Let’s define ‘open-ended’

Over the last year or so, one of the more effective Democratic criticisms of the handling of the war is GOP support for an “open-ended” conflict. Dems would propose a timeline; Republicans would say that was “cutting and running.” Dems would propose genuine benchmarks; Republicans would say that’s “cutting and running,” too.

But if war supporters reject timelines, reject benchmarks, reject withdrawal, reject redeployment, and insist that U.S. forces have to stay in Iraq until we achieve some kind of hard-to-define “victory,” then they, practically by definition, support an open-ended conflict. In other words, given their vision of the war, we’re in Iraq for the indefinite future.

I’m beginning to think, however, that the notion of an open-ended war polled a little too well for Democrats, because the GOP is now rejecting the notion forcefully. Consider this line from the president’s speech last night:

“I’ve made it clear to the Prime Minister and Iraq’s other leaders that America’s commitment is not open-ended.”

It’s a phrase that’s come to dominate news coverage over the last 18 hours. On MSNBC last night, Tim Russert, who was part of a small group of journalists who met with Bush in the White House before the president’s address, told viewers, “[N]o more are we going to hear ‘we’re going to stay until victory’ or ‘we’re going to achieve this mission, we’re not going to leave until we’ve achieved that result’. This is not an open-ended commitment.”

I checked Google News with the words Bush, Iraq, and open-ended, and come up with over 4,000 results.

With this in mind, it’s a shame Bush’s comments were wholly, obviously, untrue.

Putting the politics aside, what exactly is an “open-ended commitment”? It’s a commitment without a determined end; one that could last indefinitely.

In the context of the war, the vast majority of Americans, including most of Congress, aren’t at all comfortable with the notion of the United States being in Iraq indefinitely. Even conservatives want to see a light at the end of the tunnel. The idea that U.S. troops could still be fighting in the streets of Baghdad in 2012, costing the nation thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, is so offensive as to be absurd.

So, Bush wants everyone to know that “America’s commitment is not open-ended.” Except it’s absolutely open-ended.

You heard the speech; when does this conflict end? When Iraq can sustain, govern, and defend itself? When the mission is successful? When Maliki gets Iraq under control? No one knows when that will, or even could, happen. And yet, as far as Bush, McCain, and Lieberman are concerned, we can’t leave until it does. By any reasonable definition of the phrase, that is, of course, an open-ended commitment. To suggest otherwise is to turn the meaning of the phrase on its head.

If this debate is going to have any intellectual seriousness to it, war supporters have to admit the obvious. A few days ago, on Meet the Press, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a supporter of escalation, was at least honest about it.

Graham: We should try to win this war. And the day you say we’re going to withdraw — three months, six months, a year from now — the effect will be that the militants will be emboldened, the moderates will be frozen, and we will have sent the message to the wrong people. Who started this…

Russert: So we’re stuck there forever.

Graham: Well, you stay there with a purpose to win.

In other words, given this worldview, we very well may be stuck there forever.

If that’s the thinking behind the policy, admit it and subject it to public scrutiny. To tell the nation, as Bush did last night, that under the administration’s approach, “America’s commitment is not open-ended,” is just dishonest. It suggests some focus group responded well to the phrase, so it made the speech.

That doesn’t make it true.

Dear George,

You did it! I’m so proud of you. You said you would create a thriving democracy in Iraq and you’ve done it magnificently. Job well done. Gimme a hug. Now just go ahead and bring our victorious troops home and let the Iraqis work out whatever trivial problems remain. Those quibbles are beneath your attention. Bring the troops home come out and have a big group hug with America.You are out proudest son.

Sincerely,
Dale

  • Which is why every Dem within striking distance of a microphone today and for an open-ended period of time should refer to this as a “stay-the-course without end” strategy — note that the McCain/Bush doctrine is simply to replace the lost sons and daughters with fresh troops that will allow us to stay indefintely despite taking thousands of casualties for a war no one can even explain now that WMD were never found, Hussein is dead, and it is clear that we were not greeted as liberators nor is democracy flourishing across a region that has harbored wars for millenia before we arrived.

    That should hit about every theme certain to remind the public how much they dislike this war.

  • Hannity/Limbaugh, etc., are desperate to find some way to hang this on the Dems which shows just how pathological they are.

    It’s actually interesting how quickly they have flip-flopped into “we’re not winning the war.” I thought that was all the liberal media?

  • Nice piece, CB. I love how “answered” Russert:

    Russert: So we’re stuck there forever.
    Graham: Well, you stay there with a purpose to win.

    In other words, “you got me there, Tim, but I’ll never admit it so let me just change the subject.”

  • Bush and Graham still think that if we wish hard enough we might find the pony. To fail to find the pony would be a tragedy. The dead pony laying at their feet, and the flies swarming around it, are besides the point.

    Anyone who’s surprised by this administration raping the English language please stand up.

  • I’m not saying I can read George Walker Bush’s mind (or that he even has one to read), but it’ is fairly easy to read the Neo-Cons’ intentions, and that may be more important. Go to the homepage of the Project for a New American Century. It’s a blueprint, from before Bush’s “election” in 2000, for the invasion, conquest and ownership of most of the oil reserves in the world. I’d call that pretty “open-ended”.

    Envisioned were a “Pearl Harbor like” attack on the US (think 9/11), building many US military bases and a huge embassy in Iraq and seizing its oil, using that as a base for taking on Iran and Syria, and so on. Signers of the “Statement of Principles” included Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter , Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel , Paul Wolfowitz

  • But you can see he can say it isn’t open ended and it won’t matter, because he is out of office when this term is up at which point he can stop pretending to care.

  • I get the feeling “open ended” is a synonym for one-sided in Bush-ese. When Bush says our commitment is not open-ended, he is saying he wants a quid pro quo. We did our thing thing for Iraq, now where’s the stuff we want from you. W is getting impatient with the Iraqis because they are not fulfilling Bush’s wish and producing the pony for all the pikes of sh*t our soldiers have waded through.

  • CB, we can only hope that the Dems take your heading very literally in the political arena: Let us define “open-ended.”

  • The worst part is that the “stuck there forever” course can probably be imposed by simply dragging (attacking) Syria or Iran into the mess. We all noticed the fear/security gambit was trotted out again last night probably with that scenario in mind. For the Bushies, permanent military bases (oil drilling support #8, Ed Stephan) would be justified and it also would effectively destroy the partitioning idea advanced by so many, including Biden.

  • I #8 I left out a reference to the specific report in which a “Pearl Habor like” event was mentioned as a prelude for speedily invading and taking over Iraq and the Middle East. It’s PNAC’s publication “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces, & Resources for a New Century”. It’s a PDF file. Go there, enter “Pearl Harbor” in the search window, and you’ll be taken to page 51. For further discussion and other sources go to What is PNAC, a page set up by Democrats.com.

  • CB I think you are reading BG2 wrong. The 21,750 more troops are not an “open-ended commitment”. They are there to force the Iraqi Government to send their own army and police into Baghdad (pretty miserable government that doesn’t want to at least control its capital. Karzi at least controls Kabul). Once Baghdad is stable, BG2 can take his 21,750 more troops out (or at least 17,750 of them, the rest being in Anbar) and the SURGE, which is the temporary commitment, will be over.

    The rest of the guys are stuck of course.

  • I had heard of the organization and knew generally what their basic core beliefs were, but I encourage everyone to go the the websites referenced by Ed Stephan, and see what PNAC is up to, and how long they have been up to it. The website is really shocking if you, like me, have never visited it before. It’s worth looking at. These people are scarey and it goes to show how stupid smart people can be.

    However I did notice that they haven’t posted anything since 1995.

  • Kids tapping water in a basin to make it lie flat. The harder you tap the rougher it gets, endlessly.

    Since its origin is in flat lies, more lies won’t help.

    No open-ended commitment to liars, cheats, scoundrels, thieves, zealots, fanatics and criminals, à la White House “fact sheet”:

    3. Isolate extremists; [as in BooschGang]

    and

    4. Create space for political progress; [as in revisit AUMF 2002]

  • #14 – Lance, you are reading CB wrong; When BG2 said “open ended commitment”, he meant the entire American commitment, not the 21,750. So CB is right in saying the commitment IS open-ended.

    (Either that or you’re being whimsical.)

  • Ed–
    I’ve had that site bookmarked since before Iraq. At first I thought it was a joke. It’s not.

    What’s stunning to me is:

    1. It’s still out there—Someone has to be upping the domain and paying for server space. With plans so transparent, I’m shocked they haven’t taken it down and tried to wipe away any trace of its existence.

    2. The corporate media has never mentioned it—Stephen Colbert asked Kristol about it a while back (he said, “How’s that new American century going?”), and Kristol squirmed in his chair … but said he thought it was going great. Fucking asshole. But the fact that the no one else has hammered them with this is shocking. Maybe they think it’s all a conspiracy.

    3. There’s also a section about dominating space militarily—Wasn’t there some doctrine put forth recently about wanting to defend our military assets in outer space, along with Air Force requests for some space-based weapons … ?

    While I still don’t buy the whole “9/11 was an inside job” theory in any way, shape or form, I can buy the fact that they knew about 9/11 and just let it happen (similar to reports about FDR and Pearl Harbor).

    Regardless, it’s spooky …

  • Maybe our noses are still too close to the glass to see a long-scale perspective (some of us, most of us, all of us?). Unholy Moses’ mention of FDR and Pearl Harbour gave me the thought, which actually makes me want to throw up, that attempting to combat and curtail Muslim extremism has validity. Not the moment to go into that but, if it hadn’t been for Pearl Harbour, the Western World as we know it would now be a huge Nazi colony. Not a pretty thought. So, undoubtedly, Japan did us all a great favor, in the long run.

    Will future generations have a similar view of 9/11?

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