Just how restless is the GOP’s base?

Religious right groups and their members have been in a funk for a couple of years now. After the 2004 election, the Dobson wing of the GOP thought it finally would get everything it wanted from Washington, which would be dominated by its like-minded allies. Two years later, the movement’s to-do list had very few check marks, and Democrats now control Congress.

Worse, the same group of people aren’t terribly excited about the future. Looking ahead to 2008, Dobson, Robertson, Falwell, et al., assumed they’d have a key role in helping chose the next Republican presidential nominee. Instead they’re left with John McCain (which Sister Souljah-ed the religious right in 2000), Rudy Giuliani (who disagrees with them on every social issue that matters to them), and Mitt Romney (who was pro-choice and pro-gay up until five minutes ago).

As Time reported, the religious right is feeling more than a little antsy.

It wasn’t so long ago that conservatives believed that George Bush’s presidency would usher in a political realignment that would last for decades. But as the right looks forward to the next election, something close to panic is setting in. Surveying the leading G.O.P. contenders for 2008, direct-mail guru Richard Viguerie pronounces “not a one of them is worthy of support from conservatives.”

Says Craig Shirley, a public relations executive who represents many conservative groups and who has written a book on the Reagan revolution: “There’s anger, there’s angst, there’s dismay in the conservative movement.” Some activists, Shirley adds, have even begun talking quietly among themselves about forming a third party. (emphasis added)

Frankly, I have a hard time imagining this ever coming to fruition. Speculation about the creation of an even more right-wing theocratic party pops up every few years, and while Karl Rove and others apparently worry about it, there’s rarely any serious follow-through.

That said, is there anything we can do to help push this along?

Better–why not encourage the Republicans to keep becoming that party? Roy Moore in ’08! Or at least, Sam Brownback.

  • They’d need lots of cash, and said cash must keep flowing every year to get their candidates elected.

    But, can they continue to push their agenda? Didn’t the most recent election show the majority of the country does not think like them?

    Dobson still speaks around the country, Robertson says dumb things every quarter and not too many are happy with BushCo.

    I’d like to think they’d just fade away, but that never happens.

  • How does one start and feed a vicious circle of finger-pointing and political defeats? Cut taxes, spend billions on a stupid war, lose the center, and thus disable the political power of the Republicans to impose specious cultural values.

  • Dobson to Repubs, “I’m taking my ball and going home. I don’t wnt to play with you anymore.”

    Go ahead and form that third party. I think the name “Fag Haters Party” isn’t taken yet. I’d like to seem them Nader the Repubs in an election for a change. The Repubs, sans their rabid social conservative wing, can go back to being a bunch of country clubbers pining for goverment handouts to their big businesses.

  • I absolutely despise the rightwing bigoted restrictive chicken hearted fearmongering, but I would be very willing to contribute a small percentage of my income to get a third party going with a reactionary nutbar candidate within the next 13 months. A home for Sam Brownback, George Allen and Rick Santorum.

  • Doesn’t this mean that a more winnable candidate is likely to emerge from the Republican Convention? More acceptable to independents?

  • If Lieberman can ignore the will of the people and form his own political party, then why not the Theofascists? It would be a win-win situation. First, it drives a wedge between the two primary segments of the hardcore conservative base, with the very real possibility of sending large numbers of moderate Republicans into the Dem camp—thus reinforcing the ability to maintain a numerical majority in both houses of Congress, the State Legislatures, Governors, County offices—right down to the local level, and back up again—to the White House. Second, to quote from Focality’s post:

    ***They’d need lots of cash, and said cash must keep flowing every year to get their candidates elected.***

    Desperation will necessitate that those huge sums of cash, eventually, will start being “skimmed” from collection plates—with the end result being the loss of tax-exempt status. Enacting taxes on the religious industry of this nation will put a huge dent in the deficit, and it will de-fang the Theocratic movement “once and for all….”

  • The two of the last four elections showed that the majority of the country doesn’t think like them.

    In 2000 more people voted for center-left candidates (Gore and Nader) than voted for center-right candidates (Bush and Buchannon).

    In 2002 the GOP picked up seats, but the country was still a little wacko about terrorist attacks, and still believed the lie that Republicans protect us better.

    In 2004 Bush won the popular vote. But I still wonder why every problem with voting machines in Ohio benefitted the Republicans over the Democrat.

    In 2006, well, we all know what happened then.

    You realize, of course, that the Dobsons of the world don’t care about things like numbers? They are right, we are wrong, and it is their duty to make us behave. After all, it’s our immortal souls that they are saving…

  • From my observation living among Republicans:

    Democrats will look at the candidates and vote for the one they think will do the best job. Republicans look at the list of candidates only long enough to figure out which one is Republican and then vote accordingly.

    Dobson may talk about forming a third party but the rank and file will still vote Republican.

  • Not sure what could help this along besides continuing to ignore them. Wouldn’t it be funny if the birth of Mary Cheney’s child, along with some pictures of proud Grandpa Dick, was the impetus for the official formation of a Christianist Party?

    Il est nee le divine enfant.

  • I would continue to look for issues that divide the wingnuts from the greedy corporatists, like the issue of stem cell research or immigration. Once you have a divisive issue isolated, fuel as much as possible the grassroots efforts of the people who are die-hards. If a die-hard group gets a few dozen letters telling them to never give up, telling them that “the real people” will reward them if they ignore the GOP and put principles over pragmatism, they will believe that they will have backing if they push for a split. It’s not a realistic outlook, but they’re crazy and they will see a forest when it’s just a few trees.

    A few die-hards properly placed (ala Ralph Nader?) can peel off a host of purists, and they will vote on principle to the detriment of the GOP. A few thousand votes here and there could make a huge difference in certain elections.

  • If we could get Dobson and/or Farwell to run in ’08, that would definitely start a new party.

    Just remember the old adage about getting what you wish for. If 25% of the country thinks Jesus is making a comeback tour in 007, well who knows.

  • Two years later, the movement’s to-do list had very few check marks…

    At least Terri Schiavo is in heaven, exactly as they wanted. That is what they were protesting about, wasn’t it???

    Giuliani (who disagrees with them on every social issue that matters to them)

    Rudy’s right there with ’em when it comes to public funding of the perverted arts.

  • We already have a third party candidate. Encourage the corporatists and the “pure” conservatives to join the Libertarians and let the Repubs be perceived more and more as the Christian Tailban, as a party of southern states. The inertia of a dysfunctional coalition is now in affect. The Dobson crowd’s own holier-than-thou posturing has been sufficient to create a schism and their arrogance should exacerbate it further. The Abramoff wing of the party doesn’t like being preached to and told that they are godless heathens.

  • Focality (#2): I’d like to think they’d just fade away, but that never happens.

    Actually, yahoo-religions have come and gone periodically throughout colonial and American history (think of all the Great Awakenings, though I’m not at all sure what the mainstream mass media’s fascination with them will do to well-established that pattern.

    In the past the public would just tire of them, plus their followers came to realize it just wasn’t worth the effort trying to save everybody. I think the last one which got any attention politically, before the current crop, was Charles Coughlin, the “radio priest”, in the ’20s and’30s. I’d say the Falwell-Robertson-Dobson run is about over as far as the public is concerned. The mass media used to be pretty savvy to trends, but I don’t know about them since, under their patron saint P.T. Barnum, they became primarily money-making arms of the entertainment industry.

  • Dale,

    Doesn’t this mean that a more winnable candidate is likely to emerge from the Republican Convention? More acceptable to independents?

    Only if the Christian Conservatives really do stay home. They won’t. This is why McCain or Brownback will likely be the GOP nominee.

  • That said, is there anything we can do to help push this along?

    Yes!

    Check this out. Folks on the left in Oregon are trying to splinter off from the Democratic party without damaging it’s candidate’s chances in the way that Nader did in 2000. They plan to form a party called Working Families Party of Oregon under a voting system called “fusion”.

    “The underlying political science of fusion voting is that it gives third parties a chance to show their strength by demonstrating how many votes they collect on their ballot line. The theory is that candidates will know how much support they got from that party, and be accountable to it.”

    But it would require convincing the state to change election law to allow other parties to flourish by allowing them to throw their weight behind another party’s candidate. And yes, that means that allowing social conservatives to splinter from the GOP wouldn’t damage the GOP too much either.

  • Another reason the Christian Right might be panicing is that most Americans don’t seem to agree with them on most issues. Take a look at the last election. Some of the worst conservative performers were associated with the relgions right.

  • The problem with the Theocratic Reactionaries is they are not the money of the Republican’t party, they are the foot soldiers. The money comes from the chamber of commerce conservatives. Sadly, they need each other to overcome their basic lack of appeal to 48% of the American Public.

    Believe me, their negatives make Hillary look positively Bill-like.

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