A house divided…

The three big rally-the-base votes in the Senate — [tag]ban[/tag] on [tag]gay marriage[/tag], ban on [tag]flag[/tag] “[tag]desecration[/tag],” and permanent repeal of the [tag]estate tax[/tag] — are all expected to lose, but more importantly, they’re expected to put [tag]Democrats[/tag] on the defensive while uniting [tag]Republicans[/tag] and their base.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the culture war. Democrats don’t seem at all intimidated, and Republicans appear increasingly divided amongst themselves.

On the anti-gay amendment, which seven Republicans voted against today, many in the party wanted proponents of the measure to just go away.

“I know in many meetings of our colleagues when the issue of marriage comes up, heads drop,” Mr. Santorum said in a floor speech. “It is just an issue that people just feel uncomfortable talking about. It’s something that maybe in some respects they feel like, why do we even have to? Why is this even an issue?” […]

One Republican strategist, Ed Rollins, said it was a mistake for the president and Senate leaders to focus attention on a marriage ban now, in what could look like a panicked reaction to shrinking public support. “What the president needs to do is look like a leader, not be somebody who looks like a politician who is overreacting to polls,” Mr. Rollins said. “If anything, he is reminding people of what they don’t like about the Republican Party.”

The GOP is split on the estate tax, too.

Senate Republicans, pushing once again to abolish the estate tax on inherited wealth, are split about whether to push for a full repeal that would probably fail, or seek a more cautious compromise with Democrats that could pass. […]

In what is either a shrewd game of chicken or an effort to inflame the passions of crucial Republican constituencies, the Senate majority leader, Bill Frist of Tennessee, has made little effort to strike a compromise with conservative Democrats that would greatly reduce but not fully abolish the tax….. The strategy has divided Republicans.

For that matter, some Senate Republicans are even balking on the party’s flag scheme.

Like most Democrats, two Republican senators, Robert F. Bennett of Utah and Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, have consistently opposed the measure.

“I don’t want to amend the Constitution to solve a nonproblem,” Mr. Bennett said. “People are not burning the flag. The only time they start is when this amendment gets offered.”

Indeed, opponents of the measure routinely help highlight the argument against a flag “desecration” amendment by quoting one fairly high-profile Republican:

“The First Amendment exists to ensure that freedom of speech and expression applies not just to that with which we agree or disagree, but also that which we find outrageous. I would not amend that great shield of democracy to hammer a few miscreants. The flag will still be flying proudly long after they have slunk away.” — Colin Powell, May 1999

These three measures are supposed to be the kinds of conservative, nonsensical ideas that keep the GOP together. Instead, the initiatives are a) failing; b) getting shrugged off by Democrats; and c) highlighting fissures within the Republican Party. Great job, GOP.

So if conservatives start thinking, “why dont we just lynch gays, so they wont be a threat”, and people were polled that this was their attitude, would our elected officials just pander to this kind of insanity? When are we going to have Representatives who actually vote for what is morally right, and start moving to break down intolerance. I cant believe that somehow it is still ok to discriminate like this and then have officials that pander to your prejudice. Sickening.

I know it took years for people to realize that Africans were people too, but does someone being homosexual mean you have fewer rights and priveledges. I mean, who else do we discriminate against this way – in that we withhold what they are owed as human beings, for nothing that they can control. You’d think the scientific community were still having a debate about this.

  • They haven’t got the memo yet that this isn’t 2001 anymore and people have seen too much to be buffaloed by hot-button issues that just don’t generate any excitement.

    If anything could highlight the Republican Party’s total intellectual bankruptcy, these meaningless exercises in futility are it.

  • It’s probably too much to hope that the electorate is actually turning toward a more substantive approach to politics and policymaking… but it strikes me as feasible that they might have reached a point of saturation with all the right-wing bullshit they’ve been fed for six years now. Hey, it’s a start.

  • So I don’t understand – do most Republicans just hate gays and think they’re less than human, or are they just trying to get re-elected by those that do hate ?

  • “are they just trying to get re-elected by those that do hate ?” – Jim H.

    Bingo!

  • The Dems HAVE TO use the estate tax (what’s left of it) as a wedge issue to prove to everyone that there is not a fiscally conservative, nor prudent, bone left in the Republican body. Leave the Repubs to winger social conservatives and tell old time fiscal conservative Repubs to take flight to a safer harbor for their votes.

    And instead of the Repubs calling this tax reform, it must be called what it truly is: a tax deferment. The Republicans have hit the national credit card with complete irresponsibility. We’re going to be taxed one day to pay it off, and we can do that today without accruing as much interest. Call it a brokeback budget, fiscal abortion, call the treasury terrorists — just get control of this public debate!

  • The congress no longer represents our interests. I wrote a protest letter regarding Hayden’s appointment to head the CIA after proof he masterminded the wiretapping of millions of Americans. Diane Feinstein sent a letter back saying she thought he was qualified, therefore we can all go to hell, basically.
    They are all corrupt with possible exception of Joe Biden, Pat Lehey, Barbara Boxer, Fiengold (maybe) and one or two others. The rest promote whatever special interests instruct.
    They could care less about flag burning, gay issues or anything beyond keeping power. The problem is simple. Until we get rid of the voting machines and have the votes counted the old fashioned way with paper, the government system will continue in the present manner. The counting of the ballots are in control of private industry by a multinational corporation claiming propriatory rights to the software. Americans don’t make, mfg or count our votes any longer. If we no longer can count or examine our votes, the vote is a joke.
    Due to the exploding debt level, the US is being sold off. The ports deal was only one of many. Unless we get our voices back, these bastards will destroy our economy if they have not already done so. They could care less about education, infrastructure, medical care, huge energy costs, borders, immigration (legal or otherwise) and jobs leaving this country at an average of 100,000+ a MONTH!
    Yes, 100,000+ a month, 1.2 million a year. The statistics play it down, but those are the correct numbers. Since they now call flipping a hamburger mfg, the statistics are very misleading. I worked in high tech recruiting and hiring for 20+ years and I know.
    Just paying interest on the national debt is now in excess of One Billion Dollars a DAY.
    Get rid of the voting machines, get control of our own votes again and our votes may accomplish something in November. If not, don’t bother voting, it will change nothing.

  • As a happily married heterosexual for nearly thirty-two years, I do not feel threatened–as Republicans do or make as if they do because they don’t want to resolve real issues–by marriage among gays. Marriage should be for anyone who truly loves another regardless if they are hetero- or homosexual. What really adversely affects the sanctity of marriage are adultery, polygamy, domestic verbal and physical abuse, and the inevitable resultant bitter divorce that splits families with the affected children becoming the worst victims who are asked to choose sides–“are you for your mother or father?”

    What ever happened to George W. Bush being a “compassionate conservative”? There is nothing compassionate in his agenda nor in the agenda of his Republican cohorts in recent memory. This is being devisive and intrusive not inclusive; their actions prove their real agenda is “big brother highly intrusive government” not their highly advertised “we’re for smaller and nonintrusive government.” Actions speak better–and more accurately–than words.

    Let’s hope our fellow Americans will show their outrage to the Republicans’ high jinks and that the Democrats will show they are more responsible and responsive to the real needs of average Americans in the coming ’06 and ’08 elections and restore true democracy to our shores.

  • Curmudgeon:

    They haven’t got the memo yet that this isn’t 2001 anymore and people have seen too much to be buffaloed by hot-button issues that just don’t generate any excitement.

    Ja… I agree.. except for this: There ain’t no memo.

    In other words: you are either paying attention to the temper of the country or you are not. Rove, brilliant Rove, is showing himself to be a one trick pony. He has lost the reins on America’s temperment. His time has come and gone……..

    So yep… you are absolutely right.
    The times they have a-changed.

    Bush, Rove, Rumsfeld, Condisleeza Vice… they are all dinosaurs standing before a tar pit.

  • i know this is nothing to do with the topic but, im just a high school student in new zealand..we dont seem to get “alot” of information about what is actually going on out there in the world..we’re pretty up to date i guess but i honestly have no idea what is going on.im just doing an assignment for english at school and i have to do it on the war on terrorism or whatever you want to call it and i need someone like an american person or someone who live in america to answer a couple of questions.. i juts need your opinion on george bush and his efforts in the war and what you think about the war like your opinion and thoughts.i dont mind what you think, its not biased, but if someone could answer, that would be cool because it is an assigment for my ncea which is like our high school system and it is required that we actually ask people about the topic and i dont know who to ask over here…so i thought an american opinion would be a good idea and its due in next week!! help!! thanks

  • Great job DEMOCRATS!

    I give the Democrats all the credit for the Repugs falling apart.

    All you have to do, in order to cause your opponent to fall apart, is to STICK TOGETHER. Stand up to them. DO NOT BLINK! Stare them right in the face. Maybe go on the attack… especially if they don’t expect that.

    This is what happens when Democrats find their balls: the Repugs are exposed as not having any of their own.

    I’ll give all the credit for Repug disintegration to Harry Reid, Howard Dean, Al Gore, AAR, and bloggers like Kos, TPM, Media Matters, and of course our own beloved Carpetbagger.

    Stand up! Fight! That’s all it takes to win.

    Was it Woody Allen who said 90% of success is just showing up? Well, we’re showing up.

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