And then they came for your search results

In the battle of two heavyweights, it’s the Bush administration vs. Google. What’s at stake? The government’s ability to peek at search results. So far, Google’s winning.

The Justice Department has asked a federal judge to compel Google, the Internet search giant, to turn over records on millions of its users’ search queries as part of the government’s effort to uphold an online pornography law.

Google has been refusing the request since a subpoena was first issued last August, even as three of its competitors agreed to provide information, according to court documents made public this week. Google asserts that the request is unnecessary, overly broad, would be onerous to comply with, would jeopardize its trade secrets and could expose identifying information about its users.

It’s come to this. Government-monitored phone calls, emails, snail mail, library records, and medical records … that’s all routine. But Google?

To be fair, I realize that the government’s request is for a week of search queries and a random list of a million web addresses in its index, not the personal searches of specific individuals.

Nevertheless, to its enormous credit, Google is resisting on principle and has drawn a line on privacy rights.

While its court filings against the Justice Department subpoena have emphasized the burden of compliance and threat to its trade secrets, Google also pointed to a chilling effect on its customers.

“Google’s acceding to the request would suggest that it is willing to reveal information about those who use its services,” it said in an October letter to the Justice Department. “This is not a perception Google can accept. And one can envision scenarios where queries alone could reveal identifying information about a specific Google user, which is another outcome that Google cannot accept.”

And there’s also the slippery slope. “This is the government’s nose under the search engine’s tent. Once we cross this line it will be very difficult to turn back,” said Marc Rotenberg of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a District-based nonprofit group that advocates privacy protections. “If companies like Google respond to this kind of subpoena . . . I don’t see why the next subpoena might not say, ‘Give us what we asked for the last time — plus a little more.'”

Google has vowed to resist the subpoena “vigorously.” Stay tuned.

WTF! I mean come onwhy does the government need new powers when they can’t even enforce the ones they got now. If I can remember most of the 9/11 hi-jackers could have been found not by looking to see what they googled but just if you could have checked their ID’s against if the were supposed to even be in the US. This has got to be stopped, I am all for getting creeps online, but as the legend goes “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

  • I’m kind of curious who are the three skunks who gave into the Government on this. Yahoo, I expect. Can’t imagine them surrendering their mainland Chinese customers to the Beiking Communists and not giving up Americans to the Bush DOJ.

    I think I’ll restrict all my searches to Google from now on.

  • Why doesn’t the govenment just do their own searches and go from there? They can even use google like the rest of us…

    Google is absolutely in the right here. Shame on the other search engines for rolling over.

  • CB,
    I wasn’t clear on one issue–is the subpoena about those who happened to access porn sites or ANYONE who did a Google search during those months. If the former, then we have “merely” an unacceptable fishing expedition by the government that is going to tie up resources forever to little purpose. If the latter, then the Feds have clearly gone off the rails. They could literally use those records for intel purposes on political opponents and the growing number of US dissidents.

    This is bad either way, and it’s really depressing that search engines (which, thankfully, I do not use) have complied with this.

  • Hey, there’s a bright side to all this… we’ve now got a new way to send input to our bubble insulated president…

    whisper in his ear in a yahoo search

    Yahoo Search:
    Geroge Bush is a thieving low-life slime-ball A-hole.

  • Here’s why we should stand up for (and use) Google. Try the following:

    Got to Google.

    Type the word “failure” (without quotes) into the search box.

    Press the button “I’m Feeling Lucky.”

    See what you get….

  • Mr. Furious,

    My thoughts exactly. They appear to be using the War on Drugs model to fight the war on porn. Don’t go after the dealers, lock us as many users as possible. As you said I can Google whatever my particular taste may be (personally it is Norwegian girls in ice fishing gear but that is a MN thing I think) and get results. Why can’t Alberto Gonzalez do the same thing?

    This is way too Big Brother for me. Not that I like the other items CB listed in his post.

    If Google was not $400 a share I would invest in them to show my support. I will also definately continue to use their services not only because they are the best but becuase at least they have a sense of right and wrong and responsibility.

  • MNProgressive–
    Someone on another forum suggested “follow the money.”

    An issue like this could cause the stock to plunge, meaning that someone selling short would make a killing. And then repeat the killing by buying the stock at rock-bottom prices and watching it go back up when the affair blows over.

    Given the presence of day-traders in Congressional offices and widescale corruption, this idea might not be too tinfoil!

  • BushCo in general, and Gonzalez in particular, clearly are in love with data mining as a means to expand presidential power.

    Remember JetBlue surrendering its passenger manifests? And the IRS targeting interest groups? And then the NSA. These are all tips of the same iceberg. We can only imagine what else they’ve gotten into.

  • Mr. Flibble,

    These guys have raised the tinfoil hat bar so high I don’t even know if I can see it anymore. However, a collapse in Google stock would be a serious blow to the market and the economy. Even if you sold prior to the drop the impact on the market would still kill any other socks or funds you held.

    Earlier this week the Tokyo market plunges two days in a row due to the Japaneese version of Google being investigated for accounting irregularities and securities fraud. They even had to close the market early on Wednesday to avoid crashing their computers due to the volume of the sell-off.

    Now placing my tinfoil hat on I could see the kabal of new world order yahoos (PNC types) collapsing the economy as part of a plan to seize control and create a dictatorship etc. etc. but I think that is pretty far out. Of course look at what FDR was able to do in the name of recovering from the great depression. They HATE FDR and they could undo everything he ddid if they could start from scratch like he did. I still doubt it. Might make a good book though.

  • When in doubt about what to invest in, go with a senator. From somewhere (sorry, no link) I heard that fund managers are stars if they outperform the indexes by 2-3%, but senators routinely outperform by 12 or more percent!

  • If the government is already reading every communication (Audio, email, www) made by every person using the world’s communication network, why do they need this information from GOOGLE?

    Answer – They don’t, they already have it. This move by the administration is a classic headfake.

  • And there’s also the slippery slope. “This is the government’s nose under the search engine’s tent.

    There is no greater danger to our freedom than a camel on a slippery slope.

  • No wonder Microsoft and Yahoo caved. They also help the Chinese government to keep their people in the dark and put dissenters in prison under very unpleasant conditions.

    Maybe Google’s example will help the others grow a spine and do the right thing for a change. That would be nice.

  • As I pointed out in the daily rant over at That’s Another Fine Mess, Yahoo acceded to the government subpeona, as did (apparently) MSN, both of whom “defended freedom” to the last barricade recently by rolling over for the Chinese government and supplying the names and addresses of the individuals in China who use their anonymous e-mail accounts to post on the internet – it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out these people are likely all now in some Maoist gulag as a result of the bravery and integrity and committment to principles of freedom espoused by MicroSquish and Yahoo.

    I’m not the only blogger who has made this suggestion, and I’ll make it here again. As consumers, let’s reward our friends and punish the enemy. I shop at Costco, not Walmart, since Costco can pay their employees a living wage and still deliver low prices. So let Yahoo and MSN become the portals of choice for the Republican morons who “have nothing to hide” (except anyone working in the hotel industry will tell you that the more Republican the membership of whatever group is staying at the hotel, the greater the use of the porn service on the movies-for-rent – but only for 5-6 minutes each, demonstrating the “staying power” of Republicans).

    Google on, progressives! Let Yahoo and MSN drop dead.

  • Google is now down nearly 22 dollars (about 5 percent). Can I put two feathers in my tin-foil hat?

  • Google may be rebuffing the USG at the moment, but there are still unresolved privacy issues:

    […]

    More generally, the biggest single area of worry about Google involves
    privacy. This has been a long-running subject of concern on the net,
    but thanks to an op-ed piece in the New York Times in November it has
    begun to attract some wider attention. The paper pointed out that the
    prosecution in a recent North Carolina strangulation case drew into
    evidence the fact that the defendant had made Google searches on the
    words ‘neck’ and ‘snap’. This brought to wider notice the fact that
    Google logs all the searches made on it, and stores this information
    indefinitely; and Google installs a cookie on the computer of everyone
    who uses it, which helps log that user’s searches, and which isn’t due
    to expire until 2038. Because every computer has a unique IP address,
    every visit to every website can be traced back to the computer making
    it – a fact well known in geek circles but remarkably under-publicised
    outside them. (Last April a Chinese journalist called Shi Tao was
    given ten years in jail for ‘leaking state secrets’ after Yahoo! in
    Hong Kong handed over information linking his IP address and his email
    to the Chinese authorities.) Users of Google’s Gmail service have
    already given the company their identity, a full record of all their
    searches, and copies of all their emails, stored indefinitely.
    According to the tech guru Robert Cringely, the future of Google lies
    in combining the company’s knowledge of who you are with its Google
    Video service to produce microscopically targeted TV ads. ‘Google
    imagines a world where only single people see match.com ads, and
    people who can’t drive see ads from taxi companies where others see
    Toyota campaigns. Where fraternities see ads for strip clubs, beer,
    Cancun weekends and LSAT prep courses, and only seniors (and their
    adult children) see ads for Alzheimer’s drugs.’ In case that doesn’t
    seem sufficiently dystopian, one should bear in mind that the
    information stored at Google is vulnerable to legal subpoena. It’s not
    hard to imagine this information being sought by governments,
    litigants or divorcing spouses, and the list does not stop there.
    Google badly needs to develop tools which ensure privacy.

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n02/lanc01_.html

  • Comments are closed.