Bush’s treachery endorsed by McCain, Lieberman

Following up on an earlier item, the president spoke to the Israeli Knesset this morning, and instead of using the occasion to honor the 60th anniversary of the birth of Israel, Bush took ugly and cheap shots at Barack Obama and Democrats, equating their foreign policy with Nazi appeasement.

The response has been swift. John Kerry called Bush’s remarks part of a “disgusting and dangerous political game.” Joe Biden said, “This is bullshit. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset…and make this kind of ridiculous statement,” before adding that Bush’s Secretary of State and Defense Secretary seem to agree with the Dems on this.

Speaker Pelosi said, “I think what the President did in that regard was beneath the dignity of the office of the president and unworthy of our representation at that observance in Israel. And I would hope that any serious person would disassociate himself from the President’s remarks who aspires to leadership in our country.”

Howard Dean challenged Bush’s would-be Republican successor: “On the same day John McCain is talking about putting partisanship aside, the President launched a cheap political attack while on a state visit honoring the 60th anniversary of Israel, one of America’s greatest allies…. If John McCain is really serious about being a different kind of Republican, he’ll denounce these remarks in the strongest terms possible.”

Demonstrating the kind of craven, cowardly politics he claims to abhor, McCain did the opposite.

Senator John McCain, who has been critical of President Bush on the environment and other policies this week, on Thursday morning wholeheartedly endorsed Mr. Bush’s veiled rebuke in the Israeli Knesset on Senator Barack Obama that talking to “terrorists and radicals” was no different than appeasing Hitler and the Nazis. […]

Asked if he thought Mr. Obama was an appeaser — the Democratic candidate has said he would be willing to meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran — Mr. McCain sidestepped and said, “I think that Barack Obama needs to explain why he wants to sit down and talk with a man who is the head of a government that is a state sponsor of terrorism, that is responsible for the killing of brave young Americans, that wants to wipe Israel off the map, who denies the Holocaust. That’s what I think Senator Obama ought to explain to the American people.”

It’s only May, McCain is slipping further and further into the gutter. It’s nothing short of disgraceful.

It’s hard to overstate how pathetic Bush’s and McCain’s conduct is on this. It’s treacherous political slander at its most obvious. If, eight years ago, Bill Clinton traveled to foreign soil to take cheap and ridiculous shots at the Republican nominee during the presidential campaign, the right would be apoplectic. If Al Gore had quickly endorsed Clinton’s attacks, we would never hear the end of it. And yet, that’s exactly the dynamic we see playing out this morning.

I should note that there are a few competing angles to a story like this.

First, there are basic American patriotic norms. U.S. leaders are honor-bound not to travel to foreign soil to attack other U.S. leaders. It’s simply an un-American thing to do, and this is a tradition both parties have respected for generations. Bush has blown it off, and McCain couldn’t be more pleased. It’s contemptuous.

Second, there’s reality. Bush, following McCain’s misguided worldview, has managed to make Iran stronger. If Ahmadinejad is Hitler — the comparison itself is mind-numbing — Bush is the ultimate appeaser, ensuring that the enemy is better off than before. As for the notion that talking to our enemies is inherently dangerous, can we assume Bush and McCain are also prepared to denounce Reagan for his diplomatic outreach and discussion with the Evil Empire during the Cold War? Will they also denounce Bob Gates and Condolleezza Rice?

And third, as literally nauseating as Bush’s and McCain’s conduct has been this morning, the politics almost certainly play in Obama’s favor. Christopher Orr’s take is spot-on:

I’m struck by how politically foolish this assault appears to be. Bush attacking Obama, and Obama counter-attacking Bush, while John McCain sits on the sidelines, is a disastrous dynamic for the GOP. The more Obama can frame this race as him vs. the most unpopular president in modern history, the easier a time he’ll have in the fall.

Chris wrote that this morning, before McCain got off the sidelines, and suited up to bolster Bush’s slander. This, of course, makes the dynamic worse: it’s Obama vs. Bush/McCain, on a policy in which most Americans think Obama’s right.

I’m disgusted by Bush’s borderline-treasonous conduct, but I suppose Dems should at least be mildly thankful for the political gift.

Post Script: Joe Lieberman, taking on the role of McCain’s Mini-Me, got in on the fun, issuing a statement insisting, “President Bush got it exactly right today.” How sadly predictable.

Can we throw LIEberman out of the caucus now?

  • McCain is really screwing this up. This is NOT how Bush ran in 2000 or 2004. It’s fine to have your surrogates smear your opponent (though Bush definitely shouldn’t put himself in the spot of being a McCain surrogate), but the candidate is NOT supposed to directly smear his opponent. And even then, your surrogates can’t be directly tied to the campaign in any way.

    Of course, if things are so bad that McCain can’t even trust Fox News, Limbaugh Radio, and the rest of the rightwing smear machine to make the case against Obama, it’s unlikely that anything will save him. But this kind of stuff will NOT go over well for McCain. Presidential candidates are supposed to be above all this, and people WILL notice, even if the media doesn’t.

  • If I lived in Connecticut I would be throwing up right about now.

    But Steve is right, this is a gift for Obama. Bush has “strong approval” numbers which are very close to the single-digits. And McCain’s only hope is to peel himself away from Bush. But this flap will cement them together, and the American people, misinformed as they are, know one thing: Bush Lies. So if Bush says Obama is Hitler, then Obama must be doing something right.

    Wear it like a badge of honor, Barack.

  • Lieberman gets another dig in. When will the spineless Harry Reid dump this guy?

  • Well I guess Bush better fire Rice and Gates, they have both said we should sit down and talk with Iran.

    It is simply ludicrous and outrageous for Bush to make these comments but McCain and Lierberman? Give me a break.

  • All I am left with is the image of McCain as Charlie McCarthy and W as Edgar Bergen with Joe Lie as Salacious Crumb (the little cackling monkey like creature from Return of the Jedi).

  • And how are the MSM going to run with this?

    Breaking News – Senator Barack Hussain Obama attacks President Bush for condemning the Nazis in front of a Jewish audience – Restates his belief that appeasing Iran will prevent a Second Holocaust.

    In other news, Senator McCain was just swell today, and looked mighty Presidential.

    Something like that.

  • Apparently the Palistinians aren’t all that pleased either. It boggles the mind. Does Bush even have a strategy for peace anywhere in the world? Is he only focused on the 28%ers? Considering the Iranians actually wanted to cooperate when we invaded Iraq, you have to wonder what Bush’s real goals were.

  • …can we assume Bush and McCain are also prepared to denounce Reagan for his diplomatic outreach and discussion with the Evil Empire during the Cold War?

    Good point. And I repeat my earlier question: how much diplomatic contact did the US have with Axis powers during WW2? Hell, somebody had to offer an unconditional surrender.

  • “Is he only focused on the 28%ers?”

    He’s a 28%er himself, and he’s too dumb to know how big 28% is.

  • Why are we surprised by anything Bush says? This pathetic, little shit has managed to establish failure as his standard despite every possible advantage. He even managed to nearly mispronounce half the words in his speech — again, ’cause they was big words! Maybe he was also mad about Olbermann’s commentary last night suggesting that ‘Lil Georgie keep his big mouth shut.

  • Which leader overthrew the one big historic counterweight to Iran in the Middle East?

    Which leader helped Iran’s natural allies, the Shiites, gain majority rule in that former counterweight to Iran?

    When you cannot defend your actions and your policies, attack your opponents’ words. For Bush, it has been nothing but lies going in and lies coming out. How is that for restoring integrity and respect to the White House?

    Expect more of the same from Bush to set the stage for instilling fear into the minds of Americans just as they did in the 2004 election.

  • If the Dems had shown a little guts all along, called Bush on his BS all along the way, he wouldn’t have the contempt and cojones to make comments like this now.

    Hell, if the Dems had shown a little guts in 2000 and demanded every vote in Florida be counted in a united front, Bush might not be in the position to make asinine comments like this in the first place.

    We’re all responsible for our own bad behavior, but by now, we know there’s no depth to which Bush won’t sink, and the Dems by their complicit silence continue to allow Bush to use public forums for his jackassery.

  • Hell, if the Dems had shown a little guts in 2000 and demanded every vote in Florida be counted in a united front, Bush might not be in the position to make asinine comments like this in the first place.

    Coincidence that one of those willing to give up the vote counting in 2000 is the same person supporting Bush’s asinine comments today?

  • Bush is nothing more than an idiotic fool who had to go almost half-way around the world to find someone who would listen to his twisted, megalomanic lies. Darth Joe is almost as twisted, and his only value is to play the part of Bush’s pet Muppet.

    McPhony, however, has everything to lose over this—and the fact that he doesn’t recognize it just shows that his cognitive grasp on reality is beginning to fail at a foundational level. He’s not even a meaningful candidate now; he’s merely the “window dressing” for all the Big Brother posters that Cheney and Co. want to shove in everyone’s faces for the next 6 months.

    I’m anxious to see how these scum and their flying GOPer feral pigs deal with an Obama victory…landslide…blowout blitzkrieg in November. Visions of large numbers of documents, computers, and man-sized safes leaving the country before Christmas come to mind….

  • Time for Harry Reid to go as Senate Majority Leader and take the Lieberman with him.

  • Speaker Pelosi said, “I think what the President did in that regard was beneath the dignity of the office of the president and unworthy of our representation at that observance in Israel…

    Well, Madame Speaker, anytime you feel like throwing him out of office…

  • Once again, Appeasement of the Enemy is the modus operandi of the Democratic Party, and Obama was caught recently rushing to appease Hamas, even before he has won the Democratic Party’s nomination. Sure he denies the facts (once again), but it is clear that Robert Malley was one of his advisors, “informal” or “formal”.

    Asked if he thought Mr. Obama was an appeaser — the Democratic candidate has said he would be willing to meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran —…(emphasis mine)

    Obama has ‘Appeaser’ written all over him. With connections (friends, associates, advisors, and family) like Rashid Khalidi, Ali Abunimah, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Robert Malley, Cynthia K. Miller, Jennifer Mason, Shakir Muhammad, Raila Odinga (Obama’s cousin), Abongo “Roy” Obama (Obama’s half-brother), Frank Marshall Davis, Carl Davidson, Edward Said, Cornel West, Zigniew Brzezinski, Samantha Power, Hatem El-Hady, (to list a few) etc. it is clear who he will be appeasing…so to speak.

  • Right on, Joe! Man, do I love hearing pure political BS called for what it is.

  • Mc Cain = Worst than Bush 100 % withrawal until what 2016 . wat the hell ? I’m paying for the taxes . I’m really pissed.

    Obama + Edwards = new beginning a new direction to go.

    Hillary = Hillarious , unsatisfied wife =)

  • Steve (#21) said Bush is nothing more than an idiotic fool who had to go almost half-way around the world to find someone who would listen to his twisted, megalomanic lies. Darth Joe is almost as twisted, and his only value is to play the part of Bush’s pet Muppet.

    Hey Steve, if Joe is Bush’s muppet, where does his hand go?

  • If Joe Lieberman picked his nose for more than five minutes his head would cave in. I don’t believe there has ever been a time, nor will a time ever come, that George W Bush will get anything “exactly right.” My prediction is that, as he’s leaving office next January [hurry!], he will stop at a Hardee’s drive-thru and somehow fuck up and leave the restaurant in ruins. Everything this man sets his wretched hands upon, every syllable warbled by his demonic throat leaves, every object he fixes in his sneering, wincing gaze turns to shit, leaving in its wake a world further tainted by the single most despicable human being that has ever gasped and sputtered.

    “Got it exactly right” my ass.

    [My ass, on the other hand, is always exactly right.]

  • Once again proving that the only real Republican value is winning. Lying, cheating, stealing and even killing are all fine, as long as you don’t lose to the “enemy”. And even with their sole focus on gaining power at all costs, they still don’t have a clue how to use it effectively. Nice of Bush, McCain and Lieberman to become international embarrassments to America yet again.

  • KarmiCommunist said: “Once again, Appeasement of the Enemy is the modus operandi of the Democratic Party”

    Oh yeah, like when the Democrats sold the Iranians all those missiles.

    Oh wait, that was the Republicans. Hmm…

    Maybe you’re referring to the time the Democrats helped that dictator develop and use poison gas.

    Oh wait, that was the Republicans. Hmm…

    I know, you’re thinking about all those times that the Democrats held hands and kissed the king who rules that place where all the Wahabi terrorists keep coming from.

    Oh wait, that was the Republicans.

    Hmm.

    Maybe you’re just another Republican who doesn’t know enough history to tell appeasement from Shinola.

  • The Bush family made it’s money( W’s inheritence) by supporting and doing business with the Nazi’s in WW ll. So it is not surprising that Mr, C ih history class keeps bringing up the Nazi connection.The Bush family was very connected to Nazi’s and are wealthy today because of the Bush ancesters connection and collaboration with the Nazi’s.

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  • GW Bush is an absolute criminal. He should just shut the f–k up and addle his tiny brain with another drink. Grown-ups are trying to have a conversation.

  • I never thought I would write the following words.

    Joe Biden and John Kerry hit the nail on the head with their responses to the Bush BS. Great job and thanks.

  • Bush has blown it off, and McCain couldn’t be more pleased. It’s contemptuous. — CB

    Contemptible?

  • The other astounding thing about all of this, as Pat Buchanan astutely pointed out, is that Bush himself actually engaged in such diplomatic relations earlier with Muammar al-Gaddafi, an undisbuted terrorist leader in Libya. Not only that, but Bush has been negotiating with North Korea for a long time now. How does he reconcile the difference between negotiating with Iran and with North Korea, when he puts both of them on his Axis of Evil? It’s clearly an ugly case of pandering for Israeli support of the Republican Party.

  • The difference between talking to your enemies and appeasement is the difference between going to a wedding reception and bringing a gift.

  • Anybody else think Bush’s role in all this is to be a lightning rod, and distract attention away from McCain?

  • The more Bush and McCain talk, the more that us veterans realize Obama is more like Reagan. Bush and McCain seem to be stuck and guided by the same missteps of the Vietnam War. Obama has said in him Israel will have an unwavering ally. Bush surely has made Iran, N. Korea, and even our South American friends feisty enemies. Bush’s foreign policy has only encourage deeper hatred, and put our nation into an unwanted war-path. He has talked a lot of trash, but nothing to back it up. The result is more terrorist, a nuclear Iran, and North Korea, and a more Marxist South America. Obama is more like Reagan, he is skinny but he can fight. Reagan never stopped talking to Gorbachev and his predecessors. Reagan had a credible military build up and international coalition that meant business. Obama so called willingness to talk to our enemies, never was meant to be construed as an acceptance of everything evil going on in these countries, for the contrary it is a warning that if you are not willing to talk we will have the power and will to hold our ground and protect our and our allies interests. Obama unlike Bush will have the power to stabilize, protect and defend America. Bush took in more than he bargain for in Iraq. Our enemies know this and are out of hand. When Obama is President the Armed Forces will be brought back to the strength of the Reagan years if need be, if our enemies are unwilling to listen. Talking smack, with an empty gun is what Bush and his Republican Congress call military strength, then why aren’t we safer today than we were eight years ago?

  • It’s not as if Bush could argue he’s ignorant on the subject. His family history makes them experts on Nazi appeasement and fascist takeovers, having taken lessons from the big A.H. himself. (Just look up Smedley Butler sometime.)

  • George Bush’s ability and willingness to lie us into war is based in tenents of Naziism and also philosphies of Leo Strauss-father of NeoCons.The premier affilliation for this school of thought is the Fellowship in D.C. Leo Strauss,is the father of American neo-conservatism and the mentor of such present-day American neo-conservatives as Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz. The Nazi idea of telling the big lie in order to justify the end goals ” Machiavellianism on steroids.. It is this confluence of right-wing philosophies that provides a political bridge between modern-day Christian Rightists (including so-called Christian Zionists) and the secular-oriented neo-conservatives who support a policy that sees a U.S.-Israeli alliance against Islam and European-oriented democratic socialism. For the dominion theologists, the United States is the new Israel, with a God-given mandate to establish dominion over the entire planet. Neither the secular neo-conservatives nor Christian fundamentalists seem to have a problem with the idea of American domination of the planet, as witnessed by the presence of representatives of both camps as supporters of the neo-conservative Project for a New American Century, the neo-conservative blueprint for America”s attack on Iraq and plans to attack, occupy, and dominate other countries that oppose U.S. designs.
    Christian Mafia”,Wayne Madsen.

  • When I heard Bush’s speach I couldn’t tell if he realized he was talking about his own country and countrymen. Did he become so overcome by the sycophantic drivel coming from the Prime Minister and the other high level Israelis at his speach? How ashamed he should be. Everyone knows that you don’t talk about your family’s dirty laundry in public. His family should have taught him that with their need for privacy and secrecy. He actually slurred another very important American citizen out loud into a microphone in front of the whole world. He has to be the cruelest, unthinking, selfish, self-righteous, incompetent, corrupt fraction of a man ever born. Since he seems to think that he owes America no loyalty, maybe he should be stopped at the airport on his return and refused entry into our country. Maybe the Isrealis will take him in.

  • It is time that Democrats and Americans realize Joe Lieberman’s role at the center of 8 year meltdown (near self-destruction) of the Democratic Party – and how Lieberman reflects the Neo-Con, neo-imperial agenda that is the core of the radical, reactionary right-wing ideology, and theft of 2 presidential elections, and the abuse of so many other laws and powers in America since the theft of election 2000.

    Senator Joe Lieberman’s failure to drop his senate race, when given the singular honor of being Al Gore’s VP nominee in the 2000 election, was a disgrace. It signaled that Lieberman was not putting his all into that presidential race, but instead was holding back, “saving some ammunition” for his senate race.

    Mr. Gore should have dropped Lieberman like a hot-potato on the spot, but like so many of us, once Mr. Gore had selected Lieberman to be his running mate, Gore followed his bad logic through to the bitter end.

    Lieberman did not refuse to drop his senate race out of fear that Gore would lose, but as a SIGNAL that, even in 2000, Lieberman was far more in touch with the Neo-Con agenda of more wars and “a more muscular US foreign policy” than he was with Gore’s vision of an America that abides by treaties and mutual cooperation.

    The perfect icon of that agenda is of course the Kristol-Kagan “PNAC” NewAmericanCentury.org manifesto (“statement of principles”), calling for immediate invasion of Iraq, signed by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Podhoretz, Kagan, Kristol, Jeb Bush, and others. You can bet your last dime that Lieberman was in touch with these PNACers, half of whom like Lieberman are AIPAC/Likudnik hardliners, and then – that is, BEFORE election 2000 – as now, Lieberman’s sympathies lied with the “INVADE IRAQ NOW!” crowd, and not with the Democratic voters across America he was pledging himself to “fight for your votes” all through that long 2000 campaign.

    Lieberman doubled-down on his duplicity, when Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle foolishly (like Al Gore) misread the signs of Lieberman’s true (radical right) sympathies, and Daschle threw the CRUCIAL 2002 ENRON INVESTIGATIONS in to… Joe Lieberman’s committee.

    Where Lieberman, then and now a huge fan of Bush-Cheney’s war proposals, promptly CRUSHED the Senate Enron investigation, wet-blanketing it in his committee.
    Lieberman’s toothless Enron investigations ROBBED Democratic voters, activists, and candidates of their BEST ISSUE in 2002: the chance to TIE President Bush to ENRON CORRUPTION.

    Enron and Ken Lay had of course been Mr. Bush’s #1. donors through both of Bush’s Texas gubernatorial races, Bush’s 2000 GOP primary race, the presidential race itself, the Florida recount battle, and the inauguration committee.

    In return for all that Enron support, Bush and Cheney kept federal auditors at bay from Enron until the company finally collapsed; and even then, Bush and Cheney gave Enron ONE LAST CHANCE to DEFRAUD American consumers, with Enron’s fixed West Coast electricity scams (rigged bids, overloaded circuits, power-plants shut down for ‘maintenance,’ etc.)

    Ironically, Lieberman was only a Committee Chair, and Daschle only the Majority Leader, because of REPUBLICAN Senator Jim Jeffords (R-Vt) COURAGEOUS “defection” from the Republican Party in early 2002, handing the majority back to the hapless, undeserving Democrats. \

    (note: Part of the reason the Democrats were so hapless in 2002, was because of the trauma of the ANTHRAX ATTACKS on Senator Daschle and Leahy’s offices just 2 short weeks after 9-11-2001.)

    Senator Joe Lieberman TOOK THE GIFT of a new Democratic majority, promptly CRUSHED IT (like smashing an egg on the sidewalk) by KILLING an effective Enron investigation, and thereby ALLOWED Republicans to win back the Senate in the midterm election of 2002, on of course the Republican main themes of “FEAR AND SMEAR” gay-bashing, race-baiting, and implied sympathy with terrorists.

    It is a disgraceful record, that even astute Democratic observers and critics have not quite connected the dots about, because the true extent of Lieberman’s democracy-killing agenda is so awful to contemplate. But there you have it: Lieberman’s Neo-Con sympathies with the radical right-wing of the Republican Party were in full bloom BEFORE the 2000 election. At each and every turn, over 8 long years, Senator Lieberman has sided with the WORST tendencies of the anti-democratic Right-Wing, over the hopes and needs of millions of American voters.

  • It’s too soon to dump Lieberman. If we do that now, he will play the victim and cost us Jewish votes. Not only that, he gets cred with Repugs and ends up as McSame’s VP choice. Better to wait until after the landslide victory and strip him of all his prestigious appointments…he’s a nothing and needs to be treated as such.

  • And of course, Bush, McCain and “others” don’t know their history either. Adolph Hitler didn’t spring fully formed out of the head of Zeus. There were economic, social and political conditions that facilitated his rise to power – of course. And the US even participated in the creation of those conditions in negotiating the Treaty of Versailles after WWI, a Treaty that most would agree absolutely humiliated the Germans – and most also agree that humiliation and power-grabbing is a poor set-up for peaceful relationships with other sovereign states. (I.E. IRAQ George!) Hitler was whatever the hell he was, but it is not ONLY the German people who must take some of the responsibility for the tragic manifestations of his rise to power.

  • Throw a quarter in the juke box and play B4 – Before Bush.

    Looks like even country music stations are upset with Bush attacking an American citizen running for public office:

    “Currently, 147 country music stations have instituted the [Bush] ban, a number which has been growing by the hour. Clear Channel, a major syndicator to all radio formats across America, is considering the ban, which would increase the numbers significantly and be a major blow to the White House. Several Clear Channel stations have independently instituted their own ban.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/country-radio-stations-sh_b_102147.html

    Bush may find his Hitler remarks backfiring even further on him considering his own well documented family history of appeasement, support and money laundering for Hitler.

    http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/families/bush-dynasty/bush-family-fortune-from-nazis-dutch-connection.txt

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/012303A.ma.dead.htm

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0925-01

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8783.htm

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