A commander-in-chief moment that Kristol missed

It’s Monday, and that can only mean one thing: highlighting the errors of fact and judgment in Bill Kristol’s latest New York Times column. Today, Kristol argues — get this — that the surge policy in Iraq was a great idea, and he prefers John McCain to Barack Obama because of it.

Discussing the surge of troops and the new counterinsurgency strategy of early 2007, McCain pointed out, “Senator Obama opposed the new strategy. … Yet in the last year we have seen the success of that plan as violence has fallen to a four-year low. … None of this progress would have happened had we not changed course over a year ago. And all of this progress would be lost if Senator Obama had his way. ”

Early 2007 was as close as we’re going to get to a commander in chief moment for Senators McCain and Obama. They had to make a judgment in a difficult real-world situation — not on the healed planet of Obama’s dreams. With the Iraq war going badly, McCain took the lead in calling for a change in military strategy and a surge of troops. Obama, by contrast, went along with his party in urging withdrawal. Now, 18 months later, McCain seems pretty clearly to have been right.

Can McCain get voters to compare his judgment with Obama’s in a moment when the two of them were confronted with a weighty choice?

First, it’s become fashionable in conservative circles to not only argue that the surge has been a sterling success, but to state this as if it were an obvious, incontrovertible fact. As Obama has explained, the surge has contributed to a reduction in violence, but the policy was tailored to reach a different goal, which the surge did not complete: “The goal of the surge was to create space for Iraq’s political leaders to reach an agreement to end Iraq’s civil war. At great cost, our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006. Moreover, Iraq’s political leaders have made no progress in resolving the political differences at the heart of their civil war.”

Second, Kristol sees January 2007 as a classic “commander-in-chief moment,” because policy makers were confronted with “a weighty choice.” You know what else might qualify as a “commander-in-chief moment”? The fall of 2002, when policy makers were confronted with a choice about whether the war in Iraq was worth launching.

As I recall, McCain failed this “commander-in-chief moment” rather dramatically, while Obama was right. It’s odd that Kristol skips right past this without mentioning it.

Indeed, if we’re playing by Kristol’s rules, what we’re left with is a couple of “commander-in-chief moments.” On the first, in 2002, Obama was right and McCain was wrong. On the second, in 2007, Obama argued that the surge wouldn’t produce the political results Iraq needs, and McCain argued the opposite. As with the first term, Obama was right and McCain was wrong.

So what is Kristol talking about? Does he really want to talk about McCain’s “judgment” on matters of national security and foreign policy?

And as long as we’re talking about Kristol’s column, he added:

In his evocation of healing powers and dominion over the waters, Obama summons up echoes of the Gospels and Genesis. His comment a week earlier at Wesleyan, that “our individual salvation depends on collective salvation,” I might add, would seem at odds with much of Christian teaching. But I’ll let Obama take that up with his minister.

The pathetically cheap shot at Obama’s spiritual life notwithstanding, I think Kristol’s confused about what’s included with “Christian teaching.”

As Mark Kleiman explained, “I don’t know how to say this, but … Extra ecclesiam nulla salus? (That isn’t just a Catholic doctrine; all the Reformers held it. That’s why ecclesiology was such a hot topic; if the Church was essential to salvation, then it mattered a lot what the Church was and how it was to be run.) If you’re going to spend all your time sucking up to rich goyim, maybe you ought to learn something about their religion.”

I’m starting to suspect that Bill Kristol makes these errors in every single column he writes just so he can see his name in the paper a couple days later when the Times has to issue the weekly correction. “Look! I made page two of the New York Times today!”

Either that, or he’s just a complete and utter incompetent who rose to his current position on nothing more than nepotism and who’s never been right about a single thing in his entire life.

  • “For God sent not His Son to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”

    Look it up, Mr. Kristol. And while you’re looking that one up, look this one up too:

    “Professing themselves wise, they became fools.”

  • Let’s see. McCane squeaked said “Me Too!” when the Chimperor wanted the surge and that’s the sign of a great leader. Obama went with his party and that’s a sign of weakness. Sure. Got it.

    If a McCane were caught boning a goat,* Kristol Meth would suddenly become a staunch defender of goat boners. That’s how hacktacular he is.

    *Shame on you! Stop making jokes about Cindy!

  • As much I hate fundies I’m beginning to think Islamists are less the obstructive force toward blocking an effective Iraqi government than the Iraqis whose main purpose is to tap into American money.

  • the surge has contributed to a reduction in violence

    Just how much the surge contributed is also questionable. First the primary reduction in violence came from the Sunni led “Anbar awakening”, and most of the additional US troops were sent to Baghdad. I’m not sure to what degree the surge had to do with the Sadr peace fire either.

  • And let’s not forget that much of the ‘decline’ in violence is due to the cease fire between the differing Shiite factions.

    A cease fire that was largely brokered by IRAN.

    Demonstrating that the neocons public enemy number one has far more influence and power in Iraq than we do.

  • Orange, one small correction to what you said:

    Obama went with his party, and the majority of Americans, and that’s a sign of weakness.

    We never should have been in this mess to start with. And if Bush bombs Iran (which, more and more seems likely [see http://www.thinkprogress.com for yet another indicator]) let WW3 begin. We bomb Iran. Russia and/or China bomb us. Nukes, nukes everywhere! And not a drop of safe water to drink, or food to eat. Gas? $20.00 a gallon – if available at all. Jobs? Not so much. Shelter? Can the banks foreclose on 90% of homes? Infrastructure?

    Do these clowns have any idea what the results of this insanity will be?

    Kristol, former Chairman of the Project for a New American Century, whose intent is to rule the world will be responsible for its destruction.

    Eat THAT corporate media. Hope you enjoy the results of your propaganda.

  • uh oh. tAiO is breaking out the goat jokes. that surely summons and foretells the appearance of his fellow CBR goat-joker. . .

  • Also don’t forget that we’re paying some 90,000 people not to fight. That helps with the violence, too.

  • What is going on? It seems like every news service now has a surplus of blithering idiotic chickenhawks such as Kristol. Every day the news broadcasts and the columns seem to become more right-wing, more silly, more hysterical. “News” even seems completely out of touch with a mainstream America which seems more concerned with the economy than with Paris H. or a warehouse fire in Atlanta. Is this the start of the corporate push to trivialize and spin information more before the next election or is it just me?

  • drats, those meddling kids! our plan was to keep dumbing down the voting public as far as necessary, using complete inescapable immersion in brain-wasting drivel like Paris H, Larry the Cable Guy, Entertainment Tonight, People Magazine, talk radio – every medium possible. If they still wouldn’t fall for our guy McCain, we’d dumb ’em down even further! And we would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for -jayinge- and his friends! you may have foiled us this time, but we’ll be back! *shakes fist*

  • Of course, no one wants to discuss the biggest mistake of their own careers. I sincerely hope that when history is written about the Iraq War, people like Kristol get their names tied to Bush as the instruments in the worst foreign policy disaster of a generation. History would be kind to Bill Kristol by forgetting him.

    John McCain: Here’s to you, poor people!
    McCainonomics 101.
    John McCain: Your retirement is too secure as it is, don’t you think?
    John McCain: Here’s to you, OH, PA, MI!
    John McCain: Can’t poor sick children just get a job already?
    John McCain: 100 more years of war!
    John McCain supporting our troops by keeping them uneducated.
    Who knows better how you should act with your own body, why of course, John McCain!
    4 more years of Bush/McCain policies! They’ve worked so well so far!

  • What happened to being greeted as liberators or that Sunni and Shiite would not fight each other or the war would be short and it would pay for itself. If we nuked Iraq off the face of the planet McCain would spout, “You see, it was successful… Sunnis & Shiites aren’t fighting with each other anymore”. Such limited vision…can’t see the forest for the trees.

    Kristol and McCain have about the same intelligence…difficulty seeing past the end of their noses…relying entirely on trickle down intelligence.

  • Do these clowns have any idea what the results of this insanity will be?

    Yes… They are actively seeking the end times. It IS a scary thought.

  • Republicans don’t do nuance, they don’t do depth and they don’t do research. They need someone to tell them how to think, and they’d prefer you not add links to any sort of facts, which may require extra thinking. Cowards. Sheep. They think Fox News tells them the truth, so they’ll get their info there. Kristol tells them what to think, and it’s, literally, a load off of their minds. And they’re not looking for news they can trust. They’re looking for news they choose to believe. They’re looking for opinions that support the opinions they want to have. Much like a piss-poor detective who has a theory on a crime and a criminal, and ignores evidence that contradicts that theory and stretches the importance of the evidence he finds that does support his argument to a near-breaking point. And even when confronted with facts that contradict their argument, so what? They made the decision they wanted to make all along, so it was “right” even if it was wrong. You see it all the time in neocon/fundieland. Invading Iraq was the right thing to do because we haven’t been attacked and Saddam is dead, so what if Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, Saddam wasn’t an imminent threat and the country still has no functioning government AND we’ve bankrupted the nation to wage this war?

    It’s a flat-earth philosophy. The world is round. So where does that leave all of us that trust reality when the flat-earters are so desperate to run the show?

  • MsJoanne said: “…Do these clowns have any idea what the results of this insanity will be?…”

    Of course they do…they count on disastrous results. It’s disaster capitalism and they are already set. Point by point they have set this country up for disaster control from the Executive unitary directive to blackwater to FEMA camps to the National Guard under federal control (notice all the training exercises around the country recently?) we have already been set up for a dictatorship in time of crisis and no one…no one can stop Bush-Cheney should they decide to pull off another 9/11 or attack Iran. Pelosi removed from the table our only recourse to stop these mobsters. Write letters, scream and threaten to go to court and in 50 yrs they might have been constrained. We’ve proven they are liars and therefore mass murders and traitors yet they still control the military. What more needs to happen before congress takes this seriously. America is at war with those who through a coup have taken it over. I wonder, what could happen to prevent elections in which a dem is sure to win? Yet we sit and do nothing knowing it is coming. Impeach them now.

    We have become entirely dependent of the sanity of our military leaders. Here’s hoping they have more loyalty to the constitution than to our political leaders.

  • Kristol is a chickehawk and a founding member of PNAC – please look up PNAC in Goggle or Wikipedia. Kristol has a job. His job is to destroy the country he lives in. His father (Irving) was a neocon and a loser – young Billy is also a loser and a neo con. Neither man served his country in uniform. Each man wants to send your children to fight their war. Now, why would anyone listen to him?

  • The sanity of our military leaders? Like this one?

    On May 1 the Senate approved the promotion of Brigadier General Robert L. Caslen Jr. to Major General. Currently the commandant of cadets at West Point, he will become the commander of the 25th Infantry Division. He is also president of the stridently fundamentalist Officer’s Christian Fellowship, whose vision is a “spiritually transformed military, with ambassadors for Christ in uniform, empowered by the Holy Spirit”

    One paragraph out of a long article. A long, frightening article.

    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/15133

  • “If you’re going to spend all your time sucking up to rich goyim, maybe you ought to learn something about their religion.”

    Why should he bother when so-called Christian leaders like Hagee and Parsley don’t bother to understand much about their own religion?

  • If the surge is working, and Iraqi parliament wants us out…shouldn’t we oblige them?
    Why are we paying out multi-year contracts in the budget for Fiscal 09?

    We been bamboozled, that’s why!

    and as for Kristol- being “Quayles brain ” isn’t much to hang your hat on.

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