Bush balks at children’s health, vetoes S-CHIP bill

The president was very anxious to make his case against expanding the State Children’s Health Insurance Program in a very public way, complete with a press conference, a radio address, and a fairly aggressive media press. But when it came time to reject the bipartisan measure to provide access to care for millions of low-income families, Bush hid.

President Bush, in a confrontation with Congress, on Wednesday vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have dramatically expanded children’s health insurance.

It was only the fourth veto of Bush’s presidency, and one that some Republicans feared could carry steep risks for their party in next year’s elections. The Senate approved the bill with enough votes to override the veto, but the margin in the House fell short of the required number.

The White House sought as little attention as possible, with the president wielding his veto behind closed doors without any fanfare or news coverage.

John Kerry, noting that the president has “single-handedly jeopardized health care for millions of poor children,” issued a compelling press statement:

“The President’s twisted rationale that he opposes ‘federalizing’ health care is a hollow excuse for undermining a successful effort to give Governors the control and the tools to deliver health care for kids who desperately need it. President Bush conveniently forgot that he ran for reelection with a promise to give health care to millions more children and now as a lame duck president he is working to take it away. It seems George Bush was for kids’ health care before he was against it.”

As for what happens next, a pretty big campaign is about to get underway.

There’s no question that Dems are going to press for a veto-override. They already have the votes in the Senate, and need a couple of dozen more in the House. With that in mind, the leadership sees no need to rush the override vote onto the floor.

House Democrats say they plan to send legislation expanding a children’s health insurance program to President Bush later Tuesday, expecting him to veto it within hours. But an override vote might not come for days or weeks.

Democratic leaders said they might delay a showdown to allow pressure to build on House Republicans who oppose the legislation. Labor unions and religious groups announced campaigns to encourage GOP members to vote for an override.

[Majority Leader Steny Hoyer] offered no date for an override vote. “Maybe next week. Maybe the week after. There’s no time limit,” Hoyer said.

Families USA has already unveiled a new ad, the DCCC is running radio spots in key GOP House districts, and AFSCME said this week that a coalition of liberal groups will host more than 200 events nationwide to highlight the issue

For those keeping score, this is the fourth veto of Bush’s presidency. He spent his first six years in the Oval Office without touching the veto pen — he was the first president since John Adams to go an entire term in office without rejecting a single bill — but ended the streak last summer, vetoing a bill to expand federal stem-cell research. Since then, he’s vetoed funding for the troops in Iraq (because the measure included a timeline for withdrawal), a new stem-cell bill, and then today, healthcare for children.

Stay tuned.

This is what I sent to Oregon Rep. Greg Walden who voted against S-CHIP today:

Please vote to override the S-CHIP veto by The Worst President Ever. The
Iraq Occupation is costing the United States of America dearly in
soldiers’ lives and taxpayers’ hard-earned dollars to pad the pockets of
friends of The Worst President and Vice President Ever. That money should
go to help all Americans–particularly America’s children.

A $30 billion increase in health-care coverage for children is a drop in
the bucket compared with the trillions of dollars that the Iraq debacle
eventually will cost our nation.

It is a moral outrage that the United States of America does not offer
Universal Health Care for all its citizens. I support ending health-care
insurance for Congress until all Americas receive the same insurance
coverage.

  • What a crushing, humiliating defeat for Bush and his ilk this would be if the House can muster the votes for a veto. Time for the Democrats to stand up and fight for once.

    I wonder what kind of signing statement Bush would issue.

  • Maybe John Kerry should STFU. He’s shown just how effective he is–not at all–pushing back against Bush.

    As for Bush, it would be nice if someone asked him if this “principle” is worth one child of a low-income family dying because s/he wasn’t able to get health care–or if that death is a satisfactory price to pay for keeping the federal cigarette tax where it is. (Never mind that raising said tax itself is likely to have the result of lowering publicly borne health costs for sufferers of smoking-related illnesses.) I won’t hold my breath.

    He’s a monster. There really isn’t much else to say.

  • I agree with holding off on the House override vote, but it would seem to make sense to kick off the “pressure campaign” by having the Senate vote. Once the one chamber has voted in a bipartisan manner to override, that becomes part of the narrative and helps establish the pressure on the House.

    For anyone counting votes, trying to pressure Steve King (R-IA 5) is a waste of resources.

  • Perhaps Bush should have to personally pay for his war and his colonoscopy out of pocket to learn a little about the cost of living…

  • It’s nice to know that there are hundreds of billions for war, but not for children. Not because children don’t need health care, but because somehow or other, giving more children health insurance through an evil government program would be a breach of the barricades.

    Maybe if we could have framed it as some kind of war, we could have managed to eke out a few dollars.

  • Awesome for us. Get those Republican votes written down and gear up the commercials. We want to have this issue going into the next election.

  • I agree with holding off on the House override vote, but it would seem to make sense to kick off the “pressure campaign” by having the Senate vote. Once the one chamber has voted in a bipartisan manner to override, that becomes part of the narrative and helps establish the pressure on the House.

    Seconded.

  • The list continues to lengthen … we know the Bushies hate back people, Democrats, MoveOn, all Iranians, a lot of Iraqis, North Korea and now children. I’m sure I missed a lot of others, too. Who will have the Kanye West moment on this action?

    Glad to see Bush pointing the gun to shoot his party in the foot after holding it to our heads for so long about the war.

  • This is the moment when the Democratic noise machine swings into full gear saying through every mouthpiece in every venue, “Compassionate conservatism is a fraud…and it always was.”

    Oh, there is no Democratic noise machine. Oh well.

  • On MSNBC just now, they said Bush’s reasoning for the veto was because the bill had been expanded to possibly insure some adults.

    The horror… the HORROR…

    So nice of Bush not to take this issue off the table before November.

  • Of course there’s no money for children’s health care. It’s not like government officials can fly coach! Are you crazy!?

  • George W Bush is a PIG. He is greedy, arrogant, and a phony. When will our so called leaders get the courage to impeach this monster? God help us if our government lifts a finger to help the people who actually pay the taxes. It’s tough enough to be poor, but now low income parents will have to choose between food and the doctor. Of course there is always the ER. Anyone been there lately? It takes hours to be seen because of the huge numbers of uninsured. Of course our PIG PRESIDENT doesn’t have to go to the ER because he is privileged. There is “compassionate conservative” unmasked.

  • The occupant living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in our nation’s capital has just confirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt for everyone in the world to see, his utter lack of compassion for others more disadvantaged than he ever was. Yes, I mark this veto as a defining moment in the presidency of a man seemingly disconnected from our common human experience and condition.

    I see Mr. Bush as a kindergartener who absolutely refused to share the sand toys during recess. He has taken such anti-social behavor to the halls of our government. We can do so much better, so let Mr. Bush be our Voltairean reminder of the horrors we were capable of in the past, but now would be wise not to repeat. -Kevo

  • The only reason this is Bush’s 4th veot only is because senate republicans have obstructed nearly any democratic legislation that would normally have gone to the president for him to veto…even with a majority of bipartisan support, one repub would threaten filibuster and keep the measure from reaching the president’s desk. Otherwise this would be the veto president of all time.
    I am concerned that this will be a major distraction from the war funding battle about to occur. At any rate, this is shameless behavior from the president especially for the reasons he offers for the veto. This was a successful program with major benefits for all those involved. Has this president done anything that was of benefit to our nation’s people…anything?

  • Cry Havoc! Let slip the Snowflake Babies of War!

    From The Politico:

    Earlier this week, small children pulled red Radio Flyers filled with petitions in support of the plan up to President Bush’s front door.

    But the White House didn’t accept the mailbags, so organizers turned the wagons around and said they would deliver the 1 million signatures to Congress instead.

    OK, I understand the security concerns but turning away kids pulling RF wagons looks just plain mean. Saying “We had security concerns,” implies you think the kiddies are maniacs and sounds just plain crazy.

    Democratic leaders said they might delay a showdown to allow pressure to build on House Republicans who oppose the legislation.

    Exactly. Sit back and watch the GOPers sweat.

    I for one am looking forward to ads that show Congresscritter ReThuglicans juxtaposed with photos of children in hospital beds. If the Rep. or Sen. has a strong anti-abortion record, it can be used to hit him over the head until he bleeds from the ears.

    Please God, don’t let the Democrats in office screw this one up….

  • Is Bush on the take for this one too? Does he really need more money to add to his personal fortune? Probably not. So, why else would he veto this bill? Is it to please mommy? Daddy? Daddy-Cheney? Daddy-Cheney/Mommy-Condi?

    Remember years ago when then governor Bush called himself a, “compassionate conservative”? What he and Daddy-Cheney are running is more like a “compassionate dictatorship” (Uncompassionate, after this most recent veto).

    Don’t allow them to finish their term. Sack them now, America!

  • Saddly, for many in my party up is now down and other self-contradicting behavior is rationalized and justified seemingly through whim and caprice. In the meantime, our nation’s children deserve better. I would most definitely like to see this veto overridden. Pressure on the Congressional Republicans is the only option now to see a fair piece of legislation, good for common Americans, get passed into law. Mr. Bush has yet again proven himself to be more interested in protecting the top 2% of our nation at the expense of us commoners. -Kevo

  • I think the Democrats should add income levels to the S Chip legislation each time Bush vetoes it and send it back repeatedly until all Americans, children and adults alike, are covered by health insurance. Then the next president can sign it into law.

  • Bush can kiss my white ass, fuck him fuck congress and fuck everybody in there. If those fags can get 450billion dollars for fucking war and not 35billion for childern the they can all go fuck themselves, democrats and repubicans ALL OF THEM. He W
    used some kind of bullcrap polical shit to veto this so he can sleep at night in his billion dollar ranch! It makes me SICK to my stomach! How in the fucking hell can a rich as hell polition spew this I under stand the middle class when they are multi-millionaire’s with four homes and lots of money to spare….we need to take back our home and kick these fat ass self serving politions to the curb. WHAT A FUCK JOKE, I WILL NOT VOTE! I have no faith in any of the candiates. I have NOT faith that any of these people will keep any of their promises what a waste of space.

  • Anyone actually read the bill?

    Please note that there are other important considerations to this bill. In PA, the CHIP program aims to take money away from that allocated to nursing homes (billions over the next 4 years) while leaving doctors, hospitals, etc… untouched. Strangely, I don’t see this mentioned in any of the articles on MSN or CNN. Does the author even read the details of the bill? Sure, children are very compelling and shoving them in the media with a picket sign brings a tear to my eye: Mainly from the blatent exploitation of those unable to comprehend the complexities of this type of legislation. Go ahead, ask little Bobby if he would like to go to the doctor’s office and stop caring for Grandpa after his stroke, the same person who protected this country or fought for this country or perhaps took care of little Bobby. Our veterans, loved ones, seniors need care and as time and length of life increases there will be ever increasing amounts of those who need post operative care, care after stroke or heart attack, dementia or Alzheimer’s.

    I’m not a huge fan of our president but for once I may have to agree with the veto. Don’t rob Peter to pay Paul.

    Shame on the authors who wrote the articles that I read. How about a link to the bill so everyone can read? Talking points would be a start and easily digestible. As an author on such a large network like CNN or MSN I expect a certainl level of research and facts at my disposal. Try reporting the news instead of those baseless pictures of children holding picket signs. After all, the children don’t know what they are even there for.

    Of course, there is a way to solve this problem and keep the CHIP program! Soylent Green anyone?

    ~Derek Clayton

  • If I remember correctly, the American public, if we so choose, can pressure our congress and call for a referendum vote on whatever issue we choose. I think we should put the S-CHIP bill to a national vote. I believe most Americans would vote in favor of it, and no president can veto a vote (unless, of course, Cheney is your vice president…But I digress).

    If this is a success, a similar vote for national health care can also be put to a national vote. If this sounds like doing the job of the Congress, I have to agree; but we know how effective they are. However, I believe Congress would have to approve a national referendum vote, so it may never actually happen. Then again, it might.

    Act, America! Don’t just sit there and complain; call/write/email your congressmen and women, and demand a national vote on the issue of national health care for all children, not just their children!

    Jim B.
    Savannah, Georgia, USA

  • I would have to disagree with the majority of these posts. Everyone is quick to comment on things like this when they haven’t read the bill. READ THE BILL! Then you can make an educated comment. I’m not saying this bill was bad, the original bill helped children. The changes they were making in the renewal were very bad.

  • Derek – I think your beef is with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, not the federal government, because while the federal government appropriates the funds, those funds are administered by the states – the states decide how to spend the money, what the guidelines are, etc.

    See: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/LowCostHealthInsFamChild/

    Within broad Federal guidelines, each State determines the design of its program, eligibility groups, benefit packages, payment levels for coverage, and administrative and operating procedures. SCHIP provides a capped amount of funds to States on a matching basis for Federal fiscal years (FY) 1998 through 2007. Federal payments under title XXI to States are based on State expenditures under approved plans effective on or after October 1, 1997.

    Here’s the Bill – all 109 pages of it: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h976enr.txt.pdf

    The reason you haven’t heard about the provisions you mention is because they aren’t in this Bill. I suggest you contact your state legislative representative with your concerns about Pennsylvania’s plan.

  • Derek,

    I think your post is misleading, but I think your intentions are good. The S-CHIP program is designed to give the states more resources to manage their own health care needs, with regards to children. It provides finances and guidelines to that aim. It does not say, “you must rob Peter to pay Paul”; although true, some states (like PA) might feel their situation requires such an approach.

    I don’t believe the policy of, “a bit of socialized medicine here and there” is going to solve the problem. This always seems to set up a conflict of public interest with the interests of private health care providers and insurers. What we need is a public health care system similar to the Canadian model, which is a kind of private health care subsidized by taxes. It would be extremely expensive, of course; but not nearly as expensive as a completely socialized plan. Such a plan would give Americans the oportunity to purchase the same private insurance plans that exist today, but at a cost adjusted to fit their income. I could be wrong about those details; even so, this is the kind of compromise we need to shoot for, if all of us are to have adequate health care.

    One more thing… To create such a plan would mean our country would have to save some money, and not invade anyone for at least a little while. (I had to through in a little sarcasm there, I couldn’t resist).

    Jim B.
    Savannah, Georgia, USA

  • Thank you Anne,
    I was speaking more locally than most on the blog. My point is that the money always must come from somewhere. The bill deals directly with Medicaid. Please see the link below. Medicaid for seniors is coded as Medicaid part B. The CHIP program would be coded also under part B. Most seniors in Nursing homes that are Long Term residents or who have run out of Part A (immediately after hospital discharge) but still need care are in our nursing homes on a need (and not entitlement) basis. Regardless of the State guidlines for the CHIP program, under Medicaid the state must conform to federal guildlines. Also, state reimbursment is determined by the wealth of the state.

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/86xx/doc8655/hr976.pdf

    Whereas this looks good on paper for the federal government, the state is left to deal with more complicated issues concerning reimbursement because it is opening the doors to this program in an expanded nature surpasing the original (which PA coincidentally started). Our PA representatives have consistently tried to amend the CHIP program to ensure that our seniors are properly cared for because if reimbursment is not sufficient from the federal government then our budgeted money for Medicaid will be blitzed by the program.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/dtsearch.asp?cmd=getdoc&DocId=2240&Index=D%3a%5cProgram%20Files%5cdtSearch%20Developer%5cUserData%5c20070txt&HitCount=5&hits=9b+ad+be+d4+103+&hc=69&req=chip&mindx=20070txt&fc=13&ndoc=3&nPage=1

    Ultimately, I think CHIP has some promise to it if we don’t mess too much with Medicaid part B $$ and focus more on other sources of revenue.

    As a healthcare employee who is familiar with reimbursement and who works with Seniors, I must be an advocate for those who cannot speak for themselves (Medicaid part B pays for Speech Pathology for Stroke Victims), act for themselves (Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy brings independence back to our seniors), or make these judgments (take a trip to a dementia ward).

    Thank you Anne for posting the bill and going a step further in your critical thinking. It spurned a very informative research session on my part. I’ve already written my state representatives.

    This is my first time blogging (is this blogging?) and I see that there is a lot of passion out there. Let us educate each other in a constructive and critical way as to not waste it.

    ~Respectfully,
    Derek Clayton

  • Well, who was it who said that no Americans had to sacrifice anything for Bush’s war? Not quite right. Just America’s children.

  • How many of you really think health care is going to be free? The new S-Chip was expanded to include adults. Some states are awarding benefits to families at 350% of the poverty level. Many families are dropping their own health insurance for the “free” health care provided by the government… THE GOVERNMENT?!? What have they ever done effectively or efficiently? Been to a government office building lately? See the lines. What happens when health care is free is exactly what you see now in the emergency rooms as people swarm the system for free care? With un-ending demand (for something free) there MUST be rationing. Get prepared… you might just get what you ask for. Canada’s system is so good that they are coming to the U.S. to get treated. Waiting line for a hip replacement is well over a year… MRI up to 16 weeks (if THEY decide you get one that is)…

    Look at a successful socialized system… Sweden… tax rate is only 75%…

    Me?!? I’m a self-employed person that went years without insurance because I couldn’t afford it. Couldn’t afford it because of the ambulance chasers (like John Edwards) suing insurance companies for billions. Well, I now buy my own health insurance… still way too expensive but I think I’m responsible for my insurance (and retirement) not Uncle Sam (which is you by the way) … do you want to pay for my insurance?

    For those of you that are gainfully employed… take a look at your paycheck… how much are you paying? Add it up… FICA, Fed Income tax, State income tax. Now go spend what you have AFTER they take their share… paying taxes again… invest a little in a CD at the bank… pay more taxes. Where is all my money going? I am currently being robbed of about 47% of my income… sounds ridiculous? SO ARE YOU!

    Hillary care, the expanded S-CHIP, or any form of socialized medicine will ruin our health care system. PERIOD

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