About those conservatives who denied Plame was covert…

Newsweek reported about a week ago what most of us have known for years: Valerie Plame was really, truly a covert agent at the CIA when the White House decided to expose her identity. Summarizing what most of us were thinking, Kevin Drum noted, “So that settles that. I hope the wingosphere can finally stop bleating about how she wasn’t ‘really’ covert and there was no harm in what Libby et. al. did.”

But Salon’s Alex Koppelman went a step further and asked some of the same people who’ve been insisting for years that Plame wasn’t covert whether they’re prepared to acknowledge their mistakes, run a correction, etc. Consider this rogues’ gallery: Fred Barnes, Sean Hannity, James Taranto, Ann Coulter, Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit), Ace of Spades, Laura Ingraham, and the editorial boards of the Washington Times and the National Review, among others.

As you’d expect, most of those contacted decided not to respond. Those who did answer Koppelman’s question came up with creative explanations to rationalize their errors.

* Glenn Reynolds: Instapundit told readers in 2005 that Plame was a “paperpusher,” but not a “covert spy.” Asked by Salon whether he intended to correct or retract that post, Reynolds said that “normally one retracts original reporting, and I haven’t done any original reporting … My position on this has always been that this is a non-scandal and a non-story, and I’m certainly not going to retract that. I’d like to see investigation of leaks that have damaged national security.”

* Victoria Toensing: She continues to argue that under the language of the IIPA, Plame doesn’t meet the legal standards for “covert agent,” though Koppelman explains that these legal definitions haven’t been litigated and are therefore rather ambiguous.

* National Review: The conservative magazine told readers in 2005, “Despite all the hype, it appears that Plame works a desk job at the CIA. That’s an admirable and important line of work. But it doesn’t make her a covert operative, and it didn’t make her a covert operative when Bob Novak mentioned her in his July 14, 2003, column.” This week, in a pleasant surprise, National Review said, “This is a murky matter with lots of conflicting interpretations, but we were too categorical in how we put it in that editorial.”

MSNBC’s Tucker Carlson, meanwhile, offered the most colorful response.

MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, whose father, Richard Carlson, is on the advisory committee for the fund set up to help pay for Libby’s defense, told Salon that he believes the CIA was defining Plame as covert at the time of Novak’s column, but questioned the definition.

“If it is in fact true that she had served under nonofficial cover and was then working at Langley, the story is why was CIA calling her covert? … I’m covert too, how does that sound? What does that mean?” Carlson said. “CIA clearly didn’t really give a sh*t about keeping her identity secret if she’s going to work at f**king Langley.”

Carlson also challenged the assertion made in the unclassified summary released by Fitzgerald that Plame had continued to travel under nonofficial cover while working from Langley.

“I call bullsh*t on that, I don’t care what they say.”

Given all of this, I’m afraid the bleating will continue.

The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” NYT Magazine 10/17/04

  • What about Fred Hiatt? Wasn’t he one of the most persistent Plame-is-not-covert koolaid drinkers?

  • ‘’That’s not the way the world really works anymore,’’ he continued. ‘’We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

    If you want to read a really excellent dissection of that quote, and the entire Administration philosophy behind it, check out MarkDanner.com, and look for his commencement speech to the Department of Rhetoric at Zellerbach Hall, University of California, Berkeley, on May 10, 2007. One of the best analyses of why we went into Iraq that I’ve seen.

  • This will go on and on and on…..

    The wingnut talking heads and The Base has absorbed this line into their version of reality.

    After all wingnuts are still on the “Al Gore invented the internet,” kick.

  • A James Bond Theme is rather appropriate for Tucker Carlson and subject matter.

    When you were young and busy bashing Libs and Dems
    You used to “want” facts and no spin
    (you know you did, you know you did you know you did)
    But in this ever deluded world in which you live in
    Makes you give in and cry
    Say spin and more lies
    spin and more lies
    spin and more lies
    spin and more lies

    What does it matter to ya
    When you NEED a job to do
    You gotta do it well
    Or the Dark Lord will send you to hell

    When you were on Crossfire and “influential”
    You used to “want” facts and no spin
    (you know you did, you know you did you know you did)
    But in this ever deluded world in which you live in
    Makes you give in and cry
    Say spin and more lies

  • Wouldn’t it be nice if Tucker Carlson was forced to get a job at Wal-Mart? He could be a greeter, with his stupid hairdo and his bow tie.

    “Hi, I’m Tucker. Welcome to Wal-Mart.”

    (fuckin’ twirp asshole.)

  • It’s like when you corner a rabid animal. Once they realize that there’s no escape, that they really are going to the pound, they begin gnawing off their own legs in a desperate act to scare off the guy with the net.

    Hey, look at me, I’m a CRAZY motherfucker! Don’t mess with me, I can chew on my own leg!!!

    Here’s a video of Tucker Carlson “defending himself” after he’s lost all credibility:

    http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1126072800/Dog_Goes_Insane

  • Thanks for the inclusion of the report mentioning Tucker Carlson’s father. I have always wondered why this talentless hack could continue to get TV gigs. So it turns out that he’s a WELL CONNECTED talentless hack, and the Right Wing does love to subsidize their mouthpieces.

  • For truth mean something it needs the potential to be inconvenient.

    When reality becomes optional, it is no longer reality.
    Neo-cons are well named.

  • We’re talking about people who are happy to ignore drastic man-made changes to our environment, think Iraq is progressing along swimmingly, and see no reason to accept evolution.

    Also, any guess how many of these characters thought Mitt Romney’s claim about Saddam kicking out the inspectors was true?

  • Just want to say that Mark Danner piece is superb. Thanks much, Chuck,for the link – the rest of us should definitely put it to use.

  • How many people actually believe any of these guys ever believed Plame wasn’t covert? The best you can say for them is that her status wasn’t even considered.

    Truth is whatever they say. They say whatever pushes the agenda. The agenda is to gain more power.

    And around it goes…

  • retr2327 at #5 brought it up. I just dropped the link.

    And I agree, it’s superb. I wish my conservative, bush-supporting friends could would read it.

  • I think Tucker ties his bow tie too tight. — rege, @9

    Betcha it’s a clip-on. Betcha he doesn’t know how to tie a bow, never mind a bow-tie. Betcha the lack of oxygen flow to the brain is caused by his choking on his own words.

  • It would have been nice if they had taken Mark Twain’s advice first: “First get your facts, then you can distort them at your leisure.”

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