Bush’s other war

Maybe I’ve let my subscription lapse on Far-Right Talking Points Weekly, but at what point did conservatives get together and decide that the war in Afghanistan is going well?

Two months ago, Ann Coulter told Fox News, “Things are going swimmingly in [tag]Afghanistan[/tag].” This week, Bill [tag]O’Reilly[/tag] went even further, saying that the notion that conditions in Afghanistan are getting worse is a “myth.”

[Monday] on Fox News, host Bill O’Reilly tried to argue that Afghanistan has been “successful” and that “there’s no danger at all of the Taliban reclaiming that country.” At the worst, he said, the Taliban will be “annoying.” When his guest, Harvard University professor Sarah Sewall, pointed out that people on the ground disagree, O’Reilly dismissed her, stating, “I talked to everybody.”

Supreme NATO commander Gen. James Jones recently stated that Afghanistan is close to becoming a “narco state,” whose $3 billion dollars in annual drug profits are financing the Taliban. Council on Foreign Relations Afghanistan expert Dr. Barnett Rubin said that Afghanistan Afghanistan is at a “tipping point” and that the Afghan people believe “trends are going in the Taliban’s favor.” Gen. David Richards, a British officer who commands NATO’s 32,000 troops, warned that unless coalition forces begin stepping up reconstruction efforts, 70 percent of the country could decide to back the Taliban. Doesn’t sound like O’Reilly talked to everybody.

I realize the war in Iraq has become an embarrassing tragedy for Republicans and their allies, but have we reached a point in which the right also has to politically prop up two wars that are going in the wrong direction?

Apparently so.

Right-wing talking points notwithstanding, Afghanistan’s deterioration is anything but a “myth.” Indeed, O’Reilly’s timing is unusually bad given the news out of the country.

The conflict in Iraq is drawing fewer foreign fighters as Muslim extremists aspiring to battle the West turn their attention back to the symbolically important and increasingly violent turf of Afghanistan, European and U.S. anti-terrorism officials say.

The shift of militants to Afghanistan this year suggests that Al Qaeda and its allies, armed with new tactics honed in Iraq, are coming full circle five years after U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban mullahs.

And this.

Afghanistan’s opium harvest this year has reached the highest levels ever recorded, showing an increase of almost 50 percent from last year, the executive director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Antonio Maria Costa, said Saturday in Kabul.

He described the figures as “alarming” and “very bad news” for the Afghan government and international donors who have poured millions of dollars into programs to reduce the poppy crop since 2001.

He said the increase in cultivation was significantly fueled by the resurgence of Taliban rebels in the south, the country’s prime opium growing region. As the insurgents have stepped up attacks, they have also encouraged and profited from the drug trade, promising protection to growers if they expanded their opium operations.

“This year’s harvest will be around 6,100 metric tons of opium — a staggering 92 percent of total world supply. It exceeds global consumption by 30 percent,” Mr. Costa said at a news briefing.

And this.

U.S. military officials tell ABC News cross-border attacks by the Taliban are up “300 percent” since President Musharraf declared a “truce” with tribal leaders in the troubled Northern Waziristan region that borders Afghanistan.

Going “swimmingly”? Taliban resurgence is a “myth”? I suppose the real question at this point is why anyone could possibly find right-wing talking heads credible.

Wow, Opium production will be 30% over the worlds demand? Guess the CIA will start peddling it to fund some ‘black ops’

  • “…why anyone could possibly find right-wing talking heads credible.”
    Credible isn’t the target they are aiming for, believable is their aim.
    How many times have we of the Reality Based community lamented the acceptance of mis-characterizations and outright lies by the other side?
    In O’Reilly’s world, if a Right Winger repeats it often enough, it becomes a belief, a part of conventional wisdom. This Afganistan lie is just part of the playbook for these people. It saddens me that so many lives are affected by power driven fantasies.

  • CB/SB I don’t know that this is a talking point as much as a manifestation of their pathologies. Remember the GOP and their shills only pay attention to the news/facts that they want to (i.e. that support their position) and ignore news/facts that don’t. Of course since they live on the other side of the Looking Glass where up is down, and good is bad, etc, they are going to see the situation in Afghanistan as good even when it is not.

  • This goes right along with what the GOP has been doing since 1994 — they repeat a false point over and over again. It then leaks into the corporate media. “Journalists” won’t call them on it, so those who don’t pay much attention to what’s going on buy into it.

    By the time anyone on the left points out the falsehood, the media has either moved on to the next hot topic (more than likely a missing rich white girl or LA car chase), completely ignores those who point out why it’s wrong, or the lie has turned into such a mountain of misinformation that it becomes almost impossible to knock down.

    You gotta admit, it really is a brilliant way to get propoganda out there. It’s despicable and morally reprehensible, but brilliant.

  • I guess since the media (for the most part) is just a conduit for lies (otherwise known as “advertising”) they really don’t see the point in knocking down falsehoods that the right wing noise machine cranks out. After all, their bread and butter is a populace that believes, not one that thinks.

    I always find it amazing the kinds of products that are sold on RW radio, it’s a bunch of crap for the most part, and they really need a stupid audience to pawn it off. So the race to the bottom is not an accident, it’s a business plan.

    People who think Bill O’Lielly is telling the truth are obviously easy marks, it would be bad business to tell them he’s full of shit.

  • Or is it just another cynical attempt to draw attention from the heavily media covered Bloodbath in Baghdad and toward the much less covered and less understood Carnage around Kabul. Iraq is no longer spinable, which proves to be a problem at this critical moment in the election cycle, while due to the lack of focus on Afghanistan that battle is still very spinable, at least to the ignorant masses, so close to November 7.

  • By “going well” they mean “not currently producing news-flow that is damaging to the political standing of the Bush administration.”

  • A small aside–interesting to compare O’Reilly’s comment that the Taliban will be, at worst, “annoying” with the right’s thunderous condemnation, and willful misinterpretation, of Kerry’s statement that terrorism could be supressed until it was only a nuisance.

  • People percieve them as credible because we keep talking about them as if what they have to say IS credible. Look..these guys are clowns and really on the same level as the Daily Show; fake news, only differemce is that they take themselves (or percieve to take themselves) exponentially more seriously. Media Matters doesn’t help either. You never see them complaining about what is said on The Daily Show yet go there and it’s full of Bill O’Riellies, Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters. What they are doing in reality is giving legitimacy to the hyperbole these clowns spew. You know these jerks are the first to admit that what they say is hyperbole as soon as something they say blows up in their face. “Oh I’m just prone to hyperbole” I hear a lot.

  • How long before the right-wingers start blaming NATO for blowing America’s glorious victory in Afghanistan? There are French “surrender monkey” troops serving there, and, if that wasn’t bad enough, French-Canadian troops as well.

  • I think I’d just tell the Pashtus that they can have their stupid landlocked country and if they get arrested for flying a kite or playing music by the Taliban they let be in charge, it’s their own damn fault.

    Afghanistan is another of those stupid made up countries that no one really needs in the first place.

  • Freedom flowers in Afghanistan – koreyel #5

    Poppies, poppies! – Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz.

    😉

    I love Shill O’Really’s assertion that he talked to “everyone.” I guess he’s getting the voices in his head confused with real people again.

    Not that I advocate violence or anything, but I have to wonder if these wanks give any thought to what will happen when (if) the soldiers come home. Not that I advocate violence or anything, but if I heard this bastard telling a bunch of lies about the situation on the ground, my reasoning would run as follows: Constituents might press their representatives for more armor/troops/equipment, etc if schmucks like this weren’t putting a big happy face on this clusterfuck. Therefore O’Really & Co are in part repsonsible for this mess. Therefore, I will neglect to return this swell weapon I got while serving in Afghanistan, the one with the armor piercing bullets and pay him a visit…
    But I don’t advocate violence and I’m not a soldier. So that’s ok.

  • ***”I talked to everybody.”***
    —————————————————Bill O’Reilly

    It becomes “swimmingly simple” to see just how big, fat, and dumb Bill O’Reilly really is, when he refers to Karl Rove’s band of sock puppets as “everybody….”

  • It is a sad, sad indictment of the American public that Bill, Sean, Rush, Ann and the rest are names we even know. I cannot understand anyone can allow themselves to be so obviously manipulated, and be proud — even self-righteous — about it. Ignorance is the new badge of honor.

  • Up here in the Great White North, we are seeing more and more soldiers funerals.

    Our corpulant PM tried to do a Bush and ban newsies from soldiers bodies arriving back home. That was till an angry grieving mom invited the national media to her son’s return.

    They also just extended the tour from six months to nine.

    Every day I hear that the NATO forces need more troops.

    Is that all signs of it going swimmingly?

  • Ronald has a great point. Rather than stern reproach, Orgs like Media Matters should put up a little clown body with BO’s head photoshopped on, complete with little party hat (or rush popping pills, Savage donning sheets Etc). Have them popping out of a box after Pop goes the Weasel clinks to an end (BO or Rush in a Box, that should scare some kids).
    Whenever media clips are shown, wild canned laughter should follow each absurd statement.
    Finally, when the show’s over, all characterizations should exit by being dragged off by demon like entities (think of the movie Ghost’s bad guys).
    Good call, Ronald!

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