Bush’s fundamental confusion about Iraq

For all the jokes and mockery directed at the president for his apparent confusion about, well, pretty much every issue, subject, and controversy anyone can think of, it’s sometimes hard to get over the fact that when it comes to the war in Iraq, Bush seems unusually fond of arguments that don’t make a lick of sense.

President Bush on Friday branded the recent eruption of violence across Iraq as a “defining moment in the history of a free Iraq” and insisted it was crucial to quash criminal elements eager to disrupt the new government. […]

The president patiently explained that the fighting was a defining moment because the Iraqi government had taken the lead.

He recalled asking Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki whether he’d be “willing to confront criminal elements, whether they be Shia or Sunni?”

“Would he, in representing people who want to live in peace, be willing to use force necessary to bring to justice those who, you know, take advantage of a vacuum, or those who murder the innocent?” Bush asked.

“His answer was, ‘Yes sir, I will,”’ the president recalled. “And I said, ‘We’ll have our support, if that’s the case, if you believe in even-handed justice.”

Considering these remarks, Kevin poses the quintessential question of Bush’s presidency: “Which is worse, (a) that Bush actually believes this or (b) that he knows better but thinks the rest of us will buy this nonsense? Is there another person on the planet who would be either delusional enough or ballsy enough to describe Maliki’s actions in Basra as ‘evenhanded’?”

Kevin goes with the prior, and I’m very much inclined to agree. I’ve never seen any meaningful evidence that the president actually knows what’s going on, here or anywhere else, and is clever enough to try and fool Americans who have a clue.

And in case there’s any confusion about the substance of the president’s remarks, Fred Kaplan helped explain events in Iraq as they are, not as Bush would like to perceive them.

The fighting in Basra, which has spread to parts of Baghdad, is not a clash between good and evil or between a legitimate government and an outlaw insurgency. Rather, as Anthony Cordesman, military analyst for the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, writes, it is “a power struggle” between rival “Shiite party mafias” for control of the oil-rich south and other Shiite sections of the country.

Both sides in this struggle are essentially militias. Both sides have ties to Iran. And as for protecting “the Iraqi people,” the side backed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki (and by U.S. air power) has, ironically, less support—at least in many Shiite areas, including Basra—than the side that he (and we) are attacking.

In other words, as with most things about Iraq, it’s a more complex case than Bush makes it out to be.

The two Shiite parties—the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq and Muqtada Sadr’s Mahdi army—have been bitter rivals since the early days of post-Saddam Iraq. And Maliki, from the beginning of his rule, has had delicate relations with both.

Sadr, who may be Iraq’s most popular Shiite militant and who controls several seats in parliament, gave Maliki the crucial backing he needed to become prime minister. However, largely under U.S. pressure, Maliki has since backed away from Sadr, who has always fiercely opposed the occupation and whose militiamen have killed many American soldiers (until last year, when he declared a cease-fire).

Maliki has since struck a close alliance with ISCI, which has its own militia, the Badr Organization, and whose members also hold much sway within Iraq’s official security forces (though more with the police than with the national army). This alliance has the blessing of U.S. officials, even though ISCI—which was originally called the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq—has much deeper ties with Iran than Sadr does. (ISCI’s leaders went into exile in Iran during the decades of Saddam’s reign, while Sadr and his family stayed in Iraq—one reason for his popular support. As Ray Takeyh of the Council on Foreign Relations has noted, SICRI was created by Iran, and the Badr brigades were trained and supplied by Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.)

Sadr’s Mahdi army and ISCI’s Badr Organization came to blows last August in the holy city of Karbala. This fighting—and his growing inability to control criminal elements within the Mahdi army—spurred Sadr to order a six-month moratorium on violence, which he renewed last month, against the wishes of some of his followers. (This moratorium is a major reason for the decline in casualties in Iraq, perhaps as significant as the U.S. troop surge and the Sunni Awakening.)

The fighting this week in Basra may be a prelude to the moratorium’s collapse and, with it, the resumption of wide-scale sectarian violence—Shiite vs. Sunni and Shiite vs. Shiite. […]

It’s not a case of good vs. evil. It’s just another crevice in the widening earthquake called Iraq.

Given what we know of the president’s worldview, he likes to see some guys in white hats, and some in black hats. It just makes things easier for him.

The notion that Maliki might want to use the Iraqi Army to help protect his party’s interest in upcoming provincial elections never seemed to occur to him. Instead, it’s a “defining moment in the history of a free Iraq” — because doesn’t that sound cooler than “a struggle for power and resources between warlords”?

They went in with every intention of staying there until there was no oil left for us or anybody else. They’ve made it about everything except going in for oil and staying for the duration. What is supposed to come out of Shruby’s yap that makes any sense? What could possibly come out of Shruby’s yap that would make any sense? He lives, breathes and swims in a sea of lies. Do we really want any of the concentrated, high test stupidity that he projects to start sounding rational?

  • What I don’t get is why are we forced to stay in Iraq until Bush is gone? Everyone accepts this now as just the way it is. Aren’t there enough people in Congress who are totally sick of the death and lies by now to actually do something about it and stop the funding? It’s not like on Jan. 20 the troops will magically come home. Something has to be done now–or else Sadr’s followers and their enemies with a little help from Maliki will do it for us. And I don’t think that’s what we would call “victory”.

  • You know what’s the scariest part about Bush’s stupid statements regarding all the “success” we’re having in Iraq…there are thousands of Americans out there who believe him!! Case in point: my uncle (God Bless him) from NC stated to me the other day “I hope a Democrat don’t make it into office come Novemember, or else all those boys who died in Iraq will have died for nothing.” You know what uncle, they’ll have died for nothing already! It’s never been about freedom and ridding the world of evil; It’s always been about the oil and nothing else. Saddam could have never hurt a fly and was never a threat to anyone but himself and a few political opponents. In closing, I’m glad there’s no oil (or at least Iraqi quantities of oil) in North Korea, China, Myannmar, Darfur, and wherever else there’s a “bad” leader or government. (then we’d have “freedom fighters” all over this planet)

  • I actually doubt if Bush believes all the crap he babbles. Just like McCain, he has demonstrated time and again the ability to say ANYTHING to get what they want.

    What has really astonished me is his apparent willingness to lie to the American people from the Office of the President. All signs are McCain will do the same since he’s doing it now as a Senator.

  • Dick Cheney keeps Bush on a need-to-know basis on Iraq so he doesn’t screw things up when he talks to the public anymore than he already does. It’s obvious Dick doesn’t think Bush needs to know very much and Bush’s innate intellectual incuriosity makes him not want to know anything more. Remember those remarks about how no one liked to give Bush bad news? Well they haven’t for the last five years about Iraq.

  • First, it’s a fool’s errand to try to figure out whether Bush is a liar or a fool, since he is both, and he will always say what he thinks is most expedient.

    Second. The ISCI (formerly known as SCIRI or Badr Brigade) is led by Abdul Aziz al Hakim. He met with Bush in DC in Dec 2006, much to the disappointment of King Abdullah of Jordan, who warned of a “Shia crescent” across the middle east. It’s probably a good guess that Hakim is not only an ally of Maliki, but of Bush &co. as well. Though, next week ISCI will be conflated with Al Qaeda again, so as to not confuse people.

  • President Bush on Friday branded the recent eruption of violence across Iraq as a “defining moment in the history of a free Iraq” and insisted it was crucial to quash criminal elements eager to disrupt the new government. […]

    Why… “Quashing criminal elements” is *’zacly* what the Chinese army and police was doing in Lhasa just recently. No wonder Our Fearless Leader in a jump suit (or is it: a jumped-up suit in a leadership position?) has been so luke-warm about taking a position on the situation there… It is certainly “crucial” that nothing should disrupt the Olympics in Beijing; he’s sooo looking forward to attending…

  • what makes you think he’s trying to fool anyone ?? bush has lied to the american people ever since he began campaigning for the presidency .. and he’s never been called on it ..any of it .. or forced to pay any kind of price .. political or otherwise ..

    and he’s in office until jan 20th 2009 at 12:01 pm regardless .. so i’m sure he sees no consequence to just making the bullshit pile a little higher .. what ya gonna do about it .. write a blog ??

    if directly confronted i’m sure he’d turn to dick cheney .. and dick would look at ya nad say .. “so?”

  • from swimming freestyle:
    “Iraq is a sovereign state, or so we claim. Why would U.S. forces assist the sovereign Iraqi government and Iraqi Army in their attempts to squash internal, anti-government insurgents?

    We don’t have a horse in this race. Wouldn’t it be in our national interest to allow Iraq to settle it’s own internal power struggles.

    from http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com

  • Ha, Ha, Ha!!!!! Oh, my ribs!!! My favourite part was when he said, “Any government that presumes to represent the majority of people must confront criminal elements or people who think they can live outside the law”, and he DIDN’T EVEN BURST INTO FLAMES!!! I expected his tongue to shoot from his mouth, trailing sparks, or for him to be turned into a pillar of salt, something biblical like that, but no luck. Apparently the world’s biggest lawbreaker can say out loud, without a hint of irony, that those who break the law must be held to account, and not even glance over his shoulder to see if people are breaking in to do just that.

    Weak. Just, I don’t know, weak.

  • We put [Bush] on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years – you know, I’m not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don’t think you’re adding that much value to the board. You don’t know that much about the company. (David Rubinstein on his experience with G.W.B. as a board member.)


    HOW BUSH GOT BOUNCED
    FROM CARLYLE BOARD

  • This summer at the Olympics will we be seeing photos of Bush with the Chinese leaders, the Occupier of Iraq making nice with the Occupiers of Tibet? That’ll be a charming message to the rest of the world.

  • “The president patiently explained…”

    Because the president sees us scratching our heads when he’s talking and he assumes it’s because we’re too dumb to understand him.

  • I wonder what this is doing for McCain’s campaign plans aligning himself so closely to Bagdad Bush?

  • It’s not about whether or not Bush actually believes any of this. He doesn’t. He just knows that there isn’t a darned thing that anyone can do about it.

    He’ll hold the troops hostage in Iraq long enough to get out of office and pass the mess onto the next president.

    In the meantime, he’ll get as much of his new Iraq spin BS recorded in the media record of his presidency as he can, so in the future he can point back to it and say he said this or he said that, and if the written/visual record contradicts him, he’ll just ignore it and spin, spin, spin.

    He’s a criminal who knows nobody will ever make him pay for what he’s done, so he’s just having fun spinning until he leaves office. Since it’s all BS, it doesn’t have to make sense.

    It’s like Karl Rove. The minute he left Bush’s administration, he said that it was congress who was pushing to invade Iraq and the president just went along with it. They’re all liars.

  • It really does not matter what Bush says as long as the end result is chaos in Iraq and a permanent US presence. No matter what is said and what is actually happening we keep pumping up the number of US troops and building permanent bases and a really large embassy. Bush wants us to stay and he has succeeded beyond everyone’s worst nightmares. It is not that Bush say incredibly stupid things, it is that congress keep acting on them.

  • “His answer was, ‘Yes sir, I will,”’ the president recalled. “And I said, ‘We’ll have our support, if that’s the case, if you believe in even-handed justice.”

    This reminds me of a passage in Reagan’s memoir, in which he depicts himself lecturing Gorbachev on how things are gonna be, and Gorbachev is portrayed as, more or less, meekly nodding like a penitent middle schooler in the principal’s office. This is the voice of the man who makes his oldest friends call him “Mr President” in private.

    The second part is good too, “We’ll have our support”. He doesn’t know who we/you/they are. There’s good guys and bad guys, and Jesus is on Bush’s side. As for the Scooter Commuter advocating even handed justice… the punchlines write themselves with this sad hump.

  • I love baseball dearly, and i know that if W. had been given the commissioners position (his fondest dream) that he probably would have ruined baseball. But dammit, i’d happily give up baseball to have a normal country.

  • With provincial elections scheduled for October the al Maliki government wants to crush any political party that has arisen since the last election.

    And BGII is happy to help them.

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