Bush’s allies welcome a debate on Iraq, right?

Shortly before the United States invaded Iraq, Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) noticed something troubling about the congressional debate on this critical, world-changing issue: there wasn’t one. In a stirring speech from the Senate floor, Byrd asked, “Why is this chamber empty? Why are these halls silent?”

What’s worse, the halls haven’t grown much noisier since. Congress may be all about debate and deliberation, but when it comes to the war in Iraq, the serious discussions about the future simply haven’t happened. The Republican majority prefers to a) sidestep the political nightmare associated with an unpopular war; and b) embrace the war only to accuse Dems of being soft on terror.

Roll Call reports today, however, that there’s growing bi-partisan sentiment in the House for a real debate.

A bipartisan group of lawmakers began a new effort last week to attract support for the idea of holding a lengthy House floor debate on Iraq policy.

On Wednesday, Republican Reps. Walter Jones Jr. (N.C.), Ron Paul (Texas) and Wayne Gilchrest (Md.) joined Democratic Reps. Neil Abercrombie (Hawaii), Ike Skelton (Mo.) and Marty Meehan (Mass.) in co-signing a “Dear Colleague” letter calling for “an open and honest debate on the future of U.S. policy in Iraq.”

The six signatories encouraged their colleagues to sign a discharge petition for H.Res. 543, a rule that would allow floor consideration of a resolution introduced by Abercrombie in 2005 requiring President Bush “to develop and implement a plan for the withdrawal” of American troops from Iraq.

Supporters of the discharge petition argue that the House has not had an adequate recent debate on Iraq, even as casualties there have escalated and President Bush has declined to specify when U.S. troops will pull out.

The House Republicans who now welcome a debate on the future of the war are some of the same GOP lawmakers who no longer want anything to do with Bush’s policy. This isn’t a coincidence — these guys see it as a way to put some distance between themselves and the administration on the war.

It also sets up an interesting challenge for the Republican leadership — are they afraid of a national security debate with Dems in an election year? So far, the answer is yes.

Asked about the bi-partisan support for the debate resolution, Speaker Hastert’s office said the House has already debated the issue — once in 2003 and again last year, when Hastert and DeLay quickly organized a vote on a trumped-up resolution on immediate withdrawal, which was a poorly-laid trap for John Murtha.

To his enormous credit, Walter Jones showed little patience for the nonsense from his Speaker’s office.

…Jones, one of the House’s few outspoken GOP critics of the war, strongly disagreed with the idea that the chamber has given the Iraq issue enough debate time and argued that November’s debate was designed solely to humiliate Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.).

“It was not an honest debate on the issue,” Jones said, calling the short consideration of the bill an effort to “embarrass a patriot.”

“I’m frustrated with my own party, I’ll be honest with you,” Jones added, saying that he respects Hastert but that he believes his own leadership is out of touch on the Iraq issue.

“I don’t know what polls the Republican leadership’s looking at, but the ones I’ve seen aren’t very encouraging,” he said.

It’s an interesting, and revealing, perspective. Jones is acknowledging that the war is a disaster, that his GOP leadership is afraid of a public debate that would highlight the disaster, and that he’s one of many Republicans who knows that their careers are on the line over this.

The date to watch in April 5, when Republicans Jones, Paul, and Gilchrest will go to the floor with three House Dems to call for a vote on the debate resolution. If it passes, H. Res. 543 would allow up to 17 hours of debate on whether the House believes Bush should “develop and implement a plan for the withdrawal” of the troops. Stay tuned.

Rep. Jones has come a long way from his Freedom Fries days. Good for him.

  • If we want to predict whether this goes anywhere, CB, how much money have these GOP co-sponsors taken from Messers Bush & Cheney? If they’ve taken anything at all, then we know all this is bogus and that it ultimately won’t go anywhere (except to give these Republicans the ability to say to their constituents that they weren’t in lock-step with the Prez).

  • I think basically the Republicanites do not want to be put on the record on a current position on the war. They can be two-faced as they like right now, saying things aren’t good but we have to stay the course or whatever will work with the current audiance. A vote, however, would pin them down to a real position at a time when there are only two tenable positions, get out or strengthen our forces to do the job right.

  • You have to wonder – how long, given the current direction of the conditions in Iraq, can they sit and stall? My guess is that they will try to drag it out as long as possible. Up until now, it’s been quite easy. However, it’s possible we are reaching a tipping point in both public acceptance of “stay the course” which with each passing day is being seen more clearly as “staying on the wrong course”, and also of the perception in Congress that this public view of the world is going to bite them in the elections. So, it would appear they now have to avoid a full blown debate which would reveal ugly truths, and somehow manage to give the perception that they are moving on the issue. It’s my guess that you will see a lot of talk, and signs of movement, but really still just about no substantive moves for quite some time, which means the apr 5 date will not happen as expected above. They are probably still trying to figure out a way to make it seem like they were not negligent in backing this ill-advised Iraq adventure, but so far theyve not agreed on a method. Republican nails which stick out of line, such as Jones, Paul and Gilchrest, will be forceably beaten back down, perhaps by the Hammer himself. Good thing he cant carry a gun anymore.

  • It just occurred to me that what is the point of even having a discussion. The President has declared Congress irrelevant anyway. The only discussion that needs to be held now is how many Marshals to send to the White House to arrest the entire administration for undertaking a coup against the Constitution.

  • Iraqi War = OIL

    It has always been about securing a position in the middle east to control the oil. Democrats know this as well as Republicans, and that is why there was no debate on it. To maintain the “non negotiable” lifestyle of the US, live in suburbia, drive big honking gas guzzlers takes oil and lots of it. Does anyone really think that all the permanent fortress like bases being built at the cost of millions of dollars are there for the Iraqi forces (after we leave)? Continue to try and install a puppet dictator (oops, Chalibi didn’t work out), the oil flows (in oil dollars, not euros) and the US citizens are non the wiser and don’t want to be.

  • Right Karen, and this is the one reason that even if any debate ever takes place, it will be irrelevant. While it was historically acknowledged by the very same people that the reason we supported the Shah, backed both sides in the Iran/Iraq war, and have had any real interest in that area, was that oil supplies could not be compromised, that historical justification was denied emphatically over and over, and then just disappeared from discussion altogether, obscured by fear about wmds, terrorism, etc. The administration has totally exploited 9/11 to avoid the true justification for the war. Why noone wants to talk about this still is baffling. There is ample evidence that this was, is and always will be the reason we keep allowing ourselves to get tangled up there. Unfortunately this time the results were much more of a disaster for our country and the world in general. This was truly the worst policy response to terror, as well as the worst way to stabilize the region – a true f-u of major proportions. No wonder noone wants to talk about it. Why dont people just dredge up more of cheney’s old quotes and throw them in his face when he BSs about why we are there. This has gotten to the point of absurdity.

  • I just called my congressman’s office to find out his position, and let them know I thought he should get behind this resolution. I call Senator Graham all the time, but I’d never called Inglis (R) before. He’s in a very safe seat, so I’ve figured it doesn’t matter if a liberal constituent disagrees with him, but having a debate on how to finish this war is a reasonable request of all who were elected our leaders. The polls indicate independents and rebublicans agree that the war is not going well. Call your congressperson and ask them for leadership. We have to have a plan to get out of Iraq.

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