Biden blasts McCain after warrantless-wiretap flip-flop

One of the traditional roles for a presidential running mate is a willingness — and ideally, a propensity — to be an “attack dog,” going after the rival party and saying the things the candidate would say, if he or she wasn’t trying to appear above the fray.

It’s probably too soon to talk too seriously about Joe Biden’s chances of making the ticket, but if he’s auditioning for the part, and hoping to prove himself as a sufficiently aggressive pugilist, I think he’s doing an awfully good job.

We learned this week, for example, that John McCain has completely reversed course on the White House’s authority to conduct warrantless searches of Americans’ phone calls and emails. Six months ago, asked specifically whether federal statutes trumped a president’s war-time authority, McCain said, “I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law.” Now, McCain has apparently given up on this, and embraced the Bush administration’s “sweeping theories of executive authority.”

Biden, not willing to let opportunities like these pass him by, pounced. (via mcjoan)

…Biden wrote that the FISA statute, which he helped draft, “made clear the exclusive legal steps the President must take in order to conduct national security surveillance.”

“President Bush chose to ignore the law and now it seems Senator McCain will continue this policy,” Biden writes. “Once again – there is no daylight between President Bush and Sen. McCain.”

“We all share the goal of capturing the terrorists and protecting national security and we can do that without violating the privacy of the American people,” he added. “Like President Bush, Sen. McCain is presenting the American people with a false choice — national security or civil liberties. We need a President who understands that we can have both. It’s what our values and our Constitution demands.”

First, good for him. Second, this seems to be part of a trend.

This comes two weeks after Biden went after Joe Lieberman’s latest defense of McCain’s foreign policy worldview…

Last week, John McCain was very clear. He ruled out talking to Iran. He said that Barack Obama was “naïve and inexperienced” for advocating engagement; “What is it he wants to talk about?” he asked.

Well, for a start, Iran’s nuclear program, its support for Shiite militias in Iraq, and its patronage of Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza.

Beyond bluster, how would Mr. McCain actually deal with these dangers? You either talk, you maintain the status quo, or you go to war. If Mr. McCain has ruled out talking, we’re stuck with an ineffectual policy or military strikes that could quickly spiral out of control.

Sen. Obama is right that the U.S. should be willing to engage Iran on its nuclear program without “preconditions” – i.e. without insisting that Iran first freeze the program, which is the very subject of any negotiations. He has been clear that he would not become personally involved until the necessary preparations had been made and unless he was convinced his engagement would advance our interests.

…which came a week after Biden went after Bush for his “appeasement” talk…

“This is bullshit, this is malarkey. This is outrageous, for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, to sit in the Knesset … and make this kind of ridiculous statement.”

…which came a few months after Biden made Rudy Giuliani look pretty ridiculous on international current events, back when the former mayor looked like a credible presidential candidate.

I’m not saying Biden’s the ideal running mate. First, Biden led the way on that ridiculous bankruptcy bill, and I’ll probably never forgive him for it. Second, he eschews message discipline, and is well known for sticking his foot in his mouth with embarrassing gaffes.

That said, the more he stays on the offensive against McCain and his cohorts, the more I like him.

Thanks, Sen. Biden. I hope that you are joined by a chorus of your Democratic colleagues, pointing out McCain’s numerous follies, one by one by one.

Biden is a great Senator. VP? I don’t think so. Too fond of the sound of his own voice.

  • for all the issues i have with joe biden, he won my undying admiration when – after bush’s “appeasement” speech before the knesset – he quite literally called bullshit!

  • Biden doesn’t need to be a VP candidate to fill the attack dog role. But one of the things that makes him effective is that he has the experience that McCain likes to say Obama lacks. In fact I think this is where endorsements are important. It’s not so much whether they have star power per se, but rather what perspective do they give credence to. Oprah broke barriers to achieve greatness and her priorities are aligned with human dignity, opportunity and spirituality. Three former SEC commissioners represented enforcement of regulations rather than creation of them. Biden represents Military and Judiciary concerns. I’d love to see Obama get endorsements from Bloomberg (economics and executive management) and David Iglesias (law enforcement)

  • I have a friend who worked for Biden during his short-lived presidential bid this year. According to what she told me, Biden is angling for SecState, not VP. Even during his presidential campaign, he would comment to his staff about how he’d like to be SecState in the next Democratic administration– much to the frustration of the staff members, all of whom were hoping to see him become President! So, his serving as “attack dog” may be his way of wresting that position away from Bill Richardson, the other likely contender for it. This isn’t the Veepstakes; it’s the . . . StateStakes, I guess?

  • There’s still that plagiarism thing that sunk his first Presidential bid. I know it smacks of “gotcha” bullshit. But it really is revelatory of character, or the lack thereof.

    OK, I’m an English teacher. But other people feel the same way.

  • Yes but isn’t this what all dems should be doing without it seeming like they are auditioning for VP. The truth is the truth and every dem should be exposing McCain for the war dictator he plans to become. Good on Biden but is he the only one speaking out or the only one getting media attention?

  • Back in the 1980s I was working as a messenger, which meant I spent all day long in the car. And I listened to NPR for much of the day. So I got to enjoy the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork, and the Iran-Contra hearings not long after. Biden was part of both of those, and he impressed the hell out of me. Granted, since then there have been plenty of times when I’ve wondered what happened to that guy — the bankruptcy bill is a prime example, as is that “articulate” remark he made. But when I read comments like the ones he’s been making recently, I think, “Oh good — he’s back.”

    I like the speculation that Biden wants to be Secretary of State. I think he’d be a lot more useful there than in the Vice Presidency.

    As for who Obama will ultimately pick, I like to think he’ll surprise us — in a good way. I’m thinking he’ll find someone who isn’t the subject of any of the speculation, and we’ll react with “Of course — it makes perfect sense!”

    We’ll know in a while….

  • Well Danp, he does have Warren Buffett’s endorsement, which isn’t bad on the economic front. Buffet’s story is so amazing that I’m surprised he isn’t a more prominent figure in American culture. He went from 0 to the richest man in the world – and only joined the top 400 in the US in 1979. And he lives in a house that he bought back in 1958 for 30k. And pays himself 100k per year. To me, he’s one of the very strongest, if not the strongest, endorsement of Obama on the economy.

  • I have a great deal of respect for Biden, as I used to live in Delaware. But I want him to stay in the Senate. In fact, I want Obama to stay away from Congress all together, if he possibly can, when choosing his VP and cabinet. The kind of people he would choose are the kind we need to keep in the Senate and the House to fight against the GOP’s obstructionism.

    That might be a pipe dream, but I really hope we don’t have to deplete the democratic caucus.

  • Obama needs as many attack-dog surrogates as he can muster. Biden certainly has been one. I just wonder if HRC will assume that role too after she gets through wearing out the first-person pronoun. Bill Clinton in 1992 had an instant response center, and so far it looks as though Obama does too. Keeping McSame off-balance is probably a good strategy. He really doesn’t have a very effective operation to counteract his endless flip-flops, but the 527 racist smear monster hasn’t been released yet.

  • When he’s good, he’s good, no question. But “Too fond of the sound of his own voice” pretty much nails it. Anyway, he needs to stay in the Senate. Gotta have those numbers for there to be any hope of an end to spinelessness.

  • Shade Tail, while I agree with you on the fact that Obama should not select his VP from Congress, I actually think it’ll be a good thing if he picks some of the more senior members of the caucus for his Cabinet– that is, the senior members who come from safely blue states. Why? Well, frankly, I think that places like Massachusetts and Delaware could use some new blood representing them in the Senate. For example, if Obama picked Kerry for Attorney General (which I think would be a great idea, since Kerry, unlike the oft-mentioned Edwards, has extensive experience as a prosecutor,) that could pave the way for a younger, less stale candidate– State Attorney General Martha Coakley, perhaps– to take that Senate seat. Frankly, if people have been in the Senate for too long, they start to lose touch with the world outside. We’ve got enough silver-haired lions serving right now; an infusion of younger blood might reinforce the Democratic Party as the “party of ideas.” So, with that in mind– please, bring on Secretary of State Biden and Attorney General Kerry. And, while you’re at it, throw in something for Arlen Specter and Olympia Snowe. I’m sure the Democratic governors of their respective states will find capable replacements for them in the Senate. 😉

  • I was a Joe Biden campaign volunteer here in Iowa. I heard him speak a number of times. Joe is not saying anything now that he wasn’t saying then except for what might be peculiar to more recent events and details. He always said that Democrats needed to project a stronger image on national security, and I guess he has decided that someone has to counter the other side on this while Hillary and Obama were busy throwing barbs at each other.
    But nobody was listening to the voice of knowledge when Joe was running. They all wanted a “Savior”, even if the savior didn’t know enough about forgeign policy to have an intelligent opinion.Sorry there are so many of you people out there who think that a pretty speech is worth more than knowledge and experience. The biggest “change” of all will be getting Bush out of the Whitehouse.
    Joe also said many times that he didn’t want either the VP position or the Secretary of State position. What he DID say was “Should anyone be running for president who couldn’t be a good Secretary of State?” And as to that tired old plagiarism canard, anyone who passes that along is just plain ignorant of the real story!
    Joe is just doing now what Obama is incapable of doing, which is speaking with authority on foreign policy.

  • […] isn’t this what all dems should be doing without it seeming like they are auditioning for VP — joey, @7

    Absolutely. Like a swarm of killer bees. All over McCain, all his supporters and all of the Repub “brand”.

  • Sorry there are so many of you people out there who think that a pretty speech is worth more than knowledge and experience. The biggest “change” of all will be getting Bush out of the Whitehouse. ………Joe is just doing now what Obama is incapable of doing, which is speaking with authority on foreign policy.
    Sorry, but I think you’ve got the cart before the horse here. Biden has had much the same level of experience through all his recent attempts at the presidency, and look how far that’s got him. A president’s first job is to get elected, and his or her second is to inspire the people so that they are willing to be led somewhere. Expertise is very nice, but good judgement is even better. Staff and cabinet secretaries can supply expertise as easily or more easily than they can supply judgement. If Biden gets to have a bigger say in foreign policy than he can get from his senatorial position, it will be because President Obama gave it to him.

  • Caped Composer – also, perhaps, Lieberman for ambassador to Israel.

    Joe @#7 – Imagine where we’d be if Hillary had been making Biden’s arguments for the last three months.

  • Caped Crusader, good points all. Snow I can buy…Spector? Hmmm…Secretary of Animal Affairs, maybe…but I kind of like animals so probably not. Interesting on Kerry for AG. I never thought of him for that.

    Lieberman as Ambassador to Israel. He’d probably take it because his role in the Senate is on life support.

    As for Obama knowing and seeing all, I would take an honest, smart person who knew enough to put good people in the areas he may lack – and actually listen to them, someone who reads the briefings and has the ability to understand them and the ramifications, etc., would trump someone with experience in this or that single area.

    No one has it all. But the things that count the most, especially right now, are not that kind of experience.

  • That’s Composer. Caped Composer. I’m Jewish, so I’m not in the crusading business!

    Regarding Lieberman . . . remember, Connecticut has a Republican governor right now, so, much as all of us want to see Joe-mentum’s backstabbing arse thrown out of the Senate, we can’t do that right now, since his replacement would be a Republican.

  • That’s Composer. Caped Composer. I’m Jewish, so I’m not in the crusading business!

    Regarding Lieberman . . . remember, Connecticut has a Republican governor right now, so, much as all of us want to see that self-aggrandizing, two-faced schmo thrown out of the Senate, we can’t do that right now, since his replacement would be a Republican.

  • OMG! I am so sorry! I typed it and was reading up and down so many posts, my mind changed it. I should have used copy-paste.

    Dumb me. Forgive me!!

  • A typo here, a double-post there– no prob, MsJoanne. 😀

    Some ideal cabinet positions are:
    Secretary of State Joe Biden
    Attorney General John Kerry
    Labor Secretary John Edwards
    National Security Advisor Chuck Hagel
    Secretary of Defense Sam Nunn
    White House Chief of Staff Tom Daschle
    Treasury Secretary Warren Buffett

    Any other ideas?

  • I think I’ll take to calling you CC…keep me honest (and not looking half as stupid as I can do so well anyway).

    I love the idea of Buffett as Sec Treas. That is brilliant! The right would make him the new George Soros. I am picturing BillO’s head exploding. Buffett gave away billions in charity. Billions! In CHARITY! The anthesis of the gooper platform. Damned socialist that he is. He has no understanding or appreciation for capitalism, for goodness sake. Think of the children!

    Oh, the comedic possibilities.

  • I think it’s quite unlikely that Buffett agrees to a cabinet position. He has a company to run and he takes this job very seriously.

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