Al Qaeda gaffe dogs McCain, undermines campaign rationale

During a press conference yesterday, John McCain, a self-described expert on matters of national security and international affairs, made a very high-profile screw-up — he falsely insisted that al Qaeda terrorists are being trained in Iran to fight in Iraq. What’s more, he asserted without hesitation that this is “common knowledge.”

Of course, McCain’s claim didn’t make any sense. He was speaking with authority about the basics in the Middle East, and getting the regional dynamic backwards. The campaign scrambled to minimize the damage.

“In a press conference today, John McCain misspoke and immediately corrected himself by stating that Iran is in fact supporting radical Islamic extremists in Iraq, not Al Qaeda — as the transcript shows. Democrats have launched political attacks today because they know the American people have deep concerns about their candidates’ judgment and readiness to lead as commander in chief.”

Dems highlighted the fact that McCain doesn’t know what he’s talking about because we’re worried about Clinton and Obama? If you say so.

But the key part of the response was the notion that McCain “misspoke and immediately corrected himself.” That’s not what happened at all. McCain made the claim on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, then he made it again in Jordan, and then made it again before Joe Lieberman whispered in his ear that he was wrong. This isn’t indicative of someone who accidentally flubbed a line; this is someone who genuinely believed a claim that didn’t make any sense.

Of course, a gaffe only matters if voters hear about it.

I nearly fell out of my chair yesterday when the AP reported on McCain’s “concern” over Iranian influence in Iraq, but edited out the al Qaeda reference: “McCain also voiced concern that Tehran is bringing militants over the border into Iran for training before sending them back to fight U.S. troops in Iraq.”

Reporters fawning over McCain is one thing, but are major media outlets really prepared to start helping McCain directly like this? Fortunately, the AP picked up on reality shortly thereafter.

Sen. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting, mistakenly said Tuesday that Iran was allowing al-Qaida fighters into the country to be trained and returned to Iraq…. Iran has been accused by the United States of funding, training and arming Iraqi Shiite militants in their uprising against the United States. But there have been no allegations by Washington and no evidence that al-Qaida has benefited from Iranian assistance. […]

McCain’s gaffe immediately drew criticism from the Democratic National Committee, which insisted he must not understand the challenges facing Iraq.

“Not only is Senator McCain wrong on Iraq once again, but he showed he either doesn’t understand the challenges facing Iraq and the region or is willing to ignore the facts on the ground,” said Democratic National Committee Communications Director Karen Finney.

It also got at least some play in the major dailies, with the NYT noting that McCain “misidentified some of the main players in the Iraq war,” and the WaPo reporting that he “incorrectly asserted Tuesday that Iran is training and supplying al-Qaeda in Iraq, confusing the Sunni insurgent group with the Shiite extremists who U.S. officials believe are supported by their religious brethren in the neighboring country.”

To be sure, yesterday was a pretty busy one in the political world, but if there’s any justice at all, McCain will face a little more heat over this. It wasn’t a minor error or the result of a misspoken word. As hilzoy explained very well, “It’s important to be clear about exactly how clueless this is…. No one who had any understanding at all of Iraq, or for that matter about the Shi’a/Sunni split and which side Iran was on, would get confused about this, any more than someone with any knowledge of US politics would get confused about whether neo-confederates were likely to be supporting blacks, or conservatives were likely to be supporting the Socialist Workers’ Party. It is exactly that clueless.”

And just as an aside, Mark Kleiman has an excellent suggestion: “Given McCain’s buffoonish performance in Jordan, wouldn’t this be a good time for Hillary Clinton to say, ‘Gee, I thought he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief, but it sure doesn’t sound like it. The least we should expect from the President is some basic knowledge about who our enemies are.'”

One aspect of this, I think, needs more attention. The Republicans and their allies in the press consistently refer to all victims of US strikes and all perpetrators of crimes in Iraq as al Qaeda (it used to be terrorists, but of late the term has morphed.). What makes McCain’s statement stick out was that he linked it to Iran, where pretty much everybody will agree is not helping AQI. I don’t think it was so much ignorance on McCain’s part as it was sloppy talking points. Meanwhile, the insincerity is far more widespread than these recent statements.

  • It seems McCain is embracing the confused, convoluted world view of our beloved Bushite NeoCons. So inexplicable is their ability to misjudge just what “common knowledge” is. A disaster of their making is ongoing in the Middle East, and Bush’s people are trying to pass the mantle to McCain, who as of yesterday has shown his capability to spout unwise foreign policy jabberwocky for all to see. -Kevo

  • You’ve got to remember, McCain’s part of the same people who insisted that the Soviets were in league with Communist China to take over the world, despite the fact that the Soviets didn’t like the Chinese. As I suggested yesterday, they just want to see one big bad enemy, and don’t care if it makes any sense. McCain’s statement on Iran helping Al Qaeda wasn’t a gaffe; it’s official neo-con policy.

  • Maybe like Economics, which he admits he never learned anything about, McCain in his dotage no longer has useful information in areas where he ought reasonably to have knowledge. Like the Shi’a/Sunni division within Islam.

    Somebody should ask him whether Qum is in North or South Vietnam.

  • Once upon a time, as witnessed by his many medals and his harrowing experience as a POW, John McCain knew who the enemy was. Unfortunately, it now seems to be anyone who stands between him and the presidency. And it would be well to remember this man seeks to be the last tripwire in the chain of events that sends the American military to war. Sloppy talking points or genuine ignorance is irrelevant, as we have seen, when the wrong country is attacked, and John McCain tosses around threats to attack this one and that one and pursue so-and-so to the gates of hell, as if he thinks the U.S. military is about 50% of the population.

    Everyone should be nervous at the thought of a McCain presidency, and nobody should be more nervous than the military.

  • “wouldn’t this be a good time for Hillary Clinton to say, ‘Gee, I thought he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief, but it sure doesn’t sound like it. The least we should expect from the President is some basic knowledge about who our enemies are.’”

    This would also be a good time for Obama to say – “if this is the kind of ‘lifetime of experience’ Hillary was talking about with reference to herself and McCain, then I don’t WANT that kind of experience. I would much rather have the judgement and knowledge about who our enemies are”.

  • olbermann played it up on his show last night, showing the footage of leiberman whispering the right answer in his ear. lindsay graham was squirming — it was a treat. this should become a DNC YouTube staple, and it should come up when the search criteria is ‘reverend wright’ 😉

    relatedly, mathews showed a clip of the letterman show taking the piss out of mccain in a piece that highlighted mccain’s age (“He’s OLD!” the piece concluded). putting these two puzzle pieces together shouldn’t be that hard for the dems in creating some serious doubts about who’s even able to get out of bed at 3 a.m.

  • Speaking of the Cold War (post #3), a common rationale for the war in Vietnam was that if we left, then the North Vietnamese would join with Communist China and dominate the region. The argument went that we needed a “free” South Vietnam as a buffer against Red Chinese dominos. Of course nearly the opposite happened. Once we left, China invaded Vietnam, by the Vietnamese repulsed them, creating a much better buffer than the one we thought we had to create. My point is that politicians often do not know much more than talking points and if McCain is slightly clueless, then it’s nothing new. Slogans may sound “smart” but they are only battle cries.

  • McCain is on record talking about the madhi army being trained in Iran.

    McCain hasn’t slept in a week. Because of the votes last week in the senate he was flying back and forth from the campaign trail. Now he has been flying all around the middle east.

    Obama said 10,000 people died in an earthquake.

    Obama referred to the canadian leader as the canadian prime minister.

    Hillary said Musharraf was up for election when he wasn’t.

    McCain has many times in the past referred to shiites being trained in iran.

    By the way Iran does train some sunnis. They train Islamic Jihad and Hamas which are sunnis. They have trained some taliban operatives to cause mischeif in afghanistan.

    There have also been reports of them letting go bin laden’s son and al saad a top al queda leader. There have also been reports of them training al queda in iraq in iran.

    Iran’s biggest enemy is the u.s. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

    Iran has basically built Hamas’s new army in gaza and supplied them weapons this notion of a strict sunni/shiite rift isn’t accurate.

  • What exactly is the Canadian leader? I’ve lived in Canada all my life, and that’s all we ever called him. Let’s see….Canadian president….mullah….plenipotentiary….rajah…..nope, he’s the Prime Minister.

  • Obama I mean referred to the leader of canada as the president of canada.

    Is he now disqualified?

    Get over it McCain is on record in countless senate hearings talking about shiite extremists training in Iran.

    He campaigned non stop last week going to events, fundraisers, then flying back to vote in the senate, now flying all over the middle east.

    McCain also gives the media unlimited access. He is constantly giving press conferences on his plane, non stop press conferences on his bus and several other press conferences a day.

    McCain opens himself up to the press about 20 times more than Obama or Clinton who rarely open themselves up to the press.

    McCain had a son serving in Iraq. He said he has talked to him at length about the conditions there.

    McCain is on record talking about how shiite madhi army is training in Iran.

    McCain was given a breifing in Mosul about an upcoming offensive against al queda there.

    Having not slept in a week his train of thought was on al queda. He clearly knows the difference.

    Ever hear of jet lag.

    If you want to play this then how about playing president of canada, or musharraf running for re-election from Hillary when he wasn’t on the ballot.

    How about Hillary saying she was never for the war when she is on tape march 5, 2003 being for the invasion.

    Or Hillary in New Hampshire saying she doesn’t think michigan votes should be counted.

    Hillary made countless gaffes during the bhutto assasination.

    I guess Obama really thought 10,000 people died in an earthquake.

    Canada has had a prime minister for 140 years and Obama said the president of Canada.

    Where was this site on those gaffes.

  • Obama referred to the canadian leader as the canadian prime minister.

    And then I heard he referred to the American leader as the president! What an idiot!

  • My bad Obama said 10,000 people died in a tornado in small kansas town.

    Somehow I don’t remember this site highlighting that.

  • Obama referred to the Canadian leader as the Canadian president.

    Obama said this in the first debate it is on youtube.

    But it got almost no play.

    That gaffe is brutal. Canada has been under parliamentary system for 140 years.

    They are our northern neighbor.

    But Obama got excused for that gaffe.

  • Jason, McCan made the Al Qaeda/Iran connection several times. It wasn’t just a normal slip of the tongue.

  • Obama I mean referred to the leader of canada as the president of canada. Is he now disqualified?

    If the central basis of his campaign were his ability to negotiate with Canadian leaders, then yes.

    McCain has made foreign policy the benchmark of his campaign, with specific focus on the war, and he doesn’t even recognize the major players.

    Good thing he’s an expert on the economy. Oh, wait…

  • wow! thought i’d dropped in on the wrong site this morning. had to double check to make sure………

  • jason,

    obama is still young enough to learn from his mistakes. but you know what they say about old dogs…

  • Come on, Jason, give it a rest. Everybody makes slips of the tongue, like you just did with “earthquake vs tornado” (easily confused.)

    This wouldn’t even be worth a glance if it weren’t the third time. Since it is the third time, “senior moment” is out as an explanation, leaving “deliberate deception” (TR missed that one) or “woeful lack of understanding”.

    Or it could be my own choice: “McCain simply doesn’t care.” After all, if the Bush and Reagan presidencies has taught us anything, it’s that you have to neither know nor understand anything to be a GOP president.

  • Maybe the press corpse, instead of daydreaming about the next McCain BBQ party, should follow him around a bit, and tape what he says, and then check the transcript against what is generally called “reality”. If they did that, they might find a lot of other things he is clueless about, not just this one glaring example.

    But then why would the press want to keep a guy who’s clueless from being president? Who cares, right? After all, he’s fun to have a beer with!

    Wake UP, press corpse!

    You FAILED us six years ago, and because you did, we’re still in Iraq. 4,000 dead Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead (probably) and millions displaced, because you didn’t bother to check the statements of the Bush regime. Now Bush’s successor is prancing around, and it’s apparent that he is as clueless and as full of crap as Bush ever was. But unless you tell the public what you know NOW, they will only find out after it’s too late. And if you let McCain slide on his idiocy, and help him get elected, and he does what he’s joked about, the next war will be on you too.

    DO YOU WANT THAT?

  • This wasn’t a gaffe, this is what Stephen Colbert described as “truthiness,” it’s “truth that comes from the gut, not books.”

    McCain said this because he wants it to be true. Spinning a narrative like this bolsters his arguments so he popped the cork on this doozy. This is what the Bushies did to get us into Iraq in the first place: they projected their desired images of reality onto the public to get their way.

    The gaffe that has been repeated so much that it has become the accepted norm is referring to a certain organized element of Iraq’s extremists as “al Qaida” rather than its true name which is “al Qaida in Iraq.” The image conjured up by the name al Qaida is that of Osama bin Laden, the guy that actually attacked us on 9/11. Al Qaida in Iraq is a copycat group using the name because it sounds cool, but they had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and never even existed until we attacked a sovereign nation to depose its leader …. and grab its oil.

  • It is easy — and oh, so satisfying — to make fun of McCain’s

    1. senior moment
    2. deep confusion
    3.lack of concern for details (take your pick)

    But what if it was intentional, in much the same way Cheney et al talked about Saddam and al Qaeda in the same breath in the run-up to the Iraq invasion?

    Kyle Moore over at Comments from Left Field makes the scary point that this was no slip; it was an intentional building-block for an attack on Iran. http://tinyurl.com/35jn2r

  • Somehow I don’t remember this site highlighting that. -Jason

    Well, Jason, you may not remember it, but Obama’s error was mentioned. Weird, it only took me about four seconds of searching to find that.

    The difference is Obama acknowledged and corrected himself after one mistake, which was nothing more than a slip of the tongue. McCain is lying about AQ to fan the flames of fear. There’s a million miles of difference between misunderstanding some of the basic facts of the Iraq war and Islamic religious history and mistakenly referring to a Prime Minister as a President.

    You really need to get some perspective. You also need to realize that not every single sentence you write deserves to be a paragraph.

  • Jason

    Is our army occupying Canada right now? I know that they got oil and all and they may be on the wish list, but exactly how does not knowing the proper title for ol’ what’s his name mean a damn thing.

    And I seem to remember your boy Bush having a hard time finding Canada on a map way back in the day.

  • It must have been true, ’cause our fearless leader has said it numerous times. Everybody knows he wouldn’t mislead us. Our vice president has said it numerous times, and he’s never wrong, right?

  • Jason

    McCain is running on Irak. He better convince us that he has a substantially more thorough understanding of that place than his bud. Because his buddy, who is utterly devoid of any semblance of clue, didn’t know there were sectarian differences there in the first place. He thought “aren’t they muslims, uh what’s the deal.”

  • McCain should NOT be held accountable for such gaffes, after all,
    the poor man is 70 years old! Let’s show him a little respect!

  • Let’s all try to understand Jason.

    By excusing McCain’s gaffe and comparing it to other (far more minor) errors committed by the Democratic opponents, he is stating that he would prefer the Republican approach to world politics. American empire, private militaries, massive corruption, and making more enemies around the world while bankrupting the US is fine with him (the human slaughter has been mentioned in previous comments).

    At this point I would insult him for this preference, but do I really need to do that?

  • Or it could be my own choice: “McCain simply doesn’t care.”
    –Charles

    DING! DING! DING!

    The fact McNotamaverick repeated the claim numerous times wasn’t an accident, or a gaffe, or anything other than an intentional twisting of facts to try and justify perpetual war.

    The guy doesn’t give a damn if we’re in Iraq for another, oh, 10 to 1,000 years, and the only way to do that is to conflate against whom we are fighting. It’s the same tactic Cheney, Bush, Rummy, and nearly every other war supporter has made and continues to make.

    Of course, saying it over and over and over again won’t make it true, but that won’t stop them from trying.

  • Given McCain’s tendency to embrace all sides of any issue — against Falwell then for him, against tax cuts then for them, for immigrationj reform then against it, for campaign finance reform then against it, etc. etc. — I’d like to select “all of the above” in his honor.

  • I for one am not convinced this was a mistake. He did it three times, meaning no one caught it but Lieberman, right. Old Joe is a lot of thing, but the smartest guy on stage isn’t one of them.

    He has how many people on his staff trained to analyze every word and every nuance. Yes they missed a far off base al Qaeda quote.

    Not buying it, they were beating drums and if Lieberman had not interjected I wonder if the zombie media would have caught it ?

  • ScottW

    I don’t know about if it was done on purpose. I seem to remember during the debates, just about every Repub on stage was shaking in their shoes hoping to avoid the question about the differences between Sunni and Shia.

    Rudy got the question and was visually perturbed by it, of course he’s an idiot, so I can understand why.

  • ScottW raises an interesting possibility:

    they were beating drums and if Lieberman had not interjected I wonder if the zombie media would have caught it?

    Indeed. But even when the DFHs (that would be us) pointed this out to them, they still seem reluctant to point out the major goof by McCrazyOldGuy. Some of the zombies even went so far as to correct McNutjob’s goof for him and not tell anyone they did so.

    I think they’re in the tank again, because you just can’t have enough wars. Wars are good for the economy, which is very important.*

    * and utterly false.

  • they were beating drums and if Lieberman had not interjected I wonder if the zombie media would have caught it?

    Hmm. That’s a good one. They’re stenographers, after all, not fact checkers.

  • I wonder if reporters would have even picked up on McCain’s mistake if Lieberman had not publicly whispered in his ear. It’s one thing for McCain to spout this stupidity in Hickville, Florida, but in Jordan where they know what’s going on it’s particularly bad.

  • It’s as stupid as declaring that Robert E. Lee was secretly training Yankee soldiers.

    There, that seems like a nice, crisp way of explaining the magnitude of the mistake in a way that everybody will understand.

  • Lieberman, the neocon was at his side for support. Sometimes that can be a good clue as to your intended audience and the meaning of the message … oops, I mean gaffe.

  • “Today, the Algerian city of Oran was the site of one of the most intense bombing campaigns since the ‘shock and awe” attack against Iraq in 2003.”

    “President McCain, in a press conference today, stated “Okay, so I was off by one letter. Sue me.”

  • And just as an aside, Mark Kleiman has an excellent suggestion: “Given McCain’s buffoonish performance in Jordan, wouldn’t this be a good time for Hillary Clinton to say, ‘Gee, I thought he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief, but it sure doesn’t sound like it. The least we should expect from the President is some basic knowledge about who our enemies are.’”

    If Hillary would start talking like that about McCain then I would be willing to vote for her in November despite the dirty tricks she would have to pull to get the nomination. At least she would be showing some grasp of reality beyond her own self-interest. McCain’s comments (apparently he also said something similar on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show the day before so this appears to have been an intentional attempt to muddy the waters) show him scarily unfit to lead the nation.

  • Why, the connections are so impossible that the media and government have only been reporting on them for…years.

    The Clinton Administration noted Iran training Al Qaeda.

    http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/pdfs/binladen/indict.pdf

    The 9/11 Commission reported on it:

    http://www.meforum.org/article/670

    The Washington Post reported on it on two occasions:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4191-2004Jul21.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6581-2004Jun25.html

    And the NY Sun Reported on It:

    http://www.nysun.com/article/43442

    But it’s impossible! Right?

  • Benson,

    A careful reading of those sources you quote says that there is some evidence that Iran, through its Hezbollah and Hamas clients, may have had some operational relationship with Al Qaeda. The relationship was disputed by others, including intelligence sources. It’s by no means certain that it ever existed.

    Please note the dates — this interaction was in the 90’s. There is simply NO reliable evidence for Iran training Iraqi Sunni insurgents in the last several years, as McCain asserted.

    Nice straw-man argument, though.

  • So, for McCain’s defenders (on the premise that he misidentified the enemy, or accused Iran of helping the wrong people) who suggest he was just tired – is that situation ever likely to arise again? In a time of crisis, whether it be economic, foreign policy or otherwise….the president is likely to be tired and sleepless. That would not excuse him or her then, if he or she attacked a sovereign nation based on confusion that they were doing something threatening. It shouldn’t excuse him while he’s only interviewing for the position, as it were.

    Like they say, if you can’t take the heat, the kitchen’s no place for you.

  • whoa .. i thought our invasion was supposed to release a groundswell of supressed democracy in the middle east .. yearning to break free .. bubbling up uncontrollablly …

    what the fuck happened ???

  • All you need to know is Mccain knows how to shoot the gun. The other two need to read the manual. Fire ready aim.

  • 9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran

    By ADAM ZAGORIN AND JOE KLEIN
    Friday, Jul. 16, 2004

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html

    Iran’s Secret Plan For Mayhem

    By ELI LAKE
    Staff Reporter of the Sun
    January 3, 2007

    http://www.nysun.com/article/46032?page_no=1

    WASHINGTON — Iran is supporting both Sunni and Shiite terrorists in the Iraqi civil war, according to secret Iranian documents captured by Americans in Iraq.

    The news that American forces had captured Iranians in Iraq was widely reported last month, but less well known is that the Iranians were carrying documents that offered Americans insight into Iranian activities in Iraq.

    An American intelligence official said the new material, which has been authenticated within the intelligence community, confirms “that Iran is working closely with both the Shiite militias and Sunni Jihadist groups.” The source was careful to stress that the Iranian plans do not extend to cooperation with Baathist groups fighting the government in Baghdad, and said the documents rather show how the Quds Force — the arm of Iran’s revolutionary guard that supports Shiite Hezbollah, Sunni Hamas, and Shiite death squads — is working with individuals affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq and Ansar al-Sunna.

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