Again with WMD?

For crying out loud, are war supporters still making the case for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Forget shame, don’t these guys want to shy away from utter humiliation?

Apparently not.

Redstate ran an item yesterday, highlighting an article from the far-right Washington Times, which noted that U.S. troops found “31 barrels of nitric acid Saturday in the walled-off front yard of a house that had been raided less than two weeks earlier.” RS labeled the nitric acid a chemical weapon and talked up the implications of all of this with considerable excitement.

So, the bad guys are making chemical weapons in Iraq…chemical weapons are classified by the UN as WMDs…so there are WMDs in Iraq…wait. That can’t be right. The reality-based community said they weren’t.

Ditto al-Qaeda in Iraq – they definitely aren’t there. Wait…

It’s hard to believe that as the war in Iraq starts its fifth year, war supporters remain completely convinced that long-settled disputes about WMD and al Qaeda are not only still open to debate, but that well-established truths are all wrong.

But as long as high-profile conservative blogs are going to take the time to disseminate nonsense, I suppose we should take the time to debunk it.

Chemistry PhD, Globalsecurity.org senior fellow, and blogger extraordinaire George Smith talked to Danger Room and set the record straight.

Nitric acid is one of the big three common strong inorganic acids, hydrochloric and sulfuric being the other two. It wouldn’t be practical as a chemical weapon and there’s no way to make it so. Of the three acids mentioned, it’s the easiest to handle, although all are common and pose no threat when clearly labeled. Burns skin slowly, staining it yellow. Is not particularly hazardous if spilled although you wouldn’t want to walk in it. In terms of inorganic acid spills, HCl [hydrochloric acid] makes a bigger and far more noticeable mess. And as a corrosive directly against skin, sulfuric acid is the worst of the three. None have any application as chemical weapons in the classic sense.

HN03 [nitric acid] can be used to make homemade TNT — although why this would be necessary in Iraq is beyond me. You would have suspected to find a lot of toluene and sulfuric acid, too, if this were the case.

Looks like the diversion of industrial chemicals, hoping they’ll get lucky with something. That won’t happen with the level of savvy which seems to be indicated.

Noah Shachtman concluded, “Why are folks so damn eager to cry ‘chemical weapon’ any time a new explosive is found in Iraq?”

The answer, of course, is that war supporters, though they’re loath to admit it, are rather humiliated by the war. They cling to a pipe dream that somehow, someday, some kind of evidence will emerge pointing to Saddam’s integral role in 9/11, massive stockpiles of WMD, and a photo of Osama bin Laden picking up bags of money in downtown Baghdad. Then, the fiasco in Iraq will have been justified and all will be right in the world.

Or, put another way, they’re so eager because they don’t much for this reality, and are desperate to bolster their own.

Hooh boy nitric acid! Scary Stuff Kids! George Smith did a great job of neutralizing that base idea (sorry about the bad Chem puns.)

What’s the next WMD claim? Someone found Windex or toilet cleaner in one of Saddam’s homes?

Fucking. Idiots.

  • I think that nitric acid can be used in the manufacture of explosives, but by the same terms, any farmer with a load of nitrate-based fertilizer has a WMD in his farmyard as well….

  • Ah, yes. Right Wing Logic.

    Salt is a chemical.
    Chemical weapons are WMDs.
    Iraq has salt.
    Ergo, Iraq has WMDs.

    Oh, and al Qaeda was in Iraq? Al Qaeda was in the US. The Right Wing point is….what? That Saddam didn’t defy the US restrictions and go after Zarqawi when he was in Kurdish territory? Morons.

  • It saddens me when apologists promote such malarky. The measure of anyone is his/her ability to accept responsibility for what it is s/he has done, no matter how tragic their folly may have been. I agree, holdouts on the WMD issue are embarrassing at the least, and McGoo-like in their endless efforts to see only what they wish to see. -Kevo

  • I’m surprised they haven’t found caches of WMD materials in every Iraqi home yet, since if an Iraqi were to mix Clorox and ammonia together they could readily make chlorine gas which could be used as a chemical weapon.

    In fact, every Iraqi household also has copious amounts of materials that could be used to make shivs for attacking US soldiers. What a dangerous country indeed.

  • RedState: permanent pre-adolescents whose existence proves the disaster of the home-indoctrination (no “schooling” going on there) movement. It there is a collective low double-digit IQ there, I would be amazed.

  • We have nitric acid here in America too. (That’s in addition to the 7000 ready-to-deploy nukes and the new bunker-busters and mini-nukes we’re developing.)

    We may be blind to this amazing hypocrisy, but the rest of the world is not.

  • Well I’ll tell you something my lad. When you’re walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don’t come crying to me!

  • Schwag –
    All Python references welcome.

    Now, Redstate may have as much (unintended) humor as the Flying Circus, but that’s because they have trouble with complicated stuff. Also why Commander Codpiece is their guy, he don’t do nuance. French, ain’t that word?

  • No one ever really believed in WMD in Iraq. At best it would just be a lucky find. We had fully planned to plant WMD’s but couldn’t get it done without being found out. The war was fun…A chance to show the world just how powerful and frightening our military is…riding across the desert at top speed, bombs bursting everywhere…yahoo. Rumsfeld and Cheney throwing money up in the air with both fists, Haliburton et al uncorking the champagne bottles, Bush cronies packing hundred dollar bills on skids by the billions to dump in the war zone…what a party. Meanwhile the press back home feeding the voters WMDs, terrorism, and liberators to a tyrant. Still there are those who need a reason to believe or rather, justify the big lie. The WMD is the General Custer war plan implemented, predictably, by the yahoo cowboys known as the Bush Administration. And they lost and still don’t know it and so continue to lose as long as they continue to act like Custer

  • Here’s what I don’t get. Even if they are finding WMDs NOW, when they couldn’t find them when we first inva, er, I mean, LIBERATED Iraq, doesn’t it stand to reason that this means the WMDs came in AFTER we got in Iraq? Which means that all our best efforts aren’t working? In fact, doesn’t it mean that we’ve made things worse over there, because chemical weapons that weren’t in Iraq 4 years ago are there NOW?

    Heckuva snow job, Bushies…

  • ***U.S. troops found “31 barrels of nitric acid Saturday in the walled-off front yard of a house***

    What—just sitting there in the sun? HNO3 decomposed under thermal/illuminatory conditions (that means it breaks down when exposed to heat or light, for all the non-chemistry types out there in the world).

    Now if you had told me that they found a few hundred gallons of turpentine at the same site as the nitric acid, then I’d be a bit worried. But 31 barrels of sun-exposed, unrefrigerated nitric all by its lonesome is no big deal….

  • They cling to a pipe dream that somehow… the fiasco in Iraq will have been justified and all will be right in the world.

    Even if a bunker was unearthed tomorrow showing Saddam’s secret stockpile of Fat Man & Little Boys, the fiasco will not have been completely justified. True, it might take some of the stink off the Preventive War doctrine, but it won’t absolve the sins of George W. Bush in destroying a country in order to save it. Or save us. Whatever.

    If the Union had lost the Civil War, would Lincoln still be a hero? The cause was just but the execution (in this most common of alternate univereses) would have been manifestly bungled.

  • Anyone else notice that “reality-based” is not in snarky quotes? Freudian slip perhaps? Could it be that deep down they realize that they are clinging to a fantasy and utterly full of shit?

    Nah…

    -jjf

  • Are we sure it was “nitric” and not “citric” acid? A typo is easy to make, when you get overly excited…

  • Oh my God! Call in more troops, more airstrikes, give ’em shock and awe! Why, now that we consider acids to be WMD, I hear rumor they are hiding all over Iraq. Most are cleverly disgusied, but we wont be fooled (hey, fool me once shame on. . . we wont get fooled again!)

    I hear they are hiding ascorbic acid in what appears to be orange juice, carbonic acid in soda cans, acetylsalicylic acid may be hidden in nearly every Iraqi’s medicine cabinet, boric acid may be in their garages as well (just look at how it kills silverfish! deadly!)

    or it could just be that these wingers have taken too much lysergic acid.

  • The Al-Qaqaa Military Complex, which Buscho failed to guard, even after in-person IAEA warnings,

    contained a WELL-KNOWN NITRIC ACID PRODUCTION FACILITY.

    And, yes, several commenters above notwithstanding, Nitric Acid IS primarily a bomb-making material, and that’s why it was UNDER IAEA SEAL before Bushco decided to invade and not guard ANY of the munitions dumps and complexes in Iraq (Thanks, George!). 340 metric tons of high-explosives are MISSING — and apparently a large amount of nitric acid as well.

    What has been found was probably under seal when Bushco invaded.

    UNMOVIC inspected the nitric acid factory at Al-Qaqaa on 02 Feb 2, just before the invasion.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/al_qa_qaa_chron.htm (note that global security account falsely dates this visit as occuring in 2003).

  • Correction, the visit by UNMOVIC was, of course, in 03 Feb as global security noted, just before the invasion.

    • When does the media, including the alternative media, start noticing that Al-Qaqaa WAS NOT GUARDED, that NO orders were written to guard ANY of the munitions dumps, including the nine nuclear reserves?

    It’s either criminal negligence or treason.

  • You all are obviously very intelligent,”objective” people on this issue. However, Nitric acid was monitored by the UNMOVIC and UNSCOM (particularly IRFNA) because it is an essential element of missile fuel (like the SCUD, NO DONG and GHAURI) restricted by the UN resolutions and a violation UN res 687 and others. This stuff was not just just to launch bottle rockets but fuel that is currently being used by Iran, Syria, North Korea, Pakistan and any number of MTCR “abiding” countries. To just dismiss it as another race to say that their was no violations of UN resolutions is crap. I have been to QaQA seen the acid plant and what the stuff is for. Now can it be used for other purposes—knock yourself out it can be used for anything but to just say it was around and has been degraded by light or heat to result in a happy and harmless by product is like saying DDT is fine now.
    Now Go

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