A conservative take on the left’s ‘denial’

Over at my other gig, I highlight about a dozen conservative blog posts a day, some of which are written by smart, engaging people with whom I generally disagree (such as James Joyner), though most are from writers who I find offensive and distasteful. In all, I probably go through 30 or so conservative blogs a day, which can be challenging for reasons that have nothing to do with time and everything to do with content.

As a rule, I resist the temptation to do posts here about the items I find on these far-right sites, but once in a while, I just can’t resist. Take this post, for example.

Dr. Sanity, as I understand it, has a professional background in psychiatry, and frequently incorporates this training into her unusually “aggressive” posts about how the left is made up of unpatriotic terrorist-loving traitors. Dr. Sanity writes very well, composes even longer posts than mine, and creates pieces that are quite readable, just so long as you’re willing to be amazed by how much she literally despises those with whom she disagrees.

Today’s post about the left’s “denial” was particularly striking. As she sees it, we have “created and fully integrated specific ideological tools that facilitate ongoing psychological denial.”

It reminds me of all the paranoid patients I have observed over the years, who effortlessly are able to dismiss or explain away those facts that don’t fit in with their carefully constructed conspiracy theories. If you get too assertive in pointing out those uncomfortable facts, you find yourself in no time fully integrated into the theory. For the paranoid, the case is closed and the argument is finished.

The political left has been utilizing the same psychological strategies inherent in the paranoid style since the end of the cold war and the 20th century…. This is what makes it so frustrating to debate or argue with today’s typical postmodern leftist. Some are willing to engage in discussion, but you can always count on their complete dismissal of any fact that does not conform to their ideological perspective. No matter how many times you debunk their position (e.g., no matter how many times evidence of Saddam’s WMD’s are found and documented; that evidence has been either ignored or poo-pooed using a variety of rationalizations — and the goalposts are then changed to ensure the safety of the denial).

When it suits their purposes (i.e., when they are losing the argument), they will resort to the claim that reality and truth are merely subjective constructs anyway, and that any evidence you present is only someone’s “opinion” and that their opinions are as good as anyone else’s.

Yes, as proof of our “denial,” Dr. Sanity points to Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction. Seriously.

I don’t have anything to add to this — I think Dr. Sanity’s post speaks for itself — but I think it’s helpful to consider, from time to time, just what our friendly rivals on the other side are thinking.

I read thru the comments on her posting.

Here is my Fav:
“There’s a nice lady in my neighborhood who used to be a psychiatrist before she began to hear voices from outer space. Now when anybody tries to reason with her, she diagnoses them as in denial about the evil vibrations that are affecting them, too. See, you aren’t even an original!

The most amazing delusion floating around this site is the notion, admittedly common among rightwingers, that people who disagree with them share some sort of uniform postmodern leftist ideology when, at least by now, a clear majority of Americans oppose the war. Even at the beginning of the affair, opponents of the invasion were all over the place politically. As a relentless reader of blogs, I’d say that the center of gravity of the opposition was actually pretty centrists, as these positions are usually defined. Which is to say that your enemy is America itself.”

Dr Sanity? Dr Projection, more like it.

  • The right calls it: “fully integrated specific ideological tools that facilitate ongoing psychological denial.”

    We call it: Truthiness

    Moral of the story – Wit has a liberal bias.

  • (e.g., no matter how many times evidence of Saddam’s WMD’s are found and documented; that evidence has been either ignored or poo-pooed using a variety of rationalizations — and the goalposts are then changed to ensure the safety of the denial).

    It’s not a good idea to refer to something that hasn’t occurred as proof that your opponents are in denial. You know, because that shows you are in denial.

  • “It reminds me of all the paranoid patients I have observed over the years, who effortlessly are able to dismiss or explain away those facts that don’t fit in with their carefully constructed conspiracy theories.”

    Let’s think about who best fits the above description…

    Choose as many as apply:
    A) Dick Cheney
    B) Geo. Bush
    C) Donald Rumsfeld
    D) Alberto Gonzales
    E) Ed Norton from Fight Club
    F) The North Hollywood Tin-foil Hat Society

    Dr. Sanity? That name is made up right? I wonder if she knows my proctologist Dr.Coldfinger, or my garbage man Mr.Rubbish, or my priest Father Holy-Ghost.

    CB, I’m glad you read that crap so we don’t have to!

  • I just went to her web site. Ouch. Based on her picture she reminds me of those wacko’s in the Christian Fellowship club in highschool. BTW assuming that the picture on her blog is from her at work, it looks like she works as a 911 operator or something. I wonder what her “background in psychiatry” means. Could it be perhaps that she has spent large amounts of time in institutions herself?

  • For someone who follows an ideology based on the very premise of ignoring facts, that post was pretty amazing. And the WMD angle is just … wow.

    To repeat a line I keep having to use for those on the right: If she projected any more, she’d be a PowerPoint presentation.

  • I’ve noticed a pattern, where whenever a critique starts to gain credence, conservatives attack liberals for the same thing. First of all, this requires any host who wants to talk about it to include the other side, so that it’s not a fault of the right, but an exchange of accusations. There are now books about the liberal abuse of science, for instance, so Chris Mooney will always have a counterpoint.

    I’m a bit surprised the reality-impaired charge hasn’t been slung back at us more. The angry, partisan, Bush-hating stuff has (projecting their blind Clinton hatred onto us), but not the pre-emptive, both sides are in denial stuff. Must be hard to even fabricate examples.

  • Irony is not dead. OK, maybe it died of laughter and overexertion.

    “…no matter how many times evidence of Saddam’s WMD’s are found and documented; that evidence has been either ignored or poo-pooed using a variety of rationalizations…”

    Translation: “screw rationalism. And poo-pooing is not rational, so that explains why I am so chock full of shit.”

    These people would be a lot funnier if there were fewer of them.

  • Check out the wingnut source for the Dr. Insanity post under Myth 5 – The Invasion Was a Failure.

    Apparently the invasion was a great success and has only gone off track because:

    “Few expected the Sunni Arabs to be so stupid. There’s a lesson to be learned there.”

    So – a guess the wingnut lesson to be learned is to only start wars of choice in countries where the people are a bit smarter.

    But as it is there is violence in Iraq and half of the grand public spaces in Baghdad have not (yet) been renamed in honor of GWB – solely because the locals were just so dern stoopid.

  • Dr. Sanity writes very well, composes even longer posts than mine, and creates pieces that are quite readable, . .

    I disagree with points one and three, but would agree that Dr. Sanity is challenging Jeff Goldstein for some kind of verblogosity prize. Carpetbagger Report entries are models of conciseness and thoughtful expression, seriously.

  • Wow! She does look like a 911 opperator. Hard to believe we live on the same planet. Perhaps all of these quantum physics people are right and there is a parrallel universe. I guess she lives there.

  • I have to agree with #13 — to think that your posts are long is a bit silly.

    Sure, they’re not the “Indeed” Instacracker type, nor the 30-word Atrios type (when he get longwinded), but they’re not the “Unholy Moses re-creates War and Peace three to four times a week” type, either. In fact, I’d call them the Three Little Bears type — not too long, not too short, but just right.

    /buttkissing

    🙂

  • You gotta figure she’s playing to her audience – each and every one of which are nut jobs who need to feel validated just as much as anyone else. When all you watch is FoxNews and you get your other “news” from Rush, WorldNetDaily, Insight, etc. and then constantly validate your beliefs/opinions on right wing sites – what exactly *is* and *isn’t* truth? There people heard/saw Rick Santorum get up last year and say that Saddam’s weapons had been found. They then heard Rush, say it also, and then read all about on any number of rightwing websites. They’ve been convinced that the MSM is all “liberal bias”, so they pay attention to any other different story that contradicts the right wing version. So what reason would they have to believe otherwise? This “Dr Sanity” person is playing them like a fiddle, if you don’t know that projection is projection, there’s no reason not to believe it’s the truth, because it all, for some reason seems familiar and makes sense.

    My father has an old suitcase that he keeps from when he was a young man, that had all kinds of anti-Jewish conspiracy stuff and neo-nazi propaganda from when he was a young man in the 50s. That kind of stuff has always been out there, and there will always be people who for some reason want to believe “alternative” (I’m putting it nicely) takes on what’s going on in the world. The idea that it’s all someone else’s fault and that you’re a victim is incredibly comforting to a lot of people. The difference betweeen now and the 50s is that my father’s stuff was all underground, and most people didn’t see it or know that it existed. Now, on the ‘Net, it, along with all it’s support apperatus such as Dr Sanity, is clearly visibile to all.

    I do find it interesting that she attributes her problems with the Left to “after the Cold War” – as if these people haven’t hated us forever. But the bar is moving forward and that makes me feel old.

  • These people would be a lot funnier if there were fewer of them.

    Comment by Racerx — 1/29/2007 @ 2:39 pm

    And if fewer people actually believed them.

  • I had to go take a look, just to be sure her initials were not I.N. I guess we can expect her to pick up the Presidential Medal of Freedom any time now. It’s a good thing the Vice-President doesn’t have his own gong to hand around: the Dementia Cross, perhaps, with annual stars for institutional time accumulated. Somebody is going have to keep an eye on the remaining Nuthouse Refugees until 2008, when they should be rendered harmless. Until then, watch for signs such as public disrobing and exclamations like, “What was that purple flash? I smell bacon!!” followed by collapse, twitching and moaning.

    The sad thing is that these people will ALWAYS believe they were right, and no amount of Congressional Hearings or investigative reports will convince them the left did not conspire in a gigantic plot to deny America what might have been its last chance for greatness.

  • I wonder if she knows my proctologist Dr.Coldfinger, or my garbage man Mr.Rubbish, or my priest Father Holy-Ghost.

    Not to stomp on your punchline, MNProgressive, but I’d like to mention that I just learned that my local fire department employs a forester named Barkwood.

  • Dr Dimbulb Projector: by the way, did you know that they [the lefties] are a community of “reality-based” people? Get that?

    Well, that’s what Bush’s people called us. They apparently thought it was funny.

    They [liberals] obsessively and repeatedly make sure you understand how loving and good they–always in contrast to the members of the political right who are always described as “hate-filled” (the right “hate” blacks; “hate” hispanics, “hate” women, “hate” gays, “hate” the poor etc. etc.).

    Cough. Yeah, Coulter is such an aberration with her talk of killing all the leaders of the muslim nations. And Limbaugh, nobody listens to that guy anymore. Who cares if he advocated blowing up the entire region? He didn’t mean do it in a hateful way.

    compulsive behavior … is not typically the behavior of a people who are entirely comfortable with who they are. Rather, from a psychological perspective, their behavior and the almost desperate need they exhibit to prove both you and to themselves that they ARE more caring, more sensitive, and more reality-based, suggests that they are trying to hide quite the opposite reality from themselves.

    Kinda like when someone desperately tries to prove that WMDs were found in Iraq, when even their favorite idiot leaders finally admitted that they never were? Like that kind of compulsive behavior? Or is it more like a preacher doing meth and banging a gay prostitute?

    Maybe like that.

    Dr Denial goes on…
    the Democrats and the left pretend that 9/11 never happened or that it was even historically important (just like Pearl Harbor wasn’t, I guess); don’t want to acknowledge that we are in a war at all; but yet fervently believe at the same time that we are to blame for bringing 9/11 on ourselves…

    Yeah, that Jerry Falwell guy, he is the worst Democrat ever. Blaming us for 9/11 and all that. Or maybe she means that Democrat Dinesh D’Souza? Oh wait, neither of them are Democrats. There must be some big-name Democrats who balme us for 9/11…

    [crickets]

  • Dr Insanity, in June of 2006:

    …Saddam Hussein’s regime was planning suicide attacks on U.S. interests six months before 9-11.

    Saddam, in a tape made in 2000, talks with Iraqi scientists about his plans to build a nuclear device. He discusses Iraq’s plasma separation program — an advanced uranium-enrichment technique completely missed by U.N. inspectors.

    …the data show clearly that despite the continued “quagmire” and “civil war/sectarian violence” memes, that fewer Iraqis and fewer Americans are being killed) …

    It’s like watching a demented person fighting off invisible animals. Hard to look at, but hard to look away.

  • I read a book years ago called Classical Rhetoric For the Modern Student. This is a recommendation, now, so you might want to check it out- I don’t doubt that Republicans who check out this blog probably will in greater numbers, while among the Democrats a few will probably say, “Yeah, well…” to yourselves and then just forget about it, since you’re all such infallible geniuses. Anyway, the book mentions that one technique people use to persuade each other is psycho-babble: except the way people use it is just as ad hominem as ad hominem.

    Think about it. As soon as someone starts using some pop psychology terms, you start believing them and thinking that anyone they’re talking about has a problem without checking out the credentials of the person who’s talking about them, or making any kind of independent assessment. This is because psychologists really carry such power over us in this day and age- they really are like a modern equivalent of a priest; people hold the profession and what it does in a kind of tacit awe. But don’t assume that everyone who starts using psycho-babble is correct or is even giving their diagnosis in good faith.

  • I’d hate to witness the screaming matches that must result when Dr. Sanity sees that delusional Democrat with the carefully constructed conspiracy theories staring back at her in the mirror every day. ” For the paranoid, the case is closed and the argument is finished.”

  • …the Democrats a few will probably say, “Yeah, well…” to yourselves and then just forget about it, since you’re all such infallible geniuses. Swan

    Hahaha. You expect people to listen to you while you insult them? You want some psychobable? Fine. What you just did was to create a self fulfilling prophecy.

    By insinuating in a demeaning way that your vastly superior intellect would be ignored by a self identifying group of people you have directly caused the result: none of them will listen to you.

  • Well, let’s take her top-10 list of denial out for a spin….

    1-No Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD).

    And this wench can tell us right where they are—right? I haven’t heard anyone come out and announce (1) their documented discovery, or even the long-overdue Cheneyism that their existence is a classified secret. Judging from the video that accompanied the arrival of US troops in Baghdad—you remember, the ones that showed the Iraqi Army’s top-line equipment as being rusted-out T-62, Kruschev-era Soviet battle tanks and transport vehicles that were leftovers from the Soviet’s entry into Berlin in 1945—I haven’t seen much in the way of WMD evidence. Well, there was that one clip showing a few rusty old cluster-shell casings, but that technology has existed since the cluster-canister days of the American Civil War. Not worth writing home about, let alone trying to jack up America’s fear-factor.

    2-The 2003 Invasion was Illegal.

    The 2003 invasion was justified through the use of invented evidence. In the US, intentionally taking action against people by intentionally employing fictitious evidence is referred to by such quaint terms as “Fraud” and “Forgery” and “Theft.” All three are felonies—thus, illegal.

    3-Sanctions were working.

    Sanctions were, indeed, working. The Baathist regime’s finances were cut off; they couldn’t mount any further actions against the southern or northern sections of the country, the WMD inspectors has conclusively done their jobs, and Iraq was ripe for a political implosion.

    4-Overthrowing Saddam Only Helped Iran.

    The only entity in the region capable of countering Iran at the time—if you’re willing to overlook the Israeli nuclear stockpile, the existencs of which Israel keeps denying—was Saddam. Or does Frau Santy deny the existence of that Rumsfeld/Saddam handshake photograph?

    5-The Invasion Was a Failure.

    Well, let’s see—the invasion wasn’t a failure for Halliburton, or Blackwater, or GE—but I don’t suppose that the political vacuum created by the invasion that has allowed a higher per-capita murder rate, a complete infrastructure collapse, and a worsening of inter-sect violence than at any point during the Baathist reign counts very much to a woman who claims that “it’s the other side that’s in denial!”—does it?

    6-The Invasion Helped Al Qaeda.

    Please let me know when the wingnuts provide even the tinyest shred of evidence that the invasion has somehow impeded Al Quaeda. We’ve somewhere over 135,000 troops in Iraqmost of whem are tied up in central urban encampments identical to the Beirut disaster of the ’80s that “should” be in Afghanistan right now, ripping Al Quaeda a new asshole. Instead, we’re playing whack-a-mole with the remnants of Saddam’s Republican Guards Divisions and a couple of weirdo clerics who have themselves a militia or two.

    7-Iraq Is In A State of Civil War.

    Iraq makes the storming of the Bastille, the Battles of 1st/2nd Manassass, the fall of the Romanov Dynasty, and the usual affections for the Cleveland Browns by the people of Northeast Ohio—in January, no less—look like a Sunday picnic in the middle of a surrealist pastoral scene—lots of droopy clock-faces and such.

    8-Iraqis Were Better Off Under Saddam.

    Well, they sure had a lot more electricity, water, bridges, hospitals, schools, marketplaces, and employment then, now didn’t they? Or is an Iraqi child who’s got an empty tummy and a father with a large-caliber exit wound in his forehead somehow better off?

    9-The Iraq War Caused Islamic Terrorism to Increase in Europe.

    Devoting a huge percentage of our international surveillance capabilities from Oh-Sammy and his fundie friends to look for non-existent boogeymen under the beds of Baghdad certainly didn’t DECREASE it—especially when Europe got stuck with the football we dropped in Afghanistan so we could go-a-nation-building in Iraq.

    10- The War in Iraq is Lost.

    There is absolutely no concrete evidence that it is being won, or that it can be won. Iraq is no less a meatgrinder today than was Japan 61 years ago. Truman (a Democrat, by the way) authorized the use of the atomic bomb in 1945, simply because he understood the obscene cost to America if Japan’s major metropolitan areas were to be taken by “conventional” means. There was even doubt among the senior military staff at the time that America could successfully invade the Japanese home islands—and the concerns were identical to what US forces face today in the streets of Iraq’s cities. Iraq cannot be bombed into submission; they cannot be subjugated with a mere third of the force-requirements that were recognized as insufficient almost 8 years ago—again, by a Democratic administration. Iraq is not winnable, nor is it open to “a draw.” Unless someone’s invented a fourth option, Iraq is lost—and it has brought military ruin to the current ground-force portion of America’s fighting capacity.

    Sorry for the long post, but it’s time to put this “Santy” myth out of existence….

  • Dr. heal thy self. I think it’s time for the Dr. to seek the help of her fellow psychiatrists and see what the diagnoses may be. Maybe some pill could clear the mind of it’s tin foil garbage.

  • LOL – Dr. Sanity made fun of the comments here in a post today.

    “. For more of the same kind of hate, you can also check out some of the comments to this post by those who only want an outlet for that hate coming via links from Daou Report and some blog called The Carpetbagger. Real classy, some of them.”

    I found a 6/05 interview of Dr. S. and her favorite website is the National Review’s The Corner. Ummm….now there’s an intellectually stimulating site.

    Message to Dr. S., You made the right move by staying out of private practice and sticking with clinical work. No one in his right mind would want to be your patient, you right wing headcase.

  • Hey, I think sanity’s on to something. Myth 1, no WMD in Iraq. Keerect, a myth. There were lots. That blinded-by-fantasies and left mouthpiece Duelfer said most were destroyed by 1995, by the Iraqis themselves. At least he saw they had the evil intentions with WMD.

    Damn leftists like William Safire and former Senator Riegel, they spouted all this paranoid “Iraqgate” nonsense: BNL, Kissinger Associates, Matrix Churchill, ag. credits, rice farmers, and anthrax-ridden English cows around WWII. Hell, if Bob Dole was such a huge fan of Iraq c. 1990, how could all that be true?

    And you know, it’s really deluded of the left to think the war was sold through Rendon, Curveball, and the “Winnebagoes of death” scenario.

    Oh, and sanity is RIGHT, the war was LEGAL!! As proclaimed by the British Parliament on March 17, 2003 in a watertight argument requiring that WMD ready to drop in 45 minutes be found. Good thing our ally Blair was able to put a chokehold on that Commie Lord Goldsmith in order to shut him up.

    So the sanity score is 100% on these accounts and the left is nothing more than a sack of hateful delusions. Case closed.

  • Owl at #33 can’t be serious … half of it makes no sense, and the other half can be easily refuted by spending about 20 seconds with teh Google.

    Oh, and CB’s Technorati rank is like 700-something. I’d be any amount of money that Dr. Sanity the Medical Receptionist Who Acts Like She Has a Degree ranks much, much, much lower. So her attempt to make CB look like a blogging nobody is, ironically enough, clinically insane …

  • Don’t take it so seriously…it’s meant to look a bit deranged from their side.
    –Owl

    Oh thank gawd … for a while there I thought you needed to up your meds.

    🙂

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