Can Obama compete in ‘The Last Frontier’?

The NYT had an item a couple of weeks ago about the Obama campaign taking the “50-state strategy” pretty seriously, including on-the-ground operations in every state and inquiring about advertising rates in 25 states, including “red” states like Georgia, Mississippi, and North Carolina.

When it comes to “stretching” the map, how ambitious a plan are we talking about?

Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe, said that the primary contest had left the campaign with strong get-out-the-vote operations in Republican states that were small enough that better-than-usual turnout could make a difference in the general election. Among those he pointed to was Alaska, which last voted for a Democrat in 1964.

Alaska? “The Last Frontier” has been part of the electoral college long enough to compete in the last 12 presidential campaigns. The Republican candidate won 11 of them, and the only time a Dem won Alaska was in 1964, when LBJ cruised past Barry Goldwater in a national landslide.

And yet, there’s the Obama campaign, specifically pointing to Alaska as a state they’re keeping an eye on. I can appreciate ambitious strategies as much as the next guy, but John Kerry just lost in Alaska by 26 points four years ago. Is it even remotely realistic to consider the state in play just one cycle later?

Apparently so.

In one of the bigger surprises of Election 2008, early polling shows Barack Obama as potentially competitive in Alaska.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Alaska voters finds John McCain earning 45% of the vote while Barack Obama attracts 41%. Seven percent (7%) say they’d vote for some other candidate while another 6% are not sure. This is the third straight poll showing Obama within single digits of the presumptive GOP nominee [in Alaska].

Wait, it gets better.

Maybe the Rasmussen poll is a fluke? Perhaps, but it’s not the only poll pointing to Alaska as competitive.

A Democratic-funded poll out of Alaska suggests that Barack Obama’s pledge to expand the traditional Electoral College playing field this fall may well find fertile soil in places that haven’t seen a competitive presidential race in decades.

John McCain leads Obama 44 percent to 42 percent in Alaska, with Libertarian nominee Bob Barr taking 3 percent, according to the Global Strategy Group survey, which was conducted for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and obtained by The Fix.

Nate Silver makes the case that the Obama campaign has every reason to consider Alaska competitive.

There is certainly some novelty value in the notion of a Democrat competing in Alaska. But it’s a state that the Obama campaign ought to be taking reasonably seriously: Alaska is the youngest state in the country in a year where we have the largest-ever age gap between the two nominees. Indeed, it’s probably time for Obama to visit Alaska. I don’t have any numbers on this, but I would guess that candidate visits make more difference in smaller states, and particularly those that are out of the way geographically. If Obama visits Alaska, it will create a ton of earned media, and McCain will probably have to follow him to defend the state.

Markos added, “There is a dramatic political shift happening in Alaska before our very eyes…. We can take those 3 EVs from McCain.”

I realize it may seem odd to focus attention on a state with three electoral votes that has backed the Republican candidate in every election for more than four decades. But if Obama is seriously competitive in Alaska, it would point to a map that’s been stretched in ways few thought possible.

Let’s make this like the 2008 Celtics v Lakers and show no mercy, leave no room for error, and give no reason to think they have a chance to come back!

  • For the likes of us common Americans this election represents voting for the past or voting for the future. Just look at the candidates and make your bets on who you think will be our next president. Will it be the candidate who projects the old, stale politics of fear and loathing or will it be the candidate who projects a hopeful future where we Americans stand for unity through diversity and only fear fear itself?

    I don’t know, but the latter sounds so much better than the former and lord knows we’ve had a shitload of the former for the past too many years! -Kevo

  • An Obama visit to Alaska might help the down-ticket races as well. Both Don Young and Ted Stevens are vulnerable this year. It’s hard to believe, I know, but neither is polling well.

  • Glenn Greenwald at Salon tears Obama a new one over the Telecom bill. It ain’t pretty.

    Obama has been financed by small donors and was nominated by small states. It makes sense to continue the strategy. But I’m mad at him today.

  • There’s another reason why the full fifty state strategy is important. Obama wants to make major changes in the way Washington runs, and to do that he is going to need to use the bully pulpit to great advantage. In order to do that he has to make inroads in every state. Information and perception can be viral and Obama needs to plant those seeds everywhere.

  • Alaska is the youngest state in the country in a year where we have the largest-ever age gap between the two nominees.-Nate Silver

    That’s wrong. Hawaii is the youngest state.

  • That’s wrong. Hawaii is the youngest state.

    Just to clarify, Haik, Nate meant the state with the lowest median age, not the year in which the state entered the Union. Alaska has a lot of young people, young people tend to support Obama, etc.

  • Haik Bedrosians @ 6:

    Alaska is the youngest state in the country in a year where we have the largest-ever age gap between the two nominees.-Nate Silver

    That’s wrong. Hawaii is the youngest state.

    I think NS meant that the population of Alaska is younger than the population of any other state, not that the state of Alaska is younger (newer?) than any other state.

    According to this site, by the way, he’s in error: Utah has the lowest median age, at 28 years.

  • With enough smaller states bringing enough electoral votes, it could cancel out or at least reduce the shananagins that the republicans will pull in Florida again.

  • The list of the seventeen states that Barack Obama’s campaign decided to send volunteers to as a priority included all of the following: Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin. That includes all of the usual suspects, plus some like New Jersey that I wasn’t happy to see and others like Virginia and North Carolina that I was very, very pleased to see. New Jersey is always the state where the Republicans feel they have a shot, but in the end, they fail by ten or so points. On the other hand, if we can peel off North Carolina and Georgia in addition to Virginia, McCain’s going to be toast. In fact, after adding up all of the Electoral votes of the above states plus the ones that Kerry and Gore also won, we’d be at 379. I’d love for us to have that margin of victory.

    Of course, I was a little bit disappointed to see certain states left off the list. Why wouldn’t we send some people, or more than we’d send to Utah and Alabama, to Louisiana, Indiana, Montana, South Carolina, the Dakotas, Alaska, Arkansas, and/or Texas? My first thought is that these states are probably more of a long shot than the others. The second is that if you add up the Electoral votes of some of the smaller states, they still don’t add up to the votes of Georgia. For purposes of maximizing a candidate’s time and resources, it might be better to focus on one bigger state now than a few smaller states. There’s also probably a better chance of registering new voters in Georgia than in South Dakota. Of course, in the end, setting up shop in Alaska or Indiana is probably cheaper than setting it up in a bigger state, like Ohio, and while a late start wouldn’t help, McCain isn’t likely to have an active operation in those states, so I am not worried. What’s more, from what I’ve read, this is one of two waves that will happen. Come July, the campaign will see what’s up and possibly dispatch volunteers to additional states. This might include states like the ones I listed above.

    The point is, I’m willing to trust the campaign. They know far more about this than any of us. They know, for instance, how many unregistered voters there are in each state, how much it would cost to advertise, and other facts that help them make the decisions. Besides, Obama’s campaign has shown itself to be very shrewed at making decisions. I’ve got a lot of faith in them. These people know what they are doing, so I am going to let them do it.

  • I’d be very surprised to see Alaska go blue, but I think symbolically it’s important, and going there would certainly energize his supporters there. I wouldn’t put money there at the expense of a true swing state, but really, he should have plenty of money to throw a little their way. If I were a Dem in Alaska I would be very motivated by a little attention.

    And, yeah, if we could make Sen. Series of Tubes go away that would be teh awsum.

  • It is not just Obama that may compete in Alaska, there are other Dems on the Ballot there in 2008 as well.

    See The Fix or here for details.

    Ted Stevens needs to be involuntarily retired from the Senate. And Don’t forget Don Young from the at-large house seat. Young is so corrupt that RedState is targeting Young for defeat by promoting a primary challenge.

    If Obama does well in Alaska, expect Stevens and Young to bankrupt their war chests and just be plain miserable. Or more miserable than they already are.

    Both of these guys need to go. And Obama may be the one that help show them the door.

  • The Obama campaign has the same advantage over the McCain campaign that the West had over the Soviet Union: a good economy and better organization. The same thing was, in part, responsible for Senator Obama’s nomination over Hillary Clinton. If the Republicans take all the red states for granted, a few will be lost to good grassroots campaigning and spending plenty of money. If they decide to contest the Obama campaign in thoses states, it will cost them money that could be put into other states and they don’t have the donations that the Democrats do. Even the states that are solid red need campaign money to get the message across and to bring out the vote. If the Republicans fail to bring out their base and energize the independents, they can lose states like Alaska.

    Of course, the 527s and the RNC have a lot of money, but they will have to have an epiphany to make the early decision to fight an anti-grassroots battle. If they wait too long, the Ombama campaign will have more feet on the ground in places like Alaska and be ahead of the game.

    I doubt that a state like Kentucky might go for Obama, but if enough of the dissatisfied Republican base fails to show, the independent votes that the McCain campaign is counting on may not carry the state.

    This will be a lot of hard work that requires money and volunteers but the Obama campaign seems able to provide both. The strategy can work and has been shown to be successful in the past. If the Clinton Democrats buy into the prospect of total control of two branches of the government and show up at the polls, it may even succeed.

  • Someone is surprised? Ted Stevens and Don Young are both now revealed as the sleazy con artists they are and always have been. Friends up there say that there’s a strong “throw the bums out” feeling.

    And Milkeyes is dead-on right with his analysis and prescription.

  • Obama should go after Alaska because it will make him look like a winner. And in America, if you look like a winner, you are a winner.

  • I have to go with Commander Guy. The main thing is not winning Alaska for Obama, but for the guys in the down-ballot races. It’s important to win the presidency, but it’s also important to make sure Obama’s got large majorities in both chambers of congress.

  • 4. Dale said: Glenn Greenwald at Salon tears Obama a new one over the Telecom bill. It ain’t pretty.
    Obama has been financed by small donors and was nominated by small states. It makes sense to continue the strategy. But I’m mad at him today.

    And Obama deserves it IMO. I’m a big fan of Obama’s style and some of his substance, but there are some troubling indications that he is going to pull a Clinton and let all the Bush crooks off the hook in the name of moving on and getting things done. Telecom immunity is one of them, he says he opposes it but GG is right, Obama could kill the bill if he wanted and he has chosen not to.

  • Can anyone explain why Alaska has been Red for so long? On the surface, it appears to me that they would oppose Republican ideology.

  • “And Obama deserves it IMO. I’m a big fan of Obama’s style and some of his substance, but there are some troubling indications that he is going to pull a Clinton and let all the Bush crooks off the hook in the name of moving on and getting things done. Telecom immunity is one of them, he says he opposes it but GG is right, Obama could kill the bill if he wanted and he has chosen not to.”

    True enough that he deserves heat over FISA / telecom, and for that matter, what was he thinking when he supported the Lieber-man? He’s far from perfect, and their grassroots process brilliance is not always (at least thus far) matched by policy brilliance or progressive issue viewpoints. But all in all, I’ll take it.

    Life is long, and I don’t think there’s going to be a true ‘off the hook’ movement this time. Yes, there will be less punishment than many deserve (I’m predicting little jail, but LOT’s of disbarments), but he simply has to deal with politicization, Blackwater, etc, etc, or else he’ll own it, and they are, if nothing else, smart enough to know that.

    I’ll wait until 2 years in before I really even decide that he’s truly failing us on issues like spying, Iraq, health care, etc. They need (and deserve) some room to run.

    Of course, I’m also glad Greenwald is bashing him on telecom immunity, as well. Just because I’m not jumping ship doesn’t mean I can’t point and yell! Which I did, to my Congressman this AM, on that point. And my guy is good (so far) on the issue.

  • I happen to agree with Obama on ‘moving on and getting things done.’ There are some examples that have to be prosecuted (Seigleman, KBR, the Attorney scandal), but, for the most part, going back will only serve to reunite the splintered Republicans, tie up the courts, and cause so much static as the Republican spin machine gets to work that it will be counter-productive.

    Expose them, yes.

    Change the policies, yes.

    Prosecute them, no. (What goal, other than revenge, will it serve?)

    Or, to quote Pete Townshend:
    “We foresake you, gonna rape you
    Let’s forget you, better still.”

  • Obviously when the Dems take over, they should just “move on and get things done.”

    After all, that’s exactly what they did after Watergate and Iran-Contra, and it’s not like any of those Republican criminals came back to wreak more damage on the country and the Constitution — oh, wait…

  • Lofistew:
    After Watergate, we had Carter, who hardly had a new program for the country. And the President after Iran-Contra was George HW Bush.

    The difference is that Obama, obviously, will be leading the country in a new direction. He HAS things to do. Unnecessary revenge prosecutions will be a distraction.

    And one other point I have been hoping to make. Some of us have been acting like prosecution is a simple thing, as if Obama could just decalre them guilty and that’s it. We have been celebrating how Obama will mean the return of the rule of law. We have been cheering the Supreme Court for granting detainees their due process rights. Well, Republicans have the same rights — and a lot more powerful lawyers, who will be fighting as hard as they can to tie things up, challenging the indictments, demanding months or years of discovery procedures (as they SHOULD, they should use every legitimate tactic in the Republicans’ defense, because that’s part of the ‘rule of law’ as well.) And at the same time they will be ‘playing the media.’

    If the cases were to get to trial, they’d monopolize the news media in a way that would make us think of the OJ trial as the equivalent of an uncontested divorce.

    Again, we’ve got better things to do, things that should not get buried on page 28 because everybody would be featuring the latest trial news.

    Oh, and another thing tied up with the ‘rule of law.’ Not every rotten, unethical, unfair, detestable action by bad men is criminal. Yes, many of the things done were, but a lot of what we have hated about Bush are technically not criminal. Lying us into a war is not a crime, for example. Even favoring the most absurd of the Religious Right, or handing them money is not criminal — unconstitutional yes, but not criminal. Some things, like Seigleman, like contempt of Congress are, but too many of them simply can’t have a case made against them that will hold up — and failed prosecutions are worse than none at all. That’s one reason why I have constantly cheered Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table. A conviction was impossible. (Remember, by the way, that several Congressman tried to make the ‘undeclared war’ against Laos and Cambodia a ground for impeaching Nixon. It failed, massively. And nobody even suggested that the lies that created the Gulf of Tonkin resolution was either criminal or impeachable.)

  • I realize it may seem odd to focus attention on a state with three electoral votes that has backed the Republican candidate in every election for more than four decades.

    Obama may be thinking more of the down-ticket races than of the 3 EV’s. Democrats focused too exclusively on the presidential election in 2004. The 50-state strategy is a response to that.

    Like every other state, Alaska has 2 Senators, and the scandal plagued Stevens is on the ballot this year. If Obama can help move a few points towards Stevens’ rival he’d have made a pretty big coup politically speaking, even if he loses the state himself. That would help set the stage for a more credible win in the 2012 reelection campaign.

  • Aaron said:
    Can anyone explain why Alaska has been Red for so long? On the surface, it appears to me that they would oppose Republican ideology.

    Republicans in the west are a different breed from the ones you see in the east and south.

    The main difference is is a desire to be left alone …. its a more liberatian orientation.

  • Prosecute them, no. (What goal, other than revenge, will it serve?)

    If they’ve broken laws, it will serve to reestablish the rule-of-law.

  • Prup:

    Since when does justice equal revenge?

    If we, as a country, allow all this GOP malfeasance to slide, yet again, then the same crew will be back again in 10 or 20 years, taking more whacks at the Constitution.

    And what makes you think that — even if Obama and the Dems play nice and attempt to move the country in new direction — the Republicans won’t block every move they make anyway? As we’ve seen, the GOP thrives as a minority, obstructionist party. They can’t govern, but they can make sure no one else governs either.

    But don’t worry, I’m sure your viewpoint will prevail in the end. I just hope you won’t be surprised in 2020 or so when the heirs of Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld return to commit more atrocities. If our nation survives that long, that is.

  • I am not voting against the Republicans this year. Halle-f*ckin-luiah I am actually voting FOR the Democrat. I happen to believe that Obama will be a great President — and that the Republican opposition will be too small to do much obstructing. I expect that whoever the Republicans run in 2012 will not be the new Dole but the new Landon. The country will — I believe — like the Obama Presidency as much as they did FDRs.

    And if the Democrats do lose the White House in 2020, it will be to a new ‘center-right’ party and that the Republicans will be getting as many votes as the Federalists or the Whigs.

  • Prup (aka Jim Benton) said: “Prosecute them, no. (What goal, other than revenge, will it serve?)”

    For the ones involved in authorizing torture I have a perfect solution.

    Since they are war criminals, any country in the world can bring charges against them (like Spain did to Augusto Pinocet). Therefore, as a country we can’t let ANY of them travel outside of America because they could be arrested and sent to the Hague, and we don’t want to have to start a war with NATO for arresting our ex-officials.

    Therefore, confiscate their passports, from Boy George II through Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the way down to the lawyers who said we could torture people.

    Now, BGII may have never planned to leave Crawford, but even Texas is going to start to feel a little small when he KNOWS he’s not allowed to leave the country.

    And the best part is, we get to say “It’s for their own protection.”

  • Lance, and Prup,

    I wouldn’t mind closing my eyes — just this once — to having them all renditioned to Netherlands (the Hague), illegal as the act might be…

  • Oh GREAT idea, simply WONDERFUL — if you want to guarantee another 28 years of Republican rule — assuming that Obama didn’t first use every diplomatic method and then, if necessary send troops to rescue them — as he would. (Am I the only one who remembers that it was Carter’s failure during the Iran hostage crisis more than anything else that gave us Reagan, which gave us Bush, which gave us the Clintons, which gave us Bush.)

    The fact is that the Pinochet trial was of dubious legality, and this would be even more so — and people don’t like to see even ordinary Americans treated this way — even if they are legitimately tried for breaking laws. (What was that movie, Midnight something about the guy in prison in Turkey for breaking the drug laws. He WAS guilty, but he was the hero of the movie.)

    (I hope everyone understands that when i argue against prosecution of Bush, et al, it isn’t because I have the slightest doubt that they are ‘guilty as charged.’ They are. But trying them, impeaching them, etc. would simply give Republicans weapons to beat Democrats over the head with for decades — and this is one way where their spin machine would be effective, so much so that the Democrats would be spending so much time trying to defend themselves against the charge that this was ‘simply a political maneuver’ that the merits and facts of the case would get totally lost.)

  • Btw, I can’t help letting my ego out for a run, but Cb, you end your comment with “it would point to a map that’s been stretched in ways few thought possible.”

    Well, I was one of that ‘few’ going back to last year and have been consistent in claiming that we were in a Johnson-Goldwater situation. Admittedly, things have broken even better than I expected — mostly because we have the best candidate we’ve run in over forty years. But we’ve always been locks for the election, whichever candidate we’d nominated, and whichever of the Republicans had gotten the nomination. The real comparison is 1932, only Obama is already more impressive during the election than Roosevelt was — he was criticizing Hoover for not balancing the budget, heaven help us — and Bush is much less popular than Hoover was.

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