Again with the WMD talk?

Years ago, I was having a conversation with a jazz pianist who told me, “When I hit a wrong note, I keep hitting it — so the audience will think it’s intentional.” To move away from the wrong note would be a subtle admission of a mistake.

I think House Intelligence Committee Chairman [tag]Peter Hoekstra[/tag] (R) lives by the same principle.

The chairman of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee accused U.S. intelligence chief [tag]John Negroponte[/tag]’s office on Thursday of downplaying the significance of [tag]chemical weapons[/tag] finds in Iraq.

Rep. Peter [tag]Hoekstra[/tag], a Michigan Republican, said in a letter to Negroponte that intelligence officials at a June 21 press briefing organized by his office misled journalists about the significance of 500 munitions containing [tag]mustard[/tag] and [tag]sarin[/tag] nerve agents discovered since May 2004.

Intelligence officials at the briefing told journalists the weapons predated the 1991 Gulf War, were too degraded to be used as originally intended and posed no threat to U.S. forces deployed in the region during the run-up to the 2003 invasion.

“I am very disappointed by the inaccurate, incomplete, and occasionally misleading comments made by the briefers,” Hoekstra said in the letter, a copy of which was released by his office.

Look, Hoekstra hit the wrong note last week. He and Rick [tag]Santorum[/tag] announced, falsely, that we’d found [tag]WMD[/tag] in [tag]Iraq[/tag], by pointing to old munitions shells that Saddam Hussein used in his war against Iran long before the first Gulf [tag]War[/tag], which weren’t even new since everyone already knew about them. Every military and intelligence official in DC said Hoekstra and Santorum are wrong, including Bush administration officials and the president’s hand-picked WMD investigators.

And yet, Hoekstra, like the jazz pianist, keeps hitting the note anyway. The difference is, the musician may get some credit for creativity. Hoekstra is just embarrassing himself.

[tag]David Kay[/tag], the CIA’s former chief weapons hunter in Iraq, tried to explain yesterday to members of the House Armed Services Committee (thanks to D.D. for the tip) that these 500 [tag]shells[/tag] are not what Hoekstra and Santorum want them to be.

As far back as September 2004, the CIA had disclosed the discovery of the old chemical munitions from Iraq’s war with Iran. The CIA also explained that these weapons were not the ones the Bush administration had used to justify the invasion of Iraq. What’s more, Kay said, the decades-old sarin nerve gas was probably no more dangerous than household pesticides — and far more likely to degrade at room temperature.

“In terms of toxicity, sir,” Kay told Weldon at one point, “I suspect in your house, and I know in my house, I have things that are more toxic than sarin produced from 1984 to 1988.”

Kay colleagues said the same thing.

[T]wo briefers for the Defense Intelligence Agency explained that the recovered weapons were too degraded to serve their original purpose and too delicate to be used as roadside explosives. “These munitions that were found were badly corroded in most cases,” said DIA analyst Col. [tag]John Chiu[/tag]. “Some were deliberately dismantled, if you will, to prevent them from being used.” To make matters worse, [tag]Terence Taylor[/tag], a former member of the U.N. Special Commission on Iraq, testified that the warheads’ designs made the nerve gas almost impossible to use outside of its original purpose. “I think it would be very difficult to extract the nerve agent from these [tag]weapons[/tag],” he said.

It’s been nearly three years since Charles [tag]Duelfer[/tag] said Iraq did not possess, or have concrete plans to develop, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. The weapons just aren’t there to be found. Santorum and Hoekstra are demonstrably wrong, and Rep. [tag]Curt Weldon[/tag]’s (R-Pa.) plan to secretly go digging around in the desert to prove otherwise is sheer madness.

How long can these guys keep hitting the wrong note before they realize how wrong it sounds?

I’m just glad that John Negroponte’s Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) is telling the truth about this stuff.

And that Ricky (man on dog) Santorum and Peter Hoekstra are left twisting in the wind as exposed spinmeisters who are trying to pull the wool over America’s eyes.

  • “Rep. Casey Weldon’s (R-Pa.)”

    Dammit CB, get the name of my idiot Congressman right.

    It’s Curt, not Casey.

  • It’s Curt, not Casey.

    Oops. Casey Weldon was the quarterback for FSU a few years ago (my wife’s favorite team). As far as I know, he’s quite sane and would probably be offended by the comparison.

  • What’s the big surprise? they’re rightwing Republicans, right?

    These people have great difficulty separating fact from fantasy. In fact, a close examination of everything they believe shows that it’s all fantasy!

  • CB, asks ,“How long can these guys keep hitting the wrong note before they realize how wrong it sounds?”

    n June 24, 1947, pilot Kenneth Arnold reported seeing disc- or saucer-shaped objects flying at high speed near Mt. Rainier in Washington state. In the days thereafter, hundreds of reports of the new “flying saucers” (or “flying disks”) appeared in newspapers across the United States
    During the first week of July 1947, rancher William “Mack” Brazel discovered a large amount of unusual debris scattered widely over his ranch about 75 miles northwest of Roswell. Neighbors told him about the new “flying disk” phenomenon and suggested he go to Roswell to report his find. Brazel informed the local sheriff in Roswell, George M. Wilcox, that he may have found a “flying disk” and Wilcox then contacted the local USAAF airbase in Roswell. The base commander, Colonel William Blanchard, sent his head Intelligence Officer, Major Jesse Marcel, with the head of the Roswell Army Counterintelligence Corps, Sheridan Cavitt, to investigate. Marcel and Cavitt went with Brazel to his ranch, retrieved some of the debris and returned with it to the Roswell base on the evening of July 7. Some debris was later flown to Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio, home of the USAAF’s aeronautical research labs.

    Roswell would indicate that this will be with us for at least sixty years. Of course there are those who don’t accept Darwin. That would indicate that we will have at least 150 years of this. Oh yea, then there are the JFK assassination theories. Basically, I say be prepared for this cropping up every so often as long as we live.

  • Jon Stewart showed Ricky “Man on Dog” Santorum on FOX news last night talking about WMD found in Iraq. If you have not seen it it is worth watching. One of the FOXies actually challenged him (I think it was Colmes) by saying the DOD spokesman stated these weapons were not a threat etc. etc. Santorum actually said he wanted to know the name of that spokes person and that he would wait for the “offical statement from the real DOD”. To cap off the apperance Ricky claimed to have classified documents supporting his position. In case you thoight that was just hot air, santorum actually held up a copy of teh classified document on TV and said “I have it right here”! A sitting US senator is now holding up classified documents about WMD on TV! I call for a full investigation into Senator Santorum for Treason!

  • Well, Rick and Peter have a right to be confused. This administration has been inventing their own reality for years but when others try to do it they won’t back them up. I know I’m mystified as to why not, especially right before an election. What can account for this fleeting moment of honesty from Negroponte?

  • “‘In terms of toxicity, sir,’ Kay told Weldon at one point, ‘I suspect in your house, and I know in my house, I have things that are more toxic than sarin produced from 1984 to 1988.'”

    What the hell is David Kay keeping in his house? A meth lab?

    CB,
    Seminoles, huh?
    asked the rabid Nebraska alum.

  • Were you aware that you have hidden links to other sites that are only BARELY visible as you pass your cursor over them? They are hidden smack dab in the middle of the blank space seperating your “hide more” and “comments”, and they are also on this page, one double space below the last line of the article.

    They lead to different articles labeled TAGS: (subject), so maybe it is perfectly normal and this is just the first time I ever came across such a thing on a blogsite

  • Bill, the links to the tags are visiable with Google Reader. I didn’t realize they were present but not visible when I directly loaded the page into my browser. I typically use FIrefox, but they don’t show up in IE either.

    CB can you or your tech support staff, i.e. Mrs. Carpetbagger, explain this to us?

  • Little Ricky and his little friend were mindless tools from the beginning. But now all the lies and pretences of their masters are coming apart so they get no cover from them like they used to. They’re just honestly too stupid to see it, and unable to come up with anything better. They’ll stop when they finally start hearing the laughter all around them. It’s getting louder all the time.

  • What does WMD being “new” have to do with it. Saddam said he had destroyed those WMD’s and he lied. That was the case made by the intel community going in. The fact they are old is the exclamation point on this report. These older shells should no longer exist.

    “A sitting US senator is now holding up classified documents about WMD on TV!”

    Typical liberal trash talk… It was a DEclassified document.

  • mark, what fantasy world are you living. Look at the facts, not the fiction from fox news propaganda –and why haven’t you enlisted?

  • So what you’re saying Mark is that the justification for going to Iraq was Bushit?

    Mark. (the good one)

  • In response to Mark’s (the first one) comments, all I have to say is this:

    What part of the phrase “usable shelf life” do you not understand? Have you ever looked at the expiration dates on any of the food you purchase? If so, then you should be acquainted with the idea that some items degrade and become totally unusable (or inedible) with time. By the time anyone was requiring Saddam to provide an itemized list of his supposed WMD stockpiles, these old degraded, chemical rounds from an earlier war were already unusable for any purpose other than acting as huge paperweights. For Santorum and others to bring them up now as “proof” that Saddam was lying about having WMD’s in 2002/3, is just a crock. The only way these shells could have hurt anyone (assuming they didn’t explode the barrel of the gun firing them) would be for them to land on their head(s).

  • The UN resolutions introduced and broken over and over concerned Sadam’s possession of WMDs and his obligation to remove any and all weapons from the country and prove to UN inspectors that Iraq was clean. It doesn’t matter how degraded the sarin and mustard gass shells were (and mustard gas doesn’t break down too well) it was simply illegal for Sadam to possess them and possibly indicates that more & newer examples exist elsewhere.

    The point here is that, however thin, it makes the whole “illegal war” arguement wrong. You can debate the wisdom of such a decision and the strength of it’s reason but the initial legality stands, for good or ill.

  • Don’t make us laugh: The ISG found in their report that Iraq had unilaterally decided to destroy its remaining stocks of Chemical and Bio weapons way back in 1991, in order to get sanctions lifted. The evidence is that the Iraqi’s attempted to carry out this policy.

    The shells that are being found are not representative of some sort of secret stockpile, they are a few scattered items misplaced out of tens of thousands used in the confusion of war. Some of them are found buried, indicative of the chosen method of disposal.

    There is no reason why the Iraqi’s would have kept these things around if they had known they were there – it was against their own interests and policy.

    Conclusion: The Iraqis didn’t know where they had put all their old CB munitions. They didn’t dare tell anyone this as they knew certain parties may use this as a pretext for military action. Hence the denials.

    Are you saying that the presence of 15 year old Sarin shells buried in the desert and forgotten even by the Iraqi’s constitutes a ‘material breach’? If so you are comically deluded.

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