At this point, we’re supposed to have 5,000 troops in Iraq

Last September, Brig. Gen. Mark Scheid explained that Secretary Donald Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a postwar Iraq in early 2003, at one point going so far as to threaten to “fire the next person” to mention the need for a postwar plan.

“The secretary of defense continued to push on us … that everything we write in our plan has to be the idea that we are going to go in, we’re going to take out the regime, and then we’re going to leave,” Scheid said. “We won’t stay.”

Rumsfeld’s bizarre and tragically mistaken optimism was, alas, not an isolated incident.

When Gen. Tommy R. Franks and his top officers gathered in August 2002 to review an invasion plan for Iraq, it reflected a decidedly upbeat vision of what the country would look like four years after Saddam Hussein was ousted from power.

A broadly representative Iraqi government would be in place. The Iraqi Army would be working to keep the peace. And the United States would have as few as 5,000 troops in the country.

Military slides obtained by the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act outline the command’s PowerPoint projection of the stable, pro-American and democratic Iraq that was to be.

Granted, this isn’t entirely new. The fact that the administration had ridiculous expectations before the invasion has been documented so thoroughly, it’s no longer open to question. But as the NYT noted, the newly declassified slides “provide a firsthand look at how far the violent reality of Iraq today has deviated from assumptions that once laid the basis for an exercise in pre-emptive war.”

Going through the slides, it’s breathtaking.

* The State Department was expected to rebuild Iraq’s political institutions — before shock and awe even started.

* “Co-opted” Iraqi Army units would stay in their garrisons and later help secure the country — because Americans would ask them to.

* The “stabilization” phase of the conflict would last two to three months.

* We would only need 5,000 troops in Iraq by December 2006.

I thought hilzoy summarized the problem nicely.

There are, in these slides, various contingency plans. What will we do if we don’t get to fly over various countries? How will we respond to a Predator being shot down, to the Iraqis using WMD against us, to a major attack on the Kurds? It’s a pity we didn’t plan for other contingencies, like an insurgency or a civil war.

Of all the bizarre and irrational things about the administration’s prosecution of the war, the nearly total lack of planning for the occupation is the strangest of all. If I try very hard, I can wrap my mind around the idea that people who were supposed to know what they were doing thought invading Iraq was a good idea. But there is no point of view from which the failure to plan for the occupation makes any sense at all.

Exactly. A fair number of serious people believed the invasion was a good idea. A significant number of them believed toppling Saddam’s regime would be fairly easy. But there was an underlying assumption that nearly all of these people made: that Bush would have some idea about how to prepare for what would happen next.

The fact that the administration never bothered is borderline criminal. History will not be kind.

I don’t know if anyone has seen “Bottle Rocket,” but this reminds me (in a black comedy sense) of Owen Wilson’s “50-year plan” sketched out in his notebook

  • This is what happens when your war plan is formulated by AEI non military neo-cons like Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Fred Kagan and Bill Kristol…..

    They were wildly inaccurate in their assessments then as they are now (surge) and young americans are going to AGAIN have to pay with their lives to save GWB’s leagacy…….dispicable

  • Granted, this entirely new.

    Should there be an “is not” after “this? [/picky editing]

    …to the Iraqis using WMD against us…

    Uh yeah. The WMD the plotters knew they didn’t have.

    I can hear the turbines on the rightwingy spin machines from here. “Waaaah! We couldn’t know that it would be a mess!” “Boo hoo! We had no idea the Iraqis would be such ingrates!” and of course “If Bill Clinton hadn’t done X while he was in office, things would’ve gone as planned!”

    Come on 2009.

    tAiO

    p.s. I forgot. Criticizing the war = Hating the troops.

  • Well, Rumsfeld tried to play the “go-to-war-with-the-Army-you’ve-got” gambit—but it seems that he—and the administration—envisioned a “Wile E. Coyote” scenario. You go over the cliff, fall thousands and thousands of feet, make a puff of dust when you go splat, and then just get up and go at it again. Come to think of it, they “gamed out” the invasion that same way—didn’t they?

    * The State Department was expected to rebuild Iraq’s political institutions — before shock and awe even started.

    And the Iraqi government was just going to let this happen—right?

    * “Co-opted” Iraqi Army units would stay in their garrisons and later help secure the country — because Americans would ask them to.

    They got this one “part-right.” The Iraqi military didn’t come out and fight. They melted into the crowd, and pop out several times a day to blow things up. They’ve inflicted much more damage via a guerrilla-esque insurgency than they ever could as a conventional force—and they will continue to do so.

    * The “stabilization” phase of the conflict would last two to three months.

    Ummm…is it “stabilized” yet?

    * We would only need 5,000 troops in Iraq by December 2006.

    They couldn’t fix this thing with 500,000 troops now—which we don’t have, by the way. Afghanistan is coming apart at the seams, Iraq is a military travesty—and the drum-beaters are still screaming for a “third front” against Iran. If this keeps up, the administration and its cronies are going to need at least 5,000 troops in Washington—just to keep the angry mobs at bay….

  • Also in neocon world, construction of the Donald Rumseld International Airport would be completed by now, and the George W. Bush Expressway between Baghdad and Najaf would be almost ready for traffic.

  • “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.” — Sun-Tzu

  • 2/15/07
    It’s the Augean Stable syndrome:

    Criminal Negligence, Criminal Deception, Criminal Policies, Criminal Activities, Simple Malfeasance and World Class Incompetence. Not one week has gone by in the past 73 months without a documentable, and actionable, case of at least one of the above by Bush, Cheney or a Cabinet member.

    Where, exactly, do the Democrats start? The crimes of LBJ and Nixon were few enough that we could remember pretty much all of them and maintain a focus. The criminal, malfeasant and incompetent acts of the Bush Administration for any one of the past 60 months outstrip all of the administration’s devious actions for the years 1965 through 1973 combined. Further, Johnson did a world of good domestically and Nixon internationally while they were screwing up badly enough to end their political careers. I honestly cannot think of a single action by the Bush team that has benefited the ‘people’ more than the rich or the cronies.

  • It should not escape notice that this reliance on the State Dept to have magical time-distorting abilities was particularly nonsensical since Cheney and Rumsfeld had completely marginalized Powell, sought/allowed little or no input from State, and showed no interest in working with State on any aspects of planning, whether pre- or post-.

    Sort of like choosing to go into a fight with one arm tied behind your back. Alas, the macho-wannabe chicken-hawks thought it’d make them even cooler to win a war that way. Man I wish Wolfie, Feith, et al. could have gotten just one date in high school. Think of how different history might have been.

  • from Robert Burns’ 1785 poem “To A Mouse, On Turning Her Up In Her Nest With The Plough”

    But, Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
    In proving foresight may be vain;
    The best-laid schemes o’ mice an ‘men
    Gang aft agley,
    An’lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
    For promis’d joy!

  • [..] the nearly total lack of planning for the occupation is the strangest of all. — hilzoy, as quoted by CB

    Not strange at all. Throughout the “gathering clouds” period (late ’02) and even after the invasion, the maladministration refused to call the spade anything other than a digging implement. Words such as “invasion” and “occupation” were fought with the same ferocity they kept later for “civil war”.

    First, it wasn’t gonna happen, then it wasn’t happening; we weren’t invading and occupying, we were liberating them. So we planned for liberation — give the soldiers bags to collect the the candy they were going to be showered with…

  • I really don’t understand why everyone here is so STUPID.

    Mr. Chalabi was going to be elected President in Iraq and the Iraqi National Congress was going to come in and seemlessly take over. Obviously, the US would have to help in a few minor matters but the Iraqi exiles would do all the heavy lifting.

    Of course, I suppose we might also need a little help from ‘curveball’ or ‘screwball’ or ‘fubar’ or ‘snafu’ or whatever the code names we had for some of our assets inside Iraq.

    How can you possibly blame Bush and Rumsfeld just because Chalabi was a crook? So what if he was convicted of serious felonies in Jordan.

    Who are you going to believe? Bush or your own eyes?

  • Hey, I looked and looked but couldn’t find the post-war planning slide on how every Iraqi woudl get their own pony. Damned librul media must have edited it out….

  • The State Department was expected to rebuild Iraq’s political institutions — before shock and awe even started.

    I would dearly love to have it explained to me how that was supposed to be pulled off.

  • “…and young americans are going to AGAIN have to pay with their lives to save GWB’s legacy…….despicable” – lib4

    His legacy is screwed for all time. The name of Bush shall live in infamy for this stupidity and the soldiers will keep dying regardless until we get the hell out.

  • * “Co-opted” Iraqi Army units would stay in their garrisons and later help secure the country — because Americans would ask them to.

    They got this one “part-right.” The Iraqi military didn’t come out and fight. They melted into the crowd, and pop out several times a day to blow things up. They’ve inflicted much more damage via a guerrilla-esque insurgency than they ever could as a conventional force—and they will continue to do so. Steve #4

    I generally agree here, but how much blame does Bremmer carry on this? After all wasn’t it Bremmer who disbanded the Iraqi army, thus throwing trained soldiers out on the street with no job? I mean, it probably wasn’t his decision entirely, but shouldn’t he have to shoulder some of the responsibility?

    If they hadn’t disbanded the Iraqi army would they have all melted into the crowd? I would guess that there would be a certain number of the soldiers who needed a job and money and would have stayed in. And then, maybe the insurgency wouldn’t have been as widespread as it is today.

    Just a thought….

  • Thank You Neil Wilson (#11)

    We forget, but that’s EXACTLY what the Bushies were thinking: Chalibi and the Iraqi National Congress were going to take over. It’s why Chalibi was sitting with Laura at the State of the Union.

    That Cheney subsequently told Chalibi that we had broken Iran’s codes and Chalibi turned out to be an Iranian spy is much more noteworthy, malfeasant and criminal than the Plame outing. It’s as I said before, the list of actionable offenses is so great that even people who are keeping informed lose track.

  • There was a plan, it’s called Halliburton and defense contractors get loaded plan.

    This whole thing has lined way too many pockets to be a mistake.
    I would love to see the net worth of about 50 high ranking politicians pre war vs post war. I bet old Dick is worth 5 times what he was back in 2000.

    Escalation ?? More like going out of business sale, you know the ones they have every 6 months, just another ploy to take your hard earned dollars.

  • Qunitus Varelus, 14AD: “You say there’s some of those primitive tribesmen in that forest there? Well, we’ll just walk right in an knock them off, what do you say?” (Just before entering the Teutoberg Forest, where he and his two legions were wiped out)

    Imperial hubris has been around for a long time. No wonder our stormtroopers turned out as they did.

  • Qunitus Varelus, 14AD: “You say there’s some of those primitive tribesmen in that forest there? Well, we’ll just walk right in an knock them off, what do you say?” (Just before entering the Teutoberg Forest, where he and his two legions were wiped out)

    Uhh, that would be Quintus Varus, who lost 3 legions when the supposedly pacified German subject-allies revolted as he was marching through the province suppressing a tax revolt? The parallel is .. interesting

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