A few Dems realize it’s ‘time for Democrats to turn their attention to John McCain’

With the Democratic presidential candidates focused, not surprisingly, on their own efforts to secure the party’s nomination, there’s been quite a bit of talk in Democratic circles about independent efforts to take on John McCain before he has a specific opponent.

It sounded like a pretty good idea, but the execution has been problematic. Ben Smith reported yesterday that donors hedged on the investment, leaving McCain’s public image intact while Dems involved in the projects engage in “a quiet round of finger-pointing.”

Despite the millions of dollars pooling around Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, anti-McCain funds have fallen far short of the hopes set in November, when a key organizer, Tom Matzzie, reportedly told The Washington Post that the “Fund for America” would raise more than $100 million to support the activities of a range of allied groups.

The Democratic National Committee, too, is organizing an anti-McCain campaign, but a spokeswoman, Karen Finney, said fundraising to support that effort has met “mixed” results.

So while news releases and Internet ads have been launched, the largest-bore weapon in contemporary politics — a sustained television campaign — hasn’t. That’s because, people involved say, the soft-money groups don’t have the soft money.

“Many of the people who would normally be involved in such an effort are overly focused on the primary, which is a mistake,” said Michael Vachon, a spokesman for George Soros, who is the largest individual donor to the Fund for America, which in turn has passed on at least $1.4 million to what was expected to be the main attack group, an organization called the Campaign to Defend America.

“We know we’re going to have a good Democratic nominee — it’s time for Democrats to turn their attention to John McCain,” Vachon said.

What a concept. It’s not as if we’ve seen the importance of defining the rival party’s candidate early on.

Oh, wait, that’s exactly what we’ve seen.

So what happened?

The Campaign to Defend America even solicited drafts of advertisements from several Democratic consultancies, which it showed to potential donors and tested on focus groups, said a person familiar with the activities. But McCain’s victory speeches came and went without the group making an impact on his campaign.

In the run-up to the March 5 vote in Ohio, the group aired an ad titled McSame tying McCain to President Bush’s policies. “We need a new direction, not the McSame old thing,” the ad concluded.

The Campaign to Defend America spent $141,073 to air the ad in parts of Ohio, according to a federal report, and a similar amount airing it just across the state line in Erie, Pa., according to a person familiar with the spending.

Those areas, though, weren’t chosen to impact public opinion. They were chosen because they were cheap, and representative of swing voters. The ads were aired as “message testing,” according to two people familiar with the spending; they were followed by a round of polling.

But while the message is said to have tested well in Ohio and Pennsylvania, no further ads have aired. The bottom line, people familiar with the group’s fundraising said, was the bottom line.

“Fund for America and its spinoffs that are supposed to be handling the creative on this really aren’t raising much money,” said a Democratic operative familiar with the effort.

The operative noted that the group that attacked President Bush in independent television advertisements in 2004 was run by Harold Ickes, now an aide to Hillary Clinton.

“A lot of the big Media Fund people were Hillary people, and [California billionaire Steve] Bing’s just not going to write a check unless she’s the nominee,” the operative said.

I can’t help but think some folks are unfamiliar with the phrase “eyes on the prize.”

Then we need Move On.org to step onto the plate. Is there anyway that I or anyone else can donate money to keep this thing going?

  • I’m not sure that I want to donate to even those ‘left-leaning’ independent groups. They always seem to go over the top (albeit, the opposition surely does this, and one might argue one need fight fire with fire). I don’t generally support the DNC, largely for partisan reasons (I consider myself left of the Democratic platform, let alone their actual politics). I do, however, generally support Democratic candidates. I mention all this only because I guess I’m a part of this problem, to the degree it is such, so I thought I’d explain.

  • jhm, please remember a donation to the DNC is a donation for Dean’s prescient 50-state strategy, and that the DNC is not the DLC or the DCCC. I reminded myself about that when I donated last Friday.

    Eyes on the prize.

  • wvng: Are you from WV? Just asking because I don’t see any evidence of a 50 state strategy here.

  • I have a hard time contributing to any soft money groups. I find the whole idea of them repugnant. Personally, I believe that if a campaign wants to say something nasty or misleading or downright false, then they should have to say it themselves and live with the consequences.

  • Danp (#4) said:
    wvng: Are you from WV? Just asking because I don’t see any evidence of a 50 state strategy here.

    LOL. Perhaps you are right. But isn’t a 30-40 state strategy better than a 12-15 state strategy? The way I see it, the 50 state strategy is an ideal. We may fall short of it, but if we improve our standing in enough states, then perhaps a few more can be targeted next time. And a few more the time after that.

  • The primary is bleeding the coffers dry. One person can end it gracefully; several can end it ugly. Until then, though, the primary will continue to be the focus of donation dollars.

    When Obama is officially the nominee and he asks people to match their donation to him to the DNC, things will turn around. Of course, the sooner the better.

  • independent thinker (5): To some degree you’re reversing the issue. The candidates aren’t supposed to have any influence over these groups (though who’s kidding whom?). The purer issue, however, is whether groups like Move On or even individuals like George Soros should have the right to buy advertising on an issue. They are not allowed to endorse a candidate, though we are seeing that law broken this year, with the FEC sitting mute and crippled. But why should AARP, for example, be prevented from buying ads to talk about the need for affordable elder care? Or criticize a party that lies about a prescription drug plan for the elderly? OK bad example, but you get the idea.

  • Once the realization sets in that Hillary can’t win democratically, the supers will do their thing and this phase will be over and Obama will be able to ask his millions of supporters to cut a check to the proper groups (he will tell us who that is).

    When millions of us get out our checkbooks, McCain will take his final beating. The media lapdogs will not be pleased, but we will crush McCain through sheer numbers and determination, despite his lackeys in the MSM.

  • independent (6): totally agree. Just wish I saw it here too. It’s lonely being a liberal. I went to a Dem county meeting the oither night. The chairman welcomed everyone to the Democrat Party meeting. One person shouted out “Democratic”. The chairman was taken aback by this, and I don’t think anyone else in the room understood why the “heckler” interrupted. From there the issues seldom got beyond the county appraiser and the need to replace the Supreme Court Judge who was at the Riviera with his buddy from the coal mines (Blankenship), who had a case before the judge. By the way that Judge, Spike Maynard, is a Dem.

  • Several commenters have noted their refusal to fund independent expenditure groups because they find the concept distasteful.

    And therein lies the dilemma: if we unilaterally disarm our 527s, the Repubs wont join us; they’ll take full advantage and win more elections. They have no interest in campaign finance reform or clean elections, so as Republicans win more, the problem will just get worse (as will nearly every other problem known to mankind).

    The best chance for change and long-term campaign finance and election reform is to have progressives in power. And, as it turns out, in the short run the best way to make that possible is. . . to donate to progressive 527s.

  • What Mark Pencil said — as long as 527s are fair game, we can’t afford not to use them.

  • The only thing the Democrats need in order to combat McCain most effectively is the truth.

    Truths such as these: The fact that McCain finished fifth from the bottom of his Naval Academy class of eight hundred ninety-nine — dynamite which should be repeated as often as possible. The fact that McCain “did his duty” in the Hanoi Hilton is admirable but not heroic (by military standards). That he continued, after Vietnam, to live off the federal tit by hosting pentagon personnel in his military-lobbyist’s office in the Capitol is neither heroic or nor admirable (if you read the details). He had a congressional career which would have been regarded as lackluster at best had his party not been so extremely whacko that it made him appear to be a maverick just by being normal. He was one of the Keating Five in the S&L collapse.

    You don’t need to dress any of this stuff up with fancy advertising. It’s all there already to go. The ultimate advertising package — a picture worth 10,000 words — is already there, too: the internet-plastered photo of “the hug“. It says it all: the willingness to overcome Bush-Rove’s early trashing of him as a man, the embrace of the ultimate draft-dodger (Commander Codpiece, who took the Guard uniform and then failed to even show up), the symbolism of being Bush III, etc.

  • An interesting post from a former Hillary supporter who has recently changed sides:

    I assumed that we could call [my disagreement with her AUMF vote] a reasonable disagreement among reasonable people and leave it at that.

    But… now she’s claiming she opposed the Iraq war before Obama did? What?

    The whole argument is a tad insulting to me. Here I’ve spent months defending her original vote on principle… I’ve been saying, over and over, that you have to remember how easy the first Gulf War was and how people like Al Gore, who opposed it because they feared a quagmire, had to explain themselves later, and how they were politically hobbled by their opposition… that explanation totally makes sense. If Hillary would just say the truth: “I was worried it would be easy and a bunch of nukes would be found,” then I think her worst detractors could at least have a civil debate with her.

    But, no.

    […]

    But now she’s being wormy. It’s beneath her. It embarrasses me. I’ve come to respect Obama quite a lot lately. But mostly because he hasn’t bludgeoned Hillary over her recent behavior which I believe is out of character for both her and Bill. Heck, maybe Obama agrees with me that Hillary and Bill are out of character right now… maybe that’s why he’s been giving her a pass.

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/okay-i-was-wrong-and-im-an-oba.php

  • Danp,

    I don’t really have a problem with groups like AARP running ads supporting issues important to seniors…or any other advocacy group doing likewise. What I hate are the groups whose sole purpose is to swiftboat the other guy. To me, these kinds of groups and those who support them are lower that the bacteria that feed on the shit of George W. Bush. And I’m not just talking about ones that target Dems. Groups that perform these type of dastardly acts are a blight on our political system.

  • I am seeking to contribute to a 527 that will match $ for $ and smear for smear with the rethug 527’s.

    I am not willing to contribute to the DNC or MoveOn.Org or any other organization that is not willing to be as nasty or more so than the repugnican 527’s will be!

    I want to hear:
    – for every smear of Michelle Obama a louder smear of McSame’s junky thief wife
    – for every smear of Rev Wright a louder smear of McBush’s wacko preachers calling for attacking Iran
    – for every smear of Obama’s ‘patriotism’ a louder smear of McCrap’s calls for more ‘patriotism by war’
    – for every claim of ‘tax & spend democrats” a louder claim of ‘borrow & spend rethugnicans”
    – for every racist smear of Obama a louder smear of senile old warmonger

    I expect the Obama & McCain campaigns to be conducted basically decently & respectfully. There is no doubt that the rethug 527’s will be out in force & as nasty as ever. This election is too important to the future of our country to allow that to go unchallenged.

    Dirt for Dirt – Smear for Smear – $ for $

    If you think this is too over the top, I invite you to join your local chapter of “Stupid WHITE Warmongers for McCain”. Their motto is “He’s one of us!”

  • I get the sentiment in #16, but you can’t beat McCain by sliming him. It just won’t work.

    Besides, that’s Clinton tactics. Obama can and, I believe, will win by sticking to the issues–and pointing out, in numbingly repetitive style that we’ll all likely find very annoying, that McCain for all his personal appeal is offering a kinder, gentler version of what Bush, Cheney, DeLay and Norquist have been peddling seemingly forever.

  • Although I agree with Smiling Dixie’s “eye-for-an-eye” concept, I must simply remind people that, for the first time in ages, Dems have the resources necessary to do much more than merely trade blow for blow here. If the GOPers throw a tennis ball, we throw a cannon ball. If the GOPers try to throw someone under the bus, we throw them under a locomotive. If the GOPers try the swiftboat stunt with a lie, then we return the favor with a “swiftfleet” of TRUTH.

    Think about this for just a moment or three—a down-n-dirty swiftboating of McSame using all of the documented facts that currently exist. His voting records. His videotaped commentaries. All of the archived facts about the savings-and-loan disaster.

    It is not enough to just trade with the dimwit. He must be politically wiped from the human record.

    And a plethora of fully-funded, armed-to-the-teeth DEM 527s will do just that.

    SIC SEMPER MCSAME!!!

  • I do, however, generally support Democratic candidates. — JHM, @2

    The guy who called here on Friday on behalf of Dean’s DNC, said he heard that one *a lot* 🙂 I’m pretty much like you and for the same reasons; I consider myself a moderate but, by most Virginia standards, I’m a flamin’ commie.

    Of course, I have another reason (apart from generally stinking economy) to hold my horses; I don’t know whether DNC will cave in to Hillar’s demands for coronation, democracy be damned. In which case, I’d sooner continue giving the little I can afford to individual candidates, especially those close to home (my district is, *for once* running someone with, maybe, half-a-millimeter chance against the Repub incumbent) .

    We ended up compromising; he wanted $100, I pledged $50 and told him to send the paperwork, promising to have the check in return post.

  • anonymensch @18 “you can’t beat McCain by sliming him” is wrong!

    steve @19 has my sentiments…

    This election cycle, the rethugnican slime must be met, if not exceeded. Rethug 527’s will be active and THEY MUST BE MET on the battlefield of slime.

    Among the many things that cannot be done is to let the repugnican 527’s present slime that is unanswered. If must not only be answered, it must be countered with slime. Fighting a defensive battle (or in Kerry’s case not even fighting a battle) against slime leaves it a one-sided battle.

    If you remember the 2004 election cycle, the Swiftboating of Kerry drew continued Corporate News Media attention on a regular basis & DAMN LITTLE OF IT WAS DEVOTED TO TRUTH. If the CNM is going to make a showing of discussing Swiftboating as if it were a 2 sided issue, they must have Sliming of McCrap to discuss as well.

    This election is too important to the future of our country. If the rethugs learn that their 527’s will be met or exceeded, maybe next time the whole process could be without. That is not going to happen this election cycle.

  • I just heard what must be (for me) about the fiftieth caller to a progressive radio station saying he was a pilot who got shot down over Vietnam. Every single one of them said they did not regard themselves as a hero for that. Nearly all said they were just doing their duty. None of them thinks John McCain should be exploiting his being shot down, especially (many of them say) by showing films of himself undergoing interrogration.

    McCain = War Mongering Dude.

  • Oh, but we DO keep our “eyes on the prize.” We just don’t happen to believe that Barack Obama is the best candidate to bear the Democratic title for president and are actively boycotting fundraising efforts by DCCC, DSCC, DNC and Democratic candidates (who support Barack Obama) for reelection.

    The other piece of this is that HRC’s supporters are sick to death of being called “racists” and “stupid”, and at having to endure sexist slime, other name-calling tactics, and being pushed out of so-called “progressive” blogs because we support HRC.

    Finally, if Barack Obama and his followers think that lying about his fundraising donors, his misleading and lying ads, his stealth support of other Obama surrogates to pressure Clinton to drop out, and his own sexism in this campaign is going to win HRC supporters to his side, he is dead wrong.

    If it takes a financial boycott, so be it. Politics is politics and it’s hardball.

  • Mabelle

    There are many Obama supporters who don’t believe HRC is the best. They too are sick and tired being called cultists, stupid , etc. My point is that we can go on and on about the primaries but it will be over so we need to keep our eyes on the prize. I just want a Democrat in the White House. It is now time to move forward.

  • Oh, how clever; McSame kinda rhymes with McCain. $40 million for this crap? Are these people still in middle-school? Displaced revenge for all the wedgies they endured, I suppose.

    If you want to be entertained by the bastardization of names, the blogs are full of really good ones on Obama.

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