A heritage of shame

Guest Post by Morbo

A museum in Tallahassee, Fla., is under fire for an exhibit called “The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag.” The piece, by artist John Sims, shows a Confederate flag hanging from a noose on a gallows.

Officials at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science say they have no intention of removing the exhibit, despite protests from the local branch of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Good for them. The story refers to the flag as “Confederate,” and I suspect it’s the Confederate battle flag. This flag – a blue X containing 13 stars against a red field – tends to spark controversy for its connotations to racism. It was the standard of a faction of people who rose up in unlawful rebellion against the duly constituted government of the United States. We are not obligated to treat it as something sacred. Many who are ancestors of those enslaved view the battle flag as a symbol of oppression.

Defenders of the Confederate battle flag often argue that it merely honors their heritage. Rarely does anyone stop to ask the question, “Is that heritage worth honoring?” A legitimate interest in your ancestors is one thing; romanticizing a cause that sought to legitimize the ownership of human beings is quite another.

Neo-Confederates counter that the Civil War wasn’t really about slavery. It was, we are told, about “states’ rights.” They neglect to point out that the alleged “right” Southern states sought was the ability to own, buy, sell and breed other human beings as if they were cattle.

The view that the Civil War was not really about slavery represents the ultimate triumph of the neo-Confederate perspective. Amazingly, it has infiltrated even many schools in the North.

For a thorough debunking of this view, see James Loewen’s “Lies My Teacher Told Me.” Loewen points out that Southern leaders didn’t even raise the states’ rights argument until Abraham Lincoln’s election. Under President James Buchanan, they pressed for a federal law guaranteeing them the right to own slaves.

Many Americans are interested in the Civil War, just as many others enjoy reading about the American Revolution, the World Wars, Vietnam and other conflicts. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a legitimate interest in this history. My beef is with those who go too far and try to romanticize Confederate leaders, those who engage in a type of hero worship of figures whose main accomplishment was their attempt to tear apart our country and carve out a region where it would always be safe for one human being to own another. In common parlance, the term used to describe such people is not “heroes”; it is “traitors.”

Loewen points out that we would be appalled if German-Americans regularly goose-stepped down the street waving swastika-laden flags and insisted they were only celebrating their heritage. He’s right. We can certainly examine the Confederacy as we would any other historical topic, but there is no need to portray its leaders as a romantic band of visionaries fighting for freedom. They fought to maintain a system based on violence, degradation and the stubborn belief that some people can and should be property.

In short, one’s heritage, while it can be interesting to explore and analyze, isn’t always worth celebrating.

Loewen’s other famous book “Lies across America” does a good job of describing this also. He describes how the landscape is dotted with historical markers sympathetic to the Confederate cause. My personal favorite is Nathan Bedford Forrest Park in Memphis. Forrest was a founding member of the KKK.

  • My moment of epiphany came when I was in the public library here in Montgomery, AL looking for a copy of a speech by Alexander Stephens, VP of the CSA. Looked in the Civil War section and all I could find were books about Generals and Battles, etc. Nothing about the politics of the war. Eventually found the speech in a book in the reference section. It became clear to me why we hear all about “My great grandaddy fought in the war and he never owned slaves” and somehow that means it wasn’t about slavery. The “lost cause” fans are all wrapped up in the battles and heroics and the Gone With The Windiness of it, and never look into the politics. That’s why they have battlefield re-enactments, but never legislative re-enactments.

    The library also has a copy of the minutes of the Secession session of the AL Legislature. It should be required reading for any Civil War Fan.

    Finally, if you go to Confederate “Heritage” sites, you will find much of the source material quoted originated ater 1875. Post reconstruction and during the period when the great lost cause myth was being created.

    RE: Jim #1: We have Bedford Forrest public schools in AL;>

  • Shazam. This appears in this morning’s Montgomery Advertiser. It is a letter to the editor from a white professor at Alabama State University (an historic African American University) who is a strong and vocal proponent that the Civil War was NOT about slavery:
    Mr. William Butler’s simplistic caricature of the South and the Confederate States of America is by no means new. The slave South, rather than the Republican South, was a pre-Civil War invention of abolitionists and Republicans for obvious purposes. (See Susan-Mary Grant, “North Over South,” 2000).
    Full letter here

  • If you search on Yahoo! News Photos for “Mary Brogan”, you will find a photo of one of the items in the exhibit, a battle flag hanging from a gallows.

  • Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the KKK and his name gave it a great deal of it’s original prestige and reputation, though in fairness to Forrest the Klan was much more of an anti-carpetbagger organization to begin with and he supposedly resigned when the focus shifted towards racism as Reconstruction was winding down.

  • Long before the Shrub came on the national scene our faculty lunch bunch was debating “worst president ever”. Millard Fillmore? James Buchanan? I suggested Abraham Lincoln because he held the Union together (my tribute is here).

    If Honest Abe had simply let the South go, the North would’ve moved much more rapidly toward becoming a modern industrial nation and the South would’ve become just another hot and muggy banana republic. And we’d never have had to listen to all those racist Dixiecrats and their successors in the GOP singin’ the puh-raises of Gawd Amighty, Jowja peaches, and the flower of southern womanhood.

  • All wars have multiple causes but, imho, it would be difficult to find another war that comes as close to having just one as the american civil war. Efforts to revise the history of the period will forever be impeded by that simple fact. Slavery was such a strong and divisive issue even in 1789 that the union almost didnt happen. You could look it up.

    BTW, if you think WW2 was caused by the attack on Pearl Harbor, go stand in the corner with a bag over your head.

  • Loewen points out that Southern leaders didn’t even raise the states’ rights argument until Abraham Lincoln’s election.

    While there is little doubt that slavery was at the core of cause of the Civil War, the statement above is not accurate. Concern about state’s rights was raised in the 1788 Virginia ratification convention. It can also be seen in the reaction to McCullough vs. Maryland in 1819, also with Cohens vs. Virginia in 1821, and yet again in the secessionist threats coming out of South Carolina in late 1832 / early 1833(in reaction to the tariffs of 1828 and their 1832 revision.)

  • But… Americans people do regularly goose-step down the street waving swastika-laden flags and insist they are only celebrating their heritage. The proper method for hanging that is a rope and the nearist lamp-post.

  • Any mention of pride in heritage for the confederate flag is repugnant to our nation’s heritage. The Civil War was fought for economic reasons, not states’ rights. Slave labor v. free labor. Free labor won, racism still exists, and any mention of how the confederate flag needs to be preserved is merely an additional reminder that racism is alive and well in America, period! To move beyond our past horrors, we need to bury, or hang in effigy, any reminders of such horrors. CSA was an affront to life, liberty and property in a free society. To all my friends in the South, your ancestors were not about any noble cause, they were about holding humans in bondage, reserving in a most perverse way breeding rights since the one drop rule was in effect and international slave trade was on the wane. I have often wondered how the white matriarch of any plantation system would allow her Christian husband breed with their slave women – truly indefensible! Yes, I say let the exhibit stand, and we will begin to truly see the intentions behind such groups as SCV. -Kevo

  • The members of the Confederate Treason Corporation can never get their heads out of their asses long enough to notice that the only thing in the Confederate “Constitution” that was different from the real one was a prohibition of advocating the abolition of slavery or manumission of slaves. The war was all about and only about the freedom of the descendants of Barbadian Pirates masquerading as Southern “Aristocracy” to own slaves.

    Every time some southern moron says “war of Northern Aggression” I want to kick him so hard in the balls that he flies through the air ten feet before landing. But then kicking them there wouldn’t hit anything important.

    It wasn’t the war of northern aggression. It was the war of Southern Treason and the only reason it isn’t clearly seen as this is because of all the Margaret Mitchell propaganda over the years.

    That rag should not only be hanged, but burned. Too bad my great-great grandfathers weren’t ordered to hang all the traitors 140 years ago. Starting with Robert E. Lee.

  • Martin:

    If you want to read some interesting history about Alabama and the Civil War, you should look up the story of the First Alabama Cavalry, U.S. Volunteers. They fought a war against the traitors so they could go fight for their country, and were one of the leading units in the southern campaign. 100,000 loyal southerners who fought for their country, while their families endured oppression and repression from the “freedom fighters.”

    Here’s a good place to start:

    http://www.1stalabamacavalryusv.com/

  • Along Tom Cleaver’s post, here’s a good link that does a great job of breaking down the comparison between the US Constitution and the supposedly more “states’ rights-friendly” Confederate Constitution:

    http://www.filibustercartoons.com/CSA.htm

    Ed,
    I’m with you. Once secession took place, Lincoln’s only response should have been “Works for me, Jethro, don’t let the door slam your ass on the way out.”

  • The Civil War was fought for economic reasons, not states’ rights. Slave labor v. free labor. — kevo,@12

    That had been my guess too, when I was studying American history. But I was raised a good Marxist, and trained to “follow the money” in everything, because the “base” (material side of things) comes before the “superstructure” (culture, including writing and philosophy as well as music, painting, etc). What’s your excuse?

  • I agree that the interests of the southern states was in retaining slavery — an immoral abomination.

    However, I don’t think your contention that they were traitors is on as firm a ground. I don’t believe it is clear from the Constitution that states have no right of exit.

  • I’m inclined to agree with libra (#16) and kevo (#17) about “the economy” but it was much more involved than just the “material side of things” causing something in the cultural “superstructure”.

    I have a hard time imagining any large group shedding blood to improve their economic status. Race hatred, religious hatred, language hatred … these are the things which have triggered massive slaughter throughout history.

    From the earliest Colonial times the (East Coast) North was distinct from the South. In spite of governmental efforts to encourage towns, the South remained rural. Where the effective unit of local government in the North was the town council, in the South it was the county. The north made its living off small industry and fishing; the South from plantation agriculture. The dominant religion in the North was congregational, that in the south was episcopal.

    Woven together threads like that weave a pretty complex blanket. A century and a half after a very bloody Civil War we’re still not “one nation, indivisible”.

  • >While there is little doubt that slavery was at the core of cause of the Civil War, the statement above is not accurate. Concern about state’s rights was raised in the 1788 Virginia ratification convention. It can also be seen in the reaction to McCullough vs. Maryland in 1819, also with Cohens vs. Virginia in 1821, and yet again in the secessionist threats coming out of South Carolina in late 1832 / early 1833(in reaction to the tariffs of 1828 and their 1832 revision.)

    Fair enough. I should point out that Loewen notes that Southern leaders used a states’ rights argument when they thought it would help them and a federalism argument when they thought that would help them. In a way, they are like today’s right wing: It’s all about “states’ rights” or local control until a state or local government does something the right-wing does not like (such approving a gay-friendly bill of some type). Then of course we need federal legislation or even a constitutional amendment.

  • One small point that has always annoyed me has been that Hollywood was rather complicit in romanticizing the Confederate ’cause’ for decades and building the current popular myth. It wasn’t only “Birth of a Nation” that presented former Confederate soldiers as noble rebels who had fought for some great ideal. How many times did we have the myth smacked in our faces; the troubled ‘hero’ of some horse opera ruminating over the wrongs done to states rights, the evils of a big government, or the corrupt actions of carpetbaggers (sorry CB). Can it be supposed that it also satisfied Hollywood’s pro corporate/big business agendas?
    —Just a small thought.

  • #16, no excuse, just an examination of Lincoln’s Republican party coalition during the pre and post Civil War Era. -Kevo

  • ” I don’t believe it is clear from the Constitution that states have no right of exit.

    Comment by Catherine — 3/24/2007 @ 4:50 pm ”

    I’m pretty sure you are correct about that. If the founding fathers had explicitly banned secession, the constitution would never have been ratified. Our country is held together with bailing wire.

  • “Sons of Confederate Veterans” = products of ten generations of southern white trash incest, which explains why they are the droolers they are.

  • Let this white trash Southern ask you much better folks some things:

    1. Does it upset you that the New York State flag, the Delaware State flag, the New Hampshsire state flag, the Pennsylvania state flag, and the Rhode Island state flag all PROUDLY depict slave ships or slave ship imagry? All of these states adopted their state seals at the height of the slave trade and since slaves were the most valuable cargo ever to pass through their ports, you can’t say “Oh, those are just cargo ships.”

    2. Does it upset you that colleges like Harvard, Yale, and Brown University were built on slave money and Brown is named after the most successful slave trader in American history? Wouldn’t it much more “inclusive” to bulldoze these colleges to the ground in order to get rid of reminders of slavery?

    3. Can someone tell me where in Manhattan the monuments are to the two slave revovlts where the participants were burned alive at the stake while the future investment bankers shouted in glee?

    4. Can someone find the Confederate battleflag among the thousands of KKK marchers walking down Pennsylvania Avenue in 1925.( I can’t see it for the thousands of U.S. flags I do see.)

    5. Can someone explain to me why the African Burial Ground is surrounded with skyscrapers in Manhattan while down South we honor and protect our slave graveyards?

    Will some of you calling Southerners “white trash” because we resisted the advances of a Federal government bent on destroying everything in front of it please answer those few, simple questions?

  • 1. Those are CARGO ships. Did they import slaves? Yes they did. However, given that ports in those days were the only place to bring in ships, there would be no America if not for cargo ships. The same cannot be said about the South, which would have existed with or without slavery.

    2. The building of colleges cannot be compared to lynchings, though some seniors would disagree.

    3. Wall street now has a far better monument to tyranny.

    4. The KKK wear Confederate traitor flags for underwear.

    5. Land values. Any major city is an archaeological pit, and every city in Europe is built over previous cemetaries.

    I’m not one calling Southerners ‘white trash.’ I’m one calling RACISTS the pigs they really are. Are you a racist? Are you defending the South? Or defending racism?

  • Many who are ancestors of those enslaved view the battle flag as a symbol of oppression.

    If I might humbly suggest a correction, I think you mean descendants, not ancestors. 🙂

  • 1, 3: Well, since I didn’t know about them, and I don’t think many other people do either, and I know that unlike the Confederate flag they’re not taken as threats or used as a rallying symbol for racists… no.
    2. If The Left were advocating the complete reparation of modern Savannah or Charleston to descendants of slaves or something, you might have a point that we are being inconsistent by not being similarly critical of colleges founded by slaveowners. But we’re not. Do you have a link to someone who is? Until then, you’re just railing at either strawmen or voices in your head.
    4. LOL. So because one racist rally in 1925 allegedly didn’t make a centerpiece of the stars and bars… what’s your point exactly? It’s not a symbol of racism and nostalgia for oppression, because a specific group of racists 80 years ago didn’t use it on a specific day? Wow, that’s a compelling argument…
    5. Everything in Manhattan is surrounded by skyscrapers. So what? You don’t see the Dutch whining about the lack of respect for their heritage on the island, do you? And more to the point, “honor and protect our slave graveyards?” WTF? Well, bully for you, I guess, but you do realize that it wasn’t always as amiable as Gone with the Wind made it seem, right?

    Maybe I spend too much time at Balloon Juice, but I can’t help wondering, are you a spoof?

  • All we in the South ask is that our detractors be consistent in their outrage.

    If the Confederate flag is banned, then also ban the half dozen Northern state flags that proudly celebrate the slave trade.

    If Selma, Ala. must be condemned for the violence inflicted on the civil rights marchers, then New York City must be condemned for the two slave revolts where men and women were burned alive, and it must be condemned for the 25,000 worked-to-death young slaves tossed in the African Burial Ground west of city hall.

    And one last thing, don’t be yelling “Klan! Klan! Klan!” every time you see a Confederate flag. We got rid of the Klan as a powerful force in the South more than 40 years ago. The only Klansman who have held rallies here in North Carolina all drove in from Indiana. The Klan is a straw man who was knocked down here long ago. Why does he still stand elsewhere?

  • If the Confederate flag is banned, then also ban the half dozen Northern state flags that proudly celebrate the slave trade.

    If Selma, Ala. must be condemned for the violence inflicted on the civil rights marchers, then New York City must be condemned for the two slave revolts where men and women were burned alive, and it must be condemned for the 25,000 worked-to-death young slaves tossed in the African Burial Ground west of city hall.

    First of all, “proudly”? You keep on using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. (Okay, so you’ve only used it once, but that quote is irresistable to paraphrase.) If a nondescript trading ship that represents slave ships among many other types were really a “proud celebration” of slavery, then you wouldn’t have to explain to everyone what it stands for. I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t seem to complicated to me.

    Secondly, yes, of course, everyone should realize that institutionalized slavery was legal in many parts of America outside the south. (For that matter, I don’t see why anyone should feel guilty about it unless they’re deliberately choosing to identify with the side that was standing up for oppression. If you know anyone who’s trying to say otherwise, like you seem to think, please provide a link.) Everyone should also realize that it began with European trading nations, like the Dutch and the English. Call it historical literacy. Everyone should also realize that Martin Luther was pretty anti-Semitic, the Crusades were a dumb idea, and the Roman republic wasn’t very democratic at all. Quiz time, now: which of those immoral causes is (a) the most recent and (b) still being glorified by some modern Americans?

    Thirdly, who said anything about banning the flag? Mock it, denigrate it, treat it like the swastika, and realize that the people flying it are identifying with the ugliest phase of our nation’s history, but ban it? I didn’t suggest that. Do you have a link to someone who did? A quote? A cite? Bueller? Bueller?

    In the end, deliberately or not, this is all a heap of red herrings. From the original post: We can certainly examine the Confederacy as we would any other historical topic, but there is no need to portray its leaders as a romantic band of visionaries fighting for freedom. They fought to maintain a system based on violence, degradation and the stubborn belief that some people can and should be property.

    In short, one’s heritage, while it can be interesting to explore and analyze, isn’t always worth celebrating.

    Do you disagree with that? If so, do you have an actual argument for it? I haven’t seen one yet; don’t hold back. But if not, why are you defending the Confederate flag and/or people who fly it?

  • Just below is the text of a comment, I hope will come to the attention of the director for the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science:

    “As if this museum doesn’t have enough problems with regard to the Confederate Battle Banner.

    “Some busybody claims that I should be upset about one of the send-ups of the Confederate Battle Banner. Specifically, it is practically a duplicate of the photograph I use as an icon for my blogspot website. Wood’ja (?) buh-leave!

    “I actually proposed the design to be used by Republicans, intent on saving their party from becoming a regional party, completely restricted to the former Confederate states. Should that happen, the only national party will be the Democratic Party.

    “If that busybody’s claim should happen to be true, we may need to talk. By the way, it’s easy enough to check. One need only click on the bold hewhoisknownassefton said text.

    “Somewhere in my website, there’s information about how to get in touch.”

    toodles

    oh, yeah, almost forgot, here’s the hyperlink to my blogspot website:

    oh, it’s here somewhere

    and one more thing, you’re getting this e.mail, because I googled “John Sims” and “Confederate”, and then your website came up . . .

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