All of a sudden, Hillary Clinton has ‘really grown on’ the McCain campaign

The timing is remarkable. Just as Hillary Clinton wraps up her presidential campaign, John McCain’s team decides that she wasn’t such a bad candidate after all. Remarkable.

Late yesterday, about four hours after Clinton suspended her campaign and threw her support to Barack Obama, Michael Goldfarb, the official McCain blogger, posted a picture of McCain and Clinton together, over a complimentary post.

Senator Clinton has really grown on us over here [at McCain campaign headquarters] over the past few months. She ran an impressive campaign, and proved herself to be an impressive candidate and as John McCain has said, inspired a generation of women. Ultimately, and ironically, it seems she fell victim to a vast left-wing conspiracy that resented her generally centrist foreign policy views (early support for the Iraq war, support for Kyl-Lieberman, unwavering support for Israel, etc.). […]

Senator Clinton also didn’t mention John McCain once during her speech. This came as something of a surprise over here, and a pleasant one at that. But it’s clear that John McCain and Hillary Clinton respect each other — and there is a genuine affection for her here at McCain HQ.

First, Clinton’s foreign-policy views were plenty progressive, and her condemnation of the Bush/McCain vision of the world was sweeping and sincere. Trying to characterize Hillary Clinton as someone vaguely sympathetic to McCain’s neocon worldview is ridiculous.

Second, there are plenty of reasons to explain why Clinton came up just short of winning the nomination, but a “vast left-wing conspiracy” that “resented” Clinton’s “unwavering support for Israel” isn’t one of them. For those of who’ve watched the Democratic race over the last year, can anyone think of a serious effort to criticize Clinton over her policy towards Israel? In a way that actually affected the race?

And third, it’s interesting that Clinton has “grown on” the McCain gang now, because the senator and his team have been trashing her for quite a while.

It’s one of the ironies of the notion that some ardent Clinton backers would consider backing McCain — they’re open to backing a conservative Republican who’s been belligerent, and times even vicious, towards the Democratic candidate they support.

For example, last October, in one of his first television campaign ads, McCain mocked Clinton over an earmark she supported, insisting that her spending priorities make her unfit to be president.

Indeed, throughout 2007, when McCain assumed Clinton would be the Democratic nominee, he used quite a few of his debate appearances to trash Clinton. In a May 2007 debate, McCain admonished Clinton for wanting to make the Supreme Court “take a very sharp turn to the left.” In a June 2007 debate, McCain condemned Clinton’s approach to the war in Iraq, insisting she “doesn’t understand” the conflict. In a January 2008 debate, McCain said Clinton wants to “wave the white flag of surrender” and produce a victory for al Qaeda.

And in November 2007, when a supporter asked a question that characterized Clinton as “a bitch,” John McCain praised this as “an excellent question.”

And as recently as a few weeks ago, McCain adviser Alex Castellanos appeared on CNN, also characterizing Clinton as “a bitch.”

McCain’s disdain for the Clintons is not limited to the campaign, either. It was McCain, for example, who voted (twice) to remove Bill Clinton from office over the Lewinsky scandal, backing both articles of impeachment.

Even more painfully, in 1998, McCain appeared before a bunch of Republican fat-cats, where he told a nasty, tasteless joke about Chelsea Clinton, describing her as “ugly.”

But even after all of this, the McCain campaign now wants us to believe Clinton has “grown on” them, and that “there is a genuine affection for her here at McCain HQ.”

It’s as if the McCain campaign believes we’re all blithering idiots with no memory at all.

it seems she fell victim to a vast left-wing conspiracy – McCain’s blog

Maybe I’m naive, but this strikes me as a truly odd choice of words, if the intent is to lure Clinton supporters. The implication is clearly that she was an off-the-edge conspiracy theorist then, and she still is. And who could possibly be more sensitive to that interpretation than her most rabid supporters.

But that leaves me wondering if McCain’s advisors are truly that incompetent, or whether there was a different audience intended. I might also add that I doubt many people ran right from her speech yesterday to actually evaluate McCain’s positions on his web site or most especially on his blog.

  • It’s as if the McCain campaign believes we’re all blithering idiots with no memory at all.

    Well, that is the definition of the kind of person who votes for a Republican.

  • I did not think there could be anyone as DELUSIONAL as the SHIT STAIN IN CHIEF called Bush. McBush, and his lobbyist crew, have proved me wrong.

  • Obama did not win the nomination fair and square. He clinched a stolen nomination with the hijacked MI delegates, and de facto Obama surrogate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rigged the nomination for Obama.

    So, the corrupt Democratic Party rigged the exit of Sen. Clinton and wants Sen. Clinton’s supporters to surrender to Obama’s cult powers. But this will not happen because her supporters lack a cult mentality.

    With Sen. Clinton’s exit, the White House is now a pipe dream for the corrupt Democratic Party.

    Sen. Clinton’s supporters should campaign for the defeat of Obama and vote for John McCain. I will volunteer and vote for McCain in a swing state and hope to see Sen. Clinton as a presidential candidate in 2012.

    Sen. Clinton should be the Democratic nominee. She was the best qualified and the strongest candidate to win the general election in a landslide victory hands down.

  • Well, now, perhaps, finally, Hillary will respond to McCain in a realistic manner. Perhaps an op-ed in the NYT or something, reminding everyone, especially and more importantly her most ardent feminist supporters of the things McCain has said about her, her daughter and his implicit feelings about women in general (wife=c***)…and highlight Obama’s stand on issues that are important to women. No matter the feelings of disappointment or even of being cheated, somehow, how could any woman vote for McCain?

  • This is exactly why I was so bothered by the fact that she did not address directly, in simple sentences that left no room for doubt or interpretation, the disaster that McCain and another Republican administration represent. She could and should have slammed the door on this notion that McCain presents a reasonable alternative to Obama. Instead, she left it wide open.

  • crat3,

    good job there, you just earned 2 McSame points. Only a $500 donation and 998 more points and you’ll have a choice between a golf sweater or a lawn chair. Choose wisely.

  • crat3 says.. “Sen. Clinton should be the Democratic nominee.”

    She’s not; so get over it.

  • McCain might win over a few diehard Hillary supporters with his new-found admiration of her. But I doubt that many Republicans will be pleased that McCain is saying nice things about the she-devil “bitch.” Politics makes strange bedfellows.

    (NO! I didn’t mean that! The thought is too awful.)

    (Sorry for using the “b” word, everyone, but Republicans think it’s her real first name.)

  • Maybe I am naive. Witness crat3’s reference to “Democratic corruption”. Seriously? He’s suggesting that people should switch to the culture of corruption by calling Dems corrupt?

  • Fine. Awesome. Moar plz.

    Between comparing Bush to Obama and praising the woman ReThugs love to hate, the one’s who don’t flee McCaniac in disgust will become so confused their heads will explode.

    Yeah, I know he’s after the hundreds and millions of feminists who’ve vowed to vote for John “Women just need to get a better education if they want equal pay” McCainiac if Hillary didn’t get the nomination. Please God don’t let him find out they’re about as real as Saddam Hussein’s WMD program.

    Speaking of McThuselah, what’s with the picture from his campaign in the side bar? I know you have no control over what pops up there. That isn’t my problem. My problem is it was taken when he was much younger. Why does the ReThuglican party hate the elderly?

    And why the hell didn’t they p-shop that weird poof of hair sticking up?

    Watching these incompetent jackoffs go up against the Obama Machine is going to be like reading a version of the Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIHM that does not have a happy ending.

  • locanicole (no. 7): exactly right. There will undoubtably be GOP leaners, who wanted to vote for a women who will now come home, and sundry other misguided voters who will also do so, or abstain for reasons beyond my ken; but it seems that this strategy simply provides a perfect role for Hon. Sen. Clinton to step into: defending her future career (and legacy) and helping the Dem ticket as a freebie.

  • It’s as if the McCain campaign believes we’re all blithering idiots with no memory at all.

    Welcome to the world of my parents, blithering idiots with no memory at all (even worse, they were both editors at a major daily and have countless journalism awards lining the walls). They remember the horrible Chelsea joke, but don’t think it reflects poorly on McCain at all because it was 10 years ago (I’m sure they had a different reason for not caring at the time). In fact, they seem to like him better because people attack him over it, as if it were an unfair topic of conversation. In truth, I think liking him comes first and the justifications come afterwards. There is nothing McCain could do to lose their support because there is nothing they couldn’t rationalize away. It’s just strange to listen to.

  • They’re thrashing in the wind clutching at straws. They’ll sink like stones (the gall and bile variety) before the summer’s out.
    First, they cozy up to Obama with their town hall debate ploy to get a free ride on the charisma which they totally lack; now they’re slavering around Clinton supporters hoping to wean a few renegades into their dismal camp.
    Plain shameless and pathetic is their measure, for anyone who hadn’t noticed.

  • …generally centrist foreign policy views (early support for the Iraq war, support for Kyl-Lieberman, unwavering support for Israel, etc.)

    See…therein lies the problem. Those aren’t centrist views. They’re neocon policy.

  • Is John McCain ever going to explain to Hillary as to why he voted “Guilty” to both counts of impeachment against her husband nine years ago?

  • crat3 should be crap3, but no matter into the kill file he goes. Poof.

    It seems like with McCain’s many years he would have built up a repertoire of ideas and strategies, but he hasn’t. He’s sticking with the 3 he learned in the 70’s. I guess instead of 30 years experience he’s had one year of experience 30 times.

  • crat3 speaks of no democratic party I know of and Clinton supporters aren’t so easily persuaded. I think they would recognize a republican troll when they read one. Crat wants stupid people to yell get over it knowing that would probably piss off the real Clinton supporters. In time I’m sure Clinton will expose McCain loudly…she deserves a break from appearing publicly…just like Edwards and Biden and Dodd and Kucinich etc when they ended their campaigns but she’ll soon enough hit back.

    Goldfarb is trying to justify his new salary as the campaign’s new “swift-boater”. Tell the truth Michael with a yes or no…have you ever kissed a sweeter butt than McCain’s? Weekly Standard is a rag any you were one of its prized possessions but I’m not sure if ragging for McCain was a promotion or not. I’m sure we’ll get plenty of outrageous sleazy comments from you for months to come. You are what you are.

  • 21.
    On June 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, Dale said:

    “…It seems like with McCain’s many years he would have built up a repertoire of ideas and strategies, but he hasn’t. He’s sticking with the 3 he learned in the 70’s. I guess instead of 30 years experience he’s had one year of experience 30 times.”

    Excellent…very well said. Perfect fit…thanks. Should be comment of the month.

  • The Rethugs have treated us all like “blithering idiots” because they know it works. And there is no memory on specifics anymore, nor any patience for details and compexity. Keep-it-simple- stupid, the KISS principle, one of the fundamentals of propaganda. The Democrats think people care about policy nuances, or an accurate retelling of even recent history. They don’t. Most people don’t want to get that involved, assuming they have the intellect to figure it all out anyway.

    Thus disappointed Clinton supporters are seen as fair game for poaching by cozing up to her, although any woman who votes for McSame because she can’t vote for Clinton calls into question her intellect. I definitely give women much more credit than McSame’s campaign does. All Clinton has to do is put the McSame propaganda machine in its place by calling him out on women’s issues, and she should. Let’s see if she does.

  • There is a small subset of Hillary supporters who have vowed to vote for McCain. Check out the blog comments on the Clinton website for some examples. These are people who don’t care about policy issues at all and simply want Hillary in the White House at any cost. They figure four years of McCain is tolerable if Hillary can run again in 2012. They couldn’t care less what McCain says or thinks about anything.

    I’m not surprised that McCain is going after these people, but given their comical levels of political naivete, I can’t imagine that there are enough of them to matter. Some of these folks are actually talking about going to Denver in August and storming the convention. It hasn’t occurred to them that they won’t even be allowed into the building.

  • Actually it would not be good for Hilery to run along with Obama as I highly doubt that he will last the entire four years in office

  • Delurking…

    A really annoying part of the Clinton-courting, to me, is that they’re playing Abba on his website.

    If you change your mind,
    I’m the first in line
    Honey I’m still free
    Take a chance on me

    I feel like a creepy old man is trying to pick me up in a bar by acting hep. (You know you can picture the stiff little sidestep that accompanies the song.) And I wasn’t even particularly a Clinton supporter.

  • I can’t wait until McCain wins the election so I can log on to all of the idiotic liberal message boards and offer the following:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    LOL. One day all of you naive liberal fools will come to terms with a few “inconvenient” truth’s:

    – The crap you were fed in college by your ex-hippie professors is exactly that. Crap. Unlearn the propaganda and come back to earth.

    -There is a difference between serious constructive criticism of our country and whining, bitching, moaning and offering no real solution. Most of you remind me of moronic employees at a job that complain about everything but bring nothing of substance to the table

    -War is necessary sometimes. It would be nice if no one wanted to destroy us ( and they would want to destroy us with Jimmy Carter in office as much as with Bush in office so please stop with that BS), but they do. Just like it would be nice if no one stole because stealing is wrong. I don’t plan on leaving my front door unlocked and my keys in my car. We need a STRONG military presence. We live in a hostile universe, we need to be proactive in securing our country and not wait for the next bombing.

    Have fun flaming… I’ll be back after the election to gloat!! Peace dudes.

  • Barack Obama won because he is a far greater politician than Hillary is. So much for her supposed experience! Barack carefully crafts and calculates everything he is about to do or say, this is evident when he speaks. It takes him a while to say things because you can see the wheels in his mind churing and thinking of things to say properly. This is a great quality that every politician should have.

  • It seems race is all Obama”s supporters care about, even stooping low enough to falsely accuse the Clintons of racism! the Clintons, who have stood up for blacks and against racism for so many years! I will NEVER vote for Obama now, he and his foul minded supporters don”t deserve my vote, or the votes and support of any of Hillary’s supporters. Sorry Hillary, unless he chooses you for the other half of this ticket, I cannot support him even if you ask me to, can”t do it.

  • The primary reason Obama won was the help of the Black vote in primary key cities that won delegate votes. The DNC also by ignoring 600,000 voters and deciding to give Obama votes that were never placed on him by legal voters was key. I voted for Hillary simply not because she was a woman but because she was well qualified. In voted for her not because she was white but because she was well qualified. Had Obama been white and not qualified I too would not have voted for him. It is not about color whatsoever. It is about selecting someone who is going to deal with the real issues of our nation-such as the economy, employment, equal pay, health care, affordable education, immigration, foreign policy, threats of terror, and yes the Iraq conflict. It is also about peace. It is about finally settling the question of giving Palestine their rightful land. It is about not allowing people to go hungry in our nation. It is about taking care of our military and their families. And it is about getting rid of the 60 vote required to pass anything in the Senate. It is about stopping lobbysts to dictate policy and
    the funneling of money into their pockets because they helped certain Senators or Representatives with their campaign expenses plus other behind the scenes free bees. It is about our paying over $4 for gasoline a gallon when Corporations are paying $130 for a 55 gallon profit bonanza. It is about changing the tax code to quit favoring people who already made more than their share. Perhaps it is all about overhauling the Senate and House of Representatives and filled with citizens who have no ties to anyone but the people of who they really serve. God Bless America. A concerned American Citizen who is color blind.

  • crat3 needs a vision check, as it was Hillary who wanted therules set aside in order to count votes in Michigan, where she and Kucinich were the only ones on the ballot and she still could not get 60%. She basically wanted to punish Obama for following the rules.

    Bleedingheartliberalfool says war is sometimes necessary. true fool! but none of the wars fought by the neocons have been in that category. we were told Iraq was a war we would fight and then leave, but then we discovered that Bush had built 12 permanent airbases in the first year of our occupation of that country. we didn’t “liberate” it, we are colonizing it. neocons like BHLFool need to grow up and learn that its wrong to steal the property of others.

  • Hillary All the Way, i am sure the McCain people will thank you for remaining silent in the face of their promise of continued war, rollback of women’s rights, and continued destruction of the constitution. don’t blame Obama if McCain gets elected and appoints 3 more anti-abortion, anti-human rights, pro-big business justices to the SCOTUS…. look in the mirror and blame your self.

  • Anthony,
    The way a president deals with those issues is with in conjunction with congress and managing the executive branch. Since neither of the candidates have managerial or executive experience, we really cannot say how well prepared they are on that front. If you want to judge the candidates in how they ran their campaigns, Obama comes out looking the best. Besides Obama has the support of Kennedy and other democratic Obama will be effective in passing legislative. The difference between him and Jimmy Carter is that Obama knows enough about Washington that he can get things done.

    Regarding you bringing up color blindness. You are a hoot. No one brought up

  • 28. “Most of you remind me of moronic employees at a job that complain about everything but bring nothing of substance to the table”, he taunted in a post which ironically contained no actual substance beyond “my team good, your team evil, nah na nah na nah nah”.

  • Shalimar, I read this blog entry over at TPM and your post @16 made me think of it. This guy did a book review and in his blog he said:

    Renowned social psychologists Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson take a compelling look into how the brain is wired for self-justification. When we make mistakes, be must calm the cognitive dissonance that jars our feelings of self-worth. And so we create fictions that absolve us of responsibility, restoring our belief that we are smart, moral, and right—a belief that often keeps us on a course that is dumb, immoral, and wrong.

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/book-recomendations.php

    I think this applies to the things we believe and support, too, as well as the frames we want to believe in.

    /off pop psych comment

  • Doubtful @ 18, thank you! Kyl-Leiberman is neoconism at its best. There is nothing centrist about it. I almost fell over when I read that little blub. It’s centrist in the way that PNAC is all American.

    Dale @ 21, if you de-script the guy/gal, you lose such a prime opportunity to play Whack-A-Troll (R) and that can be so much fun at times.

    Steve @25, I still think that the majority of people on the different sites espousing being Clinton supporters for McCain are trolls to incite, agent provocateurs, if you will. I refuse to believe that there are that many stupid women out there who will vote against their own best interests. Yes, many people do, which was proved when Bush got as many votes as he did in 2004. But I have faith in the women of this country to not be fooled like that.

    #28. Fuck off. Buh bye. There is a recruitment center near you. Why are you here? You should be there supporting your necessary war. He of little substance and full of whine and complain.

  • I love Hillary. I voted for her in the primary. My next vote goes to Obama. I would never in a million years vote for McBush.

    McBush wants us to stay in Iraq for a century – or is it until 2013? He made both statements.

    McBush, in his ignorance, thought that Iran was training “Al Qaeda in Iraq.” However, Iran is Shi’ite, and Al Qaeda is Sunni. Luckily, a whisper in his ear made him issue a correction.

    McBush refused to support the 21st Century G.I. Bill this year, opposed the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008, and voted against requiring minimum periods between deployments last year.

    McBush wants to “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.” Death and destruction aren’t cute or funny.

    McBush used to believe that waterboarding is torture. Then he decided that it isn’t, and, this year, he voted against a bill that would have prevented the CIA from waterboarding prisoners.

    McBush opposes a ban on assault rifles.

    McBush used to support deficit reduction and oppose tax cuts. Now he supports tax cuts, especially for oil companies.

    McBush opposed the farm bill that would help farmers comply with state and federal environmental laws, boost federal research on the fruits and vegetables the region relies on, open new markets for the region’s products, and increase the amount of fruits and vegetables in school lunches.

    McBush opposed expanding the children’s health insurance program.

    McBush opposes publicly-funded health care, universal health care, and health coverage mandates. Somehow, he believes that competition between health insurance companies will bring prices down.

    McBush supports teaching “intelligent design” in public school classrooms. Apparently, he isn’t any fonder of science than George W. is.

    McBush took a long, long time to “unaccept” the endorsements of John Hagee and Rod Parsley.

    McBush chairs the Senate committee that oversees the telecommunications industry. Interestingly, his lead strategist, Charlie Black, lobbies on behalf of telecommunications companies. McBush is still in the pocket of lobbyists.

    McBush is anti-choice. He said last year that he wants Roe v. Wade overturned. As president (Lord, spare us), he will most likely be in a position to appoint one, two, or more Supreme Court justices who could overturn Roe v. Wade.

    McBush opposes funding for family planning programs. He voted against requiring insurance coverage of birth control. He didn’t support legislation that would help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and the need for abortion.

    McBush opposes a federal minimum wage.

    Don’t vote for McBush!

  • Apparent retardation notwithstanding, all of us are, or should be, aware of the fact that crat3’s dopey missive is exactly the agenda for this coming election, and you’ll see it happening on a grander scale by far better communicators (which is not to say they’re that good, it’s to say crat3’s that bad).

    The GOP knows McCain will never win based on qualities. He has none. The GOP knows McCain won’t win based on experience, as all his experience is wrong. The GOP knows that McCain can’t distance himself from Bush, as he’s adopted all of his talking points and is pushing his agenda. And the GOP can’t claim that the McCain isn’t running stagnant when they try to co-opt his logo, his catch phrases, even his design.

    What the GOP CAN do is try to confuse people as to who Obama really is. THrow so much Obama shit at the wall, some of it is bound to stick. They don’t even have to get you to vote FOR McCain; for them, it’s just enough of a win for you to not vote at all, or vote for a thirs party, or write in your own name, etc.

    Is Obama a Muslim? Was there a Pelost-led conspiracy to steal the nomination away from Clinton? How controversial are Obama’s friends? How controversial are his mentors? Will he talk to our enemies? IS he talking to our enemies? What of this tape where Michelle blasts “Whitey?” I heard he’s going to leave Israel hanging. I heard he’s in trial lawyers’ pockets. I heard he had a gay affair. I heard Farrakhan’s on his speed dial. And so on and so on.

    They don’t expect you to believe all of it. They don’t even NEED you to believe ANY of it. All they have to do is plant a small seed of doubt. Just enough to make you wonder: Is ANY of it true? Can I take that chance with my vote? Is McCain the devil I know, and is that better than the devil I don’t? I…I just can’t risk it. Let someone else make the choice, I’m out. If it turns out Obama’s a (Whatever) I won’t have that on my conscience.

    And then, as always, the GOP wins.

    Just be aware, and tell others: THIS is how the Republicans work, because it always works for them. They’ve got NOTHING ELSE. It only works if you let it, so don’t let it.

  • Slappy, that was a FANTABULOUS comment. Something we all need to keep in mind. And reason why we all have to be kind surrogates for Obama. I think I have posted this before but this was a fantastic blog entry at TPM on doing just that (and while I keep this in mind, I do not do so well when dealing with Mary. No one is perfect, especially me. That said, in person, I keep this firmly in mind.)

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/american-dialects.php

    Larry, your comment is going in my Save file for future reference.

    Bravo to both of you!

  • “It’s as if the McCain campaign believes we’re all blithering idiots with no memory at all.”

    Or it means that McCain’s first attempt at using the Jedi mind trick, or that neuralizer someone sold him turned out to be a pen flashlight.

    “We need a STRONG military presence. We live in a hostile universe, we need to be proactive in securing our country and not wait for the next bombing.”

    We also need more warm bodies. Time to sign up, high speed.

    Take it from me, Ft. Benning is beautiful this time of year, what with the heat, humidity, and fire ants.

  • Gee, if Hillary is so good, then everyone should follow her recommnedation

    and vote for Barack, right? :0)

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