GOP obstructionism continues, filibuster blocks Senate vote on resolution

On Feb. 5, when the Senate was poised to consider a resolution opposed to the president’s escalation strategy, a Republican filibuster blocked the debate before the debate. Dems stuck together, and two Republicans (Sens. Norm Coleman of Minnesota and Susan Collins of Maine) joined the majority against the filibuster. It was well short of the 60 votes needed.

Today, yet another Republican filibuster blocked debate over the non-binding measure, but instead of two GOP votes, Dems picked up seven.

Senate Democrats failed to garner the necessary 60 votes they needed to consider a nonbinding resolution that opposes President Bush’s plan to send more troops to Iraq.

The vote was 56-34, with seven Republicans crossing the aisle to vote with senators who oppose the troop buildup. Sixty votes were needed for passage.

The Democratic-controlled House passed a nonbinding resolution Friday rebuking the plan to send 21,500 additional troops to Iraq.

“We are policing a civil war in Iraq,” Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said before the vote. “American troops should not be in the middle of that war.” He added, “The president’s escalation is misguided, to put it kindly.”

The seven Republican senators who broke ranks were Sens. John W. Warner (Va.), Chuck Hagel (Neb.), Norm Coleman (Minn.), Gordon Smith (Ore.), Olympia Snowe (Me.), Arlen Specter (Pa.) and Susan M. Collins (Me.).

For those of you keeping score at home, four of the seven (Warner, Coleman, Smith, and Collins) are up for re-election in 2008.

Harry Reid’s statement on the floor was pretty good today, and I’ve included it after the jump.

“Mr. President, it’s rare for the Senate to hold a Saturday vote but the issue before us is too important to wait.

“There are challenges facing America today, but there is no greater challenge facing America today than finding a new direction in Iraq. And every Senator in this Chamber has a responsibility and an obligation to say whether they support or oppose the President’s plan to escalate the war.

“The House of Representatives has already acted – 246-182.

“Now, it’s the Senate’s turn to give advice to the President – – that he is wrong in sending tens of thousands more American soldiers to a Civil War in far away Iraq.

“In a few moments, a vote will occur on a straightforward resolution, which simply states: we support our troops and oppose escalation of the intractable Iraq war.

“My colleagues on the other side of this chamber – colleagues who blocked an Iraq debate last week – have a choice to make: Do they intend to join the American people in opposing more of the same in Iraq, or do they intend to continue to give the President a green light to escalate the war?

“Let the debate proceed. Let the Senate express its views on the issue of our times.

“This month, the Iraq war has cost – on average -the lives of three American soldiers every day – – putting us on pace for the bloodiest February since the war began. It is threatening our nation’s strategic interests… and risking our nation’s security.

“To date, America has lost 3,133 soldiers in the streets and highways of Iraq… We’ve seen tens-of-thousands more wounded… The war has strained our military, and depleted our Treasury of almost $500 billion dollars. Iraqis are dying at a rate of 100 a day in a vicious sectarian civil war. 2 million Iraqis have fled their own country.

“By every measure, the administration’s failures have put us in a deep hole in Iraq. Yet, the President’s new… old plan – escalation… more of the same – won’t get us out of the hole, it will only dig it deeper.

“Our generals, the Iraq Study Group, and the Iraqis themselves have told us escalation will only make Iraq worse … intensify our costs… and require even greater sacrifices from American troops – – many of whom are being sent to Baghdad without the proper armor… and equipment… and training they need.

“On this issue – escalation… more of the same – the Senate must speak.

“The Senate – – on behalf of the American people – – must make it clear to the Commander-in-Chief that he no longer has a rubber-stamp in Iraq. We must show the American people the United States Senate heard their message last November, and we, as Senators, are fighting for a new direction for the 134,000 troops already in Iraq and the up to 48,000 additional military personnel the President would send.

“The United States Senate owes as much to these soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. We must proceed with this debate, and change the course of a war that has now raged going into its 5th year.

“Mr. President, I know some of my Republican colleagues would like to cloud the debate.

“I know some of my Republican colleagues would like to delay the debate.

“I know some of my Republican colleagues would like to have no debate.

“Most of the Republican Minority wish to protect President Bush from an embarrassing vote. They are trying to divert attention from the issue at hand. They’d like to turn the Senate into a procedural quagmire. They want to hide behind weak and misleading arguments about the Senate’s rules, or a Senator’s right to offer amendments.

“These arguments are diversions.

“Today’s vote is about more than procedure. It’s an opportunity to send a powerful message – – the Senate will no longer sit on the sidelines while our troops police an ugly civil war in a nation far, far away.

“The issue before America today is escalation. That is why the Senate’s responsibility must be a vote on escalation – whether the so-called “surge” is supported or opposed.

“This is the choice – more war or less war.

“Mr. President, today, I applaud the courage of a few hearty Republicans who will vote cloture and allow this vote to occur

“As I said, most of the Republican Minority wish to protect President Bush from this vote. They intend to vote for what is best for their political party. But as President John F. Kennedy said: “Sometimes party loyalty asks too much.”

“Today in the United States Senate, Republican Party loyalty asks too much.

“In the Senate this Saturday… this February 17th… is the time for Senators to vote for openness… for transparency – – to show their constituents in all 50 states – do our Senators support or oppose sending up to 48,000 more U.S. soldiers and marines into the darkness of Iraq.

“During the week, we heard speeches about supporting our troops. The best way to support them is to ensure they have a strategy that will let them complete the mission, so they can come home.

“We need a new direction in Iraq. Escalation is not the answer. More of the same is not the answer. The answer is to tell the President – not more, but less war.

“I urge my colleagues to vote cloture, and thus vote to change course in this bloody war 7 thousands 500 miles from this Senate floor.”

Seven of them listened. It’s better than two, so I’ll call it progress.

According to the right-wing media (CNN and others), the vote is an attack on the president’s constitutional powers, in addition the the usual stale arguments. The Repug strategy now seems to be to cast themselves as preservers of the constitution! This hilarious stance might actually be working. Some polls are showing a slight softening regarding displeasure with the war.
Unless strong support is found for approaches such as Murtha’s, Bush won’t need to exercise a veto. The Senate will do the job for him for the next two years.

  • As far as this non-binding resolution is concerned, I say ‘Mission Accomplished.” Reid laid it out and then they voted. 34 Republicans voted for the war. See ya in Nov 08.

    We need a Dem senator to do an old-timey filibuster and talk about this war until the Republicans give in on cloture.

  • The Dems should have challenged the hell out of the Reps in the 109th with the filibuster.I don’t think they would have ever adopted the nuclear option and Alito may have been held up. Now we don’t have the votes to induce the nuclear option.

  • If 7 Repubs voted with the Dems – that means that only 49 Dems voted closure. Assuming 1 of those that didn’t was Lieberman, who is the other Dem?

  • One thing we shouldn’t forget is that — through the committees in both houses — the Dems are coming at the Republicans from all sides. With any luck, that will bring the kind of pressure that will change both public opinion and votes.

    I also think we should be supporting Murtha’s plan loudly and forcefully now.

  • i honestly do not understand the gop strategy here: why do they want to be on record opposing debate on iraq?

  • Re: #4 — the other Dem not voting with majority was Tim Johnson of South Dakota, who is still hospitalized.

  • Interesting tidbit on NPR just now. They were doing one of those “interview the local newspaper editor” pieces, specifically in the very Republican neighborhood of the South Carolina Senator who voted with the Democrats.

    You’d expect the blood to flow down there over his maverick stance, but no. Apparently, according to the editor, more and more “mainstream Republicans” will tend to agree with their senator. They’re “tired” of the war. They haven’t posted the audio yet, but when they do, you can find it here:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2

  • OK; so 9 Repubs didn’t vote. One was McCain. Who were the other weasels?

    – Bennett (R-UT)
    – Bond (R-MO)
    – Cochran (R-MS)
    – Corker (R-TN)
    – Ensign (R-NV)
    – Hatch (R-UT)
    – Johnson (D-SD)
    – Kyl (R-AZ)
    – McCain (R-AZ)
    – Murksowksi (R-AK)

    Both Arizona Senators sat out the vote bet their constituents are happy

  • dale is right. 34 republicans VOTED FOR THE WAR! that is what democrats should now be emphasizing….

  • Hagel is also up for reelection in 2008, although I don’t know of a Democrat in the state who could beat him.

    It will be very interesting to watch Coleman’s votes over the next 17 months. I haven’t seen any early polls, but I would imagine that Franken will have a difficult time defeating Coleman, especially if Coleman becomes less supportive of Bush.

  • PW, the South Carolina Republican you’re talking about is Rep. Bob Inglis, who voted with the Democrats in the House yesterday, not a senator. Here’s a more direct link which says the audio should be available in about 90 minutes.

  • ***For those of you keeping score at home, four of the seven (Warner, Coleman, Smith, and Collins) are up for re-election in 2008.***

    So is Voinovich (R-OH), and he has apparently decided to stifle debate on the issue. I think that ’08 is going to be a bad year for this particular “George….”

  • No, Steve, Voinovich isn’t up until 2010. I know because he was running in 2004 when I was working in Ohio to get out the vote for Kerry.

  • A debate “. . . full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Oh, well, as long as the Senators are posturing for Cspan, at least they are not passing any laws.

  • Interesting? If one considers a vote on cloture to represent a vote for the resolution, you have 56 percent in favor. The percentage voting for the House resolution was 57.5.

  • Who wants to bet that if Baghdad weren’t so quiet there’d be a different outcome? If things heat up again the Nay sayers will claim they didn’t want to appear unsupportive of the troops at a crucial moment in Der Surge or some such drivel. It really is sad to watch the rats who won’t leave the sinking USS BushBrat. [Insert Poop Deck joke here.]

  • Way to go, Connecticut, Lieberman voted against the measure. Nice work. Independent Democrat? Hardly.

  • “Maybe the Bush White House can’t conduct a war, but no one has ever impugned its ability to lie about its conduct of a war. Now even that well-earned reputation for flawless fictionalizing is coming undone. Watching the administration try to get its story straight about Iran’s role in Iraq last week was like watching third graders try to sidestep blame for misbehaving while the substitute teacher was on a bathroom break. The team that once sold the country smoking guns in the shape of mushroom clouds has completely lost its mojo.” – Frank Rich, “Oh What a Malleable War”

  • I posted this and have not been able to find where it actuially was posted to the comments section – If it was – reading it twice might not be a bad thing.

    I have read Dem and Rep comments and I can honestly say – this nation is in real trouble. We have our armed forces, the best in the world, fighting to protect the world – which we are a part of. Here in the United States Congress, we have two of the most powerful, professional (yea right) bodies of government in the world – playing games with their lives. Playing being legislator rather than being them. If you were one of the terrorist in Iraq wanting to kill our men and women, you would have to be smiling at how STUPID the USA government is. We openly tell the world that “If we are not winning in 30 days, we will pull our troups out” – Guess what Sen., that only gets them reinforcements to make sure the heat is on our troups – that only makes them more intent to withstand all we throw at them for 30 days and the expert (idiot) Senators and Congress will pull them out. How Stupid Can these experts really be – I am afraid to find out.

    Pulling our troups out – WOW – that really must make the Iraqi people that are helping us feel loyal to us – we want t o pull out our troups and leave them to the terrorist – Do you think they will get a medal from the Terrorists – about .13 worth I would bet – in the form of a bullet. Then the rest of the wourl could really feel good in the future when the United States of Cowards said they would help them. That is what the Dem Party is wanting us to become – The United Stares of Cowards!!!! This country is on a very fast track to being a third world country. Thanks to every republican that voted for the dems “to teach their republican party a lesson”. Words are cheap, Lies can generate instant new lies and the American People do not even bother to see if a persons past, lives up to their promises…. People do not change over night – Only their words – just to be elected – then they do what they want to.

    Loose tongues from the Dems in Washington is what’s getting our children killed in Iraq – they are giving the enemy support – telling them – we are doing all here that we can to help you win – NOT OUR TROUPS – the ones that are killing our troups. The Dems have even said – We agree that Iran should have N. W. The Big Bomb – It is ok that they want to kill every man woman and child in Israiel and the United States.

    2008 elections are more than for president. I want to find who voted in the games this week in Washington. I want to find out which Republicans did not support our troups winning the war. I want to contribute to their Republican challenger in their next election – BECAUSE I WANT TO HELP VOTE THEM OUT !!!! Our National Security Depends on it.

  • Why is a GOP vote to win the war and save the country of Iraq being obstuctionism? Why is putting an end to the terrorist there and in Iran a bad thing. If Dems would keep their comment within chambers and out of chambers – Keep Their Mouths Shut – More of our young Men and Women would still be alive.

    I sent a longer more Republican view but I guess at this time anyways, they chose not to publish it –

  • I have read Dem and Rep comments and I can honestly say – this nation is in real trouble. We have our armed forces, the best in the world, fighting to protect the world – which we are a part of. Here in the United States Congress, we have two of the most powerful, professional (yea right) bodies of government in the world – playing games with their lives. Playing being legislator rather than being them. If you were one of the terrorist in Iraq wanting to kill our men and women, you would have to be smiling at how STUPID the USA government is. We openly tell the world that “If we are not winning in 30 days, we will pull our troups out” – Guess what Sen., that only gets them reinforcements to make sure the heat is on our troups – that only makes them more intent to withstand all we throw at them for 30 days and the expert (idiot) Senators and Congress will pull them out. How Stupid Can these experts really be – I am afraid to find out.

  • Pulling our troups out – WOW – that really must make the Iraqi people that are helping us feel loyal to us – we want t o pull out our troups and leave them to the terrorist – Do you think they will get a medal from the Terrorists – about .13 worth I would bet – in the form of a bullet. Then the rest of the wourl could really feel good in the future when the United States of Cowards said they would help them. That is what the Dem Party is wanting us to become – The United Stares of Cowards!!!! This country is on a very fast track to being a third world country. Thanks to every republican that voted for the dems “to teach their republican party a lesson”. Words are cheap, Lies can generate instant new lies and the American People do not even bother to see if a persons past, lives up to their promises…. People do not change over night – Only their words – just to be elected – then they do what they want to.

    Loose tongues from the Dems in Washington is what’s getting our children killed in Iraq – they are giving the enemy support – telling them – we are doing all here that we can to help you win – NOT OUR TROUPS – the ones that are killing our troups. The Dems have even said – We agree that Iran should have N. W. The Big Bomb – It is ok that they want to kill every man woman and child in Israiel and the United States.

    2008 elections are more than for president. I want to find who voted in the games this week in Washington. I want to find out which Republicans did not support our troups winning the war. I want to contribute to their Republican challenger in their next election – BECAUSE I WANT TO HELP VOTE THEM OUT !!!! Our National Security Depends on it.

  • Yes, good ol’ Holy Joe the Fightin’ Israeli voted to let the president have his last orgasmic surge, before somebody with a few firing neurons left has to concede defeat. His home state must be so proud.

    The U.S. is indeed on track to being a third-world country, but that’s because of a president whose understanding of money is limited to pouring it by the bushel basketful down a dark hole. And if you want to support the troops, start by learning how to spell. The ecstatic cheers of illiterates are not what is needed now. How do you expect to convince people if you sound like you’re in grade six? I know, I know….somebody else who wasn’t so bright made it all the way to the White House, and now loses no opportunity to point out that smarts are not necessary to ascend to the highest office in the country. Believe me, that won’t happen again for another century or so.

  • rbennet, @ 20, 21 and 22:

    Kerry was right; education does matter and, if you don’t study hard, your options are severely limited. It looks like your only option — as well as inclination — is to support Bush’s “surge” *literally*. Go and volunteer, and save Iraq, Iran and US all in one fell swoop. And save us your illiterate drivel. Pfui; *my* English is better than yours, and I’m a foreigner

  • What rbennett needs is a gun, helmet and a two year vacation in Iraq courtesy of the US Army. This boy has got the spirit.

  • Re: #10 — Of the nine physically able Senators not bothering to stick around on Saturday, only one, Cochran of Mississippi, is up for re-election in 2008.

    Four are up in 2010: Bennett (UT), Bond (MO), McCain (AZ) and Murkowski (AK).

    Corker (TN), Ensign (NV), Hatch (UT) and Kyl (AZ) just began new terms.

  • Have you not been paying any attention at all? Why would you want to get more of our troops killed? We are not fighting terrorists in Iraq, we are refereeing a civil war. These are not terrorists but Sunnis and Shiahs and Kurds. The Taliban, who attacked us, are in Afghanistan increasing their power to attack us again. The majority in Iraq are Shiah who want us out of the way so they can destroy the Sunni. We are trying to set up a government that includes them both but so far the Sunnis see the US as only aiding the Shiah. Outside of Iran, the Sunnis are the majority in the region with a lot of support from Saudi Arabia. To make matters worse they are all either Persian or Arab and they are fighting each other. Confused Yet? Our troops are supposed to kill both Sunni and Shia which ever one attacks the other. (in other words …”shoot the one in the middle”) American Troops are being asked to stop the violence in the area no matter which group it comes from and you think we are abandoning who by cutting back troops? The terrorists are someplace else laughing at us and hoping we will do exactly what we are doing, being bogged down in Iraq where it doesn’t mater to them who gets killed because it is not them. And this is exactly what the GOP is doing in the senate–just keeping it bogged down by cowards who just want it all hush hush and not debated. We don’t want anymore of our troops sent into this quagmire. We want debate and discussion on how to leave this country without getting anymore of our troops killed. The people(63%), the congress, the Iraq study group, the National Intelligence Estimate and a large number of military experts are against the surge and are trying to send a strong message to Bush to get him to change direction in Iraq. It is at least important enough to DEBATE it, because Bush or rather the GOP, is not listening to anyone besides themselves. We are standing up because the lives of our troops are that important to us and you dare to call us cowards. You are the coward sir, for keeping your mouth shut and just going along in spite of the obvious signs of failure of the Bush policy only because of saving face. We had a lieutenant like that in Nam who told the Captain we would take that hill and after three attempts when all our brothers were killed trying and there were only four of us left and that hill was being reinforced by the enemy that lieutenant commanded us to charge the hill again and then had the nerve to call us cowards when we refused. Sometimes stupidity is deadly.

  • We need a Dem senator to do an old-timey filibuster and talk about this war until the Republicans give in on cloture.

    Dale, you may have something there. The Dems should put together a blow by blow history of this war, complete with audio-visual aids: Pictures of Abu Graib (in detail) with accompanying narration, the looting of the museums, the phony rescue of the girl soldier (what was her name again?), the rape and murder of the Iraqi teenager and her family, the carnage in Fallujah, every IED and downed chopper. Make it ugly, make it last day after day. We’ll see how long the goddamn Rethugs hold out. I’ll be Webb would volunteer for that duty.

  • “34 Republicans voted for the war. See ya in Nov 08.” –Dale

    On average, see 1/3 of ya in Nov 08, Dale!

    That ought to scare them.

    You want to know how to scare Republicans?

    Make the voting system fair.

    (“Oh my God, what if they force us to count ALL the black and Latino votes? We’re screwed!”)

  • Spoofer: rbennett
    Grade: C-

    Overall rbennett gives a very good imitation of the dedicated BushParrot (TM). However, in his/her attempts to make the character look ignorant he/she repeatedly mis-spells Troops but has no difficulty with words like Government or Congress. This is both sloppy and lazy. A real gung ho Bushophile would have Support our Troops ribbon stickers all over his car and so know how to spell the word. Real gung ho Bushophiles spell Government “Guvmint,” and Congress “Those fat greedy SOBs in Washington, Dee Cee.”

    Recommendation: Watch a few episodes of the Colbert Report to see how it is really done.

  • I’m reading “Osman’s Dream”, a history of the Ottoman Empire which once included Iraq. The Sunnis and the Shias have been killing each other since before the Empire was formed in the early 14th century.

  • This is a frequent theme with you, Fallenwoman. What are we supposed to infer from this repeated assertion? That it’s OK for Americans to kill them now? That they are uncivilized rabble whose lives don’t matter? Protestants and Catholics have been killing each other in Belfast lo these many years – is it time for American intervention in Ireland?

    It’s perfectly true that Muslim faiths in opposition have been doing each other in for many, many years. It is also true that darkish desert folk have a lot of ground to make up before they can come close to overall numbers killed, in the name of religion, by white Christians. Reading is good, but if you go into it with a narrow focus and a preformed conclusion, you are likely to form an opinion not much different from what you had before you cracked the covers.

    President Llndsay @ 28, that damsel in distress was Jessica Lynch. I’m not surprised you don’t remember – after some British networks referred to her “rescue”, half-admiringly, as “the biggest piece of stage-management in military history” (or words to that effect), it dropped out of sight real fast. It’s one of the myriad fabrications on the Iraq war that the Bush administration would be delighted to forget.

  • Fallenwomen is right – they’ve been fighting this war a long time and there is no reason for our Army to be caught in the middle of it. Bottom line is Bush made MANY mistakes and lost this war a year ago and now we’re just trying to get our troops moved out of the middle of a civil war. It’s time to change directions and figure out how to salvage something from the President’s quagmire.

    The ISG was the President’s own experts providing specific guidance on how to fix this mess. Why the Repubs and the MSM is giving the President a free pass to do exactly the opposite of what his own experts recommended is beyond the pale. He has not demonstrated the competence to get this job done. There are plans which remove our troops from the fighting while still being able to support Iraq as a country i.e. protect the borders.

    The debate in Washington does not order troops over to Iraq for the third or fourth time (for the third or fourth surge) to get them killed, the C-in-C is doing that. Along with inadequate body armor, not enough armored vehicles and lack of training. Murtha is trying to fix this, but will probably be blocked by the Repubs who seem more than willing to continue to send troops into harm’s way without addressing these problems.

    The President has ignored advice FROM EVERYONE to provide the necessary troops (and let’s be real the original recommendations were for 400,000 troops to handle the occupation but General Shinseki got fired for saying that) and support. Options such as restart the draft need to be seriously addressed by the President if he wants to continue this stupidity, but he will continue to make decisions with half his brain tied behind his back. Continuing to support Bush is just backing an incompetent loser, and the American people realize this.

    We know the Repubs all have to stand up and scream that somebody else is responsible for this mess, but the sad reality is that Bush did exactly what he wanted and nobody in the Rubberstamp Republican Congress provided the oversight necessary to ensure he was doing the right thing. Pissing and moaning about the Congress actually doing it’s job now is just more of the same BS.

  • No argument there, Glen. I just don’t think that’s the point Fallenwoman was trying to make. It isn’t difficult to find any two or more groups who have been killing each other for centuries over religion or cultural beliefs, and the Sunni/Shia rivalry is thoroughly unremarkable in this respect. What I got from Fallenwoman’s comment was that this is some kind of new discovery – like, “hey…they’re savages!! What were we thinking, trying to make a democracy out of this sideshow??” If you were going in the same direction as Glen with that, Fallenwoman, I deeply apologize.

    However, if you mistook the Sunni and Shia for amiable neighbours who borrow each others’ pie recipes over the fence, you wouldn’t be the only one to make such an erroneous assessment. Check out this blast from the past from Middle East expert William Kristol, Editor of The Weekly Standard, in the first heady weeks of the invasion:

    “There’s been a certain amount of pop sociology in America that the Shia can’t get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There’s been almost no evidence of that at all,”

    Ummm….how about now, Bill? Cat got your tongue?

  • You know. The repubs were looking to change the rules of the Senate so they could push through judges and other items on their agenda.

    How about this Senate change the rules so if a Senator doesn’t vote whichever position has the most votes also gets that Senator’s vote included in their total. I bet we see a lot more Senators on record.

    Just a thought

  • Fallenwoman is doing her homework and posting her viewpoints. Apparently, just like Bush (who did not know what Shia and Sunni were when he started the Iraq war), she was unaware of the country’s history. She was sucker punched by an incompetent loser of a President that lies to his own base just as much as he lies to everyone else.

    The American people have written off Bush, but there’s hope for Fallenwoman. She needs to start learning about how most US counter-terrorism experts compared invading Iraq after 911 to invaded Mexico after Pearl Harbor to truly understand just how much the President abused her trust.

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