacres of Jews by Muhammad

    Debate on Turkey and genocide at bottom of Paul Cella article at Red States

    Who really believes in assimilation?

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