About that U.N. Security Council resolution…

August 16, 2008

If Republican hacks are going to go on national television to attack Barack Obama for supporting a U.N. Security Council resolution on Russia’s aggression towards Georgia

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, they probably ought to know that John McCain supports the same U.N. Security Council resolution on Russia’s aggression towards Georgia.

As my friend Jed noted:

GOP strategist John Feehery attacks Barack Obama for proposing a UN Security Council resolution to deal with the crisis in Georgia…but John McCain has the exact same position.

It provided for a funny moment on Hardball — but only if you knew the facts. Unfortunately, neither host David Shuster nor Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis knew the truth, so nobody corrected the record.

In other words, Feehery was attacking Obama’s position, which happens to be McCain’s position — but neither the guest nor the hosts realized it.

Good to know.

Wow, I would love to have a job where ignorance is a paid commodity.

  • Anyone can be a “journalist” these days. It’s so dumb.

    Also, I want to scream at that idiot for being so morally bankrupt that he can criticize one politician for having a position that his guy does too.

  • 1) Anything that a Democrat favors is ipso facto wrong.
    2) Anything that a Republican favors is ipso facto right.
    3) In case of a conflict between rules 1 and 2, apply rules 1 & 2.

  • The Republicans are so anxious to attack Obama for anything and everything that a little thing like “it’s McCain’s position too” isn’t going to slow them down.

    “In other words, Feehery was attacking Obama’s position, which happens to be McCain’s position — but neither the guest nor the hosts realized it.”

    Most McCain voters won’t realize it either. That’s the whole idea. It isn’t ignorance on Feehery’s part – it’s propaganda.

  • What is David Shuster’s problem? Based on his performance last night he seemed to be auditioning for a job with Faux News. He totally missed McAin’t’s idiotic assertion that the Georgia vs. Russia conflict was the “first serious conflict” since the end of the cold war.

    Then both he and Kofinos let Feehery claim that McAin’t doesn’t need to pick a VP with foreign policy chops because, no one is more qualified than the guy that needs LIEberman to whisper corrections into his ear.

    I thought Matthews was a joke but, Shuster takes the cake.

  • President Saakashvili of Georgia seems to be a jumpy wee fellow. A cursory glance at a map of the region shows even the least geopolitically minded that this is not a configuration suitable for unseasoned short-sighted impulsive firebrands, goaded on by other reckless freedom dimwits, as the current president appears to be. The two provinces under contention both sought to separate themselves from Georgia in bloody conflicts — South Ossetia in 1990-1, Abkhazia in 1992-4. Both wars ended with cease-fires that were negotiated by Russia and policed by peacekeeping forces under the aegis of the recently established Commonwealth of Independent States. Over time, the stalemates hardened into “frozen conflicts,” like that over Cyprus.

    Then, continuing from the New York Times:

    But the Georgians are intensely nationalistic, and viewed these de facto states on their border as an intolerable violation of sovereignty. Mr. Saakashvili cashed in on this deep sense of grievance, vowing to restore Georgia’s “territorial integrity.” Soon after taking office, he succeeded in regaining Georgian control over the southwestern province of Ajara. Then, in the summer of 2004, citing growing banditry and chaos, he sent Interior Ministry troops into South Ossetia. After a series of inconclusive clashes, the troops were forced to make a humiliating withdrawal.
    …
    The Abkhaz talk about the Georgians pretty much the same way that the Georgians talk about the Russians. On that point, the Abkhaz share much with the South Ossetians. For them, as for the Ossetians, Georgia is the neighborhood bully.

    Unable to let go of his nationalistic attachments, Mr Saakashvili continued to push the envelope towards its now headline breaking point. The details of this recent turn of events can be picked up from any reputable news source.

    The Times concludes with a very nice summary of the situation in context:

    Georgia’s predicament seems very simple from the vantage point of Tbilisi — 1921, 1938 — but extremely complicated from a great remove. Russia threatens Georgia, but Georgia threatens Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Russia looks like a crocodile to Georgia, but Georgia looks to Russia like the cats’ paw of the West.

    With all this complexity to study and comprehend — stretching back beyond a thousand years — bombastic hacks mouthing off instant-fix bellicose crudities just look stupid and ineffectual. The solution to this problem will come in time, as all solutions eventually do. Only patience can foster this process.

  • Shuster is OK.

    Remember he got ran out of Fox News back in 2000 for trying to cover GWB in the same manner that Fox covered Clinton.

  • Its interesting to watch C-Span, talking about Iraq refugees, becuase their plight is going to be trouble some for a long time.

    About five million people and the property rights associated with lost homes. The legal stuff is horrendous. Humanitarian issues totally left out and over looked by the complicity by mainstream media. The prospect is years and decades to untangle. So, how is America to address the responsibility for this mess? Like dump it on the inter-nation community after Bush said “you with me or against me”.

    America, via Bush administration has collectively created a massive disorientated amount of lost home ownership in both America with millions in foreclosure and Iraq millions in lost property.

    Isn’t it incredible plus the surge has developed a barrier society. Cement barriers essentially have created a segregated society. This is supposed to be a success of the surge? I think not. What Iraq has, is a developed social structure which has to deal with long time and possible perpetual concessions.

    Yuk… thanks Bush…

    Democrats do not see defeatism like the Republicans are afraid to admit to the likely problems created and the burden of long term concessions. America is sure in a bear market. A long one.

  • I wonder when it was pointed out to Schuster..Must have felt like a real dumbshit not to catch that one.
    Notice how condescending and authoritarian their demeanor becomes when attacking Obama, oh how quickly it would have changed if only someone would have aid “that’s the same position McCain has”. Now his reaction will be forever hidden. “Missed it by that much”.

  • RE: the criminal slaughter and assault by Georgia on South Ossetia:
    This morning, I watched a few minutes of the Forbes hour on Faux Noise, and the little gang of four was very upset and were sputtering away, mad as a sack of wet cats. “We will punish Russia. I want to hurt Russia.” They finally decided that a boycott of oil and natural gas from Russia was a bit impractical… You could just feel the hate, spewing out. Then they decided that I would be a good idea to raise the value of the US dollar! (This is the same dollar which their heroes, the Bush gangsters, have destroyed over the last eight years).

    If you have access to PBS, check on the “Russia Today” news show. It gives a much different picture of the Georgian attack on South Ossetia from that of our lying corporate imperial media or Bush/Rice/McCain. Or visit their web site, http://www.russiatoday.com. Also, check out Democracy Now, which is broadcast M-F on Free Speech TV – Ch. 9415 on the DishTV satellite.

  • Vladamir Putin is afraid of Obama! Obama will marshal the world to end communism as we know it. Putin knows that the world, particularly Europe, will respond to Obama’s world hope campaign. Obama was right to call for the Russian agression to be punished by the U.N. Security Council. He will get Russia booted from the permanent veto position Russia has. Putin know this.

    We are the one’s we’ve been waiting for. Obama will end dictatorship in the world forever. Obama is THE ONE.

  • Saw the segment and was very dissapointed in Kofinis. He allowed Feehery to continually attack Obama without much to say when the rebuttals were obvious.

  • Obama made sense?

    Like with Iran, timetables, and tire pressure?

    Well, there’s a winning strategy:

    Attack Obama’s position relentlessly.

    Then a week later, decide that Obama’s position makes sense.

    Got it.

  • If facts no longer matter in news reporting, at what point does it make sense to being to reign in Murdock’s News Corp, the parent of Fox? There is probably no entity more single-handedly responsible for the coarsening of dialog, hardening of positions and transformation of news to entertainment freak show than Murdoch. And he’s done it on at least three continents.

    This internally corrosive threat – almost a civil war without guns – poses a far greater danger to the country than any suicide bomber ever could.

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