After having been railroaded by Rove machine, Siegelman released

There are far too many examples of the Bush White House politicizing the justice system in this country, and using federal prosecutors as partisan tools to help Republicans win elections. The case of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman (D) is easily among the most offensive.

Fortunately, Siegelman (and the rule of law) got some very encouraging news yesterday afternoon.

Donald Siegelman, former governor of Alabama, was ordered released from prison on Thursday by a federal appeals court, pending his appeal of a bribery conviction that Democrats say resulted from a politically driven prosecution.

In its order, the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, in Atlanta, said Mr. Siegelman had raised “substantial questions” in his appeal of the case and could be released on bond from the federal prison in Oakdale, La., where he has served nine months of a seven-year sentence. The order did not say what those questions were, but his lawyers have argued for months that the bribery charge on which he was mainly convicted revolved around a transaction that differed little, if at all, from a standard political contribution.

Mr. Siegelman’s lawyers maintained that — as is standard in many white-collar crime cases — the veteran Democratic politician never should have been imprisoned in the first place while he appealed his conviction.

Of course he shouldn’t have been imprisoned; the charges against him have always been a bad joke.

As Markos recently explained, the Siegelman controversy is “exactly what the US attorney scandal has always been about — the Bush Administration appropriating the lever of our justice system for partisan purposes, a dramatic violation of public trust in a system we expect to be above such things.”

If you’re just joining us, or need a refresher, I’d encourage folks to check out the amazing report “60 Minutes” ran on this case a month ago.

A few other angles to consider in light of Siegelman’s release:

* Just yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee asked the Justice Department to free Siegelman temporarily so that he could testify in a hearing about his case. Though now released, it’s not clear if Siegelman will be able to travel to DC to give testimony.

* Siegelman is out from behind bars, but the court has not yet thrown out the charges or ruled on the merits. It’s certainly encouraging, though, that the court agreed with the basis of the appeal, rejecting the Justice Department’s argument. He may be vindicated yet.

* Even if he is vindicated, he’ll never be able to get back those nine months of his life, when he was improperly incarcerated by a Bush administration intent on punishing Democrats for being Democrats.

* Siegelman hasn’t been able to give media interviews about his dilemma while behind bars. That’s about to change, hopefully raising the profile of this scandal.

The dems in charge – reid, pelosi, and the blue-dogs have some culpability in this too – they have enabled the chimperor each and every step of the way. They have approved each partisan hack appointed to lead the DOJ.

The chimp has not had the majority of popular support since BEFORE 2004 (that was a stolen election), yet the dems have consistently caved in to his demands and done NOTHING about the treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

So what did you expect, gang? What do you think will happen next, waxman will send another nasty letter?

My best guess is that the dems are going to turn their back on one of their own and give dur chimpfurher and the criminal cabal another free pass on these crimes.

  • I don’t know if Siegelman will be found innocent, but at least he should get a fair trial now, at least that is encouraging news.

    I think the devil has a special place for Rove next to Saddam Hussein. Karl Rove has been playing partisan politics for way too long, and did a real number on John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, and my personal belief is that he is holding off on Obama, and if Obama wins the nomination, what he’ll do to him will make Hillary look like a saint in comparison.

    Would somebody please find some way to shut him up permenantly?!?!?!

  • In case anyone thinks the US Attorney scandal is about just eight or nine prosecutors who were fired for questionable reasons, a little review might be in order. Note how all cases involve either a very high profile scandal or a swing state.

    Fredrick Black (Guam) – Abramoff
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/08/bush_removal_ended_guam_investigation/
    Noel Hillman (DC) – Abramoff
    http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060127_abramoff_prosecutor/
    Carol Lam (CA) – Duke Cunningham
    http://www.epluribusmedia.org/features/2007/gonzales_7_backgrounds_carol_lam.html
    Paul Charlton (AZ) – Renzi/Kolbe
    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0307usattorneys.html
    David Iglesias (CO) – sealed indictments against Dems
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_03/010840.php
    John McKay (WA)– Gregoire election
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/002876.php
    Bud Cummings (AR) – Blunt
    http://www.firedupmissouri.com/cummins_fired_while_investigating_blunt
    Tim Griffin (AR) – Caging
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0803/S00289.htm
    Margaret Chiara (MI) – Rachael Brand
    http://www.theamericanmind.com/2007/04/14/what-a-dumb-justice-department-we-have/
    Daniel Bogden (NV) – Gibbons
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/15/AR2007021501487.html
    Tom Hefflefinger (MN) – Indian voter ID
    http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/05/heffelfinger_na.html
    Rachael Paulose (MN) – Replaced Hefflefinger
    http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/05/heffelfinger_ta.html
    Todd Graves (MO) ACORN
    http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/070531nj1.htm
    Bradley Schlozman (MO) ACORN
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/06/missouri_attorney_a_focus_in_firings/
    Leura Canary (AL) – Siegleman
    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001540
    Steven Biskupic (WI) – Thompson
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/041807K.shtml
    Mary Beth Buchanan (PA) – Wecht
    http://www.keystonepolitics.com/story/law-and-judiciary/wecht-claims-indictment-politically-motivated
    Michael J. Garcia (NY) Spitzer
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/nyregion/21justice.html?ex=1363838400&en=6f0eb9677c943a45&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
    Debra Wong Yang (CA) – Jerry Lewis
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/opinion/04fri4.html
    Greg White (OH) Noe, Onunwor
    http://blog.cleveland.com/pdworld/2007/01/outgoing_us_attorney_greg_whit.html
    Karl “Kasey” Warner (WV) – Bill Charnock
    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/05/hbc-90000053
    Tom Colantuono (NH) – phone jamming scheme
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/11/0835/06745
    Bill Mercer (MT) – Conrad Burns
    http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/06/mercers-non-mov.html

    Heffelfinger, Chiara, Bogden, Charton, Iglesias, McKay – Indians
    http://www.indianz.com/News/2007/002486.asp

  • little bear said:
    My best guess is that the dems are going to turn their back on one of their own and give dur chimpfurher and the criminal cabal another free pass on these crimes.

    This has been bothering me for a while. I think it’s mean and unfair to compare Bush to a chimpanzee — unfair to the chimpanzee, this is.

    If you trained a chimp to randomly pick between different possible course of action, the chimp would end up being correct at least part of the time! Bush has been consistently wrong in every action he’s taken and in every appointment he’s made.

    God, I can’t wait for January.

  • I’ve noticed in the comments at a number of blogs, including TPM Muckraker, that many people (even progressive blog reading people) don’t have a good understanding of the bogus nature of the charges against Siegelman. The quote Kevin posted above: “the bribery charge on which he was mainly convicted revolved around a transaction that differed little, if at all, from a standard political contribution” needs to be widely repeated, and slightly amplified for clarity, in a way that people can understand quickly without having to wade through a bunch of background. And it has to be at the very top of every story.

    This really is simple enough that 2-3 short sentences can explain it.

  • Danp, don’t forget Iowa in your list. The Des Moines Register story is already behind a pay archive, but Democratic Iowa State Senator Matt McCoy – chair of a major committee and the only openly gay Senator – was prosecuted by a young right-wing christofascist Bush appointee who had failed in a run for State Treasurer and who admitted he knew little about the US Atty job until he was appointed for what appeared to most to be a business argument with a former colleague.

    After a year of bad press against McCoy and tens of thousands of tax dollars spent (and of course McCoy’s defense costs), a conservative Iowa jury acquitted McCoy of all charges in just two hours – and embarassingly for the government, that time included their lunch. There was never anything to the prosecution, just Republicans going after an agressive Democrat who was a thorn in their sides.

  • Why does America take nine months in jail before a judge acknowledges that Siegelman raised “substantial questions” about his case? Do legal questions have a gestation period? Did the law change during that time?

  • to Ed Stephan, I understand that the court refused to release a transcript of the trial proceedings, which is a requirement for any appeal and is supposed to be released quickly. I assume that they must have been forced to release the transcript? Anyone know?

  • Why does America take nine months in jail before a judge acknowledges that Siegelman raised “substantial questions” about his case? – Ed Stephan

    I understand from watching MSNBC this morning that it took so long because the original ruling judge took so long to release the transcripts, which are needed in order to file an appeal.

  • If I remember the details of the “60 Minutes” piece — and yes, one of the best they’ve done — the Rove-inspired investigation is also what cost him the last gubernatorial election. They got him knocked out of office and then sent to jail for kicks.

    This could be a wedge into the whole USAttorney scandal.

  • 4. SteveT said: If you trained a chimp to randomly pick between different possible course of action, the chimp would end up being correct at least part of the time! Bush has been consistently wrong in every action he’s taken and in every appointment he’s made.

    I think you’re looking at it from the wrong prism. If you presume that those worth $10 million or more are real people and everyone worth less than that doesn’t count, then Bush has made the correct choice over and over again. Bush’s class of people have rarely been hurt by the consequences of his decisions, usually disasters for the rest of us have represented opportunities for them to get even richer. You’re assuming the rest of us count as anything more than serfs and slaves. I’m pretty sure Bush doesn’t believe that, he lives in a feudal world where he is king and the nobles are regaining their rightful place in control of society.

  • I wouldnt be so sure that he’s not all he’s cracked up to be. When I worked at a US govt agency that was investigating him I learned quite a few things about him and his actions that question his ethics, none of which I can divulge, but suffice it to say anything can be slanted.

  • There are a couple of legal aspects that should be kept in mind. In theory at least, the bar to obtaining bail pending appeal is not high. All one has to show is that one has a “substantial” issue (that is, a non-frivolous one, though not necessarily one guaranteed to win) that would result in a new trial. And that one not be a danger to the public. So of course Siegelman should be out on appeal — he easily meets these relatively minimal criteria.

    This raises several questions, however, “What the heck was going on in the trial court?” Who was the judge who kept a former governor, for heaven’s sake, in jail pending appeal? I believe that such a step in a white collar case, particularly a case involving a respectable public figure, is almost unheard of. Certainly it is unheard of in the Northeast, where I practice. Who was this judge, and was he terminally stupid, or just terminally biased? Or do they have different laws in the deep South for Democrats?

    Also, in my experience, the Circuit’s letting him out is unusual and significant. Even where I practice, once a defendant is in prison serving his sentence, the Court of Appeals is quite unwilling to let him out. There’s a real attraction to the status quo, and the disctrict court’s decision on the bail motion gets even more deference than usual. And this is the Eleventh Circuit (need I say more?). So powerful legal or political factors were in motion here. Of course, the district court may well have been off the wall (see above), but still, the trial court usually gets a lot of deference.

    Of course, Congress’s threat to subpoena him to testify may have had some influence here, as well.

    In addition, while conditions of bail usually require a defendant to remain in the district, it is common to grant permission to travel on business or important family matters and the like. I think it would be unprecedented for a district court not to allow Siegelman to travel to Washington to comply with a Congressional subpoena. And pretty unwise of the judge.

  • Guantanamo Bay-style justice now available at US courthouses near you. Coming soon to local theaters, streets and parking lots….rendition.

    Bush, Cheney and Rove. Time for them to answer in court.

  • SteveL

    And Session and Pryor who did the same exact “crimes?” Guess they were sleeping with Rove all along.

  • What drivel. Liberals are asking the wrong question: “Did the Republicans want him gone?”, when they should ask “Did he do something wrong?”

    Let’s look at this.

    a)- The governor had over $500,000 in personally guaranteed debt.
    b)- A corrupt* businessman ponies up $500,000 the governor needs.
    c)- The corrupt businessman somehow gets a seat on the board that regulates hospitals – the very industry the corrupt businessman is fleecing as CEO of HealthSouth.

    Proper ethics for any representative of the people (Dem or Republican alike) demands not just the lack of actual impropriety, but also the lack of appearance of impropriety. The former governor put the fox in charge of guarding the henhouse after receiving a substantial sum of money that directly affected his PERSONAL bottom line. His political affiliation shouldn’t be the question here. Democrats should be happy to see him go. The guy was a crook.

    Just imagine the outrage among liberals if this governor had been a Republican instead of a Democrat. His guilt then would have been a foregone conclusionin liberal circles; we would have heard accusations of a Bushie cozying up to big, corrupt business interests. How does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot?

    Before I get attacked for writing the obvious truth, some disclosure: I am not a Republican. I am not a Democrat. I am proudly independent with a stubborn streak which causes me to vote and talk the way I see things, not the way some mindless Donkey or Elephant symbol would like me to.

    beneficium accipere libertatem est vendere

    * By “corrupt”, I am referring to his role in the Enron-like accounting scandal at HealthSouth, for which he is being forced to repay tens of millions of dollars in ill-gotten wealth, despite paying an allegedly independent journalist to write favorable puff pieces for him, and trying to play the race card at trial (this white guy hired a black lawyer who compared the defendant to MLK Jr. in front of a black-majority jury).

  • Steven Biskupic, Wisconsin US Attorney, must also be held accountable. His politically motivated persecution of Democratic state employee Georgia Thompson was beyond the pale. The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals took the unprecedented step of striking down her conviction and releasing her from prison IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING ORAL ARGUMENT on her appeal:
    “In a stunning reversal, a federal court of appeals struck down a state worker’s fraud conviction that Wisconsin Republicans used in efforts to paint Gov. Jim Doyle’s administration as corrupt. Attorneys on both sides of the case said the three-judge panel likely overruled the trial jury’s conviction of former state purchasing officer Georgia Thompson within hours of oral arguments due to a simple lack of evidence. The decision by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago, which will explain the judges’ reasoning, was not immediately available. During oral arguments Thursday, one of the members the three-judge panel said the charges against Thompson were unfounded. “I have to say it strikes me that your evidence is beyond thin”, federal Appeals Judge Diane Wood told prosecutors. “I’m not sure what your actual theory in this case is.” [Wikipedia]
    Biskupic is a former high school classmate of mine. He was educated – in high school, college and law school (Marquette University)- in a Catholic moral tradition that apparently didn’t take. His enthusiastic embrace of Rovian sleaze, hijacking our justice system to serve his own career and the schemes of his puppetmasters in Washington, is an embarrassment to our alma mater and the legal profession. Steven Biskupic must be held accountable for ruining the life of an innocent woman for purely political purposes. I think it would be appropriate for him and the Siegelman prosecutors to take their turn in the federal pen.

  • Before I get attacked for writing the obvious truth, some disclosure: I am not a Republican. I am not a Democrat. I am proudly independent with a stubborn streak which causes me to vote and talk the way I see things, not the way some mindless Donkey or Elephant symbol would like me to.

    You might want to reflect on the bolded portion, especially when you talk about “the obivous truth.” Some might say “stubborn streak,” others might say “doesn’t like to admit he is wrong.”

  • @21: You might wonder about the lack of investigation into three Republicans who had the same exact dealings with this fellow, if you’re so independent.

    None of them were prosecuted, or even followed up on. Some are still in office.

  • That was Frist’s family company, HealthSouth is another company based out of Birmingham Alabama.

  • My letter to our Commander in Chief, President Bush:

    I believe it is the duty of all Americans who are of age (18-38) to serve their country (Active Duty or Reserves) at some point; especially when we are at War (ie, Honor, Duty, Country). Although I am already 35 (thirty-five) yrs old and work full-time and am a College-Grad (B.S. in Chemical Engineering),I finally chose to join the Armed Forces in the US Navy Reserves in October 2007-I leave for boot-camp this June. If I had been around in the 60’s and 70’s , I feel that I would have proudly served in Vietnam and definitely supported the just War against the Communists (as I do today-nevermind what the treasonous Leftist Mainstream Media or what nihilist college punks say). If I would’ve been of legal age in the 60’s and 70’s I would have also voted for Nixon (being that I proudly voted for Bush twice) and proudly donned Pro-Nixon gear such as bumper-stickers on my car (just as I have Pro-Bush stickers and t-shirts today) as well stood up firmly to all the America-hating anti-war student protestors who chastised our troops and would’ve expressed my hatred towards all the Jane Fonda-type Leftist traitors; by going onto college campuses and duking it out with these Commie scum (while donning the Flag and other Patriotic gear and chanting ‘hooray for Nixon!’). I have a feeling that I may have to do this in the not too distant future as well; this time chanting ’hooray for Bush’ instead and donning Pro-Bush gear! It is for reasons like this that I support the Draft; to make young spoiled punks (nihilistic America-hating college anti-war protestors mostly) like this pay America their proper dues (and their share of the burden) to the cause of maintaining our freedom. As the saying goes; “Freedom is not Free”. In other words, to maintain prolonged freedom (as we have for over 230 years – dating back to 1776), a nation must occasionally fight their enemies (ie. go to war). After learning of how badly our heroic returning troops were treated when they returned from serving in Vietnam (this makes my blood boil quite frankly), I vowed to myself that I would not allow this to happen in MYtime. As a result, I have and will continue to support the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere proudly and defend them vigorously whenever they are attacked by the Left and the Mainstream(Lib)Media (ie. Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc.); these critics are the same scum who attacked our heroic Vietnam vets in the 70’s. Our troops are doing a great job and making great progress in rebuilding and establishing democratic governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, I believe (nevermind what the hate-America Left says). I also vowed to myself when I was still in grade school, that if we (America) were ever attacked (as we were on 9/11) that I would definitely enlist to serve and help to bring down our enemies. I have a good memory and thus being that I am a man of my word, that is why I finally chose to join the Armed Forces in the Reserves in October 2007 and my boot- camp starts in June 2008-I will be an MA (Master At Arms) . Also, I feel it is my duty to serve being that I am Pro-War and support the just Wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, the War on Terror and our great Commander in Chief, President Bush.
    I want you to know that I am a very staunch overt supporter (have Pro-Bush bumperstickers on my car and wear Pro-Bush t-shirts frequently) of you, President Bush (I brag about having voted for him twice and even volunteered for his re-election campaign despite catching flak for it being I live in a fairly blue state -NJ) and am a Reagan Republican. I plan on voting for the candidate who has stood up for you (over the years) and that stands up for you, President Bush, the most and our just Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Global War on Terror against our enemies- the Islamo-Fascists, Communists and the Axis of Evil. Don’t forget however, whoever gets nominated, they have very Big Shoes (‘W’) to fill; much like when Reagan left office in
    1989 and when Eisenhower left in 1961.

    It is my belief (and our Republican leaders’ beliefs) that our old enemy Iraq can someday be a strong ally and trade partner of America; much like Japan, Germany and South Korea are today. However, this will take time; we’ve had troops in Japan, Germany and South Korea for over 50 years now! Who knows, Iraq and Afghanistan may follow the same route. Following WWII, it took time to rebuild Japan and Germany too. Let’s be patient, it’s only been 5 years since we went into Iraq – it took longer than that to rebuild Germany and Japan (following WWII). Let’s ‘Stay the course’ as you say, President Bush , because as you also say ‘we’d rather fight them (the terrorists, al-qaeda, etc.) in their Middle-East than in our Mid-West’. As a result of this strategy; we haven’t been attacked in 6+ years on US soil (since 9/11)-let’s keep it that way! Other nations in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc. have been attacked by terrorists such as Al-Qaeda since 9/11; but not us thanks to you, President Bush and your strong anti-terrorist stance. President Bush you have exhibited a strong anti-terrorist stance in defending the homeland by creating the Patriot Act (Wiretaps, surveillance, etc.), creating the Dept. of Homeland Security, providing increased funding for our Intelligence Agencies – CIA,FBI, NSA,etc in fighting the War on Terror against America’s leading enemies, the Islamo-Fascists. This however does not mean the terrorists have given up on attacking America at home; according to the FBI, several major and more minor attempts have been made by Al-Qaeda in the US nationwide since 9/11. Each time, thankfully the terrorists were caught by the FBI before they struck. Once again, thank you President Bush and the Patriot Act and FISA Act. It just goes to show, despite what the nay-sayers say, wiretaps save lives! Keep up the good work. If it were up to me I’d make you ‘President for Life’ and I am going to be very sad when you are no longer our President; I get very angry when I see people (liberals) who Keep a Countdown your days left in office or have impeach nonsense or have anti-bush bumperstickers with slogans like 1-20-09 (‘the end of an error’) and are in celebration mode. When I see these things I feel like punching their lights out and at the very least slashing their tires as well; and probably will someday if they keep it up! I truly feel that people like this(the anti-Bush haters) will be punished someday if not in this life then certainly in the next one by GOD and be sent to Hell for eternity for their animosity to a great man, great leader and an excellent family man and Christian who practices what he preaches an who turned his life around by finding God (becoming born again)which enabled you to overcome alcohol and substance abuse issues when you were a younger man. I credit you also for helping me to find God once again after being out in the ‘wilderness’ for many years after I finished High School (and I attended a parochial catholic school mind you). I believe I am also born-again thanks to your inspiration and your pro-christian stance on fundamental christian tenets such as opposing gay marriage and abortion. I also oppose these because God opposes them; the naysayers just need to read the Bible . Although do not belong to any current denomination (although I consider myself evangelical) I was raised Catholic but plan on becoming a Methodist in the near future.
    You have reinviogorated religious zeal in millions of Americans and I feel this gets overlooked often. Thanks to you, millions of Americans have returned to God or have been born-again I feel and I am one of them. I am very grateful to have a good Christian like yourself leading our country; America needed this after the 90’s and the decadent sleazy Sodom & Gomorrah Clinton years and thanks to you we are once again on our voyage back to Eden and social conservativeness. I want to bring America back to the wholesome days of the 50’s (ie. Happy Days) where kids got there mouths washed put with soap for cursing and teachers were allowed to discipline and hit unruly students. I think disciplining our unruly youth is very important and will keep them out of prison when they grow older and enable them to become productive citizens and good Americans; we should work toward allowing these things once again for the good of America. I believe this will enable us to combat the negative counter-culture we have today and that came about in the 60’s that is obsessed with sex and drugs and cursing and glorifies violence and crime Against the law enforcement community and other good patriotic Americans. I personally hate these types and admire the police and the military and our law enforcement authorities and can’t stand these anarchist nihilist types who are basically ‘rebels without a cause’ and destined for an eternal life in Hell come Judgement Day. Once again, thank you President Bush for all and your cabinet have done. I consider you a lot like greats who were also unjustly villified and even persecuted such as Lincoln and John the Baptist. It is without reservation that I predict that just like these 2 great men (and Saints even) are now certainly in Heaven for the righteous living (and their naysayers in Hell); the Kingdom of God will also be yours for you righteousness and good deeds and inspiring ways(and your naysayers will be doomed to Hell, God-willing). I know I certainly pray for this to come to fruition. Keep up the good work and righteously and successfully fulfilling your ‘charge’ (ie. A Charge to Keep) upon this Earth.

    Best regards and God Bless,

  • Here is the court order (it’s a .pdf link): http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/03/sieg0327080001.pdf

    The Order cites the law. Convicts won’t be released unless the court finds that “the appeal raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in reversal, [or] an order for a new trial on all counts…”

    Loosely paraphrased, this means “we only let imprisoned convicts walk on bail if it really, really, no kidding, looks like the either the prosecution’s case was crap or the judge screwed up big time.”

    That is a tough standard for a convict to meet, and it’s met. So my money is on the Governor and not on the feds.

  • Keep in mind, Seigleman lost the governorship of Alabama only after “6,000” votes (not 5,983 or 6,021), but exactly 6,000 votes were discovered in a county run entirely by Republicans, after midnight, after the Democrat election officials had gone home.
    I’m an election judge in Travis County, Texas. Were I guilty of such malfeasance, either by neglect or criminal intent, I’d be subject to criminal prosecution.

  • @Rambuncle
    Do I like admitting my errors? Not especially, but I do when I see there is good reason to. I still see this guy as a crook. If you think I’m wrong, convince me that what he did was right.

    @Crissa
    I’m happy to see crooked politicians get the boot, whether they are Dem or Republican. Randy “see my price list on the web” Cunningham and William “cold hard cash” Jefferson are both crooks, regardless of party affiliation. (Yes, I know that Jefferson hasn’t been convicted yet, but the evidence against him is tight enough for me to feel comfortable making a judgement.)

    I don’t know the details of these other three you refer to, and will respectfully decline to form a judgement about them until I learn more. I did read that Mr. Scrushy was “supportive” of Siegelman’s predecessor. I that one of the guys you refer to?

    If they are crooks, boot ’em out. I don’t care who they are.

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