Can we do the election over again?

It seems like ancient history, but the 2004 presidential election wasn’t that long ago. It was even recent enough for me to remember some of the things voters were told.

For example, Bush-Cheney ’04 told us that we couldn’t vote for Kerry or we’d see an increase in government spending. As it turns out

Having skirted budget restraints and approved nearly $300 billion in new spending and tax breaks before leaving town, Republican lawmakers are now determined to claim full credit for the congressional spending. Far from shying away from their accomplishments, lawmakers are embracing the pork, including graffiti eradication in the Bronx, $277 million in road projects for Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), and a $200,000 deer-avoidance system in New York.

When the year started, President Bush made spending restraint a mantra, laying out an austere budget that would freeze non-security discretionary spending for five years and setting firm cost limits on transportation and energy bills. But now, as Congress fills in the details of the budget plan, there is little interest in making deep cuts and enormous pressure to spend. […]

“If you look at fiscal conservatism these days, it’s in a sorry state,” said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), one of only eight House members to vote against the $286.5 billion transportation bill that was passed the day before the recess. “Republicans don’t even pretend anymore.”

Or if we voted for Kerry, it might lead to bilateral negotiations between the United States and North Korea. As luck would have it

The Bush administration has discovered the art of diplomacy in dealing with North Korea…. So the Bush administration is finally waking up to talking the talk, and learning to give and take. After consistently refusing one-on-one talks with Pyongyang, Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill has had four private sessions with North Korean Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan in Beijing where six nations have gathered to try to steer North Korea away from becoming a nuclear power.

Or if Kerry were president, we might have an administration that doesn’t fully appreciate what the “war on terror” actually means. Oh wait

President Bush publicly overruled some of his top advisers on Wednesday in a debate about what to call the conflict with Islamic extremists, saying, “Make no mistake about it, we are at war.”

In a speech here, Mr. Bush used the phrase “war on terror” no less than five times. Not once did he refer to the “global struggle against violent extremism,” the wording consciously adopted by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other officials in recent weeks after internal deliberations about the best way to communicate how the United States views the challenge it is facing.

In recent public appearances, Mr. Rumsfeld and senior military officers have avoided formulations using the word “war,” and some of Mr. Bush’s top advisers have suggested that the administration wanted to jettison what had been its semiofficial wording of choice, “the global war on terror.”

In an interview last week about the new wording, Stephen J. Hadley, Mr. Bush’s national security adviser, said that the conflict was “more than just a military war on terror” and that the United States needed to counter “the gloomy vision” of the extremists and “offer a positive alternative.”

For the record, Bush started out after 9/11 insisting that he was leading a war on terror. From there, he said his administration had “actually misnamed the war on terror,” and said it should be “the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world.” Bush later added, “I don’t think you can win” a war on terrorism.

Since then, Gen. Richard Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said he has “objected to the use of the term ‘war on terrorism’ before,” while Rumsfeld moved away from the “war on terror” description, saying the conflict is a “global struggle against violent extremism.”

During the campaign, of course, Bush and Cheney scored campaign points by arguing that a Kerry administration wouldn’t send a consistent signal to the world about our efforts to combat terrorism. We can’t have that, now can we?

I guess it’s too late to do the election over again. It’s a shame; considering what we know now, I don’t think Bush would have wanted to vote for himself.

Damn, CB–why don’t you just hit them with the chair next time!

  • Damn, CB–why don’t you just hit them with the chair next time!

    Well, the pain from a chair attack fades away. I’m hoping to leave a more lasting impression.

  • Ah, but we’ve got the exception that proves
    the rule: Mr. Flip-Flop Kerry, which is
    decidedly not what Bush is.

    He stubbornly pursues his failed agenda
    no matter what reality throws up in his
    path. It’s like hurling a Ping-Pong ball
    at an ocean liner to change its course.

    He has got to be the most stubborn,
    bullheaded president of all time, who does,
    tragically, tend to get his way, notwithstanding
    Social Security so far. Not bad for a guy
    who has a lifelong habit of not showing
    up for work very often, and a 40% absentee
    rate as president.

  • Go get ’em CB. To add a little to the humor of this flip-flopping, check out this great Huff Post on the backtracking of moral absolutism in this administration. Forget “neo-conâ€?, these guys should be the “neo-never-knewâ€? party. Choice quote (the whole thing is hilarious):

    ————–
    . . .Tim Russert asked him: “Did you make a misjudgment about the cost of the war?�

    RUMSFELD: “I never estimated the cost of the war. And how can one estimate the cost in lives or the cost in money? I’ve avoided it consistently. And how can that be a misestimate? We’ve said that there are always going to be unknowns, that the battle was going to change, depending on what the enemy does and how they adjust and how we adjust…â€?

    And of course there is this all-time great postmodernist Rummy riff:

    “As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

    ————

    I’ve always known there was an unknown I would never know unless it was an unknowable unknown. Or did I?

  • Ya “know,” Eadie, if you work at this “unknowable unknown” riff just a little bit more, you could create a “Who’s on First” routine to rival Abbott and Costello! And I (an ever so humble local-community theatre thespian) would be mosty pleased to perform it with you. Go for it…

  • We’re too stupid to live. The irresponsible, uninformed, mendacity of the mayberry machiavellis was NOT an unknown unknown, it was a known known. I STILL can’t believe that Kerry couln’t beat this guy; seems inconceivable. doesn’t it?

  • I’ve been wondering how Bush would run on his record this year as opposed to last if the campaign were occurring now. But then I remember that he more ran against Kerry than on this record, and figure they would be doing the same thing now. Also, as Iraq gets worse and worse, I really prefer having the Republicans in charge while it happens. Can you imagine the grief a President Kerry would be getting with all the soldiers being killed this week there, and if he were sailing off Cape Cod while it was happening?

  • That Kerry didn’t win against these clowns speaks volumes. Let’s pick a better canidate next time. Make your vote count: get involved early.

  • Let’s pick a better canidate next time. Make your vote count: get involved early.

    If you think for a second I’m moving to Iowa, you’re flat crazy.

  • “the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world.”

    Ah yes, the SAIEWDNBIFSWHTUTAAWTTTSTCOTFW.

    Maybe it should be the Global War Against Radicals, or GWAR…maybe the band would sue?

    Or Spaceballs II: The Search for More Money.

  • Gawd, I live the sound of whining liberals in the morning. It sounds like……..Victory!

  • George Bush is correct about one thing: there is a war going on.
    A war against common sense, truth, justice, the poor, the middle class,
    and the English language. Since he became president no one but the
    lunatics are safe. Agree with Bush or else….!

  • Of course you left out the biggest flipflop of all. Kerry (if I remember correctly) sort of suggested at one point that, if the Iraqi security forces are up to it, and if things are calm enough then we might be in a position to start setting some kind of tentative timetable to guide a drawdown of US troops from Iraq. What a wimpy LLL moonbat peacenik hippy fifth-column defeatist terrorist-loving commy UN-loving spineless blame-America freedom-hating pussy!

    Now we hear that the Bush admin is drawing up a timetable for a drawdown of US troops from Iraq, if the Iraqi security forces are up to it.

    Also interesting is “Fred Jones”‘s reaction to a post itemizing the different way that Bush has abandoned the principles on which he was re-elected. To Fred, and I guess most of the rightwingers, the principles thing is beside the point. What counts is victory! for the guys in my makeshift “tribe”. OK, whatever. Since you don’t give a damn about your principles, why not move aside since you’re implementing ours anyway?

  • … and shutting down Guantanamo. I forget if Kerry suggested that but I’m sure it would have been considered outrageous lefty wimpishness if he did so. But looks like that’s where they’re headed.

  • John Kerry was always against this war, just for the record. But with the country at 51% for the war at election time, as opposed to 38% now, we were dealing with pockets of the country, VERY misinformed, at varying readiness to listen.

    We also had a new passionate, group-think on the blogs, refighting the primaries, and to this day, with that phony litmus of the IWR all the candidates were in agreement on (exc Dennis K), which still don’t get how tough it is to peel away those votes from GOP party identity.

    To comment on your vacationing reference, a few months after his cancer surgery he rode a 110 bike race and finished 32 out of 3,700+. He does have grit

    Kerry is known to be a tough competitor, and we all had complaints about the campaign, yet I’m not sure my way would have been different. How about not mentioning Iran Contra and BCCI as bad advice.

    And for the record, he was working hard behind the scenes of the recount. It was stolen.

    Even the improbable Hackett race ended suspiciously. At 21+% turnout not supposed to win, but how can surprise, unexpected wins happen when we aren’t confident in the results.

    I ask all of you who care, work hard, don’t whine, don’t be purist, and let’s take back seats in ’06. All the while at election reform or we have nothing.

    Sorry for the rant, but there is so much counter productive energy out there. The press is doing ’08 entertainment polls. Stay focused.

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