A cute debate exchange does not a ‘defining moment’ make

At last week’s debate for Republican presidential candidates, the moderator asked one of those annoying show-of-hands questions, but nevertheless raised a crucial point: “I’d like to see a show of hands. How many of you believe global climate change is a serious threat caused by human activity?”

Fred Thompson said, “I’m not doing hand shows today.” Asked for a yes-or-no answer, Thompson refused to respond, saying he wanted a minute to respond to the question in more detail. The moderator balked, and Thompson responded, “You want a show of hands. I’m not giving it to you.”

It certainly livened up an otherwise dull event, but I wonder if the Thompson campaign is milking this one for more than it’s worth.

Fred D. Thompson’s “hands down” moment in the Des Moines Register Republican debate last week is still resonating throughout his campaign, and keeps popping up on his bus tour this week. […]

[H]is campaign renamed the tour “The Clear Conservative Choice: Hands Down! Bus Tour in Iowa.” And for at least his first three stops on the 15-day swing through Iowa, Mr. Thompson made sure to remind his audiences of what his campaign called his “defining moment.”

“I won that debate hands down,” Mr. Thompson said, to scattered applause on Monday night. He made similar remarks in Manchester on Tuesday morning. And by the time he got to Decorah, his second stop on Tuesday, he had worked it into his routine.

“I won that debate hands down,” Mr. Thompson repeated, to laughter during a stop at Ruby’s restaurant.

Really? Not answering a question has become the “defining moment” of the senator’s campaign?

It was a cute little debate exchange, but isn’t this over doing it a bit?

First, I suspect this is probably a little too clever. The debate was in the middle of the day on a weekday, and was universally panned as dull. I have a hunch most people who hear the “hands down” pitch never actually saw the “defining moment.”

Second, as Jason Zengerle noted, “Do note the irony that Thompson’s defining moment involves his refusal to do something. Fred Thompson: so lazy he won’t even raise his hand!”

And third, there’s the small matter of Thompson’s actual beliefs on the subject at hand.

Thompson is clearly not very concerned about global warming. Yesterday on Glenn Beck’s radio show, Thompson said that while the “Earth is warming,” we “don’t know whether or not it’s a part of a cycle. We’ve had cooling stages before. We don’t know to what extent it’s due to manmade causes.”

Similarly, in a CBS News interview last night, he claimed that the “state of entitlements” and “extremists” who “want to do drastic things to our economy” are greater threats than global warming: “There are a lot of unanswered questions. We don’t know to the extent this is a cyclical thing. This may or may not effect very much. The extremists are the ones who want to do drastic things to our economy before we have more answers as to how much good we can do and whether people in the other parts of the world are going to contribute. It’s the fact that our entitlements are bankrupting the next generation. We’re spending the money of those yet to be born and we can’t continue that way.”

I know there’s a temptation to use pre-planned, often-scripted debate exchanges as key moments that become “turning points” in retrospect. John McCain used his “tied up” remark in Orlando repeatedly.

But somehow, I doubt this “hands down” quip is going to be the start of a massive Thompson comeback.

Everyone who thinks Grampa Fred could stay awake through a briefing on global warming, raise your hand.

  • one would think thompson would welcome show of hands questions, since he always seems hard-pressed to finish a thought.

    nixon got that ‘read’ right — fred’s a dull boy.

  • I think asking for a minute to reply to that question, whether the answer is yes or no, is actually kind of noble.

    I also think Fred is a joke. But then I think most of that gaggle are jokes.

    For myself, even if I was going to answer no, I think I’d say: “No, climate change is not totally manmade, but it is an issue we can use to wean ourselves from foreign sources of oil and free America from its subserviance to Saudi Arabia and other authoritarian regimes, allowing us to promote freedom and democracy in the world without the undermining effects of real-politik.”

    If I were going to say yes, I know I’d say: “Yes, climate change is manmade, controllable and reverseable. And the United Nations report that said the World’s poor will suffer first and most is absurd. Climate change destroys wealth. Your ski villa in Vale is nothing more than a stupid looking shack if you have no snow. Your beach front home on the Outer Banks isn’t going to be worth much when it’s been washed out to sea. Your $1M house in the hills above Los Angeles won’t fetch much on the market after it mudslides down into the LA River. Climate Change destroys wealth, and you can thank your precious SUV when you lose it all.”

    Having actually said this in a Democratic Party meeting in LA.

  • Gee that looks like a great big pile of cow dung.
    It smells like cow dung
    It feels like cow dung
    It tastes like cow dung
    Thompson: Go ahead and step in it because after all there’s no real evidence that the dung actually came from a cow.

  • this has become Frederick of Hollywood’s standard schtick. Huckabee gets blasted (most notably this week in Slate) for relying too much on humor and jokes to the detriment of substance; Fred should be getting hit even harder on the issue.

    Check out this example per Taegan Goddard:

    “I consider good gun control as a real steady aim.”

    — Fred Thompson, quoted by the Nashville Tennessean, when asked about the Second Amendment.

    Such depth and intelligence in his answers! Such thorough explanation of his positions! Such detailed mastery of policy!

    And people take this clown seriously why, again?

  • If the guy won’t raise his hand and agree with a billion scientists that global warming is real, then you can bet he wouldn’t raise a finger to do anything about it as president.

    Well, I’m raising a finger, Fred. Is this my defining moment?

  • After Thompson said he wasn’t doing hand shows, why oh why oh why didn’t someone raise their hand and say:

    “Excuse me, but I think I requested the hand job.”

  • Thompson’s refusal to do a “hand show” is the defining moment of his campaign in much the same way “Pull my finger” was the defining moment of my relationship with my gandpa. OK, great…what else ya got?

  • If Fred had a cogent plan on global warming, then I would applaud him for refusing to be a performing monkey for the moderator. I want all of them to be on record about this issue.

  • Any ideas out there as to why this old clown is REALLY running for president?

    He can’t win. Even Thompson seems to give the impression that he realizes he’s not up to the task.

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