About the Iraqis supporting Bush’s escalation…

Based on the White House’s description of the president’s “new way forward,” the bulk of the initiative is dependent on Iraqi officials following through on Bush’s policy agenda. The New York Times had a good item today highlighting a small flaw in the plan: Iraqi officials don’t seem to care for Bush’s policy agenda at all.

American military officials have spent days huddled in meetings with Iraqi officers in a race to turn blueprints drawn up in Washington into a plan that will work on the ground in Baghdad. With the first American and Iraqi units dedicated to the plan due to be in place within weeks, time is short for setting details of what American officers view as the decisive battle of the war.

But the signs so far have unnerved some Americans working on the plan, who have described a web of problems — ranging from a contested chain of command to how to protect American troops deployed in some of Baghdad’s most dangerous districts — that some fear could hobble the effort before it begins.

I don’t mean to sound picky, but shouldn’t the administration have ironed out some of these details before the president announced what would happen? If the U.S. is dependent on Iraqis buying into the plan, and Iraqis aren’t, why unveil a “new way forward” that may not be able to leave the starting gate?

Reading the Times piece, one wonders if anyone in Iraq is ready to line up behind Bush’s approach.

Shiites remain a problem.

First among the American concerns is a Shiite-led government that has been so dogmatic in its attitude that the Americans worry that they will be frustrated in their aim of cracking down equally on Shiite and Sunni extremists, a strategy President Bush has declared central to the plan.

“We are implementing a strategy to embolden a government that is actually part of the problem,” said an American military official in Baghdad involved in talks over the plan. “We are being played like a pawn.” […]

The plan gives a central role to the National Police, viewed as widely infiltrated by Shiite militias and, despite an intensive American retraining program, still suspected of a strongly Shiite sectarian bias. One American officer said that the National Police commanders have been “dragging their feet” over their role in the new plan and that they could seriously compromise the operation.

For that matter, as Steve M. noted, the Sunnis aren’t happy…

President Bush’s plan to send 21,500 more troops to Iraq has inflamed passions among the restive Sunni Arab minority, bringing new recruits to insurgent cells and outpourings of popular anger toward the U.S., the spokesman for the country’s most hard-line Sunni clerical group declared Sunday.

“Iraq is like a fire,” said Mohammed Bashar Faidi, spokesman for the Muslim Scholars Assn. “Instead of putting water on the fire, Bush is pouring gasoline.” […]

Faidi said Bush’s calls for increased troops had only roused suspicions of imminent offensives on Sunni districts of Baghdad and Al Anbar province and spurred a sudden “mobilization” among Sunnis, according to clerics and prayer leaders who contacted him by telephone from Iraq.

…and neither are the Kurds.

The arrest of the Iranians by U.S. forces at a liaison office in the northern city of Irbil last week exposed a growing rift…. Kurdish legislators condemned the raid as illegal. […]

Although the Iranians were not accredited diplomats, they worked in a well-known office, approved by the Kurdish regional government, that offers consular services and is on its way to gaining accreditation as a formal consulate….

Kurdish officials said the United States should have contacted the regional government before launching the raid.

It’s quite a plan, isn’t it? Bush told 60 Minutes last night, “I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude and I believe most Iraqis express that.” I guess it depends on what the president means by “most.”

We’re a ship of idiots for contuning to give the drunken captain chance after chance after chance. It’s time to toss him to sharks and turn the fucking boat around already.

We’re way way past “gotcha” as in “gee Bush said X, but in reality Y…”

Duh. We shouldn’t be analyzing what this monster says anymore. You can play “gotcha” with Bush’s words all we want. He doesn’t care.

Bush is lying. Bush is wrong. It’s been established a thousand million times! We’re going to be a bunch of clever statement parcers who live in the smoldering runis of a once great nation if we don’t take Bush AND Cheney down. Now. 1/20/9 isn’t soon enough.

Did anyone see Hagel on Chuck Rose the other day? I have yet to hear a Democrat raise the alarm in such start terms.

  • I read some of Burns’ article in the NYTimes late last night…woke up to see the headlines about another botched execution for Saddam’s half brother…all this is in addition to Bush’s recent provocations against Iran – it begs the question: do we really have the luxury of sticking with Bush for another 2 years???

    Surely the Dem’s understand that Bush is a rogue president at this point…and apparently at least about 10 Republican Senators have left Bush’s camp also…so maybe we’re about 6 Republican Senators short of conviction after impeachment????

  • Bush is the dean of the hedge fund school of foreign relations. The premise is to take the contrarian view of world politics and invest heavily in it so in case the entire rest of the world is wrong it will pay off big dividends.

    Or maybe he’s the dean of the missionary school of foreign diplomacy which postulates the ignorant little locals that needed saving in the first place will of course hate everything you do, but once you forcefully shove your beliefs far enough down their throats they’ll have to swallow it.

    Whatever he’s doing it’s one messed up school of thought.

  • Well, hey, the only groups who don’t support us are the Shiites, the Sunnis and Kurds, right? As long as God’s on the Deciderator’s side, who cares?

  • Bush delayed his escalation roll-out for close to a month so he could ‘gather a variety of opinions’. So far he’s rejected the opinions of:
    The Iraq Study Group
    Pentagon Brass
    Congress
    The American people
    The Iraq “government”
    It’s beginning to look like Bush’s ‘listening tour’ was a long walk with Barney.
    We are ruled by a buffoon.

  • Haik @ 1 writes, “We shouldn’t be analyzing what this monster says anymore. You can play “gotcha” with Bush’s words all we want. He doesn’t care.”

    Two timely points Bush and the entire R noise machine have done a very effective job of keeping opposition distracted by their constant lies and distorions while they move forward with their larger agenda. It is the tactical implementation of their strategy to “create new realties.” Getting in a tizzy about the latest falsehood is futile because the Rs will never stop. All we’ll end up getting for our efforts is ulcers. It’s time to start thinking as Ed did earlier this morning when he shot down the presumption that we are in a war. My buggaboo is the idea that terrorists are under every rock and that this is the struggle of our times. Terrorists are not t everywhere.

    Haik’s point that “He (Bush) doesn’t care,” is another worth remembering. He is not going to stop doing what he wants to do until someone stops him. That is what America needs to focus on — stoppiing him.

  • When the Iraqi militia turns their guns on our troops and declares war against us, can we officially call this war lost? Because that’s where we are headed. Maybe that’s what Bush wants, though. Give them the courage, training, and anger to stand up against us.

  • I’m shocked, shocked! that the administration could have chosen a course that knowledgeable people could tell them won’t work and will only make an enormous mess. When has the administration ever done anything like that before???

    I do appreciate John Burns documenting it all, so that in the future historians can wonder, why, if they knew all that in advance, did they go ahead, over and over and over. It will be the lasting question, Bush’s historical legacy.

  • Gee, you don’t think Cheney’s “Solution” (Kill the Sunnis) would have anything to do with Sunnis flocking to take up arms, do ya?

    Nah, it must be that the Sunnis really are all bad guys, therefore it is OK to slaughter them like rats.

    Genocide? Oh no, just Democracy on the March.

  • How high does the price of a barrel of oil have to go before this makes any sense at all?

    We can no longer commit enough resources to win, that budget was handed to the cronies in bags of unmarked bills; we have no allies supporting our efforts; have we identified anyone equivelant to T. Jefferson, T. Paine, A. Hamilton, G. Washington, or B. Franklin in Iraq. Do they have any founding fathers, committed to the idea of a representative democracy?

    Maybe Bush is counting on Global Warming rendering the place uninhabitable, Iran and Syria too.

  • bc, “Global Warming” can be artificially induced. Think “Hiroshima.” We are, it seems, moving toward the very real possibility of finding out what happens when a tyrant experiences the “cornered rat” syndrome—and possesses a huge nuclear stockpile. The world is so concerned about Iran possibly acquiring “one” bomb. Imagine such an individual with his grubby paws on several thousand—and a “base” who collectively believes that the world must end in fire, as a prerequisite to their spiritual salvation.

    The Islamic Fundamentalist is a rank amateur, when compared to the Neoconservative madnesses of their “Prophet….”

  • “Have we identified anyone equivelant to T. Jefferson, T. Paine, A. Hamilton, G. Washington, or B. Franklin in Iraq.”

    Yeah, I think they were in the group of 24 bodies dumped outside Baghdad a few weeks ago, all bound and shot execution style, some with signs of torture.

    I think it was Time or Newsweek who interviewed Gen. Petraeus a while back adn he was asked roughly the same question, though his remarks were that if there were men like that in Iraq Saddam would have shot them.

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