Autism, vaccines, and three candidates in need of a briefing

April 22, 2008

It’s pretty unusual for John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama to agree on a controversial subject. It’s even more unusual for them to agree and to contradict the available evidence, but apparently that’s the case today on the subject of vaccines and autism.

I mentioned this briefly earlier, but since I did a post about it when McCain was wrong last month, I suppose it’s only fair that I criticize all three of the candidates.

Here’s McCain on the subject several weeks ago:

At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., declared that “there’s strong evidence” that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. — a position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment. […]

McCain said, per ABC News’ Bret Hovell, that “It’s indisputable that (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what’s causing it. And we go back and forth and there’s strong evidence that indicates that it’s got to do with a preservative in vaccines.” McCain said there’s “divided scientific opinion” on the matter, with “many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying that’s not the cause of it.”

Here’s Obama on the subject yesterday:

“We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it.”

And here’s Clinton, responding to a recent candidate questionnaire:

“I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines…. We don’t know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism — but we should find out.”

The science seems to suggest that all three are wrong.

The WaPo’s Michael Dobbs reported today:

[T]he overwhelming weight of scientific opinion is that there is no proven link between autism and the vaccines which include a mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal. A senior official at the Centers for Disease Control, Dr Edwin Trevathan, told reporters in March that the Poling case did not demonstrate any link between vaccines and autism.

At least five major studies have found no link between autism and thimerosal. A study released by the California Department of Public Health in January found that the autism rate in children rose continued to rise [sic] even after vaccine manufacturers stopped using thimerosal in childhood vaccines after 2001.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, “there’s no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site.” Similar conclusions have been reached by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Food and Drug Administration.

Summaries of the scientific studies are available from the National Institutes of Health and the Institute of Medicine. Both Obama and Clinton have pledged to increase funding for autism research and possible links with vacines.

According to Dr. Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, the connection between vaccines and autism is nothing more than a sad coincidence.

My hope is that all three candidates are just ill-informed on the subject. This isn’t a question they’ve studied in any detail, they’ve heard rumors and/or snippets of reports, and they’ve been led to believe scientists are far more divided on this than they really are.

Hopefully, when confronted with having to make an actual policy decision on this, all three would get a helpful, thorough briefing, and be persuaded by the evidence. In the meantime, though, it’s not helpful, from a public health perspective, to have all three major presidential candidates raising doubts about the benefits of childhood vaccinations.

April 22, 2008 at 1:44 pm

Autism rates have increased dramatically and we don’t know why. The best guesses are about something environmental or ingested.

Thus multiple ideas abound as to the cause even though proof remains to be found. Here is another idea I have encountered.

Epidemiologically speaking the true rates of lyme disease have gone up comensurately with autism ..would be interesting to see the incidence map overlay. Borrelia burgdorferi can do some really weird stuff to people neurologically speaking.

Well, as the parent of a teen with Asperger’s Syndrome, I am always amused at the opinions of the scientists who have found no link between vaccinations and autism. There are many documented cases of parents raising infants and toddlers who, at the time of their vaccinations, appeared to be on a normal developmental path–only to see drastic changes after the administration of these vaccines. To dismiss the notion of a link between the two on the basis of the FDA’s opinion–’cause they certainly are a reliable source, having okey-doked the vaccines in the first place, is specious. I can only state,having spoken with many, many parents in the autism community, that there are doctors who disagree with findings of the FDA/CDC/AAP, and studies that do indicate a link. Dismissing those who are willing ot look further into this issue as “misinformed” or “in need of a briefing” is a casual dismissal of the lives and families who have been profoundly affected by this issue.

The best guesses that I’ve seen are that more people are diagnosed with autism because more people know what autism is now than they did before. With all the attention autism has been getting this year, expect an even bigger spike next year.

Given the unknowns surrounding how many people actually believe the autism-bunk science, but the known that they are voiciferous and rabid, it’s reasonable for the candidates to avoid poking that particular wasps nest.

SouthDakotaDem,

Please point to the “multiple studies”–especially any performed in the past decade–the support the mythical thimersol/autism link. I’ll be impressed if you can find any.

While the argument that the medications have nothing to do with increased incidence may be inconclusive, I’d be more concerned as to whether (1) we should be putting mercury in anything (it’s cumulative), and (2) whether there might be a “cocktail trigger” for autism (a combination of otherwise-benign products that, when mixed, cause autism). There might even be something that, when combined with Thimerosal, causes autism manifestation—and the studies are skewed because some study participants partake of those benign elements, while others do not.

What America needs right now—and the autism/thimerosal issue only lends further credence to this—is an FDA than can run deductive/inductive studies simultaneously

Dearest Media Browski,
Do you have an autistic child? In the March 10th, 2006 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, a study was published showing a 35% decline in diagnosed cases of autism and neuroliogical disorders in children since mercury was removed from these vaccines. Wow…you impress easily.

Media Browski (5): I’m not weighing in on the subject, but here’s a list of them.

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/vaccine/thimerosalreferences.htm

I agree with SouthDakotaDem. Studies come out all the time that contradict the last study on any given subject. And I don’t trust the FDA, they are in the tank for the drug companies that make these vaccines. Steve is also right to say we shouldn’t put mercury in anything, unless it’s W’s coffee.

Frankly, it’s the sort of issue that shouldn’t be politicized in the first place. That said, it does seem that all the remaining candidates are doing nothing more than expressing concern and wanting further research. It’s hard to fault them for that, given as Media Browski has noted the wasp’s nest of believers in some sort of autism link to vaccines.

Thanks mostly to our present regime, the integrity of science as a research mechanism to establish how nature works has been so politicized and compromised in the service of ideology that whatever credibility it once had has largely evaporated. The country, and its presidential candidates, is effectively illiterate when it comes to science, and unable any longer to think critically. All the corporate sponsored predetermined outcome “research” has confused everyone with claims and counter claims that the ordinary person cannot sort out even if he/she still has some thinking skills left. Without disclosure of who sponsors “research”, and with formally prestigious scientific publications not maintaining high enough standards, science can no longer claim the high ground of being either objective or immune from monetary and political influences.

Thus global warming (actually climate change) is still a controversial topic in the braindead MSM, creationism is still touted as a ‘science’, and autism is believed even by very intelligent people to be caused by vaccinations. In the case of autisim the underlying principle is that coincidence is not causation. Increased fossil fuel use, and higher atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases are coincident with climate change, and are largely responsible for climate change. Other factors are also likely involved. As a result various vested interests (mostly the coal industry) are desperately confusing the issue by providing bogus evidence and conflicting research results to create doubt in the scientifically illiterate public mind. The cigarette manufacturers have for decades elevated creating doubt to a PR science, and the fossil fuel interests have just read and followed their playbook.

There no doubt is an explanation for the increased incidence of autism in children, and it seems to have nothing to do with vaccine preservation. That such claims have achieved resonance in the public sphere is a measure of how far we have fallen in our intellectual capacities, and how much our willingness to embrace superstition, anecdotal evidence, and the claims of wingnuts with no scientific skills other than to frame an hypothesis, has increased.

Gee, Rich…sorry that those of us with an actual seat at the table haven’t the “intellectual capacities” to recognize the your infallibility. Christ, if we’d only known, we’d have come to you for guidance and answers. Read some of the studies that do show a link and then visit with some parents of autistic children. Wingnuts…hmmm…I would think this term might apply to someone who has the inabilitly to examine both sides of an issue–having already discovered the truth via his basement chemistry set and subscription to “Ladies Home Journal”.

Everyone knows that the real cause of autism is cold mothers. In fact that’s the cause of every ill in society.

If there comes to be any evidence that autism is NOT related to vaccines then Obama will probably realize it, but don’t count on those other two to be enlightened. As is I find all their reponses practical and open-minded.

There are many documented cases of parents raising infants and toddlers who, at the time of their vaccinations, appeared to be on a normal developmental path–only to see drastic changes after the administration of these vaccines. -SouthDakotaDem

That’s proximity error. We seek order in our lives, so when something chaotic happens, we look at things that occurred around the same time to assign blame. Because symptoms of autism and related disease occur at about the same time as children’s’ vaccinations, we attribute, incorrectly, the cause of the autism to those vaccines.

Science has proven there is no causal relationship, but because they haven’t isolated the true cause, proximity error abounds.

It’s essentially the same thing as saying most automobile accidents happen within 5 miles of the home so it is more dangerous to drive near our homes. That’s false. Most accidents happen around our homes because that’s where we do the most driving, not because it’s more dangerous.

What is dangerous is not vaccinating your children. To begin with, it’s a luxury you’re only afforded because nearly all other children get vaccinated. Not getting your children vaccinated is extremely selfish; you’re essentially saying you believe vaccines are bad, but since everyone else is a bad parent and forces them on their children, you don’t have to worry about your un-vaccinated child getting any of these diseases.

You say you have a child with Asperger’s Syndrome. Typically they are high functioning and years ago would’ve gone undetected. The real ‘increase’ in Autism and related disease hasn’t come from mercury or vaccines or tree fairies; it has come from advanced diagnostics and better screening.

Autism rates haven’t increased; we’ve just gotten better at diagnosing it and we no longer treat it as something to be hidden from public view.

Dear SouthdakatoDem,

No, just linked to NIH. So in other words you know that thimerasol has been removed, but you still think it causes autism, despite all the other studies finding it’s rates increasing.

I see that when emotion is in play, contradiction isn’t a problem.

Here is a recent opinion in USA Today essentially (and far more eloquently) saying some of the same things I just wrote.

This will be Steve’s longest comment thread of the day.
Why? This subject is horribly personal to many. I thank the stars that my son is healthy, but I have 2 neighbors with family in this place (a daughter & a dependant cousin). It’s murky as far as the science, and it touches fear of big Pharma as well as paranoia of vaccines & distain for those paranoid of science.
We are living in an experiment of chemical, genetically modified foods, with a higher survival rate for children, and a combination of lifestyle and stimulation change that the human race has never seen before.
We have never needed honest science more.

We are living in an experiment of chemical, genetically modified foods, with a higher survival rate for children, and a combination of lifestyle and stimulation change that the human race has never seen before.
We have never needed honest science more.

And I wonder if it isn’t all this exposure to EMF radiation ( TV, Cable, Cellular ) that has somehow affected human beings on a core level.
Thimerosol was taken out of contact lens solutions way before vaccinations. Makes you wonder tho. I don’t think it’s just one thing to blame.

Agree with Steve about:

a “cocktail trigger” for autism (a combination of otherwise-benign products that, when mixed, cause autism)

Parents see correlation; scientists see no causation. But there must be a cause, or more likely multiple causes. I’m glad the candidates (and specifically Obama) are pro-research.

Politicians know that always being easier to pander to ignorance

From reading about various forms of autism, I *now* realize that my father had been an Asperger. But this was not something we knew during his lifetime (1916-1999, in Poland); he was simply considered to be a tad weird and antisocial. He was a jerk, but he was functional and even quite brilliant in places.

Like a couple of people have said here; a lot of the increase in autism is the increase in diagnosis. And a lot of that increase in diagnosis can, probably, be laid at the feet of the Big Pharma who’s peddling stuff to “cure” it.

My conspiracy theory du jour is similar to Steve @ 6. Maybe thimerasol, in and of itself, isn’t something that causes autism, but added to something else that’s always assumed to be benign that babies often receive, it creates a cocktail that increases chances for autism. I mean, hell, at this point, for all I know, thimerasol becomes dangerous when mixed with certain foods, and I’d guess not many mothers will remember exactly what they fed their babies around the time the vaccine was given. I’ve no proof of this, but considering that we as adults to take certain meds on an empty stomach, and others on a full stomach, and to stay away from certain foods while on certain meds, isn’t it conceivable that thimerasol reacts to certain chemicals in certain foods, like maybe the iron in spinahc, or the potassium in a banana?

Eh, what do I know?

Geez, I am neither paranoid of science or big pharma. My daughter wasn’t diagnosed with Aspergers until she was 10…she received her vaccine in 1993. I am not looking for someone to blame or to sue. Some of you posters are awfully angry about this issue, a phenomenon not uncommon in the “I Know Better Than You ” left…how dare someone challenge your absolute knowledge of every subject on Wikipedia. Emotion does play a part. Just as, apparently, a far higher (than deserved) opinion of one’s self would seem to…..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/obama-climbs-on-the-vacci_b_97969.html

Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
By David Kirby
The Huffington Post – April 22, 2008

No matter who wins in Pennsylvania today, the next President of the United States will support research into the growing evidence of some link between vaccines and autism.

Senator John McCain has already expressed his belief that vaccines and the mercury containing preservative thimerosal could be implicated in what he has rightly termed an “autism epidemic.”

Senator Hillary Clinton, in response to a questionaire from the autism activist group A-CHAMP, wrote that she was “Committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines.” And when asked if she would support a study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children, she said: “Yes. We don’t know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism – but we should find out.”

And now, yesterday, at a rally in Pennsylvania, Barack Obama had this rather surprising thing to say:

“We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it.”

So there you have it, our next President will share the views of such radical fringe crazies as, well, me, Democrat Robert Kennedy, Jr., Republican Joe Scarborough, former NIH and Red Cross chief Bernadine Healy, and several researchers at Harvard, Johns Hopkins, the Universities of California and Washington and elsewhere.

All of us agree: Current evidence suggests that vaccines could be a contributing factor in some cases of autism, and more research is immediately required.

And yes, now the comments to this piece will come flying in, repeating the tired mantra that “this case is closed,” that vaccines and thimerosal have been “completely vindicated,” and that people like me are just trying to scare the public and drive them away from vaccines, leaving their children vulnerable and sick.

Of course, none of the above is true. So stay tuned.

To begin with, government researchers are currently looking into a number of factors that may trigger autism, including vaccines, their ingredients and the crowded vaccine schedule itself.

Secondly, on April 11th, I attended a top-level meeting in Washington where vaccine safety officials discussed all of the above issues, and more. Included on the Federal Draft Research Agenda for vaccine safety are now questions such as:

Can vaccines cause neurodevelopmental disorders, such as autism?

Can vaccines in children with mitochondrial dysfunction cause significant “neurological deterioration?”

Can the combination live-virus measles, mumps and rubella vaccine cause seizures and long term damage in children?

Can vaccines cause autoimmune disease?

Can thimerosal cause tics or Tourette syndrome?

Can attenuated viruses in vaccines cause asthma in children?

So, no matter who is President next year, top government researchers will be examining the role of vaccines in autism and other childhood illnesses. Thus, the declarations of McCain, Clinton and now Obama, make good scientific sense.

But there is more.

Dozens of autism cases (and perhaps more) currently filed in so-called Vaccine Court will almost certainly be compensated this year. Why? Because a little girl named Hannah Poling with a supposedly rare mitochondrial condition was recently compensated for her own vaccine injuries, including autism and epilepsy.

But I have personally identified at least a dozen (and there are reports of many more) children with cases in the court who meet the exact same medical criteria as Hannah, and whose cases will almost surely be compensated as well — each time with the attendant media fanfare.

My prediction is that, by Election Day, few Americans will still believe there is absolutely no evidence to link vaccines to at least some cases of regressive autism.

So the remarks by all three candidates not only reflect good science, they reflect good politics as well.

When I was a kid, my mother taught at a school for children with developmental disorders. I have vivid memories of two kids. One was a boy who had recovered from smallpox. He was physically scarred from the disease, but was also profoundly disabled. He could do little more than lie on his back and watch the world go by. There was also a girl, roughly the same age, who wore a hockey helmet to prevent self-harm, and while very physically active had little cognitive ability. That was due to a reaction to the smallpox vaccine. About three years later, Smallpox was declared eradicated.

That didn’t inspire me to avoid vaccines – it just put me in mind at an early age of the horrible choices we sometimes make. Most of us choose vaccines over disease, because the odds are so much better. Yet when things go wrong, they can go horribly wrong.

The 2006 article, referenced above by SouthDakotaDem, is not credible on the question of Thimerosal, not only because the dip it recited in autism rates was too small (for its thesis to be correct levels should have dropped to pre-Thimerosal levels, while they claimed only a modest decrease), but also because subsequent data belies the claim that autism rates are falling. Unfortunately, they’re not.

Maybe thimerasol, in and of itself, isn’t something that causes autism, but added to something else that’s always assumed to be benign that babies often receive, it creates a cocktail that increases chances for autism. -slappy magoo

It actually seems to be largely genetic and as treatment improves it results in more people classified as ‘high functioning.’ They tend to live a normal life and, as libra said, may just be thought of as weird or eccentric. Because they’re leading normal lives, they also happen have more children who have a higher genetic disposition for the disorder. Coupled with advanced screening, we have yet another reason for the increase in autistic diagnoses.

I have a couple of questions for those who are convinced vaccines are the cause:

What about children with autism who were never vaccinated?

What would happen to our country if no children were vaccinated?

I’m not sure how parents with autistic children born after 2001 can blame vaccinations for their child’s condition since thimerosal hasn’t been used since then. It’s a rather big flaw in their argument, is it not? The ones before that, perhaps, but it’s a flaw in the arugment of those with younger kids who claim the connection.

I’m also not sure why the heck this is even an issue since it’s moot at this point — thimerosal is no longer included, so why do we continue the argument?

The focus should be twofold:

1. What Steve suggested @ 6 above: look for a mixture of things that can lead to autism, and find ways to prevent it. Also look at other causes, such as plain ol’ genetics, for a better understanding of the forms it can take.

2. Treatment and programs that make it less of a life-shattering condition for all involved.

Everything else is closing the barn doors after the horses have left.

Because a little girl named Hannah Poling with a supposedly rare mitochondrial condition was recently compensated for her own vaccine injuries, including autism and epilepsy.

Except Hannah Poling wasn’t diagnosed with autism. From everything I have read, she was diagnosed with underlying mitochondrial disease that can cause symptoms similar to autism.

SouthDakotaDem, if you presented evidence or argument instead of condescension and anger, you might get a better response. There are a number of factors that are troubling in the thimerosal argument–rates of autism not decreasing after use ceased, rate increases correlating with changes in definitions of disability for education support, skewed percentages between boys and girls not duplicated in vaccinations, all in addition to near universal research results finding no connection. Instead of claiming you’re under attack and attempting sarcasm, how about pointing to some of the many research opinions supporting your position. As others have noted, the demeaning of expertise and authority so beloved of the rethugs doesn’t help any of us; I’d like to think we could do better.

Whether or not vaccines with thimerosol actually contribute to autism, there is no doubt that mercury is a potent neurotoxin. Why expose a fragile, developing central nervous system to something like that?

It shouldn’t be used as a preservative in any vaccines; note: apparently it has already been removed from “routine” childhood vaccines in the US and most or all vaccines in the EU.

I have written an article about the possible link between prenatal ultrasound, which has little-known thermal effects, and autism, available online at: http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasoundrodgers.asp
As I explain in the article, although the vaccine-autism link has been disproved, if heat shock proteins were damaged during fetal development, the first thermal incident — for a minority of children, the fever that sometimes follows a vaccination — could have devastating results. It is interesting to note that ultrasound can also cause “irreversible” damage to mitochondria, according to a study done 30 years ago. Information regarding that study is available at: http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc22.htm, Section 6, which addresses the “Biological Effects of Ultrasound on Biological Systems.”

Quote from pubmed:

We observed that blood mercury levels after intramuscular administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines to newborn, 2-month-old, and 6-month-old infants were at their highest level shortly after vaccination and returned to prevaccination levels within a few weeks. Prevaccination levels of blood mercury in 6-month-olds were not higher than those in 2-month-olds, suggesting that exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines does not result in an accumulation of mercury in blood as might have been predicted if the blood half-life were similar to that of methyl mercury. Using a model that accounted for baseline mercury levels, ethyl mercury dosage, and timing of vaccination, we estimated the blood half-life of mercury after administration of thimerosal to be 3.7 days, which did not vary significantly by age group.

When I wrote “Everyone knows that the real cause of autism is cold mothers. In fact that’s the cause of every ill in society.” it was supposed to be snark. At this point I don’t trust any research that keeps big pharma from getting sued.

We are bombarding ourselves with more poisons, toxins, chemicals, electromagnetic fields, genetically-modified everything – than ever before in human history, and we have the nerve to wonder why so many of us are so unhealthy. We are probably screwing up the genetic code of the human species forever. On top of that is a massive wave of extinctions going on around the planet, a growing sea of plastic waste in the Pacific, etc etc. And yet, some of us continue to have this simple faith in “scientific progress.”

The venom spent on themerisol detractors is misplaced.
That the dosages of mercury administered through the combination of multiple vaccines given to small children exceeded maximum safe dosages determined at the time (and unchanged, as far as I’ve heard) is NOT debated.

Whether this damages children is the only thing debated. I’d also liek to point out that manufacturers stopped using thimeresol, but the remaining stock was still used up.

Since this debate may well have been responsible for the reduction of mercury from vaccines to restore trusted levels, I’m annoyed that portions of the medical establishment seem to place equal weight behind their criticism that this publicity reduces vaccination rates (valid) and that mercury involved in the risky vaccines has never been proven to cause any mental problems (water under the bridge). By emphasizing the “craziness” of the anti-vaccine crowd, they run the risk of sounding suspiciously like shilling for the pharmaceutical industries. A charge that has proven valid all too often.

By all means, emphasize this take home point: “Vaccinate. If it ever WAS risky, it isn’t anymore.”

That said, if pharma hurt kids because they’d make a little more money adding a mercury based preservative to their admittedly critical medicines, do we look the other way? I’m not even saying there’s any “there” there, I just get paranoid when the harping over controversial ongoing evidence (the CDC is STILL investigating) reaches levels this hostile and shrill. This is not Roswell. This is a situation where pharmaceutical companies are at risk for millions of dollars. There’s big money involved to shut this up if there’s any validity at all. If the candidates wish to flesh out controversies and is reluctant to bury issues people are still upset about, isn’t that a good thing in the super secret squirrel 1984 dystopia King George and Dick Cheney are trying to pass off as normal and necessary? It’s the opposite of “Trust us. We’re the government.” (Not that I believe all three of them are sincere.)

Given enough data, well presented, without name-calling towards those who may be misplacing blame, this myth will go the way of global warming deniers, assuming we find that it should.

This is a dangerous misconception.-“Whether this damages children is the only thing debated. I’d also liek to point out that manufacturers stopped using thimeresol, but the remaining stock was still used up.”

Wrong! Mercury is still in common child hood vaccines. It was removed from some but remains in several,most notorioulsly- the flu shot. Everyone that gets one will be overdosed with mercury.

Vaccines definitely cause Autism and a host of other developmental disorders. Why has the vaccine injury fund paid out 2 billion dollars in damages(excluding autism damages) if they are so safe?
Why is Obama getting so much press on this? Anyone that can’t comprehend that mercury, aluminum and multiple live viruses injected in to an infant likely causes problems just isn’t very smart-or they work for the drug industry. Most people just don’t know what is in them, how they are made or how they are supposed to work. If they did the vaccine rate would plummet. Blame for the increase of vaccine preventable disease would rest with those that knew the problem but failed to act. The obvious solution is to make them safer (which can be done) but in their infinite wisdom our government and vaccine producers have determined the 50 cents additional cost per dose may cut into profits and just isn’t worth the hassle. Tell that to the mom getting the news right now that her child has been vaccinated into autism. A new DX every 20 minutes.

DM_Metzger,

Ha, Ha, way to quote the Pichichero study. So, where does all this ethyl mercury go once it leaves the blood as quickly as it does (10 times as quickly as reported). It’s not like this was a surprise that it left the blood so fast, but where does it go? Hmm, maybe a quick look at some of the other studies by Burbacher on ethyl mercury can help….. It was amazing that Pichichero could conclude that it ALL got excreted, since that is never how mercury acts in the body, not even the “good” mercury. He can pretend that it all does but his numbers sure don’t add up and it’s not like he got it all back out of each kid.

Hey, since the good mercury leaves the blood 10 times as fast, maybe we can put in 10 times the amount so it will last 10 times as long on the shelves. Woo hoo! More profit for everyone!

What, it might go into the brain 10 times as quickly…no way..Thank god Pichinchero says it doesn’t. We can trust his unbiased word.

When did they take Thimersol out of vaccines? Oh yes, it is still there. Flu shots, Rhogam, etc. It is still being used in addition to multiple other preservatives and junk in the vaccines.

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