Breaking into the 30s

It was only a matter of time before Bush’s approval rating dropped from the 40s to the 30s. And here we are.

George W. Bush’s overall job approval ratings have dropped from a month ago even as Americans who approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president are turning more optimistic about their personal financial situations according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. Among all Americans, 36% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 58% disapprove. When it comes to Bush’s handling of the economy, 33% approve and 62% disapprove.

Among Americans registered to vote, 38% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 56% disapprove, and 36% approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 60% disapprove.

Pay particular attention to the partisan breakdown. Bush’s approval rating among self-identified Republicans has dropped to 77%, which is still hard to explain but considerably lower than it’s been over the last several years. Among Dems, 15% approve and 81% disapprove. But among elf-identified independents, Bush’s approval rating is just 21%, with 72% disapproving.

Have Americans been impressed by the president’s five-week break? Apparently, not so much.

It’s not a perfect comparison, but if we use Gallup data, around this point in their presidencies, Nixon was caught up in Watergate and LBJ was suffering politically due to Vietnam. And yet, neither saw their approval ratings drop below 40% by the summer of their fifth year in office.

So, how low can he go?

It would be nice to see single digits.

  • 31%. There is a hard core of misguided, easily duped, lazy morons out there who will never be able to see the light.

  • It reminds me a bit of the U.K. political situation after the ’92 elections. The Tories had been in power under Thatcher for a very long time, though they’d dumped her for John Major some time before. Major managed to scrape to a bare win in the ’92 elections, but in the years following, the conservatives’ popularity dropped like a rock. By ’97 they were so unpopular that Labour swept into power. From the BBC website:

    The party returned to power with a parliamentary landslide, winning the biggest majority held by any government since 1935.

    Tony Blair’s New Labour had gained a staggering 179-seat overall majority in the Commons as the Conservatives were tossed aside by the voters.

    The election also saw the Liberal Democrats put in a remarkable performance, more than doubling their number of MPs despite taking a reduced share of the vote compared with 1992.

    In the election’s aftermath, commentators speculated whether it was at all possible for the Conservatives to overturn such a huge majority in a single election.

    Given the entrenched position the Republicans have built for themselves over the years, we likely won’t see such a huge reversal of fortune. However, the amount of ill will they’ve stored up is truly remarkable.

  • Dude, I think you mean Vietnam.

    Oops. It’s fixed. Chalk it up to Monday Typing Disease.

  • I can see it now. If Bush’s numbers push up to 40 or above sometime in the next few months, for whatever reason, the right wing will be hooting about how well Bush is doing and the press will talk endlessly about his resiliency in the face of bitter partisan attacks.

  • Is there any record of a president falling so far so soon after being reelected?

    Methinks that if this keeps up, Shrub won’t last a full term–maybe get impeached, as I’ve been long predicting.

  • I think the 20’s are possible, especially if the Iraqi “Constitution” creates an Islamic state with friendly ties to Iran AND removes secular rights for women, as now appears is likely — and all apparently with Bush’s blessings.

    Add that with three other principal factors (maybe four or even five), and Bush will continue to “tank” in his popularity. The three/four/five factors include:

    (A) The fact that this new “corner” being turned in Iraq will likely be another dead-end with no discernible reduction in the guerrilla war and U.S. casualties OR in the provision of basic governmental services of ordinary Iraqis, just like those that came before (the fall of Baghdad in April 2003; the capture of Saddam in December 2003; the turnover to Allawi and the Iraq Interim Authority from the Provisional Authority and Bremer in June 2004, the “elections” in January 2005; yada yada yada).

    (B) Cindy Sheehan isn’t going away any time soon, nor is the spotlight that is now focused on Bush’s incompetence in planning and carrying out the war as well as on his lies that gave rise to the invasion in the first place.

    (C) Gas prices aren’t going down anytime soon, and people are still mad as hell at the “Energy Bill” tax give-aways to the oil companies at the very time they are recording massive increases in profits while opur pockets are being picked at the gas pumps every day — with no relief in sight.

    (D) Maybe, just maybe, the American public is finally “getting” Bush’s disconnect from reality, with his record-breaking vacation binges, with his whining “It’s important for me to live my life” while there are tens of thousands who are DEAD AS DOORNAILS because of his elective and illegal war, with his refusal to go to even one funeral for a dead troop KIA in Iraq, and with his always trying to scare the shit out of them (i.e., terror alerts, worthless I.O.U.’s in the SS Trust Fund; SS is going bankrupt in only 5 years, etc.).

    (E) The four factors noted above do not even consider that Fitzgerald will likely wrap up his investigation in the next 60-75 days (with possible indictments of top White House officials); revelations of continuing corruption throughout the Rethug world that seems to gaining momentum (Arnie in CA, OOH, KY, the poster children Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff, just to name a few); the possible dog fight over John Roberts in the Senate and with the White House for its yet-again stonewalling of documents; continuing bad press on violation of prisoner rights at Guantanimo, at Abu Gharib (and watch out IF those second wave of photos and videos are in fact released to the public, as they should be), in Afghanistan and elsewhere; and who knows about more terrorist bombings or other acts (e.g., ricin on subways or sabotage of chemical plants) especially in the U.S. or other allied countries. There seems to be NO good news that will help ordinary Americans, and therefore help Bush’s polls numbers.

    The bottom line is that America is FINALLY seeing all of the B.S., and l expect that, as is especially demonstrated by the self-identified Independents in this most recent ARG poll, the American people are clearly unhappy — and pinning the blame where it belongs. Jimmy Carter got to the 20’s, as did LBJ and Tricky Dicky; won’t be long before Shrub joins this infamous club, too!!

  • …even as Americans who approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president are turning more optimistic about their personal financial situations

    Were Americans financial situations better in November 04 than now? Remember the the issues proxy…Anti abortion, anti gay = personal prosperity and upward mobility. Somehow the radical right is unhappy, if we could just identify with what and push it hard.

  • Ezra seems to agree:

    As Garance says, that likely means we’ve reached a sort of tipping point, with most everyone but hard Republicans fed up and finished with our hapless chief executive. Was it Sheehan? Was it Iraq? My guess, actually, is that it’s his vacation. If the guy can’t be bothered to remain at work while his various initiatives explode around us, he doesn’t deserve our support. For comparison, it’s interesting to note that Clinton’s second-term approval ratings never dropped below 40%. Not once.

    http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2005/08/the_incredible_.html

  • But still, the Democratic leadership offers no
    meaningful alternative to the Bush agenda.
    The public has said for a long time that
    the nation is heading in the wrong direction.
    Presumably, then, there is a right direction,
    like getting out of Iraq, national health care,
    action on global warming and alternative
    energy, job losses and job downgrading,
    fair tax reform et al, but the Democratic
    leadership won’t touch these issues.

    Good article at Huffingtonpost on the
    Dems copycat Iraq policy and failure
    to have any agenda of their own, today.
    Sorry, forgot to capture the URL. Just
    go to the site.

    What’s the matter with the Democrats,
    anyway? And I think this is why they
    aren’t winning. They have no agenda
    but for carping about the Republicans.
    Why are they so spineless, so afraid
    of advancing a real platform? Seems
    we have one party of chickenhawks
    and the other of chickenshits, pardon
    the language, AL.

    If Chuck Hagel has the guts to stand
    up to Bush’s disastrous Iraq policy,
    Why don’t Clinton, Kerry, Biden and
    Dean? It’s disgusting.

    It’s been said that one Republican party
    is bad enough. Who needs two?

  • I’m with Bubba at 31%. (As a side note, I would give my left nut if Bubba were, in fact, Bill Clinton.)

    The fact is Republicans are like their minister of morality Bill Bennett: they can’t haul themselves away from the slot machine no matter how much they lose because they are suckers at heart and simply cannot accept and certainly not admit that they were ever wrong.

  • I’m not so sure this is a meaningful drop.
    We need the partisan breakdown from
    the previous poll. Seems to me he’s
    lost a lot of Republican support. If so,
    it’s almost certainly the evangelicals
    getting pissed off. If that’s true, it
    doesn’t mean much – they’ll still vote
    Republican.

    But I don’t remember the previous numbers
    clearly enough to draw a conclusion about
    this suprising plunge.

  • But still, the Democratic leadership offers no meaningful alternative to the Bush agenda.

    Hark is correct here. Even if last November’s election were run today, I’m not sure Bush’s unpopularity would change anything. Until the Democratic party makes a strong and organized push, swing voters will chose someone they don’t even like.

    No president should take such a long vacation during war time, or tell the mother of a dead soldier that he has to get on with his life. I should not hear a Democrat speak in congress or the senate without hearing those two things everytime. Plus a Rove kicker at the end.

    I’ve said it before, and again, I admire the GOP for their organization and ability to stay on message. If Democrats had one tenth of that, we’d probably live in a completely different world.

  • But among elf-identified independents, Bush’s approval rating is just 21%, with 72% disapproving.

    I’ll bet the independents not identified by elves rated GWB even lower. 😉

  • The only way Bush could get much lower is to start losing Republicans. I just don’t see that happening. They have their own media and don’t see the same set of facts as the rest of us. Something dramatic would have to happen to cut through the wall.

  • as mcuh as i want to believe, unfortuantely a rasmussen poll says 48%
    a little to early for Bilmon’s `Sic Transit Gloria Shrub` i’m afraid

  • Gallup released its numbers this morning:

    George W. Bush Approval Rating
    Most Recent Rating: 2005 Aug 8-11
    45% Approve
    51% Disapprove

    “State of the Country” Satisfaction Rating
    Most Recent: 2005 Aug 8-11
    37% Satisfied
    60% Dissatisfied

    Economic Confidence Ratings
    Most Recent: 2005 Aug 8-11
    36% Excellent/Good
    64% Only fair/Poor

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