Bush equates Obama foreign policy with ‘appeasement’

How are they going to play? This is how they’re going to play.

In a particularly sharp blast from halfway around the world, President Bush suggested Thursday that Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats are in favor of “appeasement” of terrorists in the same way U.S. leaders appeased Nazis in the run-up to World War II.

“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” said Bush, in what White House aides privately acknowledged was a reference to calls by Obama and other Democrats for the U.S. president to sit down for talks with leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

“We have heard this foolish delusion before,” Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. “As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

The remarks seemed to be a not-so-subtle attempt to continue to raise doubts about Obama with Jewish-Americans.

It’s cheap; it’s ugly; and it’s beneath of office of the President of the United States. I vaguely recall a time when American political figures felt honor-bound not to attack other U.S. leaders while on foreign soil. Regrettably, we’ve learned that the words “honor” and “Bush” don’t belong in the same sentence, unless separated by the phrase “doesn’t have any.”

The irony, of course, is that just yesterday, Bush’s own Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, talked openly about embracing an Obama-like approach to engaging Iran in some kind of diplomatic “discussion.” Bush, in other words, seemed to be inadvertently accusing his own administration of appeasement.

Lest there be any confusion about the target of Bush’s smear, White House aides acknowledged to CNN that the president was attacking Obama over his willingness to meet, under certain conditions, with Iranian leaders.

The president of the United States, in other words, flew halfway around the world to honor the 60th anniversary of the birth of Israel, only to deliver a cheap and foolish shot at the likely Democratic nominee. Bush sure can act like a sad, little man sometimes.

For what it’s worth, the Obama campaign didn’t waste any time hitting back.

“It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy — to pressure countries like Iran and Syria.

“George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”

I’d just add that the right-wing rhetoric on Iran, in relation to a comparison to Hitler, is more than a little insulting. As Newsweek’s Fareed Zakaria explained a few months ago: “Iran has an economy the size of Finland’s and an annual defense budget of around $4.8 billion. It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century…. Israel and every Arab country (except Syria and Iraq) are quietly or actively allied against Iran. And yet we are to believe that Tehran is about to overturn the international system and replace it with an Islamo-fascist order? What planet are we on?”

Josh Marshall added what should be obvious.

It’s almost an insult to what the world faced in the late 1930s. Germany, industrial powerhouse, with arguably the most powerful army in the world, at the forefront of technology, overawing and invading neighboring countries. Iran, minor economic power, second or third-rate military power, which may get a couple of small nuclear-weapons compared to the couple hundred high-end nuclear warheads in Israel’s arsenal (plus, a robust second strike capacity, as Fareed notes) and the many thousands we have — and our blue water navy, satellites, air force. Please. Time’s running out for us? We’re going to look back on this 50 years from now and see the non-podhoretz-loons as the Chamberlains of the day? I don’t know what to say.

What are Dems up against this year? A desperate Republican candidate, an unhinged GOP machine, and a humiliated Republican president who has no qualms about abandoning political norms.

Wow, from a demonstrable foreign policy expert like GWB this means so much.

The more Bush agrees with McCain and distances himself from Obama the better.

  • There’s a good Glenn Greenwald post at the link on my handle. Conservatives called Reagan Chamberlain for talking to Gorbachev.

    Hitler is the patron saint and mascot of George Bush’s foreign policy. Saddam was Hitler, Iran is Hitler, Osama was probably Hitler at some point before Bush stopped thinking about him. Every situation all over the world can only be understood by conjuring up Hitler, Bush’s most-frequently-mentioned statesman.

  • Absolutely unforgivably awful.

    You can always tell when Bush is about to say something false, misleading, insulting, or moronic. He starts a sentence with “Some say……” Then he follows with a ridiculous assertion that completely distorts what his opponent really says, thinks, or believes. It’s a cheap and easy way to smear, lie, and distort without being responsible for making demonstrably false assertions about real people by name.

    Why can’t he just go play golf?

  • I think Obama missed a rhetorical opportunity when he accused Bush of “tough talk and no action”, he should have said “tough talk and counterproductive action”.

    One thing you can’t accuse Bush of is taking “no action”. No sensible action, maybe. No sane action.

    Luckily when Bush says Obama is the devil, 70% of Americans view that as a good reason to vote for Obama.

  • Now would be a good time to be on the lookout for the Penatgon’s Corporate Whore Brigade, who will no doubt be fanning out into the media to tell us how we need to confront Iran before it takes over the world.

  • It’s ironic Bush would say this in Israel. It was with US encouragement that Israel began talking with Egypt, finally and bravely signing the Camp David Accords that have brought peace between the two former sworn enemies. I don’t think that point is lost to too many Israelis, though an American public with a poor sense of history might be more easily swayed. Israel has felt its own pain on a “shoot first and talk later approach.” Just look at their recent humiliation in Lebanon.

    Bush’s remarks overseas will most likely be met with the same derision his recent remarks about India’s newfound appetite and the global food shortage were:

    “Bush’s ‘ignorance on most matters is widely known and openly acknowledged by his own countrymen,’ The Asian Age argued May 5 in an editorial, but he must not be allowed to ‘get away’ with an attempt to ‘divert global attention from the truth by passing the buck on to India.'”

    More stupid words from a stupid man.

  • Goodwin’s Law is frowned upon on the Intratubes, yet this stain on humanity uses it not just overseas, but while in Israel.

    There really is a special place in hell for Bush. Maybe some day the Hague would hasten his arrival there.

  • Yes, it’s so much better to have war, endless war–even in an interdependent world like ours where real diplomacy and concerted economic action can make a difference. War is so much better (and profitable) especially when you and yours are not the ones fighting and dying. I think we should still be bombing Germany. Remember Hitler?

  • Hmm .. is it worth pointing out that many of the Iraqis who are now on our side have, in fact, previously been labeled “terrorists” and some of whom have killed American military personnel but have since been granted amnesty? Because I find that horribly insulting and proof that the Republicans do not care one whit about the boots on the ground AND that their high-falutin’ “policy” for Iraq is a bunch of hooey.

    We’re in Iraq because the Republicans wanted the oil, and they wanted to rape the country of its rightful profits (just read the CPAC convention notes about how the average Republican thinks that Iraq is going great because so many people are getting rich off of it, then compare that to FDR’s comments about how war profiteers are nothing better than traitors).

    The times, they are a changin’.

  • It’s also worth mentioning that the majority of those who appeased Hitler were Conservative.

  • bush’s decision to not negotiate with north korea led directly to the country building nukes, leaving that section of the world in much worse shape that it was when he found it.
    now that the horse is gone, they’ve turned to diplomacy to try and close the barn door.

  • Bush should be tried for War Crimes like K.O. suggested last night.

    Wonder if that would shut him up.

  • Evidently,GW is not only illiterate and ignorant about history in general,but his own family history as well.Wasn’t his grandafther,Prescott Bush involved in laundering money for the Nazis and Thyssen during WWll? In addition to long standing ties to the Saudis? I think of the late Texas’ Governor(God bless her),and the remark she made about GW-“Poor George,he was born with a silver foot in his mouth!” How true,except the tarnish is beyond polishing.

  • Robert Gates and Obama are on the correct side of this particular issue. We need a good balance between carrot and stick, as always. Bush is all stick (no pun intended; but I’m sure it’s just a little stick).

  • I think the response to Bush is:

    * Bush is an idiot and everybody knows this.
    * Bush has made our country less safe and less properous by his boneheaded foreign policy and his decision to invade Irak
    * Bush’s bungling has stretched the Army toward the breaking point and giving up golf ain’t gonna fix this.
    * It will take many years to clean up the mess Bush made so who cares what advice this nitwit is offering now. It’d either be wrong or catestrophically wrong.

    Ya hard to do and offer hope and unity at the same time.

  • Nothing but desperate talk from the desperate ‘leedur’ of a party that is sinking under the weight of it’s own stench.

    Let’s hope that Obama asks mr. bu$$h to talk about how his family TRULY appeased an enemy, and profited off of the death and torture of millions. Wait, wait, why what do you know?…it’s the very enemy that bu$$h is conjuring up as an image to attack Obama with…,it’s the one and only Adolf Hitler!

    ********************************
    George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

    His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

    gwb – the quintessential hypocrite, the quintessential scumbag.

  • Bush comes bearing gifts of chocolate covered poison. Like they say: “A hypocrite pats you on the back in front of your face, and slaps you in the face behind your back.”

    The following is from Jake Tapper’s article God is their copilot.

    Bush says Jews will go to hell

    Turning to God, however, has also created its own problems, none more controversial for Bush than in 1993 after he told a Jewish reporter for the Austin American-Statesman that, according to his faith, nonbelievers in Christ, including Jews, go to hell. His statements were picked up by the Jewish press, and when he first ran for Texas governor in 1994, were revived by his opponent, then-Gov. Ann Richards, in ads her campaign took out in Jewish newspapers.

    “Bush was giving the Orthodox biblical answer,” says Marvin Olasky, a senior fellow of the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty, a born-again Christian and advisor to Bush on compassionate conservatism. “On the face of it, you have to believe in Christ to go to heaven; Jews don’t believe in Christ; therefore, Jews don’t go to heaven. So of course there was an uproar.”

    The story lay dormant until 1998 when, right before Bush left for a trip to Israel, the same Austin American-Statesman reporter asked Bush what he would say to the Israelis upon arrival. “Go to hell,” Bush joked.

    After that uproar, Bush apologized by sending an artfully phrased letter to Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith. Bush wrote that he was “troubled that some people were hurt … I regret the concern caused by my statement and reassure you and the Jewish community that you have my deepest respect.” Foxman accepted Bush’s apology, now saying “his 1993 statement is now behind us.”

    Bush also held a news conference. “My faith tells me that acceptance of Jesus Christ as my savior is my salvation, and I believe I made it clear that it is not the governor’s role to decide who goes to heaven,” he said at the time. “I believe God decides who goes to heaven, not George W. Bush.”

    Bush has since adopted this last line as his catchall for whenever he is asked whether Jews — like his press secretary Ari Fleischer, or foreign policy advisors Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz or domestic policy advisor Steven Goldsmith — lack the credentials to get in to heaven.

    Some call it a cop-out. “This won’t do, I’m afraid,” Slate’s Michael Kinsley wrote. “No one is asking Bush to ‘decide’ or ‘rule on’ who gets into heaven … The issue is whether God has an admissions policy that excludes Jews and whether George W. has an opinion about what that policy might be. Surely he does. … (I)f Bush really believes that accepting Jesus is the only path to salvation, he is pulling a pretty dirty trick on Jews by telling them otherwise. Putting votes before souls: Talk about political expediency!”

    Full article here

  • rennell @ #17…
    i believe the wonderful ann richards actually said that about w’s father, but still — a classic put-down of a classic fuck-up.

    “It’s cheap; it’s ugly; and it’s beneath of office of the President of the United States.”
    of course it is. george w. bush is beneath the office of POTUS!

  • DANA PERINO’S ACTUAL RESPONSE – “It is not,” press secretary Dana Perino told reporters in Israel. “I would think that all of you who cover these issues and have for a long time have known that there are many who have suggested these types of negotiations with people that the president, President Bush, thinks that we should not talk to. I understand when you’re running for office you sometimes think the world revolves around you. That is not always true. And it is not true in this case.””

    So I don’t see your statement in the actual quote “Lest there be any confusion about the target of Bush’s smear, White House aides acknowledged to CNN that the president was attacking Obama over his willingness to meet, under certain conditions, with Iranian leaders.”

    So lying is how you are gonna play? Got it.

  • Bush would never appease terrorists. That fact that Osama bin Laden has gotten the top three things on his wish list courtesy of the Bush administration, and is still making videos, is purely a coincidence…

  • I understand when you’re running for office you sometimes think the world revolves around you.

    Aw, is the sociopathic wittle dwy dwunk not getting enough attention these days? Are too many people looking at and listening to the howwible Negwo who’s moving into your White House?

    There, there, George. We still hate you with a passion. We’ve just moved on to bigger and better topics, so we don’t think about you very much — except when we’re tying you to McCain with an anchor.

  • Lest there be any confusion about the target of Bush’s smear, White House aides acknowledged to CNN that the president was attacking Obama over his willingness to meet, under certain conditions, with Iranian leaders. – CB

    I remember distinctly at the youtube debate Obama stated he would be willing to meet with Iranian leaders with NO preconditions.. was that a hallucination.. second hand smoke from the hope bong?

    Obama is a weak GE candidate, and his inexperience and inability to bring white working class voters into his tent will be his undoing.

  • The enemies of all humanity are the war-profiteers and the iron-mongers of the international weapons industry.

    George Bush’s foreign policy appeases these people, so I suggest that it is George Bush’s foreign policy that constitutes “appeasement.”

    Why does George Bush hate all humanity?

  • So lying is how you are gonna play? Got it.

    Here’s a radical thought — perhaps Dana Perino is not the only “Bush aide” who works in the White House, and perhaps that statement you quoted was not the only sentiment offered on the president’s statement.

    CNN is, in fact, saying Bush aides confirmed to them he was talking about Obama.

    Nice to see mouth-breathing stupid is how you’re going to play it.

  • Bushies like to point out incendiary remarks that Ahmadinejad said about Israel. So now he goes over to Israel and basically repeats his “bring ’em on” nonsense. Condi needs to get out her black stilettos and whip and engage in some enhanced interrogation of her boss.

  • Wow…bush makes a stump speech in a foriegn country…double wow. Did anyone watch it? Was there loud or polite applause?????

  • Appeasement of the Enemy is the modus operandi of the Democratic Party, with few exceptions, since Jimmy “The Mullah” Carter. This is why a majority of Americans “don’t trust” the Democratic Party when it comes to national security.

  • Appeasement of the Enemy is the modus operandi of the Democratic Party, with few exceptions, since Jimmy “The Mullah” Carter.

    Examples being…..?

    And what would selling weapons to Iranians be, an example of tough foreign policy?

  • Steve [32] The enemies of all humanity are the war-profiteers and the iron-mongers of the international weapons industry.

    You know, that’s a really, really good point. When you look at who benefits/profits from eschewing diplomacy, it sure as hell ain’t humanity. Appeasement indeed!

  • I wonder if anyone in the media will have the courage to do an expose of where the Bush family fortune came from. Until 1942 they were happily supporting the Nazis, in fact the great grandfather supplied arms to the Nazis during ww1, I think Georgie has opened a Pandora’s box. I lived as a child in WW2 England and feel like the bombs my family sheltered from were compliments of George.’s family..

  • 2Manchu: Examples being…..?

    Obama right now. Bill Clinton for his eight years in Office. Carter since he was first elected President until right now.

  • Bush is a fool, but Obama can take care of fools.

    Somewhat related, I think the Republican warmongers in the administration must be shaking with fear about the upcoming election. They know they’re going to lose their influence and power, and then where will they be? I hope to hell Obama throws every one of them out the back door.

    Have there been any rumors about who he might sponsor for head of the DOD, or anyone who might be good to head up the Pentagon? Will he also tackle diplomatic assignments? UN & World Bank representatives?

  • By “examples”, I mean “actual events”.

    Well, what about when Carter stopped the grain embargo we had against the Soviets, and when he traded missiles to Iran, and when he ran from Beirut after they attacked us there?

    Oh, wait, that was Reagan.

  • Fuhrer Bush is nothing more than the STENCH THAT EMANATES OUT OF THE ASSHOLE OF LUCIFER HIMSELF …… A SHIT STAIN IN THE BACK OF LUCIFER’S PANTIES …

  • Factual question: what sort of diplomatic contact did the United States have with the Axis powers during the period of hostilities? More than none?

  • 2Manchu: By “examples”, I mean “actual events”.

    Carter’s list is too long to list on this webpage, but they have been obvious for decades, and even recently with his visit with Hamas.

    Clinton feared our Enemies, catered to or tried to ignore them…heck, he rolled out the Red Carpet for Arafat so often, that he had to replace it with a new one…he was scared to death of Saddam, so scared that Saddam basically treated him like a ‘Prison Punk’…he took the 1993 WTC attack (an Act of War), and treated it as a common criminal act meant for the courts…he refused to take Osama into custody several times, even though the Sudan offered him freely…etcetera etcetera etcetera.

    Obama has said he will meet with the leaders of “so-called rogue states” , “without preconditions”, in the first year of his presidency…i.e. “with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.”

  • “Carter’s list is too long to list on this webpage, but they have been obvious for decades”

    Humor me.

    “Clinton feared our Enemies, catered to or tried to ignore them…heck, he rolled out the Red Carpet for Arafat so often, that he had to replace it with a new one”

    I didn’t realize Arafat was an enemy of the United States.

    “..he was scared to death of Saddam, so scared that Saddam basically treated him like a ‘Prison Punk’”

    By maintaining the post-Gulf War no-fly-zone over Iraq, then launching attacks against suspected WMD sites? Who was afraid of who?

    “..he took the 1993 WTC attack (an Act of War), and treated it as a common criminal act meant for the courts..”

    Resulting in, the trial and conviction of those responsible. Yeah, that really backfired.

    “..he refused to take Osama into custody several times, even though the Sudan offered him freely”

    Another bullshit lie. Sudan said it might be willing to turn over bin Laden in 1996, to another country, two being either Egypt or Saudi Arabia.
    Neither country was willing to comply.

    “Obama has said he will meet with the leaders of “so-called rogue states” , “without preconditions”, in the first year of his presidency…i.e. “with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.””

    How is this different than Eisenhower meeting Khruschev, or Nixon meeting both Mao and Brezhnev, or Reagan meeting with Gorbachev?

  • A sad little man? Sometimes? This would be sad if it were personal psychodrama, but this little man has been allowed to play — make no mistake, he sees it as a game — with enormous power and his actions have led directly to many thousands of deaths here and abroad, so-called “pre-emptive” war which is really unjustifiable lethal national aggression, the loss of essential rights, torture, fiscal bankruptcy, a weakened military, and ruined diplomatic reputation. We are beset at home by still more essentials not preserved or protected (healthcare, education, jobs, mortgages, infrastructure, gas prices, climate change — even whole cities have been left in ruins). And all this he’s done in the name of America, dragging us down in the mud with him. Why we did not impeach probably has a political answer, at least before 2006. But we should have, for our own honor.

  • Poject much Karmi – it appears to me that YOU are ignoring the facts.
    Reagan sold arms to the Iranians at the same time that his admin was calling them terrorists.
    Bush IGNORED the inetelligence community (“Youve coverd your ass..” “Bin Laden determined to Strike America” and Clinton and Gore’s warnings. He LET 9/11 happen, you stupid shit!!!
    North Korea actuall got the Bomb because Bush wanted to play the tough guy.
    This is the short list, and all that is on the hands of ignorant yahoos like you.

    Oh, yeah, you’ve got a lot of credibility.

  • Did someone actually crawl out from under a rock and squeak SpewsMaxx—the automated barf machine of fanatical neoconservatism’s unhinged uber-poodles—as “factual?” Please—those squeamish smut-mongers have been peddling adulterated audiotapes for years now. Posting a link does not make them valid, Karmi—it only makes you out to be a hilarious fool with his head on the business end of a pike.

  • Bush “I understand when you’re IN office you sometimes think the world revolves around you.” fixed.

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